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that...@yahoo.com

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Jan 16, 2013, 6:08:03 PM1/16/13
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That 1970s episode of "Maude" featuring Conrad Bain and his identical twin brother Bonar presented a scenario in which Dr. Arthur Harmon (Conrad)reveals he has a mentally institutionalized twin. In sitcom tradition, the twin (Bonar) escapes and wreaks all sorts of havoc including taking liberties with Arthur's wife Vivienne (Rue McClanahan).

It's interesting that Bain's character hid the existence of his twin brother and that the primary obituaries I have read so far make no mention of Bonar Bain.

Hmm? Life imitating art?

Although I have never heard Bonar Bain's name pronounced aloud, I suspect it was properly pronounced "BAHN- er" as to rhyme with "honor" as was the preferred pronunciation for British statesman Andrew Bonar-Law. My conjecture is that Conrad's children might've chosen to leave Bonar out of the obit, whether he's alive or dead, so as to prevent radio morning "zoo mentality" hosts from having a field day by pronouncing it as "boner."

But even if it was properly pronounced "BOH- ner," keep in mind that Bonar Bain was born in 1923 back when the word "boner" either meant a careless mistake or an incredibly bad joke.
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Brad Ferguson

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Jan 17, 2013, 10:46:54 AM1/17/13
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In article <1p3gf89ngqf37a1pd...@4ax.com>, Terry del
Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:08:03 -0800 (PST), that...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> >That 1970s episode of "Maude" featuring Conrad Bain
> >and his identical twin brother Bonar
>
> Please, PLEASE tell me it was directed by Peter Bonerz.


I'm sorry, no ... but there was an actor named Dick DeCoit in the
supporting cast.

<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0644386/>
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Charlene

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Jan 17, 2013, 2:00:20 PM1/17/13
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On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:08:03 PM UTC-6, that...@yahoo.com wrote:

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> But even if it was properly pronounced "BOH- ner," keep in mind that Bonar Bain was born in 1923 back when the word "boner" either meant a careless mistake or an incredibly bad joke.

AFAIK it's pronounced Boh-nar, to rhyme with "go-car". Good old Scots name, popular among Scots-Canadians of the 19th and very early 20th century.

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Jan 17, 2013, 2:12:55 PM1/17/13
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On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:00:20 AM UTC-8, Charlene wrote:

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> AFAIK it's pronounced Boh-nar, to rhyme with "go-car". Good old Scots name, popular among Scots-Canadians of the 19th and very early 20th century.
>


I'm sure it is.

But I have to feel the pain for the lady named Gay Bonar. http://names.whitepages.com/Gay/Bonar

David Uri

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Jan 17, 2013, 7:46:48 PM1/17/13
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:00:20 -0800 (PST), Charlene
<charlene...@gmail.com> wrote:

>AFAIK it's pronounced Boh-nar, to rhyme with "go-car". Good old Scots name, popular among Scots-Canadians of the 19th and very early 20th century.

One of the best known Scots-Canadians was Andrew Bonar Law, who became
Prime Minister of Britain. I've only ever heard him referred to with
Bonar having a short o.

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shauna...@gmail.com

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Jan 20, 2013, 12:38:56 AM1/20/13
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As the grandaughter of Bonar Bain I was disturbed to come across this comment. He was an amazing man who passed on in February 2005. I will never forget that because my daughter was born just a few days before he died so we've always felt that she was born to carry his memory on in a special way.

shauna...@gmail.com

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Jan 20, 2013, 12:41:14 AM1/20/13
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On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:38:56 PM UTC-7, shauna...@gmail.com wrote:
> As the grandaughter of Bonar Bain I was disturbed to come across this comment. He was an amazing man who passed on in February 2005. I will never forget that because my daughter was born just a few days before he died so we've always felt that she was born to carry his memory on in a special way. I'm referring to the comment made by that...@yahoo.com btw

BobF

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Jan 20, 2013, 12:56:50 AM1/20/13
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:41:14 -0800 (PST), shauna...@gmail.com
shouted from the highest rooftop:

>On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:38:56 PM UTC-7, shauna...@gmail.com wrote:
>> As the grandaughter of Bonar Bain I was disturbed to come across this comment. He was an amazing man who passed on in February 2005. I will never forget that because my daughter was born just a few days before he died so we've always felt that she was born to carry his memory on in a special way. I'm referring to the comment made by that...@yahoo.com btw

I fail to see why you were "disturbed" by a legitimate comment about
how "Bonar" should be pronounced and the connotation should it be
pronounced "BOH- ner" . The comment didn't appear "flip" or
disrespectful in any way to me, so I'd be interested in knowing what
you found so disturbing and how it should be pronounced.

