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Dawson Creek, BC: Horrific Accident Kills Chuckwagon Driver and 14 of his 15 Horses

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ZapRatz

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Aug 8, 2008, 8:58:36 PM8/8/08
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Horrific Accident Kills Chuckwagon Driver and Horses

Wed, 2008-08-06 16:01.
Dawson Creek, BC
http://www.cjdccountry.com/news/565/767263

It was a tragic start to what has been dubbed the greatest show in the
Peace. At approximately 2:30 Tuesday afternoon, long-time Chuckwagon
driver Herman Flad and 14 of his 15 horses were killed in a horrific
collision south of Rycroft.

The 69-year old was headed to the Battle of the North in Dawson Creek
from the WPCA Dodge Pro Tour Championship in Strathmore, when it
appears a pickup truck crossed the centre line, causing a head on
collision.

Family watched as emergency crews worked well into the evening trying
to recover the body, which had been pinned under the truck at the
bottom of a ravine. Miraculously, one horse survived the crash
suffering just cuts and bruises.

Just a day after the tragic loss, his son Troy has made the difficult
decision to do what his father would have wanted and compete at the
exhibition.

The start of the exhibition is usually an exciting time for racers,
but this year, the mood is somewhat more somber. Ironically, the
family confirms that after 37 years, this was to be Flad's final year
before retiring. And despite the horror of the accident scene, they
are taking solace in the fact that he died doing what he loved.

With the reins now passing to the next generation, Troy can only hope
he'll be able to fill his father's boots.

Herman is survived by his wife Jean, three children - fellow
Chuckwagon drivers Troy, Darcy and Shelly as well as 9 grandchildren.


Alicia Asquith CJDC TV News Dawson Creek

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Nightmare

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Aug 8, 2008, 10:46:34 PM8/8/08
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The Bill Cmelak of Antigo (Pearson), Wisconsin "tribute" website which
tells you everything that you need to know about this smelly, wife-
beating, child-molesting parasite:

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm

Bob Feigel

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Aug 8, 2008, 11:41:42 PM8/8/08
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[Default] On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:46:34 -0700 (PDT), Nightmare
<your_worse...@mac.hush.com> magnanimously proffered:

I see that Desperate John has morphed into yet another sockpuppet in
yet another pathetic attempt to be noticed and start another flamewar.
Face it, John. Your reputation is shot. Even your attempt to establish
a crappy Google group to rival to alt.obituaries has failed. A sane
man would get the message. Guess *that's* the problem ...


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Bob Feigel the Fool

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Aug 9, 2008, 12:07:26 AM8/9/08
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Feigel, do you remember when your butt buddy Fat Bill Cmelak of
Antigo, Wisconsin used to call you Flowerpot Bob? That's because he
thought that you were a foolish asshole who didn't understand what was
going on.

Here's a newsflash for you. YOU ARE STILL A FOOLISH ASSHOLE WHO
DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!

Cmelak is the best known person in the little towns of Pearson and
Antigo, Wisconsin and as long as he keeps posting insulting crap, and
then pretending that he's not doing same, with or without the help of
morons like yourself, then it's of interest to his family, neighbors,
and anyone else that he might come into contact with and contaminate
that they understand who he actually is.

And THANK YOU BOB for keeping Cmelak's name active tonight. I am sure
that he appreciates your efforts.

As for "other" obits newsgroups the group at http://www.voy.com/60649/
has a better selection of obits than anywhere else on the 'net,
including here. There was little sense in reinventing the wheel, once
I saw that. However, a simple-minded person like yourself who never
takes a risk wouldn't have the balls to start another group, nor would
they willingly admit that something that was already established was
better. Right?

