Accidental Deaths On Set
Del Stanley
or not it was real or simply required for the role. Coincidently,
I just saw a French movie titled "The Lovers on the Bridge". It was
released in France in 1971, and just made its way into the states.
One of the stars was Juliette Binoche. Anyway, the male character broke
his leg during filming. They incorporated his limp into the film by
having him run over by a car in the beginning of the film.
This question probably has been asked before, but I missed the thread
and apoligize, but I was wondering how many celebrities have been
killed or injured in the line of duty? I mean a direct injury and
not a subsequent "curse", or possible cancer causing agent being
on the set, or stage. I can think of only a few:
1) Vic Morrow and child actor killed while filming "Twilight Zone
The Movie". The last seconds were actually shown on the news
in Houston (and I admit I taped it).
2) John Hexum. He was on some U.S. tv series. Unaware of the dangers
of a blank gun, or starters pistol, he playfully placed the
gun to his temple, and fired. He suffered severe brain injury,
and his family pulled the plug.
3) Actress Unknown. In the movie "Dr. Zhivago", there was scene of
a woman running to catch a train. She safely placed a baby (doll?)
into some passengers outstretched arms. You then suddenly see
her fall. I understand this was REAL. The woman was crushed to
death as she fell under the train. The producers used the actual
shot. I've heard others say the woman fell, but survived although
she lost both legs. Anybody know? It is real eerie watching that
scene now.
3) Actor Unknown/Stuntman. He was in an action scene with Claude Van
Damme,
and suffered a fatal injury. VD was sued by the actor's family
I believe.
4) Bela Lugosi and Natalie Wood died making a film, though not actaully
on the set. I guess I can't include. By the way, someone usually
posts by now, "Is Bela Lugosi Still Dead?" query.
5) Curtis Mayfield, lead singer of the Impression. Badly injured on
stage while performing. I believe he can no longer walk becasue
of that injury. He may be in dire straits now.
6) Michael Jackson. Hair was set ablaze. It seems like a few rock
musicians have been electrocuted, I can't think of any though.
I know there are quite a few other cases.
EVARNER1
Brandon Lee died from a gunshot (If I remember right it was a blank cartridge)
while filming "The Crow".
Redd Foxx suffered a fatal heart attack while taping an episode of his comedy
series (can't remember the title of the show. It also starred Della Reese)
ED
Steven Celli
>
> There was a recent post re Walter Brennen's limp, and whether
> or not it was real or simply required for the role. Coincidently,
> I just saw a French movie titled "The Lovers on the Bridge". It was
> released in France in 1971, and just made its way into the states.
> One of the stars was Juliette Binoche. Anyway, the male character broke
> his leg during filming. They incorporated his limp into the film by
> having him run over by a car in the beginning of the film.
>
> and apoligize, but I was wondering how many celebrities have been
> killed or injured in the line of duty? I mean a direct injury and
> not a subsequent "curse", or possible cancer causing agent being
> on the set, or stage. I can think of only a few:
>
The "Zhivago" incident is true.The actual shot you see in the movie is
of the woman running to catch up with the train and she did lose both
her legs.They used a double later during editing to complete the scene.
It is detailed in the 30th Anniversary release of the video in a "Making
Of..." feature they have after the film.
Director David Lean chose to use the scene anyway despite a lot of
controversy....
--
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Steven Celli
sce...@swbell.net
Steven Celli
>
> A couple more that I can remember....
>
> Brandon Lee died from a gunshot (If I remember right it was a blank cartridge)
> while filming "The Crow".
>
> Redd Foxx suffered a fatal heart attack while taping an episode of his comedy
> series (can't remember the title of the show. It also starred Della Reese)
>
> ED
>
> >From: Del Stanley
> >and apoligize, but I was wondering how many celebrities have been
> >killed or injured in the line of duty? I mean a direct injury and
> >not a subsequent "curse", or possible cancer causing agent being
> >on the set, or stage. I can think of only a few:
> >
Don't know if this qualifies but I remember Jean Harlow died during the
filming of the movie "Saratoga" with Clark Gable.
