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Brad Ferguson

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Jan 12, 2007, 10:31:22 PM1/12/07
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In article <17jgq252avbp4ee5q...@4ax.com>, Terry del
Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:15:29 GMT, "An Unemployed Eight-Year-Old Girl"
> <a...@hot.net> quoted:
>
> >Manhart told Playboy that she considers herself as standing up for her
> >rights.
>
> She's certainly being clearly told what she's *really* risking her
> life for.


Pretty much the same thing happened when Playboy did a "Women of the
Armed Forces" feature back in 1980. I remember that the Marine who
posed, Bambi Lin Finney, was discharged. Google doesn't have anything
about what happened to the others.

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aka Bob

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Jan 12, 2007, 11:24:04 PM1/12/07
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:18:03 -0800, Gary Edstrom
<GEds...@PacBell.Net> magnanimously proffered:

>While the military often has double standards, I have to agree with
>their decision to relieve her of duty. She is in charge of training
>airmen. How can she possibly be taken seriously by those under her when
>she has posed for Playboy?

What about those on top of her?


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Matthew Kruk

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Jan 12, 2007, 11:52:02 PM1/12/07
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"Brad Ferguson" <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote in message
news:120120072231224862%thir...@frXOXed.net...

Wow, quite an impression for you to remember her whole name :-)


John M.

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Jan 13, 2007, 12:39:00 AM1/13/07
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:15:29 GMT, "A" <a...@hot.net> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
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>
>http://www.ksdk.com/news/watercooler/hot_topics_article.aspx?storyid=110780
>[clothed photo of her]
>
>"Air Force Sergeant Relieved Of Duty After Posing For Playboy"
>
>Created: 1/12/2007 9:38:14 AM
>Last updated: 1/12/2007 11:42:17 AM
>
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>SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- An Air Force staff sergeant who posed nude for Playboy
>magazine has been relieved of her duties while the military investigates,
>officials said Thursday.

SNL material for sure.

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John M.

Bill Schenley

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Jan 13, 2007, 1:58:56 AM1/13/07
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> > > Manhart told Playboy that she considers herself as
> > > standing up for her rights.
>
> > She's certainly being clearly told what she's *really*
> > risking her life for.

"I've been serving for 13 years, fighting
for everyone's rights. Why wouldn't I be
able to stand up for my own rights and
participate in the freedoms that make
this country what it is?"
- Michelle Manhart -

> Pretty much the same thing happened when Playboy did
> a "Women of the Armed Forces" feature back in 1980. I
> remember that the Marine who posed, Bambi Lin Finney,
> was discharged. Google doesn't have anything about what
> happened to the others.

More on that:

Sergeant in Trouble for Playboy Photos

Photo:
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Playboy_Military-image.html

FROM: The Associated Press ~
By Elizabeth White, Press Writer

"Drop and give me 20!" is something you might hear Air Force Staff Sgt.
Michelle Manhart yell to airmen trainees at Lackland Air Force Base.
Drop her trousers is what Manhart did for Playboy magazine, and now
it's landed her in trouble with the military.

"Of what I did, nothing is wrong so I didn't anticipate anything of
course," Manhart said Thursday of the pictorial. "I didn't do anything
wrong so I didn't think it would be a major issue."

In a six-page spread in February's issue, hitting newsstands this week,
Manhart is photographed in uniform yelling and holding weapons under
the headline "Tough Love." The following pages show her partially
clothed wearing her dog tags while working out, as well as completely
nude.

Manhart, 30, who is married with two children, has been relieved of her
duties pending an investigation, according to Lackland AFB spokesman
Oscar Balladares.

"This staff sergeant's alleged action does not meet the high standards
we expect of our airmen, nor does it comply with the Air Force's core
values of integrity, service before self, and excellence in all we do.
It is not representative of the many thousands of outstanding airmen
who serve in the U.S. Air Force today," Balladares said, reading a
statement.

Manhart has modeled since she was younger and joined the Air Force in
1994, spending time in Kuwait in 2002. The California native said she
hopes the Playboy photo shoot will pave a way into an acting or
modeling career.

The pictorial's accompanying article mentioned the possibility of
trouble for the brunette drill instructor. But when asked in the
article whether it might get her in "hot water with Uncle Sam," Manhart
replied: "I've been serving for 13 years, fighting for everyone's
rights. Why wouldn't I be able to stand up for my own rights and
participate in the freedoms that make this country what it is?"

Manhart said she didn't see the magazine as an escape from the
military. She also said she is completely committed to her job.

"I've proven myself. ... They picked me to train our future airmen of
the world," she said. "They picked me to train these individuals so if
they elect to say I don't have (integrity) then that's their opinion."

Playboy magazine spokeswoman Theresa Hennessey said two active-duty
women have posed nude in Playboy in the past. Both were in the Navy,
she said.

One, Sherry Lynne White, was discharged in July 2000 after posing nude
for the magazine. She had been scheduled to be released from duty that
October.

Another, Frederica Spilman, received an honorable discharge, which she
had sought before posing, and a letter expressing the Navy's dismay
less than a week after the June 1998 issue hit newsstands.

Spilman appeared in the magazine wearing opened flight jackets,
camouflage lingerie and dog tags. The six-page pictorial, under the
heading "Fly Girl," also included pictures of Spilman in her Navy
uniform and flight suit.

Hennessey added that seven women also were featured in a "Women of the
Armed Forces" spread in April 1980.

Manhart said the shoot came about after she went on a casting call and
kept getting called back for test shots. The February pictorial was
shot last spring, she said.

"The Air Force says go do something amazing, and I think I pretty much
did it," she said.

