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Styble

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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I was half-asleep when I heard a contestant on a quiz show (can't even recall
if it was "Jeopardy!" or "Win Ben Stein's Money") say this, but I BELIEVE he
was talking about William "Fred Mertz" Frawley when he said that he collapsed
and died on an L.A. street corner.

Is that true, and if so, does anyone know the intersection and, even better,
which of the four corners of said intersection that was?

Inquisitively,

JOKERMAN/Detroit

PSierut

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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According to an I LOVE LUCY book I have, William Frawley (who appeared for
five years on MY THREE SONS after playing Fred Mertz) died of a heart attack
one night as he walked down Hollywood Boulevard, on his way home from a movie.
No intersection noted, but it was near the Hollywood Knickerbocker Hotel. A
male nurse who accompanied him that evening (Frawley was suffering from
prostate cancer) dragged him into the hotel lobby to try an revive him. He was
pronounced dead at Hollywood Receiving Hospital. March 3, 1966. Frawley was
79.

The Rogmeister

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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I believe I've heard that the actress who played Gladys Kravitz on
"Bewitched" (the earlier, much better one) died on the same day.

Rogmeister

PSierut

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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>>>I believe I've heard that the actress who played Gladys Kravitz on
"Bewitched" (the earlier, much better one) died on the same day.

Rogmeister>>>

Hey, it pays to have a well-stocked home library. After reading your note, I
checked my 1965-1966 volume of Theatre World and you're right -- the obituary
for Alice Pearce states she also died on March 3, 1966. Strange coincidence
that two notable sitcom second bananas died on the same day.

Louis Epstein

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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PSierut (psi...@aol.com) wrote:
: >>>I believe I've heard that the actress who played Gladys Kravitz on

As strange as the movie and TV Henry Blakes dying from heart attacks
within 24 hours?

GCarras

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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>Subject: Re: William Frawley question
>From: l...@put.com (Louis Epstein)
>Date: Mon, Mar 23, 1998 17:12 EST
>Message-id: <EqALp...@news2.new-york.net>

>
>PSierut (psi...@aol.com) wrote:
>: >>>I believe I've heard that the actress who played Gladys Kravitz on
>: "Bewitched" (the earlier, much better one) died on the same day.
>:
>: Rogmeister>>>
>:
>: Hey, it pays to have a well-stocked home library. After reading your note,
>I
>: checked my 1965-1966 volume of Theatre World and you're right -- the
>obituary
>: for Alice Pearce states she also died on March 3, 1966. Strange
>coincidence

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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>Subject: Re: William Frawley question
>From: psi...@aol.com (PSierut)
>Date: Mon, Mar 23, 1998 09:30 EST
>Message-id: <199803231430...@ladder03.news.aol.com>

>
>According to an I LOVE LUCY book I have, William Frawley (who appeared for
>five years on MY THREE SONS after playing Fred Mertz) died of a heart attack
>one night as he walked down Hollywood Boulevard, on his way home from a
>movie.
>No intersection noted, but it was near the Hollywood Knickerbocker Hotel. A
>male nurse who accompanied him that evening (Frawley was suffering from
>prostate cancer) dragged him into the hotel lobby to try an revive him. He
>was
>pronounced dead at Hollywood Receiving Hospital. March 3, 1966. Frawley was

That was a sad time (although 26 years later wasa g doo ttime when Rodney
King,born around the time Fraswley kicked the old bucket,got beatr.)

gjw

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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PSierut wrote:
>
> According to an I LOVE LUCY book I have, William Frawley (who appeared for
> five years on MY THREE SONS after playing Fred Mertz) died of a heart attack
> one night as he walked down Hollywood Boulevard, on his way home from a movie.
> No intersection noted, but it was near the Hollywood Knickerbocker Hotel. A
> male nurse who accompanied him that evening (Frawley was suffering from
> prostate cancer) dragged him into the hotel lobby to try an revive him. He was
> pronounced dead at Hollywood Receiving Hospital. March 3, 1966. Frawley was
> 79.

That story is true. But it's unclear whether he died on Hollywood Blvd
or Ivar Avenue. The Knickerbocker Hotel is located just north of the
intersection of Ivar and Hollywood Blvd (a block west of Hollywood &
Vine). He is said to have died in front of the hotel.

Harry Houdini's wife held annual seances on the roof of the hotel for
years, trying to contact the ghost of her dead husband, and D.W.
Griffith (the director of "Birth of A Nation") dropped dead in the lobby
of the same hotel.

Corby Gilmore

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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PSierut (psi...@aol.com) writes:
>>>>I believe I've heard that the actress who played Gladys Kravitz on
> "Bewitched" (the earlier, much better one) died on the same day.
>
> Rogmeister>>>
>
> Hey, it pays to have a well-stocked home library. After reading your note, I
> checked my 1965-1966 volume of Theatre World and you're right -- the obituary
> for Alice Pearce states she also died on March 3, 1966. Strange coincidence

> that two notable sitcom second bananas died on the same day.