The inability to do anything other than complain is one of those
traits that you have in common with Cmelak, and that's why he's almost
60 years old and never accomplished anything in his life. Sort of
like you, right? You are, after all, sort of the literary equivalent
of a septic tank digger and Cmelak is literally a septic tank pumper
and handyman. See, you two have plenty in common.

~~~

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm


Dedicated to Fat Bill Cmelak, Pearson Wisconsin's best known retard,
stalker, and troll.


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Steve Hayes

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Aug 9, 2008, 1:02:43 AM8/9/08
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:58:36 -0500, ZapRatz <zapratzR...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>Horrific Accident Kills Chuckwagon Driver and Horses
>
>Wed, 2008-08-06 16:01.
>Dawson Creek, BC
>http://www.cjdccountry.com/news/565/767263
>
>It was a tragic start to what has been dubbed the greatest show in the
>Peace. At approximately 2:30 Tuesday afternoon, long-time Chuckwagon
>driver Herman Flad and 14 of his 15 horses were killed in a horrific
>collision south of Rycroft.
>
>The 69-year old was headed to the Battle of the North in Dawson Creek
>from the WPCA Dodge Pro Tour Championship in Strathmore, when it
>appears a pickup truck crossed the centre line, causing a head on
>collision.

I'm still triying to picture what happened.

I thought a chuck wagon was a kind of meals on wheels mobile kitchen used to
feed people working with clocks and herds.

I can picture a chuck wagon being drawn by two or 4 horses, but 16?

That reminds me ... saw one of those "honeysucker" septic tank emptier trucks
the other day, and painted on the side was "Yesterday's meals on wheels".


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Bob Feigel

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Aug 9, 2008, 1:03:47 AM8/9/08
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[Default] On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:32:25 -0700, Terry del Fuego
<t_del...@hotmail.com> magnanimously proffered:

>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:41:42 +1200, Bob Feigel
><b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:
>
>>I see that Desperate John has morphed into yet another sockpuppet in
>>yet another pathetic attempt to be noticed and start another flamewar.
>

>Well, to be fair, ZapRatz is being kinda weird and posting articles
>about people, you know, dying. I can't imagine that anyone here wants
>to read that sort of thing.

Yup ... I suppose all these on-topic posts do get in the way of John's
flamewars. BTW - has John *ever* posted an obituary?

Charlene

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Aug 9, 2008, 1:09:06 AM8/9/08
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On Aug 9, 12:02 am, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:58:36 -0500, ZapRatz <zapratzRATSAP...@newsguy.com>

> wrote:
>
> >Horrific Accident Kills Chuckwagon Driver and Horses
>
> >Wed, 2008-08-06 16:01.
> >Dawson Creek, BC
> >http://www.cjdccountry.com/news/565/767263
>
> >It was a tragic start to what has been dubbed the greatest show in the
> >Peace. At approximately 2:30 Tuesday afternoon, long-time Chuckwagon
> >driver Herman Flad and 14 of his 15 horses were killed in a horrific
> >collision south of Rycroft.
>
> >The 69-year old was headed to the Battle of the North in Dawson Creek
> >from the WPCA Dodge Pro Tour Championship in Strathmore, when it
> >appears a pickup truck crossed the centre line, causing a head on
> >collision.
>
> I'm still triying to picture what happened.
>
> I thought a chuck wagon was a kind of meals on wheels mobile kitchen used to
> feed people working with clocks and herds.
>
> I can picture a chuck wagon being drawn by two or 4 horses, but 16?
>

Chuckwagon races are a sport common at Canadian rodeos. There's a
chuckwagon and four outriders: eight horses. It began at the Calgary
Stampede in 1923: during the Stampede today, the chuckwagon races are
televised live and regularly get more local viewers than the Academy
Awards, the Grey Cup, or the Super Bowl. Some years they beat all
three combined.

Not as many as the Stanley Cup finals, but you know what they say:
religion tops everything.

Darn! Got an obit to post. Hold on

wd44

La N

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Aug 9, 2008, 1:14:47 AM8/9/08
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"Charlene" <charlene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a115f1b4-2795-4670...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Having lived for a few years myself in Calgary, I can testify to what
Charlene is saying. I used to watch the chuckwagon races live during the
Calgary Stampede, but they got a little too graphic for me when I witnessed
a major tumble in which the cowboy got badly hurt and one of his horses so
horridly injured that it had to be euthanized.

- nilita, who also used to like watching the bullfights on t.v. when she was
a kid ...


ZapRatz

