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Louis Epstein
Apr 3, 2023, 6:15:51 PM4/3/23
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Something seems to have made old messages & threads
inaccessible at Panix?
In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
inaccessible at Panix?
In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
Apr 12, 2023, 2:18:56 AM4/12/23
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Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
> inaccessible at Panix?
(Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
> inaccessible at Panix?
news server's scroll)
> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>
> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
on day 413:
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
officers was reached on March 28th.
But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
Louis Epstein
Apr 21, 2023, 12:23:12 PM4/21/23
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Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>> inaccessible at Panix?
>
> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
> news server's scroll)
>
>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>
>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>
> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
> on day 413:
> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>> inaccessible at Panix?
>
> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
> news server's scroll)
>
>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>
>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>
> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
> on day 413:
> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
> officers was reached on March 28th.
> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
Louis Epstein
Apr 29, 2023, 3:15:15 AM4/29/23
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Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>
>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>> news server's scroll)
>>
>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>
>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>
>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>> on day 413:
>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>
> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>
>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>> news server's scroll)
>>
>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>
>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>
>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>> on day 413:
>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>
> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>
> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
captains.
Louis Epstein
May 9, 2023, 3:05:43 AM5/9/23
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Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>
>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>> news server's scroll)
>>>
>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>
>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>> on day 413:
>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>
>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>
> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>
>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>> news server's scroll)
>>>
>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>
>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>> on day 413:
>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>
>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>
> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>
>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>
> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
> captains.
Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
Louis Epstein
May 17, 2023, 4:54:24 AM5/17/23
to
Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>
>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>
>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>
>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>> on day 413:
>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>
>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>
>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>
> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>
>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>
>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>
>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>> on day 413:
>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>
>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>
>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>
> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7402549/
>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>
>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>
>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>> captains.
>
> Graphic not updated.
> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
279 Majors,407 captains.
Louis Epstein
May 25, 2023, 2:02:56 AM5/25/23
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[URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>
>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>
>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>> captains.
>>
>> Graphic not updated.
>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>
> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
> 279 Majors,407 captains.
Felix Badde
May 25, 2023, 12:47:31 PM5/25/23
to
Louis Epstein
May 26, 2023, 4:42:20 PM5/26/23
to
Felix Badde <jr.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is it really you?? MR EPSTEIN???
Do I know you from anywhere else?
Louis Epstein
Jun 5, 2023, 2:24:43 AM6/5/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>
>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>> captains.
>>>
>>> Graphic not updated.
>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>
>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>
> Not updated.
>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>
> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
Louis Epstein
Jun 11, 2023, 3:24:41 AM6/11/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>> captains.
>>>>
>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>
>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>
>> Not updated.
>
> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>
>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>
> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
Louis Epstein
Jun 14, 2023, 4:24:20 AM6/14/23
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>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>>
>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>
>>> Not updated.
>>
>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>
> Not updated since.
(with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
latter could get updated at any time)
have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>
>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>
>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>
> 2253 with 58 colonels,153LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
like the others serving as a one-star.
Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
apparently the missile that took out Major-General (Russian 1-star,
they have no "brigadier" rank and we have no "colonel general")
Goryachev took out some other brass as well.
Louis Epstein
Jun 19, 2023, 3:20:00 AM6/19/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>
>>>> Not updated.
>>>
>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>
>> Not updated since.
>
> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
> latter could get updated at any time)
> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>
>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>
>
> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
> like the others serving as a one-star.
> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
> like the others serving as a one-star.
> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
Louis Epstein
Jun 26, 2023, 4:58:07 AM6/26/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>
>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>
>>> Not updated since.
>>
>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>> latter could get updated at any time)
>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>
> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>
>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>
>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>
>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>
> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
Louis Epstein
Jul 3, 2023, 2:37:14 AM7/3/23
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Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <l...@lekno.ws> wrote:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
and am no longer able to read it off Twitter unless logged in,
and have been locked out of being able to log in since October 2018.
Last I saw the numbers were up on those I last quoted.(2396 or so
total,163 LtCols...)
Raul TW
Jul 3, 2023, 4:20:35 PM7/3/23
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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:37:14 PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
Nearly a quarter million Russian soldiers reportedly killed. That is a huge number. The source is a Ukrainian newspaper.
> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
Russia has not released an official number since September 2022.
At that time, the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that 5,937 Russian soldiers had been killed in combat.
IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in power with that high of a death toll.
Gathering data from various news sources, the Russian death toll is likely to be in the range of 20,000 to 50,000
Google Bard:
The United States government estimates that as of May 1, 2023, more than 20,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine. This estimate is based on intelligence gathered from a variety of sources, including open-source information, satellite imagery, and human intelligence.
It is important to note that these estimates are just that - estimates. The true number of Russian military losses in Ukraine is likely higher than any of these figures, as it is difficult to obtain accurate information from a conflict zone. However, even the lower estimates of Russian losses are significant and suggest that the war in Ukraine is taking a heavy toll on the Russian military.
Here are some sources for the more recent estimates of Russian military losses in Ukraine:
BBC News: Ukraine war: More than 20,000 Russian troops killed since December, US says: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65451487
Al Jazeera: US believes 20,000 Russians killed in Ukraine war since December: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/1/us-believes-20000-russians-killed-in-ukraine-war-since-december
The Moscow Times: Verified Russian Military Deaths in Ukraine Now Exceed 20,000: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/14/verified-russian-military-deaths-in-ukraine-now-exceed-20000-a80839
The Guardian: More than 20,000 Russian soldiers killed in five months in Ukraine, US says: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/01/more-than-20000-russian-soldiers-killed-in-five-months-in-ukraine-us-says
NBC News: Scale of Russian deaths in Ukraine signals trouble for Putin: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-casualties-soldiers-killed-ukraine-counteroffensive-putin-war-rcna82380
Louis Epstein
Jul 4, 2023, 12:55:16 AM7/4/23
to
Raul TW <raultenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
and typically says the report "is being confirmed".
The estimates are presumably generous,while the @KilledinUkraine
site (DOES ANYONE HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC?) uses only
Russian reports and only covers officers,with numbers that are
presumably conservative.
The Oryx site similarly has much lower,but generally meticulously
verified,numbers for losses in materiel.
> Russia has not released an official number since September 2022.
> At that time, the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that 5,937 Russian soldiers had been killed in combat.
>
> IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in
> power with that high of a death toll.
Over four Vietnam Wars' worth for the USA in less than a year and a half.