Rather then reshoot the entire film,they used a double to complete it.
I haven't seen the movie in years but if you see it you can immediately
tell when the double took over(and it is a decent amount of the movie
and not just a scene or two)as they always show you the double shot from
behind and do no close-ups at all.
Guess they also found someone to dub in a Harlow-sounding voice although
maybe the double herself actually spoke the lines.
It's really strange to watch it though....
Volfie
>It's really strange to watch it though....
Take a look at that classic film, Plan 9 From Outer Space and see the "double"
for Bela L. He's about a foot taller, had to keep his face covered and has a
different hairline. Pretty funny to watch.
Volfie -> and he had to duck down to get outta the cyrpt!
gjw
You can find a lengthy, detailed list of celebrity deaths on my
website at http://www.seeing-stars.com/Died
Gary
Fata Morgana
>A couple more that I can remember....
>
>Brandon Lee died from a gunshot (If I remember right it was a blank cartridge)
>while filming "The Crow".
Now, that's funny. I was just watching "The Crow" 20 minutes ago as well as the final
interview with Brandon Lee, and I was wondering if the topic of accidental deaths on set
had been discussed here. I connect the devilish machine, retrieve the messages, and there
ya go !!!
Geeeezz, unplug the micros, will ya ? :-P
Cheers :-)
Fata Morgana
Louis Epstein
: A couple more that I can remember....
:
: Brandon Lee died from a gunshot (If I remember right it was a blank cartridge)
: while filming "The Crow".
I think it was an explosion?
: Redd Foxx suffered a fatal heart attack while taping an episode of his comedy
: series (can't remember the title of the show. It also starred Della Reese)
"The Royal Family".
: ED
: >
:
Louis Epstein
: Del Stanley wrote:
: >
: > and apoligize, but I was wondering how many celebrities have been
: > killed or injured in the line of duty? I mean a direct injury and
: > not a subsequent "curse", or possible cancer causing agent being
: > on the set, or stage. I can think of only a few:
: >
: > a woman running to catch a train. She safely placed a baby (doll?)
: > into some passengers outstretched arms. You then suddenly see
: > her fall. I understand this was REAL. The woman was crushed to
: > death as she fell under the train. The producers used the actual
: > shot. I've heard others say the woman fell, but survived although
: > she lost both legs. Anybody know? It is real eerie watching that
: > scene now.
: > I know there are quite a few other cases.
:
: The "Zhivago" incident is true.The actual shot you see in the movie is
: of the woman running to catch up with the train and she did lose both
: her legs.They used a double later during editing to complete the scene.
: It is detailed in the 30th Anniversary release of the video in a "Making
: Of..." feature they have after the film.
: Director David Lean chose to use the scene anyway despite a lot of
: controversy....
If injuries are counted...
recent coverage of a Tom Jones remake featured mention of a scene
where an actor(I forget who) was in a fight with Brian Blessed and
leaned the wrong way and was knocked unconscious.They rushed him to
the emergency room immediately,and had to use the take...it was the
best one they had,and he was in no shape to reshoot.Might be interesting
to compare a real knockout to a phony one...
Dean Schaefer
Louis Epstein wrote in message ...
>EVARNER1 (evar...@aol.com.....) wrote:
>: A couple more that I can remember....
>:
>: Brandon Lee died from a gunshot (If I remember right it was a blank
cartridge)
>: while filming "The Crow".
>
>I think it was an explosion?
No, There was something in the gun that flew out and killed Brandon Lee,
Some kind of piece of metal.) It was supposed to be a blank.
Deano
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>recent coverage of a Tom Jones remake featured mention of a scene
>where an actor(I forget who) was in a fight with Brian Blessed and
>leaned the wrong way and was knocked unconscious.They rushed him to
>the emergency room immediately,and had to use the take...it was the
>best one they had,and he was in no shape to reshoot.Might be interesting
>to compare a real knockout to a phony one...
>
Mpoconnor7
standing at the edge of the infield and stumbled into the path of the Chariots.