Interestingly enough, Alice Pearce won the 1966 Best Supporting
Actress-Comedy Emmy posthumously for her role on "Bewitched". Two years
later, in 1968, Marion Lorne won the same award for the same show, also
posthumously. Hmmm.............
--
Corby Gilmore
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" The Natural"

Bill & Dot Smith

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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> Interestingly enough, Alice Pearce won the 1966 Best Supporting
> Actress-Comedy Emmy posthumously for her role on "Bewitched". Two years
> later, in 1968, Marion Lorne won the same award for the same show, also
> posthumously. Hmmm.............
>

...and it was great when Elizabeth Montgomery got up to receive Ms. Lorne's award
and said "It would have been so much nicer if you could have seen fit to reward her
while she was still alive." A little paraphrasing, but not much.

Dot

>


Zachariah Love

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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GCarras wrote:

> That was a sad time (although 26 years later wasa g doo ttime when Rodney
> King,born around the time Fraswley kicked the old bucket,got beatr.)

That does it.

Stevie (or G or whatever your name is) I made a conscious decision
several months ago not to respond to any of your posts, but I can no
longer contain myself. I figured it was uncalled for and unfair for me
to ridicule someone who is clearly afflicted in some unfortunate way,
but the period of amnesty has ended with this particular post of yours.
I no longer care whether your complete inability to type, spell or
create meaningful sentences is due to some form of mental retardation,
or some physical disability which forces you to flail at your keyboard
with a mouthstick. Up until now, I had assumed (correctly, I still
believe) that there was no need to point out to you or anyone else how
inane, idiotic and imbecilic your burblings are. You're either a moron,
a drunk, or a victim of some terrible accident, and I no longer care
which. You have crossed the line. I can only turn a blind eye to so much
right-wing, racist, sexist (to say nothing of just plain wrong) drivel
before I reach my limit, and it has just happened.
I want you to know that for the last year, my friends and I have been
copying and saving as many of your posts as we could find, in
anticipation of the day when we discover that the collected posts of one
Stevie GCarras are nothing more or less than the most elaborate, genius
trolling of all time. We had planned (vaguely) to put up a website
devoted to your "work," with the somewhat guilty knowledge that you were
most likely someone to be pitied, and not a genius at all. Our hopes,
though ever-dwindling, were maintained for quite some time, and I'm
aware even now that you could still be pulling the world's leg; if
that's the case, then congratulations. You win. If, however, the more
likely scenario is true, and you're just some poor, wheelchair-bound
simpleton, then I am telling you now that you have overstayed your
welcome. I don't care if it offends you or everyone else in this
newsgroup for me to call you a retard. I've given up restraining myself
from reacting to your racist commentary, and I feel good about it.
Stevie, shut the fuck up. Once and for all, take your Spice Girls and
your animation voice-over worship, and your Arthur Godfrey and your John
Denver and your Bing Fucking Crosby and all the other characters in your
pathetic little 30-something-still-living-with-your-folks world and
shove them up your cerebral-palsied ass, 'cause I am sick of you. Find
another hobby. Take up drugs. Go see Dr. Jack. I don't care, just go
away.

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The Lee Atwater Invitational Dead Pool
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Brad Ferguson

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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Sounds like the kind of place where we should throw the first DeadCon.

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Louis Epstein

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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Brad Ferguson (thir...@fred.net) wrote:

What,can't the dead people run their own convention?

gjw

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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PSierut wrote:

>
> ...And while we're on the subject of Bewitched, it's odd how many of the cast
> members died fairly young: Elizabeth Montgomery, Dick York, Dick Sargeant,
> Agnes Moorehead (doubt she was even seventy when she died), Paul Lynde, Alice
> Pearce. I'm sure that compared to other sitcoms that were running
> concurrently, the death rate on Bewitched must be higher than the other
> programs.

Yes, it IS strange, especially when you consider that the casts of other
sitcoms from the same period (such as "I Dream of Jeannie") are more or
less intact. Yet virtually the entire cast of "Betwitched" is gone.

Speaking of "Betwitched" and surprises, I was surprised last week to see
Alice Ghostly, who played aunt Esmerelda on the show) pop up again,
alive and healthy, playing (what else?) a witch once again, on
"Sabrina".

PSierut

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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And it would have been nice if the Academy had honored Elizabeth Montgomery
while she was alive too. She received countless Emmy nominations for
Bewitched, as well as several for her TV movies and guest performances (Legend
of Lizzie Bordon, an episode of The Untouchables, a miniseries called, I think,
The New Land) yet consistently lost. Too bad she didn't receive at least one
Emmy during her career.

Thos1 art

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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>). He is said to have died in front of the hotel.
>: >
>: > Harry Houdini's wife held annual seances on the roof of the hotel for
>: > years, trying to contact the ghost of her dead husband, and D.W.
>: > Griffith (the director of "Birth of A Nation") dropped dead in the
>lobby
>: > of the same hotel.
>:
>: Sounds like the kind of place where we should throw the first DeadCon.
>
>

Okay, book me a room--just as long as it ain 't on the roof, in the lobby or at
the intersection!