> Gathering data from various news sources, the Russian death toll is likely
> to be in the range of 20,000 to 50,000
>
> Google Bard:
>
> The United States government estimates that as of May 1, 2023, more than
> 20,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine. This estimate is based
> on intelligence gathered from a variety of sources, including open-source
> information, satellite imagery, and human intelligence.
>
> It is important to note that these estimates are just that - estimates. The true number of Russian military losses in Ukraine is likely higher than any of these figures, as it is difficult to obtain accurate information from a conflict zone. However, even the lower estimates of Russian losses are significant and suggest that the war in Ukraine is taking a heavy toll on the Russian military.
>
> Here are some sources for the more recent estimates of Russian military
> losses in Ukraine:
>
> BBC News: Ukraine war: More than 20,000 Russian troops killed since
> December, US says: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65451487
>
> Al Jazeera: US believes 20,000 Russians killed in Ukraine war since
> December:
> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/1/us-believes-20000-russians-killed-in-ukraine-war-since-december
So that's the stretch Dec 2022 to end April 2023?
> The Moscow Times: Verified Russian Military Deaths in Ukraine Now Exceed
> 20,000:
> https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/14/verified-russian-military-deaths-in-ukraine-now-exceed-20000-a80839
Feb 2022 to early April 2023?
> The Guardian: More than 20,000 Russian soldiers killed in five months in
> Ukraine, US says: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/01/more-than-20000-russian-soldiers-killed-in-five-months-in-ukraine-us-says
>
> NBC News: Scale of Russian deaths in Ukraine signals trouble for Putin:
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-casualties-soldiers-killed-ukraine-counteroffensive-putin-war-rcna82380
>
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:37:14?PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>
> Nearly a quarter million Russian soldiers reportedly killed. That is a huge
> number. The source is a Ukrainian newspaper.
The Ukrainian newspaper always quotes Ukrainian government sources
>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>
> Nearly a quarter million Russian soldiers reportedly killed. That is a huge
> number. The source is a Ukrainian newspaper.
and typically says the report "is being confirmed".
The estimates are presumably generous,while the @KilledinUkraine
site (DOES ANYONE HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC?) uses only
Russian reports and only covers officers,with numbers that are
presumably conservative.
The Oryx site similarly has much lower,but generally meticulously
verified,numbers for losses in materiel.
> Russia has not released an official number since September 2022.
> At that time, the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that 5,937 Russian soldiers had been killed in combat.
>
> IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in
> power with that high of a death toll.
> Gathering data from various news sources, the Russian death toll is likely
> to be in the range of 20,000 to 50,000
>
> Google Bard:
>
> The United States government estimates that as of May 1, 2023, more than
> 20,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine. This estimate is based
> on intelligence gathered from a variety of sources, including open-source
> information, satellite imagery, and human intelligence.
>
> It is important to note that these estimates are just that - estimates. The true number of Russian military losses in Ukraine is likely higher than any of these figures, as it is difficult to obtain accurate information from a conflict zone. However, even the lower estimates of Russian losses are significant and suggest that the war in Ukraine is taking a heavy toll on the Russian military.
>
> Here are some sources for the more recent estimates of Russian military
> losses in Ukraine:
>
> BBC News: Ukraine war: More than 20,000 Russian troops killed since
> December, US says: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65451487
>
> Al Jazeera: US believes 20,000 Russians killed in Ukraine war since
> December:
> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/1/us-believes-20000-russians-killed-in-ukraine-war-since-december
> The Moscow Times: Verified Russian Military Deaths in Ukraine Now Exceed
> 20,000:
> https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/14/verified-russian-military-deaths-in-ukraine-now-exceed-20000-a80839
> The Guardian: More than 20,000 Russian soldiers killed in five months in
> Ukraine, US says: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/01/more-than-20000-russian-soldiers-killed-in-five-months-in-ukraine-us-says
>
> NBC News: Scale of Russian deaths in Ukraine signals trouble for Putin:
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-casualties-soldiers-killed-ukraine-counteroffensive-putin-war-rcna82380
>
Raul TW
Jul 4, 2023, 6:25:19 AM7/4/23
to
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 9:55:16 PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in
>>power with that high of a death toll.
> Over four Vietnam Wars' worth for the USA in less than a year and a half.
Various sources say the initial estimate of the number of Russian troops deployed
>> IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in
>>power with that high of a death toll.
> Over four Vietnam Wars' worth for the USA in less than a year and a half.
to Ukraine has been `~200,000 troops at the start of the war and that number has held steady for the last year. It is not credible that 230,000 Russian troops have been killed.
If the death toll was that staggeringly high, Putin likely would have been toppled. Russia has a population of only 150 million!!
Putin simply cannot withstand that many body bags coming home.
I do not doubt that the death toll is very high. But that number appears to be vastly inflated.
Will update later on the numbers reported by various sources.
But AFAIK, the U.S. intelligence sources have not placed the Russian death toll number nearly that thigh.
Louis Epstein
Jul 5, 2023, 8:03:33 PM7/5/23
to
Raul TW <raultenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/5/7165097/
(also says total for BOTH sides is 354,000 according to the USA).
> If the death toll was that staggeringly high, Putin likely would have been toppled. Russia has a population of only 150 million!!
> Putin simply cannot withstand that many body bags coming home.
>
> I do not doubt that the death toll is very high. But that number appears to be vastly inflated.
>
> Will update later on the numbers reported by various sources.
>
> But AFAIK, the U.S. intelligence sources have not placed the Russian death
> toll number nearly that thigh.
> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 9:55:16?PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>>> IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in
>>>power with that high of a death toll.
>
>> Over four Vietnam Wars' worth for the USA in less than a year and a half.
>
> Various sources say the initial estimate of the number of Russian troops deployed
> to Ukraine has been `~200,000 troops at the start of the war and that number has held steady for the last year. It is not credible that 230,000 Russian troops have been killed.
The UK now says that Russia has lost 220,000 TOTAL killed AND wounded:
>>> IMO, the 230,000 number is too high. Hard to believe Putin could remain in
>>>power with that high of a death toll.
>
>> Over four Vietnam Wars' worth for the USA in less than a year and a half.
>
> Various sources say the initial estimate of the number of Russian troops deployed
> to Ukraine has been `~200,000 troops at the start of the war and that number has held steady for the last year. It is not credible that 230,000 Russian troops have been killed.
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/5/7165097/
(also says total for BOTH sides is 354,000 according to the USA).