The other was stomped and caught underneath the horses for a ways, and when
the scene was over the actor who the stuntman was portraying (Stephen Boyd)
survived getting caught under the horses.
Amos
thought he was doing one of his "I'm comin' to join ya.." fake heart
attack routines and laughed.....until he didn't get up!
In article <19991026133706...@ng-fw1.aol.com>,
evar...@aol.com..... says...
>
>A couple more that I can remember....
>
>Brandon Lee died from a gunshot (If I remember right it was a blank
cartridge)
>while filming "The Crow".
>
>Redd Foxx suffered a fatal heart attack while taping an episode of his
comedy
>series (can't remember the title of the show. It also starred Della
Reese)
>
>ED
Steven Celli
> : > and apoligize, but I was wondering how many celebrities have been
> : > killed or injured in the line of duty? I mean a direct injury and
> : > not a subsequent "curse", or possible cancer causing agent being
> : > on the set, or stage. I can think of only a few:
> : > 3) Actress Unknown. In the movie "Dr. Zhivago", there was scene of
> : > a woman running to catch a train. She safely placed a baby (doll?)
> : > into some passengers outstretched arms. You then suddenly see
> : > her fall. I understand this was REAL. The woman was crushed to
> : > death as she fell under the train. The producers used the actual
> : > shot. I've heard others say the woman fell, but survived although
> : > she lost both legs. Anybody know? It is real eerie watching that
> : > scene now.
> : >
> : > I know there are quite a few other cases.
> :
> : The "Zhivago" incident is true.The actual shot you see in the movie is
> : of the woman running to catch up with the train and she did lose both
> : her legs.They used a double later during editing to complete the scene.
> : It is detailed in the 30th Anniversary release of the video in a "Making
> : Of..." feature they have after the film.
> : Director David Lean chose to use the scene anyway despite a lot of
> : controversy....
>
> recent coverage of a Tom Jones remake featured mention of a scene
> where an actor(I forget who) was in a fight with Brian Blessed and
> leaned the wrong way and was knocked unconscious.They rushed him to
> the emergency room immediately,and had to use the take...it was the
> best one they had,and he was in no shape to reshoot.Might be interesting
> to compare a real knockout to a phony one...
Along the same line of "accidental realism",in the "Zhivago" movie the
scene where Rod Steiger slaps(and hard!)Julie Christie wasn't in the
script.
Check out Julie's reaction next time you see the film!
And once again,director Lean left it in.
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>thought he was doing one of his "I'm comin' to join ya.." fake heart
>attack routines and laughed.....until he didn't get up!
>
>
This is what happened to Dick Shawn. He was onstage doing his stand up act (I
think) and he had a heart attack. Evryone in the audience thought it was just
part of the act and kept laughing--until he didn't get up. What a way to go,
with laughter ringing in your ears. I'm glad for him.
Corby Gilmore
Del Stanley (dgs...@earthlink.net) writes:
> There was a recent post re Walter Brennen's limp, and whether
> or not it was real or simply required for the role. Coincidently,
> I just saw a French movie titled "The Lovers on the Bridge". It was
> released in France in 1971, and just made its way into the states.
> One of the stars was Juliette Binoche. Anyway, the male character broke
> his leg during filming. They incorporated his limp into the film by
> having him run over by a car in the beginning of the film.
>
> and apoligize, but I was wondering how many celebrities have been
> killed or injured in the line of duty? I mean a direct injury and
> not a subsequent "curse", or possible cancer causing agent being
> on the set, or stage. I can think of only a few:
>
> stage while performing. I believe he can no longer walk becasue
> of that injury. He may be in dire straits now.
No, I doubt it. "Dire Straits" had broken up by the time Mayfield suffered
his accident, I believe.
--
Corby Gilmore
ai...@freenet.carleton.ca
" The Natural"
DESSCRIBE1
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Erich
J.D. Baldwin
Monarch of Menace <s2...@aol.combatSPAM> wrote:
> This is what happened to Dick Shawn. He was onstage doing his stand
> up act (I think) and he had a heart attack. Evryone in the audience
> thought it was just part of the act and kept laughing--until he
> didn't get up. What a way to go, with laughter ringing in your
> ears. I'm glad for him.
