dead playmates
WegnerWils
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cugina
da...@neosoft.com wrote on 7/1/02 9:28 PM:
> On 02 Jul 2002 00:32:16 GMT, wegne...@aol.com (WegnerWils) wrote:
>
>> is there a list anywhere of dead playboy playmates?
>
> It just so happens that I built a list last week and posted it on the web.
> Go to http://www.wa-wd.com, hit "Odds and Ends" on the left hand column,
> then choose the dead Playmates list.
>
> The list is complete as far as I know of. I am missing some dates and
> causes of death, so if anyone has any help, that would be fine.
>
> David Carson
Very impressive list, David. How about Ara Parseghian? A/D ?
Brad Ferguson
<da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> On 02 Jul 2002 00:32:16 GMT, wegne...@aol.com (WegnerWils) wrote:
>
> >is there a list anywhere of dead playboy playmates?
>
> It just so happens that I built a list last week and posted it on the web.
> Go to http://www.wa-wd.com, hit "Odds and Ends" on the left hand column,
> then choose the dead Playmates list.
>
> The list is complete as far as I know of. I am missing some dates and
> causes of death, so if anyone has any help, that would be fine.
>
> David Carson
Thanks, David. There were some surprises on that list for me. I
didn't know Connie Kreski and Willy Rey were dead. (IIRC, Willy is
the one they put on the stock certificate on Playboy's first stock
issue back around 1972. Centerfolds 'R Us.)
BTW, the frame came through as HTML code on my Mac with IE. I had to
paste everything into a translator.
Moscowman3
indiana
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Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote
>
> Thanks, David. There were some surprises on that list for me. I
> didn't know Connie Kreski and Willy Rey were dead.
Also missed...and miss...Connie Kreski, what a beauty, plus gravity defying
breasts.
Wasn't she also married to, and beat up by, James Caan?
Ray Arthur
Mike Klauss
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> hey carson you are such a loser ara parsigian was a basketball coach for
> indiana
Or a football coach at Notre Dame.
To answer the original question, as far as I know, Parseghian is still
alive.
MK
Tinman7828
>hey carson you are such a loser ara parsigian was a basketball coach for
>indiana
>
It looks like VICKILJAS has come back under another guise.
Tinman7828
>It just so happens that I built a list last week and posted it on the web.
>Go to http://www.wa-wd.com, hit "Odds and Ends" on the left hand column,
>then choose the dead Playmates list.
>
>The list is complete as far as I know of. I am missing some dates and
>causes of death, so if anyone has any help, that would be fine.
>
>David Carson
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>Who's Alive and Who's Dead
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>
>
>
>
Their deaths do not seem to follow the normal statistics for women. No heart
disease/heart attack and only 2 out of 17 from cancer. Car wrecks, murder, and
ODs lead the way. Also, I thought Carol Wayne was a Playmate?
MadCow57
And football coach at Northwestern University - there at the same time as me,
Richard Gephardt, Richard Benjamin, Paula Prentiss (née Ragusa), and Penny
Fuller.
(OK, that was name-dropping, but I never knew any of those people personally,
though I used to see Richard Benjamin around campus - he was the skinny guy
with the silly grin, green zits, and a wobbly head that always seemed too big
for his body. Rich G. was more or less ubiquitous, running for sophomore class
president or something. Changed his nickname to Dick when he went into
Democrat politics.)
Corby Gilmore
> hey carson you are such a loser ara parsigian was a basketball coach for
> indiana
Try "football coach for Notre Dame", putz.
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Brad Ferguson
<da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> >BTW, the frame came through as HTML code on my Mac with IE. I had to
> >paste everything into a translator.
>
> Interesting. I haven't substantially changed the HTML on that site in four
> years, and this is the first time anyone has mentioned that. You could
> try the direct (framless) URL to that page:
> http://www.wa-wd.com/oepmom.htm
>
> If you see it via the direct URL but not by navigating from the home page,
> then it has to be a function of the frames. Not that I doubt you, but I
> had assumed that any and all HTML problems with the site had been wiped
> out years ago.
The direct route also yielded raw HTML code. Since you've had no other
reports, I assume there's something wrong on my end. Thanks for the
help.
Brad Ferguson
<da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 21:46:10 -0500, cugina <lamogl...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Very impressive list, David. How about Ara Parseghian? A/D ?
>
> Never heard of her. I'm only keeping data on the Playmates of the Month.
>
> David Carson
Ara Parseghian was the football coach at Notre Dame while I was in high
school, and A Great Catholic -- as long as he kept winning. However,
it's also a great name for a Playmate. (I'd love to see the fact
sheet.)