> If the death toll was that staggeringly high, Putin likely would have been toppled. Russia has a population of only 150 million!!
> Putin simply cannot withstand that many body bags coming home.
>
> I do not doubt that the death toll is very high. But that number appears to be vastly inflated.
>
> Will update later on the numbers reported by various sources.
>
> But AFAIK, the U.S. intelligence sources have not placed the Russian death
> toll number nearly that thigh.
Raul TW
Jul 6, 2023, 4:36:21 PM7/6/23
to
On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 5:03:33 PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
> The UK now says that Russia has lost 220,000 TOTAL killed AND wounded:
> https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/5/7165097/
That article headline states, "UK Assessed Russia's Losses at 220,000 Military Personnel". It is rather unusual to count the wounded as "losses of personnel". "Losses of personnel" typically refer to soldiers killed in action, e.g. , "America lost 60,000 soldiers in Vietnam".
> The UK now says that Russia has lost 220,000 TOTAL killed AND wounded:
> https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/5/7165097/
I am researching the various estimates of the number of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine.
The BBC and Mediazona project, which tracks open-source data, estimates that 25,528 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine as of July 6, 2023. This is the most comprehensive and up-to-date estimate of Russian casualties available.
The US government has not released an updated estimate since February 2023. The US government estimated that between 15,000 and 20,000 Russian soldiers had been killed in Ukraine as of February 2023.
The 220,000 number of total casualties quoted in the article appears to be a bit high, as that implies 44,000 Russians killed (assuming a 4 to 1 ratio of Russian soldiers wounded to killed). This means that out of the total of 220,000 wounded and killed Russian soldiers, 44,000 were killed in action and 176,000 were wounded in action.
The typical ratio of Russian soldiers wounded to killed in Ukraine is estimated to be between 3 to 1 and 4 to 1. This means that for every Russian soldier who is killed in action, there are between 3 and 4 Russian soldiers who are wounded.
This ratio is higher than the typical ratio of wounded to killed in other wars. For example, the ratio of wounded to killed in the Iraq War was 2 to 1. This suggests that the Russian military is not as well-equipped to deal with casualties as other militaries.
There are a number of reasons why the ratio of wounded to killed in Ukraine is so high. First, the fighting in Ukraine has been very intense. Both sides have used heavy artillery and air strikes, which have caused a lot of casualties. Second, the Ukrainian military has been using effective tactics to target Russian troops, such as ambushes and artillery strikes. Third, the Russian military has been using poorly trained and equipped troops, which have been more likely to be killed or wounded.
The high number of Russian casualties in Ukraine is a major setback for the Russian military. It has led to a decline in morale and a loss of confidence in the leadership. It has also made it more difficult for Russia to achieve its military objectives in Ukraine.
Louis Epstein
Jul 8, 2023, 10:10:34 PM7/8/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
(actually was in a browser memory here too).
2479 total
64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
> and am no longer able to read it off Twitter unless logged in,
Raul TW
Jul 8, 2023, 11:19:11 PM7/8/23
to
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:10:34 PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>Ukrainian Defence Forces have killed 630 Russian troops and destroyed 4 tanks and 16 artillery systems over the past 24 hours.
>Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
> Details: The total combat losses of the Russian forces from 24 February 2022 to 8 July 2023 are estimated to be as follows [figures in > > parentheses represent the latest losses – ed.]:
>Approximately 233,440 (+630) military personnel;
Ukraine is claiming 233,440. It is not clear from that article whether that 233K number includes the wounded.
The U.S. and U.K. have not confirmed anything close to that number. That 233,440 killed number from Ukraine is simply not credible.
In July 2023, the US updated its estimate to 20,000 to 40,000 Russian soldiers killed.
The British government has estimated that 20,000 to 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
>Ukrainian Defence Forces have killed 630 Russian troops and destroyed 4 tanks and 16 artillery systems over the past 24 hours.
>Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
> Details: The total combat losses of the Russian forces from 24 February 2022 to 8 July 2023 are estimated to be as follows [figures in > > parentheses represent the latest losses – ed.]:
>Approximately 233,440 (+630) military personnel;
Ukraine is claiming 233,440. It is not clear from that article whether that 233K number includes the wounded.
The U.S. and U.K. have not confirmed anything close to that number. That 233,440 killed number from Ukraine is simply not credible.
In July 2023, the US updated its estimate to 20,000 to 40,000 Russian soldiers killed.
The British government has estimated that 20,000 to 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
Bob Martin
Jul 9, 2023, 2:38:33 AM7/9/23
to
On 9 Jul 2023 at 03:19:09, Raul TW <raultenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:10:34=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>
>>** >Ukrainian Defence Forces have killed 630 Russian troops and destroyed 4 tanks and 16 artillery systems
>>** over the past 24 hours.
>>** to be as follows [figures in > > parentheses represent the latest losses - ed.]:
> *** Ukraine is simply not credible.
If you lose an arm or a leg you are not going to be fighting any more.
The same as being dead as far as the army is concerned.
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:10:34=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>
>>** >Ukrainian Defence Forces have killed 630 Russian troops and destroyed 4 tanks and 16 artillery systems
>>** over the past 24 hours.
>>Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
>
>>** > Details: The total combat losses of the Russian forces from 24 February 2022 to 8 July 2023 are estimated
>
>>** to be as follows [figures in > > parentheses represent the latest losses - ed.]:
>
>>Approximately 233,440 (+630) military personnel;
>
>
> Ukraine is claiming 233,440. It is not clear from that article whether that 233K number includes the wounded.
>
> *** The U.S. and U.K. have not confirmed anything close to that number. That 233,440 killed number from
>>Approximately 233,440 (+630) military personnel;
>
>
> Ukraine is claiming 233,440. It is not clear from that article whether that 233K number includes the wounded.
>
> *** Ukraine is simply not credible.
>
> In July 2023, the US updated its estimate to 20,000 to 40,000 Russian soldiers killed.
> The British government has estimated that 20,000 to 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
>
"Combat losses" is people who are out of the fight.
> In July 2023, the US updated its estimate to 20,000 to 40,000 Russian soldiers killed.
> The British government has estimated that 20,000 to 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
>
If you lose an arm or a leg you are not going to be fighting any more.
The same as being dead as far as the army is concerned.
Raul TW
Jul 9, 2023, 3:05:09 AM7/9/23
to
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 11:38:33 PM UTC-7, Bob Martin wrote:
> >
> > Ukraine is claiming 233,440. It is not clear from that article whether that 233K number includes the wounded.