Thank you.



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Jan 20, 2013, 10:11:45 PM1/20/13
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David Uri <davidu...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:00:20 -0800 (PST), Charlene
> <charlene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>AFAIK it's pronounced Boh-nar, to rhyme with "go-car". Good old Scots name, popular among Scots-Canadians of the 19th and very early 20th century.
>
> One of the best known Scots-Canadians was Andrew Bonar Law, who became
> Prime Minister of Britain. I've only ever heard him referred to with
> Bonar having a short o.

As I've noted,
Bonar Law died AND Bonar Bain was born
in 1923.
I expect the younger was named for the elder.

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Louis Epstein

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Jan 20, 2013, 10:13:03 PM1/20/13
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shauna...@gmail.com wrote:
> As the grandaughter of Bonar Bain I was disturbed to come across this
> comment. He was an amazing man who passed on in February 2005. I will
> never forget that because my daughter was born just a few days before he
> died so we've always felt that she was born to carry his memory on in a
> special way.

Thank you for letting us know.
People out there have been assuming he's still alive.
(The Wikipedes,for instance).

> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:08:03 PM UTC-7, that...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> That 1970s episode of "Maude" featuring Conrad Bain and his identical twin brother Bonar presented a scenario in which Dr. Arthur Harmon (Conrad)reveals he has a mentally institutionalized twin. In sitcom tradition, the twin (Bonar) escapes and wreaks all sorts of havoc including taking liberties with Arthur's wife Vivienne (Rue McClanahan).
>>
>>
>>
>> It's interesting that Bain's character hid the existence of his twin brother and that the primary obituaries I have read so far make no mention of Bonar Bain.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm? Life imitating art?
>>
>>
>>
>> Although I have never heard Bonar Bain's name pronounced aloud, I suspect it was properly pronounced "BAHN- er" as to rhyme with "honor" as was the preferred pronunciation for British statesman Andrew Bonar-Law. My conjecture is that Conrad's children might've chosen to leave Bonar out of the obit, whether he's alive or dead, so as to prevent radio morning "zoo mentality" hosts from having a field day by pronouncing it as "boner."
>>
>
>>
>>
>> But even if it was properly pronounced "BOH- ner," keep in mind that Bonar Bain was born in 1923 back when the word "boner" either meant a careless mistake or an incredibly bad joke.

Diner

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Jan 21, 2013, 12:57:29 PM1/21/13
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On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:38:56 PM UTC-7, shauna...@gmail.com wrote:
> As the grandaughter of Bonar Bain I was disturbed to come across this comment. He was an amazing man who passed on in February 2005. I will never forget that because my daughter was born just a few days before he died so we've always felt that she was born to carry his memory on in a special way. I'm referring to the comment made by that...@yahoo.com btw


Like BobF, I'm puzzled by what you found disturbing or disrespectful about the comment.

But I'm also wondering why no one in the family - including Jennifer Bain, Conrad's daughter, who was apparently interviewed by the New York Times - has contacted the Times to correct this sentence in the Times obituary:

"Besides his daughter, he is survived by two sons, Mark and Kent, and a twin brother, Bonar."

Correcting that would set the record straight once and for all, would be a great tribute to your grandfather, and would end the speculation that triggered these threads in the first place.

-Tim

Jane Margaret Laight

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Jan 21, 2013, 1:10:47 PM1/21/13
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On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:08:03 PM UTC-5, that...@yahoo.com wrote:

Here's the obit:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50163043

Brad Ferguson

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Jan 21, 2013, 1:33:54 PM1/21/13
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In article <e5dd2676-596e-4310...@googlegroups.com>,
Interesting. I found that page days ago, but the first-line reference
to Conrad Bain was not there. His obit merely mentioned that "one
brother" survived him.

Thanks.

Diner

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Jan 21, 2013, 3:23:48 PM1/21/13
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On Monday, January 21, 2013 1:33:54 PM UTC-5, Brad Ferguson wrote:

> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50163043

> Interesting. I found that page days ago, but the first-line reference to Conrad Bain was not there. His obit merely mentioned that "one brother" survived him.
> Thanks.


Yes, and the fact that Conrad Bain's name was missing raised the question of whether there could possibly be two people named Bonar Bain, as unlikely as that may have been. So thanks from me too.

-Tim
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