I seem to recall that the news accounts of Shawn's death said the
laughter went on for nearly ten minutes while Shawn lay there dying.
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Volfie
>laughter went on for nearly ten minutes while Shawn lay there dying.
Ten minutes laughing is a mighty loooong time. Try it. There would have been
more than one corpse laying around.
Volfie -> repeat this mantra: People exaggerate.
WingNut
slugged Lois (Phyllis Coates) and actually connected. Knocked her out, but
they left the shot in the show. Think the episode was "Night of Terror" for
when TvLand shows the series again next year.... Al
The Avocado Avenger
>1) Vic Morrow and child actor killed while filming "Twilight Zone
> The Movie". The last seconds were actually shown on the news
> in Houston (and I admit I taped it).
Two child actors.
>3) Actress Unknown. In the movie "Dr. Zhivago", there was scene of
> a woman running to catch a train. She safely placed a baby (doll?)
> into some passengers outstretched arms. You then suddenly see
> her fall. I understand this was REAL. The woman was crushed to
> death as she fell under the train. The producers used the actual
> shot. I've heard others say the woman fell, but survived although
> she lost both legs. Anybody know? It is real eerie watching that
> scene now.
This is very much an urban legend.
>3) Actor Unknown/Stuntman. He was in an action scene with Claude Van
>Damme,
> and suffered a fatal injury. VD was sued by the actor's family
> I believe.
The actor was actually blinded in an eye or suffered some other severe
eye injury because Van Damme allegedly wanted to make the scene "more
real". The court case was won by the injured man, if I remember right.
It's been a few years. But the guy was not dead. (The injury occured
during the movie "Cyborg" and the stunt actor played one of the thugs.)
Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * Life is a tale told by an idiot;
http://www.io.com/~stacia/ * Full of sound and fury,
There is no guacamole anywhere. * Signifying nothing.
The Avocado Avenger
>Del Stanley <dgs...@earthlink.net> writes:
>>3) Actress Unknown. In the movie "Dr. Zhivago", there was scene of
>> a woman running to catch a train. She safely placed a baby (doll?)
>> into some passengers outstretched arms. You then suddenly see
>> her fall. I understand this was REAL. The woman was crushed to
>> death as she fell under the train. The producers used the actual
>> shot. I've heard others say the woman fell, but survived although
>> she lost both legs. Anybody know? It is real eerie watching that
>> scene now.
> This is very much an urban legend.
It's bad form to follow up to your own post, but I found the URL for the
snopes.com site regarding this urban legend:
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/zhivago.htm
mack
DESSCRIBE1 <dessc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19991026175650...@ng-fn1.aol.com...
> Wasn't Roy Kinnear fatally thrown from a horse while shooting a "Three
> Musketeers" sequel?
>
> Erich
>
horse and the horse lost its footing, skidded and fell over on Kinnear,
crushing him. And as I recall, they got it on film....I don't think they
used it though.
Del Stanley
>
> Del Stanley (dgs...@earthlink.net) writes:
>
> > 5) Curtis Mayfield, lead singer of the Impression. Badly injured on
> > stage while performing. I believe he can no longer walk becasue
> > of that injury. He may be in dire straits now.
>
> No, I doubt it. "Dire Straits" had broken up by the time Mayfield suffered
> his accident, I believe.
Well at least he didn't end with the "Grateful Dead".
Del Stanley
>
> Take a look at that classic film, Plan 9 From Outer Space and see the "double"
> for Bela L. He's about a foot taller, had to keep his face covered and has a
> different hairline. Pretty funny to watch.
Yeah it was. I believe that guy was Ed Wood's dentist! Like Star Wars
I wonder if they will be a prequel of the previous 8 Plans (:>)
Steven Celli
But you corrected the story so that's OK!
Steven Celli
>
> > No, There was something in the gun that flew out and killed Brandon Lee,
> > Some kind of piece of metal.) It was supposed to be a blank.