> >
> > *** The U.S. and U.K. have not confirmed anything close to that number. That 233,440 killed number from
> > *** Ukraine is simply not credible.
> >
> > In July 2023, the US updated its estimate to 20,000 to 40,000 Russian soldiers killed.
> > The British government has estimated that 20,000 to 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
> >
> "Combat losses" is people who are out of the fight.
> If you lose an arm or a leg you are not going to be fighting any more.
> The same as being dead as far as the army is concerned.
I would tend to agree that the ~230,000 number refers to the **TOTAL** number of wounded and killed.
> >
> > Ukraine is claiming 233,440. It is not clear from that article whether that 233K number includes the wounded.
> >
> > *** The U.S. and U.K. have not confirmed anything close to that number. That 233,440 killed number from
> > *** Ukraine is simply not credible.
> >
> > In July 2023, the US updated its estimate to 20,000 to 40,000 Russian soldiers killed.
> > The British government has estimated that 20,000 to 50,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine.
> >
> "Combat losses" is people who are out of the fight.
> If you lose an arm or a leg you are not going to be fighting any more.
> The same as being dead as far as the army is concerned.
Which would equate to about 40,000 KILLED and that death number would be in line with the estimates from the British and the U.S.
But the poster is claiming that ~ 230,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in the last year.
Louis Epstein
Jul 11, 2023, 3:20:42 AM7/11/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
be taken for overestimates of one so desires,but I will continue
to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>
>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>
>>> 2363 as of June 21...
checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>>>>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>
>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>
>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>
>> I DO NOT HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>
> I found it through a third-party site...
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>
> 2479 total
> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
442 captains and no higher new deaths.
Raul TW
Jul 11, 2023, 3:25:36 AM7/11/23
to
On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 12:05:09 AM UTC-7, Raul TW wrote:
>
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-military-deaths-facd75c2311ed7be660342698cf6a409
Published July 9, 2023
BRUSSELS (AP) — Nearly 50,000 Russian men have died in the war in Ukraine, according to the first independent statistical analysis of Russia’s war dead.
Two independent Russian media outlets, Mediazona and Meduza, working with a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University, used Russian government data to shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets — the true human cost of its invasion of Ukraine.
To do so, they relied on a statistical concept popularized during the COVID-19 pandemic called excess mortality. Drawing on inheritance records and official mortality data, they estimated how many more men under age 50 died between February 2022 and May 2023 than normal.
Neither Moscow nor Kyiv gives timely data on military losses, and each is at pains to amplify the other side’s casualties. Russia has publicly acknowledged the deaths of just over 6,000 soldiers. Reports about military losses have been repressed in Russian media, activists and independent journalists say. Documenting the dead has become an act of defiance; those who do so face harassment and potential criminal charges.
Despite such challenges, Mediazona and the BBC’s Russian Service, working with a network of volunteers, have used social media postings and photographs of cemeteries across Russia to build a database of confirmed war deaths. As of July 7, they had identified 27,423 dead Russian soldiers.
“These are only soldiers who we know by name, and their deaths in each case are verified by multiple sources,” said Dmitry Treshchanin, an editor at Mediazona who helped oversee the investigation. “The estimate we did with Meduza allows us to see the ‘hidden’ deaths, deaths the Russian government is so obsessively and unsuccessfully trying to hide.”
To come up with a more comprehensive tally, journalists from Mediazona and Meduza obtained records of inheritance cases filed with the Russian authorities. Their data from the National Probate Registry contained information about more than 11 million people who died between 2014 and May 2023.
According to their analysis, 25,000 more inheritance cases were opened in 2022 for males aged 15 to 49 than expected. By May 27, 2023, the number of excess cases had shot up to 47,000.
That surge is roughly in line with a May assessment by the White House that more than 20,000 Russians had been killed in Ukraine since December, though lower than U.S. and U.K. intelligence assessments of overall Russian deaths.
In February, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said approximately 40,000 to 60,000 Russians had likely been killed in the war. A leaked assessment from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency put the number of Russians killed in action in the first year of the war at 35,000 to 43,000.
“Their figures might be accurate, or they might not be,” Treshchanin, the Mediazona editor, said in an email. “Even if they have sources in the Russian Ministry of Defense, its own data could be incomplete. It’s extremely difficult to pull together all of the casualties from the army, Rosgvardia, Akhmat battalion, various private military companies, of which Wagner is the largest, but not the only one. Casualties among inmates, first recruited by Wagner and now by the MoD, are also a very hazy subject, with a lot of potential for manipulation. Statistics could actually give better results.”
Many Russian fatalities - as well as amputations - could have been prevented with better front-line first aid, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said in an intelligence assessment published Monday. Russia has suffered an average of around 400 casualties a day for 17 months, creating a “crisis” in combat medical care that is likely undermining medical services for civilians in border regions near Ukraine, the ministry said.
Independently, Dmitry Kobak, a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University who has published work on excess COVID-19 deaths in Russia, obtained mortality data broken down by age and sex for 2022 from Rosstat, Russia’s official statistics agency.
He found that 24,000 more men under age 50 died in 2022 than expected, a figure that aligns with the analysis of inheritance data.
Asked by the Associated Press on Monday about the Meduza and Mediazona study, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said during a conference call with reporters he wasn’t aware of it as the Kremlin had “stopped monitoring” Meduza. Peskov also refused to comment on the number of deaths mentioned in the study, saying only that “the Defense Ministry gives the numbers, and they’re the only ones who have that prerogative.”
Meduza is an independent Russian media outlet that has been operating in exile for eight years, with headquarters in Riga, Latvia. In April 2021, Russian authorities designated Meduza a “foreign agent,” making it harder to generate advertising income, and in January 2023, the Kremlin banned Meduza as an illegal “undesirable organization.”
Moscow has also labeled independent outlet Mediazona as a “foreign agent” and blocked its website after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
>
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-military-deaths-facd75c2311ed7be660342698cf6a409
Published July 9, 2023
BRUSSELS (AP) — Nearly 50,000 Russian men have died in the war in Ukraine, according to the first independent statistical analysis of Russia’s war dead.
Two independent Russian media outlets, Mediazona and Meduza, working with a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University, used Russian government data to shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets — the true human cost of its invasion of Ukraine.