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Aug 9, 2008, 3:16:25 AM8/9/08
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:46:34 -0700 (PDT), Nightmare
<your_worse...@mac.hush.com> wrote:


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like ANYTHING presented upon that website has any truth to it. After
all, the scumbag who presents bullshit, lies and plagiarized content
there is a known pathological liar.

In fact, shown below is another example of his ineptitude transmitted
just this very evening. The abject fuck-up can't even get two of his
60+ troll aliases correct. A dead-giveaway broadcasted by a deadbeat!

BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eternal fuck-up asspyrate/asspiratejohn gilmer gilturd shows how
innately lame he is by posting messages containing fallacious,
felonious and abusive content which is identical within each message
and associated with the group of brief headers presented below.

PyrateJohn <Pyrat...@gmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=BcwhiwoAAACD9gy2Olru8xWmHqdna6oV

and

ZapRat <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=3WP74woAAAA_Vw41yh7revqBPlqDNS5r

From: PyrateJohn <Pyrat...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: ANTIGO WISCONSIN WOMAN GETS INJUNCTION AGAINST RETARDED
HILLBILLY
BILL CMELAK FOR STALKING HER 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<baf97f5d-9066-4197...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=BcwhiwoAAACD9gy2Olru8xWmHqdna6oV

==================================================

From: ZapRat <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: ANTIGO WISCONSIN WOMAN GETS INJUNCTION AGAINST RETARDED
HILLBILLY
BILL CMELAK FOR STALKING HER 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<426554ae-596d-44fa...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=3WP74woAAAA_Vw41yh7revqBPlqDNS5r

==================================================

From: ZapRat <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: ANTIGO WISCONSIN WOMAN GETS INJUNCTION AGAINST RETARDED
HILLBILLY
BILL CMELAK FOR STALKING HER 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<9dc5a946-0036-4ecb...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=3WP74woAAAA_Vw41yh7revqBPlqDNS5r

==================================================

From: ZapRat <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: ANTIGO WISCONSIN WOMAN GETS INJUNCTION AGAINST RETARDED
HILLBILLY
BILL CMELAK FOR STALKING HER 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:37:55 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<c90d8131-ae1a-4de2...@v57g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=3WP74woAAAA_Vw41yh7revqBPlqDNS5r

==================================================

From: ZapRat <your_worse...@mac.hush.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: ANTIGO WISCONSIN WOMAN GETS INJUNCTION AGAINST RETARDED
HILLBILLY
BILL CMELAK FOR STALKING HER 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<d03a06cc-fccd-48bb...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.15;
posting-account=3WP74woAAAA_Vw41yh7revqBPlqDNS5r

=====================================================


Extirpirate - http://www.extirpirate.com/


a portmanteau of extirpate and pirate

An archive of the abuse committed and transmitted by JOHN WESLEY
GILMER III, aka, PYRATEJOHN or PIRATEJOHN, who resides in an old
Bluebird bus - license plate *C26 2RR* registered in DUVAL COUNTY,
FLORIDA - parked on commercial rental property located at 221 N.
ARLINGTON RD, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32211-7806.

GILMER claims the title of vice-president for RINCON RTO REALTY, INC.
with the registered address of 103 8TH AVENUE NORTH, JACKSONVILLE, FL
32250. That address allegedly is the residence of his third and
current wife, CLAUDIA A. "JOEY" MARZEC.

The president of RINCON RTO REALTY, INC. is listed as DEBORAH LYNCH of
5131 ROGERS TRAIL, MCCLENNY, FL 32063 even though she apparently
co-habits with GILMER in the old bus in JACKSONVILLE.


Over the past five-plus years, PYRATEJOHN/PIRATEJOHN WESLEY GILMER III
transmitted thousands of malicious messages via the Internet while in
the employ of MOFFITT CORPORATION, 1351 13TH AVENUE SOUTH, SUITE 130,
JACKSONVILLE BEACH, FLORIDA, 32250, http://www.moffitthvac.com,.

PYRATEJOHN/PIRATEJOHN WESLEY GILMER III has utilized the following
partial list of Internet identities:

Pyrat...@gmail.com Jose.G...@gmail.com Pirat...@aol.com
jo...@buccaneerpress.com pirat...@buccaneerpress.com
Buccane...@aol.com Upd...@BuccaneerPublishing.com
matanza...@aol.com pirat...@yahoo.com
jgi...@moffitthvac.com warp...@aol.com pirate...@aol.com
Buccan...@aol.com Pira...@aol.com WarpT...@aol.com
JWGi...@aol.com Troll...@hush.com BillyRi...@aol.com
GodIsS...@aol.com Mr....@aol.com Fredd...@aol.com
TeamCo...@aol.com

plus, he has created and utilized each identity in the following
PARTIAL LIST of TROLL-variant or FORGED aliases:

Jose.G...@gmail.com david_...@yahoo.com
JHD_the...@insignificant.org scipi...@yahoo.com
rednecks_a...@yahoo.com Hoo...@hush.com
Karen_Anderson_...@yahoo.com rattler...@yahoo.com
Ginger_...@yahoo.com Alcib...@hush.com
