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Louis Epstein

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Aug 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/14/97
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The Guinness Book editors have made an announcement after verifying
submitted claims to succeed Jeanne Calment as the oldest person alive.

In first place is a woman in Quebec,
Marie-Louise Febronie (Chasse) Meilleur,
born August 29th 1880.

In second is a woman near Philadelphia,
Sarah Knauss,
born September 24th 1880.

In each case these women take over their countries' previously accepted
national records.The United States record was fairly recent,having been
set by Mme. Calment's immediate predecessor as world doyenne,Carrie
C. (Joyner) White(November 18th 1874-Feb 16th 1991).(It is worth noting
that the Connecticut ex-schoolteacher who was born in 1881 and died short
of her birthday in 1996 was therefore never actually the oldest living
person in the USA,only thought to be).I suppose only the world title was
considered worth a claim to her?

The Canadian record,however,was the oldest in the book,set by Pierre
Joubert(Jul 15th 1701-Nov 16th 1814).Joubert was also recorded as the
world recordholder by Guinness until the mid-1970s when they satisfied
themselves that Delina (Ecker) Filkins had surpassed him in 1928.

In the musing department,if before he died Joubert had met Channel
Islands recordholder Margaret Ann (Harvey) Neve(1792-1903) as a young
woman,and Mrs. Meilleur had as a young woman met Mrs. Neve,it would
still be possible for her to have heard as an adult stories of the
early 18th century heard as an adult from someone who had been there!

It is worth noting that Mrs. Meilleur,unlike Mme. Calment,has genes still
in the pool...she has over 300 descendants!!

Louis Epstein

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Aug 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/15/97
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Louis Epstein (l...@put.com) wrote:
: Louis Epstein (l...@put.com) wrote:
: : The Guinness Book editors have made an announcement after verifying
:
: OK,the "pass date" for Meilleur to surpass Calment is February 10,2002.
: For Knauss,March 8,2002.

OOPS...2003 in both cases.thye turn 122 in 2002,obviously,and then the 164
days start.

: Good luck to them!Why should 122 years 164 days be a limit?

NPS

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Aug 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/16/97
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In article <EEx15...@nonexistent.com>, l...@put.com says...

>
>The Guinness Book editors have made an announcement after verifying
>submitted claims to succeed Jeanne Calment as the oldest person alive.
>
>In first place is a woman in Quebec,
>Marie-Louise Febronie (Chasse) Meilleur,
>born August 29th 1880.
>
>In second is a woman near Philadelphia,
>Sarah Knauss,
>born September 24th 1880.

"NEAR PHILADELPHIA"?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

She lives in ALLENTOWN, fourth-largest city in the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania!!!!!

Near Philadelphia...good grief!


Louis Epstein

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Aug 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/17/97
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NPS (eag...@enter.net) wrote:
: In article <EEx15...@nonexistent.com>, l...@put.com says...

The wire story I first read said "near Philadelphia",and also failed
to mention that Mrs. Meilleur had moved from Quebec to Corbeil,Ontario.

The following are the Guinness-authenticated persons who have
featured in tables or sidebars in various editions from 1970 on,
or been otherwise mentioned has having passed muster with their
documentation standards.I omit those who did not make it to 110,
which no longer gets onto a table when they publish one.