To do so, they relied on a statistical concept popularized during the COVID-19 pandemic called excess mortality. Drawing on inheritance records and official mortality data, they estimated how many more men under age 50 died between February 2022 and May 2023 than normal.
Neither Moscow nor Kyiv gives timely data on military losses, and each is at pains to amplify the other side’s casualties. Russia has publicly acknowledged the deaths of just over 6,000 soldiers. Reports about military losses have been repressed in Russian media, activists and independent journalists say. Documenting the dead has become an act of defiance; those who do so face harassment and potential criminal charges.
Despite such challenges, Mediazona and the BBC’s Russian Service, working with a network of volunteers, have used social media postings and photographs of cemeteries across Russia to build a database of confirmed war deaths. As of July 7, they had identified 27,423 dead Russian soldiers.
“These are only soldiers who we know by name, and their deaths in each case are verified by multiple sources,” said Dmitry Treshchanin, an editor at Mediazona who helped oversee the investigation. “The estimate we did with Meduza allows us to see the ‘hidden’ deaths, deaths the Russian government is so obsessively and unsuccessfully trying to hide.”
To come up with a more comprehensive tally, journalists from Mediazona and Meduza obtained records of inheritance cases filed with the Russian authorities. Their data from the National Probate Registry contained information about more than 11 million people who died between 2014 and May 2023.
According to their analysis, 25,000 more inheritance cases were opened in 2022 for males aged 15 to 49 than expected. By May 27, 2023, the number of excess cases had shot up to 47,000.
That surge is roughly in line with a May assessment by the White House that more than 20,000 Russians had been killed in Ukraine since December, though lower than U.S. and U.K. intelligence assessments of overall Russian deaths.
In February, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said approximately 40,000 to 60,000 Russians had likely been killed in the war. A leaked assessment from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency put the number of Russians killed in action in the first year of the war at 35,000 to 43,000.
“Their figures might be accurate, or they might not be,” Treshchanin, the Mediazona editor, said in an email. “Even if they have sources in the Russian Ministry of Defense, its own data could be incomplete. It’s extremely difficult to pull together all of the casualties from the army, Rosgvardia, Akhmat battalion, various private military companies, of which Wagner is the largest, but not the only one. Casualties among inmates, first recruited by Wagner and now by the MoD, are also a very hazy subject, with a lot of potential for manipulation. Statistics could actually give better results.”
Many Russian fatalities - as well as amputations - could have been prevented with better front-line first aid, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said in an intelligence assessment published Monday. Russia has suffered an average of around 400 casualties a day for 17 months, creating a “crisis” in combat medical care that is likely undermining medical services for civilians in border regions near Ukraine, the ministry said.
Independently, Dmitry Kobak, a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University who has published work on excess COVID-19 deaths in Russia, obtained mortality data broken down by age and sex for 2022 from Rosstat, Russia’s official statistics agency.
He found that 24,000 more men under age 50 died in 2022 than expected, a figure that aligns with the analysis of inheritance data.
Asked by the Associated Press on Monday about the Meduza and Mediazona study, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said during a conference call with reporters he wasn’t aware of it as the Kremlin had “stopped monitoring” Meduza. Peskov also refused to comment on the number of deaths mentioned in the study, saying only that “the Defense Ministry gives the numbers, and they’re the only ones who have that prerogative.”
Meduza is an independent Russian media outlet that has been operating in exile for eight years, with headquarters in Riga, Latvia. In April 2021, Russian authorities designated Meduza a “foreign agent,” making it harder to generate advertising income, and in January 2023, the Kremlin banned Meduza as an illegal “undesirable organization.”
Moscow has also labeled independent outlet Mediazona as a “foreign agent” and blocked its website after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Louis Epstein
Jul 20, 2023, 3:31:11 AM7/20/23
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> to post the statistical sequence.
240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together in
>>>>>>>>>> a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>
>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>
>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>
>>> I DO NOT HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>
>> I found it through a third-party site...
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>
>> 2479 total
>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>
> 2482,
> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
67 colonels,
167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
323 majors,
452 captains.
(The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
Russian sources).
>>> and am no longer able to read it off Twitter unless logged in,
>>
>> (persists)
Twitter.
Raul TW
Jul 20, 2023, 4:00:56 AM7/20/23
to
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:31:11 AM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>
>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>> to post the statistical sequence.
> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
Ukraine is claiming that 240,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.
>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>
>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>> to post the statistical sequence.
> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
But everyone should be clear that British and U.S. sources have the Russian death toll at less than 50,000.
And given that there is a long history of countries exaggerating the enemy death numbers to suit their purposes, do not really see the point of posting these inflated Ukranian numbers that are not corroborated by any independent sources.
I see no reason not to trust the U.S. intelligence on the Russian deaths, particularly as the U.S. is financing and very closely monitoring this war.
Google:
As of July 20, 2023, the latest U.S. intelligence estimates of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine are between 35,000 and 43,000. This number is based on a variety of sources, including satellite imagery, intercepted communications, and on-the-ground reporting.
Louis Epstein
Jul 29, 2023, 2:12:33 AM7/29/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
69 colonels,
169 lieutenant-colonels,
328 majors,
457 captains.
>>>> and am no longer able to read it off Twitter unless logged in,
>>>
>>> (persists)
>
> Not even seeing a thumbnail now except as quoted by search engines from
> Twitter.
Louis Epstein
Aug 7, 2023, 4:31:24 AM8/7/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
330 majors the only item updated from above set.
Louis Epstein
Aug 7, 2023, 3:02:25 PM8/7/23
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170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
Louis Epstein
Aug 16, 2023, 2:35:06 AM8/16/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
Louis Epstein
Aug 26, 2023, 4:06:12 AM8/26/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
Louis Epstein
Sep 1, 2023, 9:53:07 PM9/1/23
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I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).
Louis Epstein
Sep 4, 2023, 4:52:24 AM9/4/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
Louis Epstein
Sep 13, 2023, 2:24:35 AM9/13/23
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>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/
73 colonels,177 lt-cols,349 majors,483 captains.
Louis Epstein
Sep 23, 2023, 2:55:57 AM9/23/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
74 colonels,178 lt-cols,353 majors,490 captains.
Adam H. Kerman
Sep 23, 2023, 8:47:27 AM9/23/23
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Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>. . .
What is the real number thought to be, double?
Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?
>>. . .
What is the real number thought to be, double?
Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?
Louis Epstein
Sep 24, 2023, 12:03:11 AM9/24/23
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Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>
>>>. . .