"Welcome to the Hotel California.....You can check out anytime you, but you can
never leave...."
"Thank you, Goodnight and God Bless..."


ASchweitzer

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:35:10 -0800, gjw <g...@loop.com> wrote:

>PSierut wrote:
>
>>
>> ...And while we're on the subject of Bewitched, it's odd how many of the cast
>> members died fairly young: Elizabeth Montgomery, Dick York, Dick Sargeant,
>> Agnes Moorehead (doubt she was even seventy when she died), Paul Lynde, Alice
>> Pearce. I'm sure that compared to other sitcoms that were running
>> concurrently, the death rate on Bewitched must be higher than the other
>> programs.
>

>Yes, it IS strange, especially when you consider that the casts of other
>sitcoms from the same period (such as "I Dream of Jeannie") are more or
>less intact. Yet virtually the entire cast of "Betwitched" is gone.
>
>Speaking of "Betwitched" and surprises, I was surprised last week to see
>Alice Ghostly, who played aunt Esmerelda on the show) pop up again,
>alive and healthy, playing (what else?) a witch once again, on
>"Sabrina".

I just wanted to say that Richard Dreyfuss isn't dead yet.

R. Valverde

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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Speaking of William Frawley, how did he die?

Corby Gilmore

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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"R. Valverde" (valv...@keyway.net) writes:
> Speaking of William Frawley, how did he die?

William Frawley died of a massive heart attack while walking on
Hollywood Boulevard March 7th, 1966.

ASchweitzer

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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On 25 Mar 1998 06:04:52 GMT, "R. Valverde" <valv...@keyway.net>
wrote:

>Speaking of William Frawley, how did he die?

Heart attack.


SHJ -

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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R. Valverde wrote:
>
> Speaking of William Frawley, how did he die?

MAN! Did this querry run full circle or WHAT!!?!?!??!??

It started out with 'How did he die?' went for 30 - 40 posts, only to
have left track long enough for someone else to ask the above!

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PSierut

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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>>>>MAN! Did this querry run full circle or WHAT!!?!?!??!??

It started out with 'How did he die?' went for 30 - 40 posts, only to
have left track long enough for someone else to ask the above!>>>>

Yeah, but you must admit it moved in a very logical progression, and never
really got off the general topic of this board: death. We went from
discussing Frawley's death, to the same-day death of Alice Pearce of Bewitched,
to the large number of deaths on the Bewitched series, etc. Funny though, that
it ended up in exactly the same place it started! : )


Ann

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Zachariah Love wrote:

. That does it.

. Stevie (or G or whatever your name is) I made a conscious decision
. several months ago not to respond to any of your posts, but I can no
. longer contain myself. I figured it was uncalled for and unfair for me
. to ridicule someone who is clearly afflicted in some unfortunate way,
. but the period of amnesty has ended with this particular post of yours.
. I no longer care whether your complete inability to type, spell or
. create meaningful sentences is due to some form of mental retardation,
. or some physical disability which forces you to flail at your keyboard
. with a mouthstick. Up until now, I had assumed (correctly, I still
. believe) that there was no need to point out to you or anyone else how
. inane, idiotic and imbecilic your burblings are. You're either a moron,
. a drunk, or a victim of some terrible accident, and I no longer care
. which. You have crossed the line. I can only turn a blind eye to so much
. right-wing, racist, sexist (to say nothing of just plain wrong) drivel
. before I reach my limit, and it has just happened.
. I want you to know that for the last year, my friends and I have
.been
. copying and saving as many of your posts as we could find, in
. anticipation of the day when we discover that the collected posts of one
. Stevie GCarras are nothing more or less than the most elaborate, genius
. trolling of all time. We had planned (vaguely) to put up a website
. devoted to your "work," with the somewhat guilty knowledge that you were
. most likely someone to be pitied, and not a genius at all. Our hopes,
. though ever-dwindling, were maintained for quite some time, and I'm
. aware even now that you could still be pulling the world's leg; if
. that's the case, then congratulations. You win. If, however, the more
. likely scenario is true, and you're just some poor, wheelchair-bound
. simpleton, then I am telling you now that you have overstayed your
. welcome. I don't care if it offends you or everyone else in this
. newsgroup for me to call you a retard. I've given up restraining myself
. from reacting to your racist commentary, and I feel good about it.
. Stevie, shut the fuck up. Once and for all, take your Spice Girls and
. your animation voice-over worship, and your Arthur Godfrey and your John
. Denver and your Bing Fucking Crosby and all the other characters in your
. pathetic little 30-something-still-living-with-your-folks world and
. shove them up your cerebral-palsied ass, 'cause I am sick of you. Find
. another hobby. Take up drugs. Go see Dr. Jack. I don't care, just go
. away.
.
. Zachariah Love, Commissioner
. The Lee Atwater Invitational Dead Pool
. http://stiffs.com
.

Nice one, Zach...I'm sure you speak for most of us...

Ann
...& there she was....gone....


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