CHRONOLOGICALLY
Years Days Born Died
Pierre Joubert 113 124 July 15,1701 November 16,1814
Thomas Peters 111 354 April 6,1745 March 26,1857
Geert Adrians
Boomgaard 110 113 September 23,1788 February 3,1899
Margaret Ann (Harvey)
Neve 110 321 May 18,1792 April 4,1903
Delina (Ecker) Filkins 113 214 May 4,1815 December 4,1928
Demetrius Philipovitch 110 150+ March 9,1818 alive August 1928
Hon. Katherine Plunket 111 327 November 22,1820 October 14,1932
El Hadj Mohammed El
Mokri 112 +?? 1844 September 16,1957
[Gunther's INSIDE AFRICA claims he was younger,1851 or so]
Martha Graham 114 c. 180 December 1844 June 25,1959
John B. Salling 113 1 March 15,1846 March 16,1959
James Henry Brett Jr. 111 220 July 25,1849 February 10,1961
Baks Karnebeek 110 5 October 2,1849 October 7,1959
Yoshigiku Ito 110 114 August 3,1856 November 26,1966
Johanna Booyson 111 151 January 17,1857 June 16,1968
Marie Bernatkova 111 + October 22,1857 alive October 1968
Ada (Giddings) Rowe 111 339 February 6,1858 January 11,1970
Josefa Salas Mateo 112 228 July 14,1860 February 27,1973
Khasako Dzugayev 110 + August 7,1860 alive August 1970
Ada Sharp 110 39 April 6,1861 May 15,1971
Alice Stevenson 112 39 July 10,1861 August 18,1973
Elizabeth Watkins 110 234 March 10,1863 October 31,1973
Mito Umeta 112 65 March 27,1863 May 31,1975
Shigechiyo Izumi 120 237 June 29,1865 February 21,1986
Virginie Duhem 111 c. 210 August 1866 May 1,1978
Fannie Thomas 113 273 April 24,1867 January 22,1981
Rozwlia Mielzcarak 112 +?? 1868 January 7,1981
Augustine Teissier
(Sister Julia) 112 66 January 2,1869 March 9,1981
Jane Piercy 111 235 September 2,1869 May 3,1981
Gerada Hurenkamp-
Bosgoed 110 141 January 5,1870 May 25,1980
Lambrini Tsiatoura 110 +?? 1870 February 19,1981
Mamie Eva (Walter)
Keith 113 182 March 22,1873 September 20,1986
Anna Eliza (Davies)
Williams 114 208 June 2,1873 December 27,1987
Florence Knapp 114 93 October 10,1873 January 11,1988
Diminia Sette 110 +?? 1874 February 25,1985
Wilhelmine Sande 111 89 October 24,1874 January 21,1986
Carrie C. (Joyner)
White 116 88 November 18,1874 February 14,1991
Caroline Maud Mockridge 112 330 December 11,1874 November 6,1987
Jeanne Calment 122 164 February 21,1875 August 4,1997
Orpha Nussbaum 112 259 August 13,1875 March 30,1988
Christina Van Druten-
Hoogakker 111 322 January 20,1876 December 8,1987
Kate Begbie 111 238 January 9,1877 September 5,1988
Charlotte(Milburn)
Hughes 115 229 August 1,1877 March 17,1993
John Evans 112 295 August 19,1877 June 10,1990
[Guinness inexplicably miscounts as 292 days]
Ettie Mae (Thomas)
Greene 114 171 September 8,1877 February 26,1992
Jean Michael Reskens 111 241 May 11,1878 January 7,1990
Maria Corba 111 190+ August 15,1878 alive March 1990
Fanny Matilda Nystrom 111 90+ September 30,1878 1989
Margaret (Seward)
Skeete 115 192 October 27,1878 May 7,1994
Wilhelmina (Geringer)
Kott 115 60+? March 7,1879 alive early 1994
Domenico Minervo 111 11 May 10,1880 May 21,1991
Marie Louise Febronie
(Chasse) Meilleur 116 352+ August 29,1880 STILL ALIVE
Sarah Knauss 116 326+ September 24,1880 STILL ALIVE
[forgot her name!] 114 220+ May 3,1881 early 1996
Nellie (Hardman) Eby 110 331+ May 17,1881 alive April 13,1992
Hulda Johansson 111 350+ February 24,1882 alive February 1994
Christian Mortenson 115 + August 16,1882 STILL ALIVE
Lucy Askew 113 330+ Sept 1883 STILL ALIVE
Chelidonia Merosi 111 100+ October 11,1883 alive February 1995
Anne Kathrine
Matthiesen 110 60+ November 26,1884 alive February 1995
(Laura Hansine Svehaug of Norway,Nov 19 1886,and Irene Vanderhaegen of
Belgium,June 26 1887,have lately had their 110th birthdays certified by
their countries' authorities...Vanderhaegen would break her country's
Guinness record,Svehaug must pass Torp.There have doubtless been other
authenticated 110-year-old claims for countries with higher records).

RANKED BY AGE
Years Days Born Died
Jeanne Calment 122 164 February 21,1875 August 4,1997
Shigechiyo Izumi 120 237 June 29,1865 February 21,1986
Marie Louise Febronie
(Chasse) Meilleur 116 352+ August 29,1880 STILL ALIVE
Sarah Knauss 116 326+ September 24,1880 STILL ALIVE
Carrie C. (Joyner)
White 116 88 November 18,1874 February 14,1991
Charlotte(Milburn)
Hughes 115 229 August 1,1877 March 17,1993
Margaret (Seward)
Skeete 115 192 October 27,1878 May 7,1994
Wilhelmina (Geringer)
Kott 115 60+? March 7,1879 alive mid 1994
Christian Mortenson 115 + August 16,1882 STILL ALIVE
[forgot her name!] 114 220+ May 3,1881 early 1996
Anna Eliza (Davies)
Williams 114 208 June 2,1873 December 27,1987

Martha Graham 114 c. 180 December 1844 June 25,1959
Ettie Mae (Thomas)
Greene 114 171 September 8,1877 February 26,1992
Florence Knapp 114 93 October 10,1873 January 11,1988
Lucy Askew 113 330+ Sept 1883 STILL ALIVE
Fannie Thomas 113 273 April 24,1867 January 22,1981