>
>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>
> What is the real number thought to be, double?
I think you mean half?
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>
>>>. . .
>
>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>
> What is the real number thought to be, double?
> Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
> see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?
and the Czech-based @KilledInUkraine group's numbers of identified,
dated deaths of Russian officers.One number is likely high and the
other low compared to reality but I'm preserving the statistical
sequences.
Kenny McCormack
Sep 24, 2023, 6:03:33 AM9/24/23
to
In article <ueocdr$rck$2...@reader2.panix.com>,
real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
wouldn't lie, would they?
--
When polled for who is/was the worst US president, the candidates (i.e. popular responses/suggestions) are usually:
(Andrew) Johnson, Buchanan, or Trump
When polled for who is/was the best US president, the candidates (i.e. popular responses/suggestions) are usually:
FDR, Lincoln, or Trump
Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>
>>>>. . .
>>
>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>
>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>
>I think you mean half?
If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>
>>>>. . .
>>
>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>
>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>
>I think you mean half?
real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
wouldn't lie, would they?
--
When polled for who is/was the worst US president, the candidates (i.e. popular responses/suggestions) are usually:
(Andrew) Johnson, Buchanan, or Trump
When polled for who is/was the best US president, the candidates (i.e. popular responses/suggestions) are usually:
FDR, Lincoln, or Trump
Adam H. Kerman
Sep 24, 2023, 2:50:23 PM9/24/23
to
Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>. . .
>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>What is the real number thought to be, double?
>>I think you mean half?
>If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
>real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
>recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
>might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>wouldn't lie, would they?
I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>. . .
>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>What is the real number thought to be, double?
>>I think you mean half?
>If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
>real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
>recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
>might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>wouldn't lie, would they?
invasion by a foreign army?
Kenny McCormack
Sep 24, 2023, 6:20:29 PM9/24/23
to
In article <ueq0da$1fjjq$2...@dont-email.me>,
perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).
I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
that.
--
"Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS
crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in
TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in
bonuses, and paid no taxes? Yeah, me neither."
Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
...
>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>wouldn't lie, would they?
>
>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>invasion by a foreign army?
I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
>>wouldn't lie, would they?
>
>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>invasion by a foreign army?
perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).
I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
that.
--
"Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS
crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in
TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in
bonuses, and paid no taxes? Yeah, me neither."
Adam H. Kerman
Sep 24, 2023, 6:35:48 PM9/24/23
to
Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>...
>>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>>wouldn't lie, would they?
>>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>>invasion by a foreign army?
>I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
>perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
>reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).
>I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
>that.
You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>...
>>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>>wouldn't lie, would they?
>>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>>invasion by a foreign army?
>I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
>perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
>reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).
>I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
>that.
could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
what I am questioning.
It's a generally held position that defending against an invasion is
expected behavior and that there's nothing controversial about it and
certainly not against international law. It's not just my belief.
Louis Epstein
Sep 24, 2023, 6:48:34 PM9/24/23
to
Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <ueocdr$rck$2...@reader2.panix.com>,
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>. . .
>>>
>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>
>>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>>
>>I think you mean half?
>
> If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
> real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
> recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
> might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
>
> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
> wouldn't lie, would they?
They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
> In article <ueocdr$rck$2...@reader2.panix.com>,
> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>. . .
>>>
>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>
>>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>>
>>I think you mean half?
>
> If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
> real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
> recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
> might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
>
> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
> wouldn't lie, would they?
just as the Russians do.
In any case the officer-deaths numbers are as likely to err on the
low side as the total-deaths numbers are to err on the high.
The Ukrainian total-death numbers are released daily (I only post
when a 5,000 multiple is passed) and are presumably current,the
officer-death numbers gleaned from Russian sources can be months
after the fact.
Kenny McCormack
Sep 24, 2023, 7:39:32 PM9/24/23
to
In article <ueqebu$kav$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
...
Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
...
>> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>> wouldn't lie, would they?
>They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
>just as the Russians do.
Exactly. You understood the gist of my post. Well done.
>> wouldn't lie, would they?
>They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
>just as the Russians do.
Kenny McCormack
Sep 24, 2023, 7:41:36 PM9/24/23
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In article <ueqdk0$1ht4b$1...@dont-email.me>,
state/military apparatus...
But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.
Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!
--
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2023: (Also) The coolest summer of the rest of your life.
>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>what I am questioning.
Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>what I am questioning.
state/military apparatus...
But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.
Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!
--
2023: The hottest summer of your life (so far...)
2023: (Also) The coolest summer of the rest of your life.
Adam H. Kerman
Sep 24, 2023, 8:54:23 PM9/24/23
to
Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>...
>>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>>what I am questioning.
>Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
>state/military apparatus...
>But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.
>Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!
Fair enough
>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>...
>>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>>what I am questioning.
>Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
>state/military apparatus...
>But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.
>Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!
Louis Epstein
Sep 29, 2023, 8:29:51 PM9/29/23
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Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
and officially 234 officers:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/29/7422028/
(The Russian govenrment only admits to something over 6000
but doesn't issue formal reports any more)
The Ukrainians say the number is 277,660:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/29/7421894/
The latest KIU number of Russian officers dead
verified from Russian sources and named is 2,898,
1 2-star general
5 1-star generals
74 colonels
178 lieutenant-colonels
356 majors
497 captains
843 senior lieutenants
515 lieutenants
52 junior lieutenants
144 reserve/retired senior officers
147 reserve/retired junior officers
86 "other rank and unknown rank"
Louis Epstein
Oct 5, 2023, 4:10:45 AM10/5/23
to
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422709/
(a notable slowing of pace)
359 majors,500 captains.
radioacti...@gmail.com
Oct 5, 2023, 6:23:58 PM10/5/23
to
As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting body-count--anyone meanwhile bother to correspondingly add up all the cloned "angle-brackets" amassed thus far in this lengthy, carets-littered thread?--I shall remind you of what fading GOP hopeful Ron DeSantis so astutely stated awhile back: we [America] don't have a dog in this fight.*
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
===================
* Or at least shouldn't, in the view of both myself and the guy I twice helped send to the Guv's mansion in Tallahassee.
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
===================
* Or at least shouldn't, in the view of both myself and the guy I twice helped send to the Guv's mansion in Tallahassee.
