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Michel Trudeau, Son of Maggie and Pierre, dead at 23

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John Stone

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Nov 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/16/98
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FJA wrote:
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> David Migicovsky <da...@see.sig> wrote in article
> <1HZ32.396$314.3...@news.randori.com>...
> > Trudeau was drowned on Friday after being swept into Kokanee Lake in
> British
> > Columbia's Kokanee Glacier Provincial Park by an avalanche.
> >
> > Michel was the youngest of three Trudeau sons and the only one not born
> on
> > Christmas Day.
> >
>
> This is a very sad, sad thing. From what I've read, Michel seemed like a
> very gentle, nice guy who very eloquently stood up for his mother. The
> story of his death is heartbreaking. How come nobody could have helped
> him???? He was in that water for 20 minutes, according to eyewitnesses.
> Why couldn't they have done anything to save him?


According to the New York Times he was swept out 300 feet from
the shoreline by the avalanche. That far out into the lake it
would probably be next to impossible for someone to rescue him
plus the water was probably extremely cold.

David Migicovsky

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Nov 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/16/98
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John Stone wrote in message <365093...@pilot.msu.edu>...


Yes. No boat and no one was wearing suitable clothing.

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Maria

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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Also, The Globe and Mail said he was wearing about 20 kilograms of
equipment.

-Maria

FJA

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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And then to make things worse I've heard reports that his dog (the same one
that he was looking for after his car crash this summer in Manitoba)
refused to leave the site of the accident and has subsequently disappeared.
This story is just so so sad.

Leslie

Val Marra

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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No, I heard they have the dog looking for him, along with a dog that
belonged to the girlfriend of his friend. I know this may sound callous,
but why all this search effort? If he loved nature, why don't they let him
rest there? My great grandfather was buried at sea, and in a way I htink
that is kind of beautiful. It's almost going to be impossible to find him,
poor sweet soul. I guess it's the closure thing.


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Fiona McQuarrie

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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John Stone (sto...@pilot.msu.edu) wrote:
: >
: > This is a very sad, sad thing. From what I've read, Michel seemed like a

: > very gentle, nice guy who very eloquently stood up for his mother. The
: > story of his death is heartbreaking. How come nobody could have helped
: > him???? He was in that water for 20 minutes, according to eyewitnesses.
: > Why couldn't they have done anything to save him?


He was in the middle of a lake and he was wearing winter gear, a heavy
backpack, and
ski equipment. As were his friends. Even if they could have dumped all
that in time to swim out to him, he probably would have sunk by that time,
and the water was so cold (this is a mountain lake in early November)
anyone in the lake would probably get hypothermia before they could save
someone else. Very tragic.

Cheers, Fiona

Fiona McQuarrie

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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My apologies to John. After seeing another posting, I realize that he
didn't write this, but was quoting another poster.

Cheers, Fiona

Fiona McQuarrie (mcqu...@sfu.ca) wrote:

slm...@netcom.ca

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Nov 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/17/98
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Val Marra wrote:
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> No, I heard they have the dog looking for him, along with a dog that
> belonged to the girlfriend of his friend. I know this may sound callous,
> but why all this search effort? If he loved nature, why don't they let him
> rest there? My great grandfather was buried at sea, and in a way I htink
> that is kind of beautiful. It's almost going to be impossible to find him,
> poor sweet soul. I guess it's the closure thing.
>

I think the family that wants his body to bury.

Lisa (Halifax, NS)

Gary Smith

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Doris Duke wanted to be fed to sharks at sea but her butler had her
cremated instead. Some said it was to cover up for all the drugs he was
pumping into her IV (her doctor was Victoria Principal's husband) in the
days leading up to her death. He had changed her will to be named executor
of her multi-billion dollar estate (her family owned The American Tobacco
Co.) and as such was allowed to spend millions through her charitable
trusts. Doris was a very eccentric woman and wanted to be ripped to shreds
and eaten by sharks after she was dead. The butler, Gerald Lafferty died a
year or so later of a heart attack. No word on how his remains were
disposed.

Louis Epstein

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Gary Smith (King...@psnw.com) wrote:
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: Doris Duke wanted to be fed to sharks at sea but her butler had her

: cremated instead. Some said it was to cover up for all the drugs he was
: pumping into her IV (her doctor was Victoria Principal's husband) in the
: days leading up to her death. He had changed her will to be named executor
: of her multi-billion dollar estate (her family owned The American Tobacco
: Co.)

Her estate was under a billion,and she certainly did not control
what was by then American Brands.