One of the few things I enjoy about football every year is watching
Notre Dame alumni eat the football coach raw if he dares to fall below
.750.
Brad Ferguson
<tr...@krajfm.com> wrote:
According to IMDb, Caan was never married to Kreski, but he did live at
the Playboy Mansion "briefly" during the 1970s. He was married for a
year (1976-77) to a woman named Sheila Ryan, who was not a Playmate.
I can't find anything that says Kreski was ever married to anybody.
DESSCRIBE1
>disease/heart attack and only 2 out of 17 from cancer. Car wrecks, murder,
>and
>ODs lead the way. Also, I thought Carol Wayne was a Playmate?
>
>
Carol Wayne posed for Playboy, but it was one of their celebrity pictorials,
rather than as a "Playmate of the Month" centerfold.
Here are a couple more to add to the list:
Missy Cleveland (Miss April 1979) died on August 14, 2001, though I don't know
the cause of death.
And, although I don't remember the details, I remember that Playboy ran an
obituary for Betty Blue (Miss November 1956) some time ago...sorry I can't
remember more, but this really only stuck in my mind because of that name.
Erich
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: Very impressive list, David. How about Ara Parseghian? A/D ?
You're bad, very bad....
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: On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 22:46:46 -0400, Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net>
: wrote:
:>In article <ui24219...@corp.supernews.com>, David Carson
:><da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
:>
:>> On 02 Jul 2002 00:32:16 GMT, wegne...@aol.com (WegnerWils) wrote:
:>>
:>> >is there a list anywhere of dead playboy playmates?
:>>
:>> It just so happens that I built a list last week and posted it on the web.
:>> Go to http://www.wa-wd.com, hit "Odds and Ends" on the left hand column,
:>> then choose the dead Playmates list.
:>>
:>> The list is complete as far as I know of. I am missing some dates and
:>> causes of death, so if anyone has any help, that would be fine.
:>>
:>> David Carson
:>
:>
:>Thanks, David. There were some surprises on that list for me. I
:>didn't know Connie Kreski and Willy Rey were dead. (IIRC, Willy is
:>the one they put on the stock certificate on Playboy's first stock
:>issue back around 1972. Centerfolds 'R Us.)
: Willy Rey OD'd within months of her shoot. Her parents insisted that she
: was a clean girl with no drug problems, and whatever she OD'd on had to
: have been a prescription that she accidentally took too much of. Parents
: are so sweet about things like that.
:>BTW, the frame came through as HTML code on my Mac with IE. I had to
:>paste everything into a translator.
: Interesting. I haven't substantially changed the HTML on that site in four
: years, and this is the first time anyone has mentioned that. You could
: try the direct (framless) URL to that page:
: http://www.wa-wd.com/oepmom.htm
: If you see it via the direct URL but not by navigating from the home page,
: then it has to be a function of the frames. Not that I doubt you, but I
: had assumed that any and all HTML problems with the site had been wiped
: out years ago.
: David Carson
That page comes up fine with Lynx.
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Brad Ferguson
<da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 06:38:34 -0400, Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The direct route also yielded raw HTML code. Since you've had no other
> >reports, I assume there's something wrong on my end. Thanks for the
> >help.
>
> Thanks to a tip someone gave me via e-mail, I'm pretty sure it's fixed
> now. I just chose the wrong file format when I saved the HTML file.
>
> David Carson
It's fine now. Thanks.
1way
news:ui24219...@corp.supernews.com:
> On 02 Jul 2002 00:32:16 GMT, wegne...@aol.com
> (WegnerWils) wrote:
>
>>is there a list anywhere of dead playboy playmates?
>
> It just so happens that I built a list last week and posted
> it on the web. Go to http://www.wa-wd.com, hit "Odds and
> Ends" on the left hand column, then choose the dead
> Playmates list.
>
> The list is complete as far as I know of. I am missing
> some dates and causes of death, so if anyone has any help,
> that would be fine.
Gail Stanton (June 1978) should be added to the list with a date
of death of November 21, 1996. Caskets On Parade has the cause
as "intestinal blockage & kidney failure" but I seem to recall
that she had terminal cancer.
Brad Ferguson
<da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> On 02 Jul 2002 12:44:03 GMT, dessc...@aol.com (DESSCRIBE1) wrote:
>
> >Carol Wayne posed for Playboy, but it was one of their celebrity
> >pictorials,
> >rather than as a "Playmate of the Month" centerfold.
> >
> >Here are a couple more to add to the list:
> >
> >Missy Cleveland (Miss April 1979) died on August 14, 2001, though I don't
> >know
> >the cause of death.