Raul TW
Oct 6, 2023, 4:42:56 AM10/6/23
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On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 3:23:58 PM UTC-7, radioacti...@gmail.com wrote:
> As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting body-count-
History has shown that countries at war have often exaggerated the number of enemy soldiers killed. That has been true for thousands of years. So it is quite bizarre that this thread is relying solely on Ukrainian sources while ignoring other intelligence sources.
> As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting body-count-
The best way to estimate the number of Russian soldiers killed is to use a variety of sources. A variety of intelligence agencies are more likely to provide accurate estimates of Russian casualties.
Google:
As of October 6, 2023, the US intelligence community has estimated that between 70,000 and 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed, while the UK Ministry of Defense has estimated that between 50,000 and 75,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.
Swiss estimate of 55,000-65,000 Russian soldiers killed in the Ukraine war is as of October 2023. The estimate was published in the Swiss Federal Intelligence Service's (FIS) 2023 report on the global security situation, which was released in September 2023.
The FIS's estimate is based on the latest intelligence available to them, including intelligence intercepts, open-source reporting, and satellite imagery.
So we have multiple sources estimating that up to 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. While Ukrainian sources are claiming nearly 300,000.
The Swiss, UK and US numbers (~60,000-80,000) are in close agreement and are far more credible than the highly inflated Ukrainian claims of nearly 300,000.
Louis Epstein
Oct 6, 2023, 1:17:02 PM10/6/23
to
radioacti...@gmail.com <radioacti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting
> body-count--anyone meanwhile bother to correspondingly add up all the cloned
> "angle-brackets" amassed thus far in this lengthy, carets-littered thread?
Are you asking for cross-posts to alt.cascade?
> As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting
> body-count--anyone meanwhile bother to correspondingly add up all the cloned
> "angle-brackets" amassed thus far in this lengthy, carets-littered thread?
> --I shall remind you of what fading GOP hopeful Ron DeSantis so astutely
> stated awhile back: we [America] don't have a dog in this fight.*
order that "borders must not be changed by force" has a strong vested
interest in ensuring that Russia is left with nothing to show for its
aggression.
> BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
> ===================
> * Or at least shouldn't, in the view of both myself and the guy I twice
> helped send to the Guv's mansion in Tallahassee.
Raul TW
Oct 6, 2023, 8:15:11 PM10/6/23
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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:42:56 AM UTC-7, Raul TW wrote:
> So we have multiple sources estimating that up to 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. While Ukrainian sources are claiming nearly > 300,000.
>
> The Swiss, UK and US numbers (~60,000-80,000) are in close agreement and are far more credible than the highly inflated Ukrainian claims of nearly 300,000.
No independent credible sources have substantiated the Ukrainian claim of nearly 300,000 Russian soldiers killed. This suggests that the claim by Ukraine is likely inaccurate and highly exaggerated.
> So we have multiple sources estimating that up to 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. While Ukrainian sources are claiming nearly > 300,000.
>
> The Swiss, UK and US numbers (~60,000-80,000) are in close agreement and are far more credible than the highly inflated Ukrainian claims of nearly 300,000.
According to estimates by U.S., U.K., and Swiss intelligence, 60,000-80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.
These numbers are also in line with estimates by a German University working with independent Russian media outlets.
BRUSSELS (AP) — Nearly 50,000 Russian men have died in the war in Ukraine, according to the first independent statistical analysis of Russia’s war dead.
Two independent Russian media outlets, Mediazona and Meduza, working with a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University, used Russian government data to shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets — the true human cost of its invasion of Ukraine.
To do so, they relied on a statistical concept popularized during the COVID-19 pandemic called excess mortality. Drawing on inheritance records and official mortality data, they estimated how many more men under age 50 died between February 2022 and May 2023 than normal.
Louis Epstein
Oct 13, 2023, 2:38:00 AM10/13/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/13/7423932/
(the pace picking up again)
75 colonels,360 majors,506 captains.
Louis Epstein
Oct 18, 2023, 5:38:27 AM10/18/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/18/7424596/
(the pace has been rapid lately)
180 lt-colonels,511 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and am no longer able to read it off Twitter unless logged in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (persists)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even seeing a thumbnail now except as quoted by search engines
>>>>>>>>>>>> from Twitter.
latest version has 2958 total.
>>>>>>>>>>> Seems to let me read only random older tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have been locked out of being able to log in since October 2018.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last I saw the numbers were up on those I last quoted.(2396 or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total,163 LtCols...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently the missile that took out Major-General (Russian
Louis Epstein
Oct 20, 2023, 3:21:55 PM10/20/23
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thumbnail,with captains at 513,the 2 deaths verified
since on the Googledoc being the 879th Senior Lieutenant
and 537th Lieutenant.
Louis Epstein
Oct 22, 2023, 6:36:48 PM10/22/23
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Vietnam,though less than the Russians lost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I realize some readers are interested in opinions other
than the official Ukrainian numbers I keep updated.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/22/7425176/
quotes UK intelligence as believing "up to 290,000" (just
short of the number Ukraine reports as dead Russians) is
a plausible grand total of dead and wounded,though 100,000
of them would be "wounded...able to return to the battlefield
after recovery."...though this does NOT include mercenaries.
Louis Epstein
Oct 31, 2023, 2:57:19 AM10/31/23
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issues.
300,000 deaths were reached on day 615:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/31/7426472/
Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
(the 3040 graphic had 182 lt-cols but one must
have been reclassified afterward).
Louis Epstein
Nov 5, 2023, 5:23:59 AM11/5/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/5/7427243/
> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
530 captains
Adam H. Kerman
Nov 5, 2023, 9:11:44 AM11/5/23
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What are news reports or claims of aggregate civilian in Ukraine?
In the Russian-occupied areas? In Crimea? In Russia proper?
In the Russian-occupied areas? In Crimea? In Russia proper?
Louis Epstein
Nov 11, 2023, 3:02:07 AM11/11/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/11/7428310/
79 colonels,182 lt-cols,371 majors,536 captains.
Louis Epstein
Nov 16, 2023, 2:01:24 AM11/16/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/16/7428997/
very much like the 3109 Googledoc breakdown below.
>>> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
>>
>> 3074 total
>>
>>> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
>>
>> 530 captains
>
> 3109 total,
> 79 colonels,182 lt-cols,371 majors,536 captains.
81 colonels,185 lt-cols,542 captains.
Louis Epstein
Nov 22, 2023, 2:30:44 AM11/22/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/22/7429811/
>>>> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
>>>
>>> 3074 total
>>>
>>>> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
>>>
>>> 530 captains
>>
>> 3109 total,
>> 79 colonels,182 lt-cols,371 majors,536 captains.
