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danny burstein

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Nov 25, 2006, 8:43:25 AM11/25/06
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Wounded reliving night with 'Bobby'
BY SANDY BANKS, LOS ANGELES TIMES
November 24, 2006

On the night Robert F. Kennedy was mortally wounded at the Ambassador Hotel,
five others were felled by his assassin's bullets: a labor leader, two newsmen,
a Democratic Party activist and a teenage campaign volunteer.

It took years for the whispers and stares to cease, the investigators to
disappear, the introductions that started with "He got shot with Bobby Kennedy"
to stop. As the 1968 assassination receded in the nation's memory, their
stories seemed destined for the historical trash heap.

Last week, "Bobby," a motion picture about the assassination, opened. The
characters of the wounded don't exist in the film. But they recognize that
"Bobby" may renew public interest in the killing, forcing them out of the
shadows and into the intersection of Hollywood and history.

"I'm sure there's a service being done by making the movie," said William
Weisel, a retired ABC News associate director who was hit in his left side as
he stood behind Kennedy. "But it's not the facts, and I think that's a shame.
... I want to remember it the way it was."

Who they were

Weisel, then 30, was one of the five bystanders shot by Sirhan Sirhan as
Kennedy made his way through the crowded kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel in Los
Angeles just after midnight on June 5, 1968, after thanking supporters gathered
in the hotel ballroom to celebrate his victory in California's Democratic
presidential primary.

Paul Schrade, then 43, was a regional director for the United Auto Workers
who had broken with union leadership to campaign for Kennedy. He was shot
in the head and bled so heavily onlookers thought he was dead.

Ira Goldstein, 19, was a rookie radio reporter who had just shaken hands
with Kennedy when he was shot in the hip. He hobbled to a chair and
collapsed.

Irwin Stroll was a 17-year-old campaign volunteer whose parents found out
he'd been shot when they saw him on television, stumbling out of the
Ambassador's kitchen, his pants leg stained with blood.

Elizabeth Evans, 43, was a Democratic Party activist who had supported
Kennedy's opponent, but went to the Ambassador that night because she
loved a party. She was grazed in the forehead.

rest:

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/stories/ny-ussir244989132nov24,0,4864799.story

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Rich Clancey

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Nov 26, 2006, 3:34:56 PM11/26/06
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danny burstein done wrote:
>On the night Robert F. Kennedy was mortally wounded at the Ambassador Hotel,
>five others were felled by his assassin's bullets: a labor leader, two newsmen,
>a Democratic Party activist and a teenage campaign volunteer.

Must have been using one of those TV guns with an infinite number
of bullets.

--
rich clancey r...@bahleevyoome.world.std.com
"Shun those who deny we have eyes in order to see, and instead say we
see because we happen to have eyes." -- Leibniz

spi...@hotmail.com

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Nov 26, 2006, 4:10:57 PM11/26/06
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Rich Clancey wrote:
> danny burstein done wrote:
> >On the night Robert F. Kennedy was mortally wounded at the Ambassador Hotel,
> >five others were felled by his assassin's bullets: a labor leader, two newsmen,
> >a Democratic Party activist and a teenage campaign volunteer.
>
> Must have been using one of those TV guns with an infinite number
> of bullets.

The gun that was used was a .22 caliber Iver Johnson revolver which had
an 8 bullet capacity.

danny burstein

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Nov 26, 2006, 4:54:15 PM11/26/06
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In <1164575456....@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> spi...@hotmail.com writes:

All I'll say is it was a good thing Rosie Greer caugt
and sat on Sirhan Bisara Sirhan [a] (alas, too late
to stop the murder). Otherwise we'd have even more
conspira-loons...

[a] When Rosie Greer sat on you, you were most
assuredly sat on.

--

Hoodini

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:04:12 PM11/29/06
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danny burstein said the following On 11/26/2006 3:54 PM:

> All I'll say is it was a good thing Rosie Greer caugt
> and sat on Sirhan Bisara Sirhan [a] (alas, too late
> to stop the murder). Otherwise we'd have even more
> conspira-loons...
> [a] When Rosie Greer sat on you, you were most
> assuredly sat on.


I like how the white folk(s) yelled for the black guy to: "Get the
gun, Rafer! Get the gun, Rafer!"

Rafer Johnson, that is.

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"Tell him I blame him for the children we have lost, for the sickness
we have suffered, and for the hunger we have endured. The fault rests
on his shoulders."
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Territorial Governor Alexander Ramsey

King Daevid MacKenzie

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:45:06 PM11/29/06
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Hoodini quotes danny burstein 'n sez:

>> All I'll say is it was a good thing Rosie Greer caugt
>> and sat on Sirhan Bisara Sirhan [a] (alas, too late
>> to stop the murder). Otherwise we'd have even more
>> conspira-loons...
>> [a] When Rosie Greer sat on you, you were most
>> assuredly sat on.
>
>
> I like how the white folk(s) yelled for the black guy to: "Get the gun,
> Rafer! Get the gun, Rafer!"
>
> Rafer Johnson, that is.

...the "get the gun" quote comes from an audio report by Andrew West of
Los Angeles radio station KRKD. West's report was later fed to the
Mutual network, of which KRKD was the main Los Angeles affiliate, and it
became one of the most famous news actuality clips of the period when it
was incorporated into Tom Clay's "What the World Needs Now" hit single
(a million-seller and Top 10 hit in 1971). Ron Jacobs, who had been
program director of KHJ in Los Angeles, has claimed for years that West
was nowhere near the Ambassador Hotel that night, faked that report and
fed it to Mutual for the extra money -- that claim used to appear on
http://www.reelradio.com/rj/kpoi/index.html but I see that site owner
Richard Irwin has removed that claim in recent weeks -- and he
previously fired West from three different radio gigs in Hawaii and
California. While Jacobs may have a personal axe to grind against West,
that detail could very well be a tip-off that the tape *was* faked...

--
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Hyfler/Rosner

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> Wounded reliving night with 'Bobby'
> BY SANDY BANKS, LOS ANGELES TIMES
> November 24, 2006
>
> On the night Robert F. Kennedy was mortally wounded at the
> Ambassador Hotel, five others were felled by his
> assassin's bullets: a labor leader, two newsmen, a
> Democratic Party activist and a teenage campaign
> volunteer.
>
.
>
> Irwin Stroll was a 17-year-old campaign volunteer whose
> parents found out he'd been shot when they saw him on
> television, stumbling out of the Ambassador's kitchen, his
> pants leg stained with blood.


St. Petersburg Times (Florida)
February 22, 1995, Wednesday, City Edition

IRWIN N. STROLL, 43, a prominent interior designer who was
wounded in the 1968 Robert F. Kennedy assassination, died
Thursday in Los Angeles of AIDS complications. Mr. Stroll
was shot in the leg on June 5, 1968, at the Ambassador
Hotel, where Kennedy had gone to address supporters in Los
Angeles after his victory in California's Democratic
presidential primary. Then an art student and Kennedy
volunteer, Mr. Stroll made a full recovery and established
a lucrative design practice. His clients included
celebrities Dustin Hoffman, Regis Philbin and Jackie
Collins.


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