Delina (Ecker) Filkins 113 214 May 4,1815 December 4,1928
Mamie Eva (Walter)
Keith 113 182 March 22,1873 September 20,1986
Pierre Joubert 113 124 July 15,1701 November 16,1814
John B. Salling 113 1 March 15,1846 March 16,1959
Birdie May (Musser)
Vogt 112 354 August 3,1876 July 23,1989
Caroline Maud Mockridge 112 330 December 11,1874 November 6,1987
John Evans 112 295 August 19,1877 June 10,1990
[Guinness inexplicably miscounts as 292 days]
Orpha Nussbaum 112 259 August 13,1875 March 30,1988
Josefa Salas Mateo 112 228 July 14,1860 February 27,1973
Augustine Teissier
(Sister Julia) 112 66 January 2,1869 March 9,1981
Mito Umeta 112 65 March 27,1863 May 31,1975
Maren Bolette Torp 112 61 December 21,1876 February 20,1989
Alice Stevenson 112 39 July 10,1861 August 18,1973
Rozwlia Mielzcarak 112 +?? 1868 January 7,1981
El Hadj Mohammed El
Mokri 112 +?? 1844 September 16,1957
[Gunther's INSIDE AFRICA claims he was younger,1851 or so]
Thomas Peters 111 354 April 6,1745 March 26,1857
Hulda Johansson 111 350+ February 24,1882 alive February 1994
Ada (Giddings) Rowe 111 339 February 6,1858 January 11,1970
Hon. Katherine Plunket 111 327 November 22,1820 October 14,1932
Christina Van Druten-
Hoogakker 111 322 January 20,1876 December 8,1987
Jean Michael Reskens 111 241 May 11,1878 January 7,1990
Kate Begbie 111 238 January 9,1877 September 5,1988
Jane Piercy 111 235 September 2,1869 May 3,1981
James Henry Brett Jr. 111 220 July 25,1849 February 10,1961
Virginie Duhem 111 c. 210 August 1866 May 1,1978
Maria Corba 111 190+ August 15,1878 alive March 1990
Johanna Booyson 111 151 January 17,1857 June 16,1968
Chelidonia Merosi 111 100+ October 11,1883 alive February 1995
Fanny Matilda Nystrom 111 90+ September 30,1878 1989
Wilhelmine Sande 111 89 October 24,1874 January 21,1986
Domenico Minervo 111 11 May 10,1880 May 21,1991
Marie Bernatkova 111 + October 22,1857 alive October 1968
Nellie (Hardman) Eby 110 331+ May 17,1881 alive April 13,1992
Margaret Ann (Harvey)
Neve 110 321 May 18,1792 April 4,1903
Elizabeth Watkins 110 234 March 10,1863 October 31,1973
Demetrius Philipovitch 110 150+ March 9,1818 alive August 1928
Gerada Hurenkamp-
Bosgoed 110 141 January 5,1870 May 25,1980
Yoshigiku Ito 110 114 August 3,1856 November 26,1966
Geert Adrians
Boomgaard 110 113 September 23,1788 February 3,1899
Anne Kathrine
Matthiesen 110 60+ November 26,1884 alive February 1995
Ada Sharp 110 39 April 6,1861 May 15,1971
Baks Karnebeek 110 5 October 2,1849 October 7,1959
Diminia Sette 110 +?? 1874 February 25,1985
Lambrini Tsiatoura 110 +?? 1870 February 19,1981
Khasako Dzugayev 110 + August 7,1860 alive August 1970


CHRONOLOGICAL OLDEST LIVING LISTED PERSONS
(Since 1959)
Years Days Born Died
Martha Graham 114 c. 180 December 1844 June 25,1959
James Henry Brett Jr. 111 220 July 25,1849 February 10,1961
Yoshigiku Ito 110 114 August 3,1856 November 26,1966
Johanna Booyson 111 151 January 17,1857 June 16,1968
Marie Bernatkova 111 + October 22,1857 alive October 1968
Ada (Giddings) Rowe 111 339 February 6,1858 January 11,1970
Josefa Salas Mateo 112 228 July 14,1860 February 27,1973
Alice Stevenson 112 39 July 10,1861 August 18,1973
Elizabeth Watkins 110 234 March 10,1863 October 31,1973
Mito Umeta 112 65 March 27,1863 May 31,1975
Shigechiyo Izumi 120 237 June 29,1865 February 21,1986
Mamie Eva (Walter)
Keith 113 182 March 22,1873 September 20,1986
Anna Eliza (Davies)
Williams 114 208 June 2,1873 December 27,1987
Florence Knapp 114 93 October 10,1873 January 11,1988
Carrie C. (Joyner)
White 116 88 November 18,1874 February 14,1991
Jeanne Calment 122 164 February 21,1875 August 4,1997
Marie Louise Febronie
(Chasse) Meilleur 116 352+ August 29,1880 STILL ALIVE

PROGRESSIVE LIST OF RECORDHOLDERS
(After eventual authentication,not as published initially)
Years Days Born Died
Pierre Joubert 113 124 July 15,1701 November 16,1814
Delina (Ecker) Filkins 113 214 May 4,1815 December 4,1928
Martha Graham 114 c. 180 December 1844 June 25,1959
Shigechiyo Izumi 120 237 June 29,1865 February 21,1986
Jeanne Calment 122 164 February 21,1875 August 4,1997

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