>
> 3149 total,
> 81 colonels,185 lt-cols,542 captains.
82 colonels,187 lt-cols,373 majors,545 captains.
Louis Epstein
Nov 27, 2023, 2:03:09 AM11/27/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/27/7430497/
188 lt-cols,375 majors,547 captains.
Louis Epstein
Dec 1, 2023, 3:20:52 AM12/1/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/1/7431171/
(A very fast pace lately)
6 one-star generals (the latest apparently killed by a Russian landmine),
190 lt-cols,377 majors,554 captains.
Louis Epstein
Dec 6, 2023, 8:06:43 PM12/6/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/6/7431837/
>>>>>>> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3074 total
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 530 captains
>>>>>
>>>>> 3109 total,
>>>>> 79 colonels,182 lt-cols,371 majors,536 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 3149 total,
>>>> 81 colonels,185 lt-cols,542 captains.
>>>
>>> 3179 total,
>>> 82 colonels,187 lt-cols,373 majors,545 captains.
>>
>> 3204 total.
>> 188 lt-cols,375 majors,547 captains.
>
> 3237 total.
> 6 one-star generals (the latest apparently killed by a Russian landmine),
> 190 lt-cols,377 majors,554 captains.
83 colonels,192 lt-cols,381 majors,559 captains.
Louis Epstein
Dec 12, 2023, 2:42:28 AM12/12/23
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I hope it can be resolved soon.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/12/7432669/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated their graphic since the 2,000 mark of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verified dead Russian officers was reached on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,
>>>>>>>> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3074 total
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 530 captains
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3109 total,
>>>>>> 79 colonels,182 lt-cols,371 majors,536 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3149 total,
>>>>> 81 colonels,185 lt-cols,542 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 3179 total,
>>>> 82 colonels,187 lt-cols,373 majors,545 captains.
>>>
>>> 3204 total.
>>> 188 lt-cols,375 majors,547 captains.
>>
>> 3237 total.
>> 6 one-star generals (the latest apparently killed by a Russian landmine),
>> 190 lt-cols,377 majors,554 captains.
>
> 3268 total.
> 83 colonels,192 lt-cols,381 majors,559 captains.
colonels back DOWN to 82,
195 lt-cols,385 majors,563 captains.
Louis Epstein
Dec 17, 2023, 3:21:53 AM12/17/23
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/17/7433409/
>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3074 total
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 530 captains
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3109 total,
>>>>>>> 79 colonels,182 lt-cols,371 majors,536 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3149 total,
>>>>>> 81 colonels,185 lt-cols,542 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3179 total,
>>>>> 82 colonels,187 lt-cols,373 majors,545 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 3204 total.
>>>> 188 lt-cols,375 majors,547 captains.
>>>
>>> 3237 total.
>>> 6 one-star generals (the latest apparently killed by a Russian landmine),
>>> 190 lt-cols,377 majors,554 captains.
>>
>> 3268 total.
>> 83 colonels,192 lt-cols,381 majors,559 captains.
>
> 3300
> colonels back DOWN to 82,
> 195 lt-cols,385 majors,563 captains.
majors DOWN to 384,
captains up to 565.
Louis Epstein
Dec 21, 2023, 2:20:49 AM12/21/23
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as my old thread noted,than American
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/17/7433409/
(a 1,000-a-day pace seems sustained)
197 lt-cols,385 majors,567 captains.
Louis Epstein
Dec 21, 2023, 2:22:46 AM12/21/23
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(a 1,000-a-day pace seems sustained since Nov 11)
Louis Epstein
Dec 27, 2023, 2:54:44 AM12/27/23
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> (a 1,000-a-day pace seems sustained since Nov 11)
355,000 deaths were reached on day 672:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/27/7434733/
198 Lt-cols,386 majors.
Louis Epstein
Jan 1, 2024, 3:25:25 AMJan 1
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/1/7435371/
568 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the 3040 graphic had 182 lt-cols but one must
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been reclassified afterward).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems to let me read only random older tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have been locked out of being able to log
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in since October 2018.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last I saw the numbers were up on those I
Louis Epstein
Jan 8, 2024, 3:08:34 AMJan 8
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>>> (a 1,000-a-day pace seems sustained since Nov 11)
>>
>> 355,000 deaths were reached on day 672:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/27/7434733/
>
> 360,000 deaths were reached on day 677:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/1/7435371/
365,000 deaths were reached on day 684:
>>
>> 355,000 deaths were reached on day 672:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/27/7434733/
>
> 360,000 deaths were reached on day 677:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/1/7435371/
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/8/7436260/
(pace slowing a bit)
199 Lt-cols,387 majors.573 captains.
Louis Epstein
Jan 14, 2024, 4:57:03 AMJan 14
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/14/7437149/
(usually the exact 5,000 multiple is overshot)
3406
84 colonels,200 lt-cols,391 majors,578 captains.
Louis Epstein
Jan 20, 2024, 10:49:48 AMJan 20
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> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/20/7438117/
85 colonels,203 lt-cols,393 majors,586 captains.
Louis Epstein
Jan 26, 2024, 2:38:12 AMJan 26
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/26/7438943/
86 colonels,206 lt-cols,397 majors,588 captains.
Louis Epstein
Jan 31, 2024, 2:39:24 AMJan 31
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/31/7439651/
87 colonels,209 lt-cols,398 majors,593 captains.
Louis Epstein
Feb 1, 2024, 6:41:12 PMFeb 1
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(no new senior officers,
Senior Lieutenants are at 982,Lieutenants 643).
Louis Epstein
Feb 6, 2024, 1:55:31 AMFeb 6
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/6/7440556/
401 majors,594 captains.
Louis Epstein
Feb 11, 2024, 3:28:44 PMFeb 11
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/11/7441341/
colonels DOWN to 86,with 212 lt-cols,408 majors,600 captains.
Louis Epstein
Feb 16, 2024, 2:41:16 PMFeb 16
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/16/7442119/
I don't have the day for 100,000 handy,but the
first two hundred thousands were lost in an average
224 days since the second fell on day 448,the third
100,000 took 167 days,the fourth 108 days.
(Remember,the USA lost in the 50-thousands in the
whole of the Vietnam conflict,whether 1961-73 war
proper or everything 1955-75...the Russian invasion
of 2022 is not quite 2 years ago).
87 colonels,213 lt-cols,410 majors.
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