> > Deano
>
> which is expelled when the cartridge fires, and can cause serious injury at
> close range.
Those of us who have spent numerous months(and many years in my
case)training with our weapons when we entered the service can attest to
the fact that even blanks can do serious damamge.
Any time we used our weapons in the field for training we were always
required to have blank adapters attached to the weapons and that
included M-60 machine guns,too.
Brad Ferguson
<vol...@aol.comPackQ1> wrote:
It was actually six minutes until someone went on stage to check on
Shawn, and Shawn's daughter was in the audience. Absolutely bizarre.
Brad Ferguson
Epstein <l...@put.com> wrote:
> If injuries are counted...
> recent coverage of a Tom Jones remake featured mention of a scene
> where an actor(I forget who) was in a fight with Brian Blessed and
> leaned the wrong way and was knocked unconscious.They rushed him to
> the emergency room immediately,and had to use the take...it was the
> best one they had,and he was in no shape to reshoot.Might be interesting
> to compare a real knockout to a phony one...
Phyllis Coates was knocked cold by a punch thrown by actor Frank
Richards in the ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN episode "A Night of Terror."
No one's mentioned the guy who got killed in the chariot race in
BEN-HUR. You see the horses running over him, and it looks _so real_
...
Yvonne DeCarlo's husband lost a leg in a train scene in HOW THE WEST
WAS WON.
Brad Ferguson
<dgs...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Volfie wrote:
> >
> > Take a look at that classic film, Plan 9 From Outer Space and see the
> > "double"
> > for Bela L. He's about a foot taller, had to keep his face covered and
> > has a
> > different hairline. Pretty funny to watch.
>
> Yeah it was. I believe that guy was Ed Wood's dentist!
The stand-in has also been reported to be Wood's wife's gynecologist.
One end or the other, I guess.
Just to correct the record, though, Lugosi did not die during the
filming of PLAN NINE. Wood was making another film called TOMB OF THE
VAMPIRE when Lugosi died, and it was Lugosi's footage from this one
that was incorporated into PLAN NINE two years later.
DESSCRIBE1
For another genuine injury that made it on-screen, I read (I believe it was in
the IMDB's "Trivia" listing for either the actress or the movie) that P.J.
Soles was actually knocked unconscious when they shot her death scene in
"Carrie," and that it was that footage that was used in the movie.
I've also read that the actress who played the wife/mother during the
"videotaped murder" sequence in "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer" was so
traumatized that she went into shock once the scene was over.
Erich
Mpoconnor7
doing a concert. According to his widow, who was at his side, "the last thing
he heard was applause."
GollyAngie
C.H.I.P.S.--remember when Eric Estrada crashed his motorcycle in a stunt and
almost died? I believe they used that footage on the show. In the show, he
was supposed to crash, and ended up really crashing, so they just used it.
Is that right?
Neal Murray
J.D. Baldwin
> >I seem to recall that the news accounts of Shawn's death said the
> >laughter went on for nearly ten minutes while Shawn lay there dying.
>
> Ten minutes laughing is a mighty loooong time. Try it. There would
> have been more than one corpse laying around.
>
> Volfie -> repeat this mantra: People exaggerate.
I don't deny it. Still, it's not as if this kind of thing would
provoke ten minutes of uproarious, gut-busting laughter.
The impression I got was more like titters, building to moderate
laughter, then dying down to a sort of "OK, joke's over" mood, then
building again, then dying down, and so on.
Given Shawn's reputation for "offbeat" (to put it mildly) antics, and
what I'd expect his audience to be like, I still find the report
entirely plausible.
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>slugged Lois (Phyllis Coates) and actually connected. Knocked her out, but
>they left the shot in the show. Think the episode was "Night of Terror" for
>when TvLand shows the series again next year.... Al
>
That may have been accidentally on purpose. She repudatley had a personality
that has been described by a word that ryhmes with witch. :-)
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>Yeah it was. I believe that guy was Ed Wood's dentist! Like Star Wars
>I wonder if they will be a prequel of the previous 8 Plans (:>)
Actually he was Kathy Wood's chiropractor.