Bill Schenley

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Jan 13, 2007, 2:21:46 AM1/13/07
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Gary Edstrom wrote:

> While the military often has double standards, I have
> to agree with their decision to relieve her of duty. She
> is in charge of training airmen. How can she possibly
> be taken seriously by those under her when she has
> posed for Playboy?

When I was in the Army ... I saw a lot of men without their clothes on.
I didn't take them less seriously because of that.

Over the last 58 years ... I've seen a lot of women naked ... and I
don't take them less seriously because of that (Okay, maybe sometimes.
But they were ... well, that's probably not important).

Anyway, my point is, that today, in 2007, if we are going to send young
women into harm's way, then that whole "double standard," needs to be
tossed to side.

> Would you jump to obey some arbitrary order given to
> you by Pam Anderson?

First, she's not Pam Anderson. But if Pam Anderson had given 13 years
of service, including a tour in Kuwait, you're damn right I'd expect an
airman to obey an arbitrary order given by her. And if he didn't, I'd
expect him to have his ass handed to him.

> It really breaks down the chain of military command.

Com'on ... After George W. Bush ... What the hell else can they do to
the break-down of the chain of command ... After Bush ... Staff
Sergeant Manhart's tits are downright refreshing ...

Bustoff

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Jan 13, 2007, 6:21:51 AM1/13/07
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I bet they can't stock enough copies of Playboy at the Lackland
commisary. Just imagine all the jizz that's been flying in those
barracks. Eye protection is probably required.You go girl. With all
this publicity you can quit your day job and find a nice pole on the
north side to hang on. The jealous fat Messkins that canned you can
come watch you dance and fill you g-string with Jacksons. Life is good.

Brad Ferguson

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Jan 13, 2007, 9:42:19 AM1/13/07
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In article <SzZph.147570$YV4.5453@edtnps89>, Matthew Kruk
<Matthe...@Telus.net> wrote:


Heh. She was cute, all right, but not *that* cute. I had to look up
her name.

I googled the names of everyone in the feature. Only the name of Susan
Gage came up, and I'm pretty sure it's not the same Susan Gage.

PirateJohn

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Jan 13, 2007, 11:37:23 AM1/13/07
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Bill Schenley wrote:

>
> Over the last 58 years ... I've seen a lot of women naked ... and I
> don't take them less seriously because of that (Okay, maybe sometimes.
> But they were ... well, that's probably not important).
>


Is this the one with Wiley Coyote chasing the Road Runner into a place
that we cannot mention in polite company?

Man, I'll bet that she regrets that tattoo ...

Hoodini

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Jan 13, 2007, 1:23:01 PM1/13/07
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I hope a Vietnam vet kicks your fucking disrespectful monkey-ass, you
fucking loser puke!

You don't deserve to live in the United States of America you
cock-smoking cum-guzzler.

How many Americans died in Vietnam, or while supporting the efforts
there, so you have the freedom to even visit a liquor store?

You are a total piece of shit, gilturd, and the sooner a Vietnam vet
or anyone else cancels your undeserved subscription to this lifetime,
the better off everyone will be.

You fucking talk big about having your fugly cunt albino buffalofriend
buy you a former military vehicle so you can play truckstop Lolita to
real men but, you denigrate the very lives of the heroes who died
while serving the US military alongside those trucks.

Fuck you, ass-pirate john wesley gilmer III, aka, fucking loser gilturd.

Die, ass-pirate DIE!!!!!!!!

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rednecks_are_stoo...@yahoo.com wrote:

> J. Buffett wrote:
>
> > I post in the Vietnam vet newsgroup.
>
>
> Oh, I'm sure that this comment is just stinky, spoiled bait but taking
> a look at that group there are some names that I recognize. All of
> them white supremacists. Black-hating, Hispanic-hating, rednecks.
>
> Fuckups that I love to kick to the curb every chance that I get.
>
> Subhuman wankers who are laughingstocks.
>
> A bunch of moronic losers that, as the expression goes, I wouldn't
> bother to piss on if they were on fire.
>
> The kind of pussys that hide behind hoods and anonymous remailers and
> fake sockpuppets because in a face-to-face confrontation they'd get
> their asses kicked.
>
> Figures. You hamburger-flipping greasers are the dumbest of the dumb.
> The offal of our society who never amounted to anything and who blame
> their problems on others.
>
> Just like crybaby Cmelak there. He never amounted to anything. He
> never could graduate from technical school. Who was a truck
driver and
> a grease monkey and now thinks that he's some sort of pseudointellect
> because he's online and trolling and using words he doesn't
understand,
> when the reality is that he's disabled and marginally employed. And
> lonely. Did I mention lonely? Too bad that no one in Cmelak's
working
> life ever felt that he was management material - he might have had at
> least a minimum of self esteem.
>
> Or Karen Anderson, my other favorite anonymous troll. A
"racialist" as
> she describes it who doesn't believe in "race mixing." Anderson never
> got past being a waitress, and now she drives literally across country
> to get kicked to the curb by men that don't want to have anything
to do
> with her. At half my height, with a gut bigger than mine, and with
> tits that sag to her knees, if if she wasn't skanky as all hell she
> still wouldn't look good.
>
> Yeah, you guys are really pathetic.
>
> Why don't you invite Cmelak out for a cross burning this weekend? He
> needs to do something with his life. He wrote on another group
that he
> celebrated New Years by himself by listening to Sirius Radio.
>
> Pathetic.
>
> You clowns are simply pathetic.
>
> No wonder you can't keep any facts straight when you post crap. You
> aren't lying, you are most likely just too stupid to remember or
> understand the way things really are.

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MWB

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My son asked me to send that issue to Iraq. He wants to hang her up in the
motor pool.


GO ARMY
Mark


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