>
> I have confirmed the DOD and that her cause of death was not announced at
> the time. Thanks.
>
> >And, although I don't remember the details, I remember that Playboy ran an
> >obituary for Betty Blue (Miss November 1956) some time ago...sorry I can't
> >remember more, but this really only stuck in my mind because of that name.
>
> I can't find a word about this anywhere. I did find that Playboy
> interviewed her for a 1996 book.
>
> David Carson
I think desscribe's right. Here's why:
IMDb says Betty Blue was born on 14 August 1931.
I googled a 1997 mention of Betty. This is from Luke Ford's "History
of Porn":
> Ted Paramore's first marriage ended quickly in divorce in 1953.
> Then he married the love of his life - Playboy Playmate Betty Blue
> in 1957. It lasted until 1963 when they divorced. But Ted and Betty
> remained more than friends, living much of the past 30 years
> together. In 1991, they married again - for love and convenience.
> Betty never showed her nipples in any of her '50s photos because
> she didn't want to embarrass her son but in a Playboy coffee table
> book due out at the end of 1996, updating the early Playmates, she
> lets her big breasts swing free in a picture taken in 1995. Now
> estranged from her son, Betty lives on a nudist camp three weeks of
> the month, and then returns to Los Angeles to spend a week with Ted
> and Harold - the same man. Ted began using the name Harold Lime in
> 1976 when he produced his first hardcore flick.
Finally, the National Obituary Archive has a listing for a Betty
Paramore who was born on 14 August 1931 and died in Los Angeles, CA on
23 August 2000.
Kentucky Wizard
Notre Dame all thos years?
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> On 2 Jul 2002 22:29:10 -0500, 1way <say@hey> wrote:
>
> >David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote in
> >news:ui24219...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> >of death of November 21, 1996. Caskets On Parade has the cause
> >as "intestinal blockage & kidney failure" but I seem to recall
> >that she had terminal cancer.
>
> mentioned kidney failure.
>
> Another possible one I just found on Google was Rebecca Armstrong (Sept.
> 1986). Her name keeps coming up in the "dead playmates" threads, but
> everybody seems to be just guessing in her case, based on the fact that
> she was diagnosed with AIDS in 1993.
>
> David Carson
Rebekka Armstrong is alive and an AIDS activist. At last report, a few
weeks ago, she was experiencing some discomfort after a sustained period of
reasonably good & pain free health. She's from the city in which I live, so
there are regular updates on her health & activities in the local press.
Ray Arthur
Joe Gillis
>> Also missed...and miss...Connie Kreski, what a beauty, plus gravity
>defying
>> breasts.
>>
>> Wasn't she also married to, and beat up by, James Caan?
>>
>> Ray Arthur
>
>
>According to IMDb, Caan was never married to Kreski, but he did live at
>the Playboy Mansion "briefly" during the 1970s.
He was involved with Kreski in the early 70s -- & he spent practically the
whole decade at the PB mansion.
He was married for a
>year (1976-77) to a woman named Sheila Ryan, who was not a Playmate.
But IIRC Ryan did appear on the cover of PB in the mid 70s.
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David Carson
<bigsca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Yes, there's one at https://www.doadb.com/playmates.htm which is still being maintained as of 2023. The one at http://www.wa-wd.com hasn't been maintained since 2020.
The interface at DOADB is new and updated, but both sites draw from the
same data base, so they have the same information. The most recent update
on both of them is the death of Teri Hope, Miss September 1958, on 26
September 2023.
David Carson
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But I discern some surprising bias here. Sure, the impact on American culture of the late Hefner was many magnitudes greater than that of the late Bob Guccione. So there (au?)naturally is vastly more interest in onetime Playboy Playmates than there is in former Penthouse Pets. And while Playmate obits of course show up in alt-obits from time to time, I can't recall ever seeing a Pet obit here.
(Now, the occasional pet obit for sure, but that's a horse of a different color.)
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
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He expired Wednesday, October 20, 2010 (the day after Tom Bosley died), after an especially nasty bout with cancer, and here are two things that surprised me about the publishing mogol:
(1) His full name was Robert Charles Joseph Edward Sabatini Guccione (Not sure whether survivor son Bob Guccione Jr. is fully so named);
and
(2) According to some magazine piece a decade or so ago, the Titans of ***s Hugh Hefner and Bob Guccione met only once. No idea where, much less which date, that this Summit of Sexuality happened. But it was at some party, and as the reporter described it, they chatted only briefly. (Can anyone here detail that extraordinary encounter?)
STYBLE/Florida