Milh...@deadmusicians.com retarded_littl...@yahoo.com
F_Z...@deadmusicians.com village_id...@yahoo.com
Fat_Bil...@yahoo.com milhouse_...@yahoo.com
Billy_Cme...@hushmail.com, boytoy_r...@yahoo.com
your_worse...@mac.hush.com Dougla...@hushmail.com
Yellow-Ey...@hushmail.com auto2...@hushmail.com
bresner@eatmyshorts bre...@nerd.net bre...@retards.com
Hoo...@inbox.com jailbird...@hushmail.com
joseph...@lycos.com
feige...@live.com fat_bil...@gmx.com
LAKCME...@gmail.com short_b...@hushmail.com
whoo...@hushmail.com Snitch_...@hushmail.com
roy_li...@hushmail.com robert_no...@hushmail.com
cho_c...@hushmail.com Skanky_Kar...@yahoo.com
Troll...@hush.com feige...@live.com


Considering all of those aliases listed above were used by JOHN WESLEY
GILMER III, they are, in effect, all associated with

* http://www.PirateJohn.com
* http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com
* http://www.BuccaneerPress.com
* http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
* http://groups.google.com/group/jimmy_buffett-moderated
* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HumourList/
* http://groups.google.com/group/obituaries_online


PYRATEJOHN/PIRATEJOHN WESLEY GILMER III has boasted:

* of being "el presidente" of the Atlantic Beach Vintage
Motorcycle Club (http://www.ABVMC.com);
* of being a proud promoter of Riding Into History
(http://www.RidingIntoHistory.org);
* of competing in an Iron Butt Association 50CC in 2001;
* of his 1998 BMW R1100GS "Robomantis";
* of his 1996 BMW K1100RS mk. II "Franken-K" a/k/a "The
ArrestMeRed K";
* of his 1997 F650;
* of SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED's bike, a 1986 BMW K100RS Flying Brick
* "...that both [SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED] and [GILMER] have passed
[their] background checks as FEMA subcontractors to help during the
next disaster..." via "Message-ID:
<f953da36-a8d9-4db4...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>"


SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED is:

DEBORAH LYNCH with whom JOHN WESLEY GILMER III resided at 12526
AGATITE ROAD, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32258. It is the same DEBORAH
LYNCH (debly...@comcast.net of http://www.deblynchrealtor.com) who
is not worried about her privacy as stated in usenet "Message-ID:
<1106845004....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>" and instructed
GILMER to "give the jackasses both barrels"...


Extirpirate - http://www.extirpirate.com/

ZapRatz

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Aug 9, 2008, 3:29:40 AM8/9/08
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:03:47 +1200, Bob Feigel
<b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:

>[Default] On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:32:25 -0700, Terry del Fuego
><t_del...@hotmail.com> magnanimously proffered:
>
>>On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:41:42 +1200, Bob Feigel
>><b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:
>>
>>>I see that Desperate John has morphed into yet another sockpuppet in
>>>yet another pathetic attempt to be noticed and start another flamewar.
>>
>>Well, to be fair, ZapRatz is being kinda weird and posting articles
>>about people, you know, dying. I can't imagine that anyone here wants
>>to read that sort of thing.
>
>Yup ... I suppose all these on-topic posts do get in the way of John's
>flamewars. BTW - has John *ever* posted an obituary?


Four or five years ago was his most prolific year for transmitting
on-topic obituary-type content.

Out of about 2,000 total messages which he posted into this newsgroup,
just 12 of them were fully obit-type and on-topic.

Initiating an average of one on-topic message per month for a whole
year must have been a terrific burden on him.

Bob Feigel the Fool

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Aug 9, 2008, 10:09:47 PM8/9/08
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Cmelak, you are a retard. While the rest of us were developing
careers you were flunking out of a slow-learners' high school, then
flunking out of a small technical college, and then barely getting by
as a maintenance man/septic tank cleaner. At almost 60 years of age
what exactly do you have to show for yourself?

Anyway, I don't know which is more pathetic. Bragging that you are
some sort of important poster to a newsgroup (have you even noticed
how few of your threads anyone responds to?) or sitting down and
calculating the number of "on topic" threads of the guy that you are
insanely jealous of.

Anyway, thanks for the info. Personally, I wouldn't have wasted my
time determining whatever it was that you think that you determined,
but since you don't have much of a life I guess that you numbers are
as good as anything else that you post. Which is inevitably 99%
bullshit.

Man, when someone looks up the word "loser" in the dictionary, you or
someone else from your family must be standing there. Holding up a
beer can.


Bob Feigel the Fool

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Aug 9, 2008, 10:10:51 PM8/9/08
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