ERIK L.
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David Meadows
>
> >I remember reading after the Redd Foxx incident, that most on the set
> >thought he was doing one of his "I'm comin' to join ya.." fake heart
> >attack routines and laughed.....until he didn't get up!
> >
> >
>
> think) and he had a heart attack. Evryone in the audience thought it was just
> part of the act and kept laughing--until he didn't get up.
Exactly the same thing with Brit comic Tommy Cooper.
Spoon jar jar, spoon jar jar!
D.M.
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> That also happened once of the old "Adventures of Superman" show. Some thug
> slugged Lois (Phyllis Coates) and actually connected. Knocked her out, but
> they left the shot in the show. Think the episode was "Night of Terror" for
> when TvLand shows the series again next year.... Al
This also happened in the film "Scrooged." Carol Kane (as the Ghost of Christmas
Present) whanged Bill Murray with a toaster...and connected with his chin. They
used that take. Why fake it when you got a real one in the can?
-Amanda
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>
That's what I always say when I'm on the crapper!
J.D. Baldwin
<thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote:
> No one's mentioned the guy who got killed in the chariot race in
> BEN-HUR. You see the horses running over him, and it looks _so real_
> ...
I can't tell from that (carefully worded?) statement whether you
believe the story, but the main reason no one's mentioned it is
because it's probably one of the more thoroughly debunked film urban
legends around. Stephen Boyd's stunt double was just fine after
that. He didn't really get run over.
Just to throw in a bit of alt.obituaries content, I'll note here that
Stephen Boyd is dead.
Now, Charlton Heston's double really *did* get flipped over the front
of his chariot, and clambered back aboard with nothing more than an
injury to his chin. That exciting sequence was kept in the final
film, and combined with a close-up of Heston struggling back into his
chariot, makes for a pretty realistic sequence.
Some guy died in the filming of the chariot race in a previous
(silent) version of "Ben-Hur." That story probably got conflated with
the realism of the shot in the 1950's version, and an urban legend was
born. (No death footage was used in the 1920's release of the
picture.)
> Yvonne DeCarlo's husband lost a leg in a train scene in HOW THE WEST
> WAS WON.
His name was Bob Morgan; he was George Peppard's (who also is dead)
stunt double on the picture. He didn't lose his leg in the "scene"
though, as the shooting of the scene itself had just finished. They
were moving the train out of the area, and Morgan decided to ride atop
the car full of logs. The logs were shifted by a device they'd built
for some special effect or another, and they knocked him under the
train when someone activated it, unaware that he was still aboard.
Or something like that.
He lost more than his leg. His face and spine were pretty screwed up
from that accident, but he lived and he walked. I wonder whether he's
still alive today. The IMDB is no help on this one; they've got some
serious errors where his entry is concerned.
King Daevid MacKenzie
the set during filmings:
1) on the set of the 1923(?) Italian remake of QUO VADIS?, a lion
attacked and partially ate the body of an extra.
2) in the 1928 MGM silent location epic THE TRAIL OF '98, a second unit
was filmed shooting the rapids at Cordova, Alaska. Partly because of
botched safety precautions, four stuntmen in the shot were killed, three
of whose bodies were never recovered from the gorge. Ironically, when
the footage was brought back to Culver City, it was considered too
unrealistic and not incorporated into the released picture.
3) Two extras drowned during the flood scene in NOAH'S ARK (1929).
4) Stuntman Fred Butterworth fell from a horse and impaled himself on
his sword in a mishap on the set of Michael Curtiz's 1936 version of THE
CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE.
5) In the 1948 film TARZAN AND THE MERMAID, there's a shot of stuntman
Angel Garcia taking a spectacular dive off the cliffs at Acapulco;
off-camera, a wave unexpectedly smashed Garcia against the rocks below,
killing him.
6) Fred Kennedy, William Holden's stunt double in 1959's THE HORSE
SOLDIERS, was crushed to death when a horse he was on slipped and fell
on him.