: and as such was allowed to spend millions through her charitable

:

Gary Smith

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Louis Epstein <l...@put.com> wrote in article
<F2LpL...@news2.new-york.net>...


>
> Her estate was under a billion,and she certainly did not control
> what was by then American Brands.
>
>

According to Pony Duke in his biography of his aunt Doris ("Too Rich"), he
claims that the art and furnishings alone in "Shangri-La" her estate on
Oahu was worth at least One Billion Dollars. In 1974, Doris invited an
appraiser from The Metropolitan Museum Of Art to give her an evaluation of
Shangri-La's contents. When the subtotal reached $1.5 Billion she said,
"Stop, I don't want to know". She was stunned to find out that a dish she
was using as an ashtray was valued at over three hundred thousand dollars.

In addition to her homes (she had at least five) there was a Swiss bank
account established by her father, Buck Duke. The holdings were said to be
gold bullion, measured in the TONS.

While Ms. Duke's acknowledged estate may have been under one billion
dollars, it is highly likely that her net worth was somewhere in the 2 to
10 billion dollar range.


Gary Smith

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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You are close to accuracy here but let me fill in a few of the details:

Doris Duke had a home in Newport, RI which had once belonged to Alfred
Vanderbilt called Rough Point. During the mid-1960's while redecorating and
refurbishing the 20,000 sq. foot mansion she met a youngish set designer
from Hollywood named Edward "Eddie" Tirella (did the sets for "The
Sandpiper" starring Elizabeth Taylor). Eddie helped Doris with her massive
project and in the process she became attached to him (whether or not they
had an affair is unknown, some doubt it because Tirella was gay but that
never stopped Doris). She was the benefactor to the very ambitious and
venerable Historical Society of Newport County. As such she was planning a
massive renovation of many of the mansions (several more lavish and larger
than her own) to be restored at her expense. She wanted Tirella to oversee
the project. Tirella was tiring of playing lapdog to Doris and wanted to
return to Hollywood where a career and many pretty boys awaited him. One
afternoon Tirella made his intentions of returning to California known and
Doris flew into a rage. The quarrel lasted several hours during which the
two reportedly downed several bottles of champagne (probably Crystal). At
about 3:00 PM Doris noted that she had a meeting with the Historical
Society in town and asked Tirella to join her. Fearing another blow up he
agreed. Doris had a garage full of Rolls Royces, Mercedes, Cadillacs and
Lincolns but curiously chose a rented Dodge Polara station wagon (new 1967
model) for the trip. When they made their way along the winding drive to
the gates of the mansion, Doris told Tirella to jump out and open the
gates. No one knows what exactly happened next excecept that the station
wagon suddenly shot forward and hit Tirella and the massive iron gates with
such force that the car not only crushed Tirella against the structure but
tore the gates off the hinges and dragged Tirella across the street.
Tirella was said to have been so mutilated that he resembled hamburger and
the coroner could not tell if he were male of female.

A police investigation cleared Miss Duke of any wrongdoing calling it an
unfortunate accident. In fact, there is no record of the accident ever
occuring in the police files in Newport according to Pony Duke, Doris'
nephew. Supposedly the town realized that if she were prosecuted there
would be no more funding to the historical society and chose to chalk up
the incident to accidental causes.

Alfie <al...@webspan.net> wrote in article
<3654149A...@webspan.net>...
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> Duke was also involved in a scandal back in the 70's when she was
> coming home with a date during a very rainy night. As the man got out to
> buzz the guards, the car leaped forward and pinned him between the gate
> and the car, crushing him to death. Speculation was that Duke put the
> car in gear on purpose after an argument..


Terrymelin

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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Since Alfred Vandebilt was a second cousin of mine and I grew up a stone's
throw from "Rough Point" let me tell you that every one who was there that day
believes that Doris Duke deliberately murdered the designer. She just got away
with it because the provincial Newport police are afraid of anyone with money
and she got off scot free.

She was a murderer and a despicable person. Long may she burn.

Terry Ellsworth

Landesmith

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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I haven't been on here for awhile, did he really die?
When?

PirateJohn

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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NO, he did not, but there has been speculation that he's in very poor health.

Johnny Kidd

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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I was a bit unhappy. Scanning this thread on my newsreader I had
thought it said " David Duke denied burial at sea " and was
disappointed that it is Doris not David that is in question.
Too bad that we are not talking about the obituary of David Duke...


Alfie wrote:

> I believe it was deliberate....Doris Duke was above the law in this
> case.
>
> Alfie


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