7) In THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL (1965), stuntman Bill Williams was supposed
to jump clear from a covered wagon he was driving just before it went
over a mountain ridge. For whatever reason, he didn't jump clear and
went over the ridge with the wagon.
8) Stunt aviator Paul Mantz tumbled his plane in a shot for 1966' THE
FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX; Mantz was killed, and co-stunter Bobby Rose
(who'd survived the TRAIL OF '98 mishap) was crippled.
..there was also a fatal mishap on the set of COMES A HORSEMAN, the
Jane Fonda-James Caan starrer of circa '77, the details of which I hope
someone else can fill us in on (that footage *was* incorporated into the
released film); and, of course, there's the on-camera demises of
silent-era stunt pilot/star Ormer Locklear and latter-day stunt legend
Dar Robinson...
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Fata Morgana
wrote:
>..I can think of several more instances of extras and stuntmen dying on
>the set during filmings:
Many thanks Daevid for these stories !
Cheers,
Fata Morgana
Del Stanley
>
> ..I can think of several more instances of extras and stuntmen dying on
> the set during filmings:
>
> was filmed shooting the rapids at Cordova, Alaska. Partly because of
> botched safety precautions, four stuntmen in the shot were killed, three
> of whose bodies were never recovered from the gorge. Ironically, when
> the footage was brought back to Culver City, it was considered too
> unrealistic and not incorporated into the released picture.
This is quite interesting. Growing up and seeing a lot of westerns and
movie violence, I thought I knew what a gun sounded like. After all, how
many
movies made in the U.S. can you see w/o gunfire? The first time I heard
a gun fired, it didn't sound "real". I had gotten to accustomed to
Hollywood sound effects. Sometimes on tv you will see witnesses to a
crime that involved gunfire say that "I heard this popping noise, I
didn't think it was a gun". Unfamiliar with guns like I am, I suspect
they knew only the Hollywood version. Hollywood obviously would not
use real guns, a) they are dangerous b) and some types may not sound
"real" enough.
Zachariah Love
>
> > >I seem to recall that the news accounts of Shawn's death said the
> > >laughter went on for nearly ten minutes while Shawn lay there dying.
> >
> > Ten minutes laughing is a mighty loooong time. Try it. There would have
> > been
> > more than one corpse laying around.
> >
> > Volfie -> repeat this mantra: People exaggerate.
>
> Shawn, and Shawn's daughter was in the audience. Absolutely bizarre.
Actually, not that bizarre. I once worked as an usher for a Dick Shawn
performance (the free show was pay enough), and, as was his custom then,
he spent the entire intermission (perhaps 15 or 20 minutes) lying on the
stage, on his back, motionless. I know this was his custom because my
primary function that night was to keep any idiots in the audience from
touching or talking to him. This guy was a great entertainer, and when
he was on, it was as though he was possessed. His performances in both
"The Producers" and "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" kill me every
time.
I'm sorry, what were we talking about?
Zachariah Love, Commissioner
The Lee Atwater Invitational Dead Pool
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Louis Epstein
: In article <381678...@earthlink.net>, Del Stanley
: <dgs...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:
: > Volfie wrote:
: > >
: > > Take a look at that classic film, Plan 9 From Outer Space and see the
: > > "double"
: > > for Bela L. He's about a foot taller, had to keep his face covered and
: > > has a
: > > different hairline. Pretty funny to watch.
: > Yeah it was. I believe that guy was Ed Wood's dentist!
:
:
: The stand-in has also been reported to be Wood's wife's gynecologist.
:
: Just to correct the record, though, Lugosi did not die during the
: filming of PLAN NINE. Wood was making another film called TOMB OF THE
: VAMPIRE when Lugosi died, and it was Lugosi's footage from this one
: that was incorporated into PLAN NINE two years later.
Wasn't Lugosi's last film THE BLACK SLEEP?
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>
Ahhh, that's what extras are for!
Volfie
>
>>3) Two extras drowned during the flood scene in NOAH'S ARK (1929).
s2dee added:
>Ahhh, that's what extras are for!
"Damn, camera three was too far back. THROW IN SOME MORE EXTRAS and let's try
it again!"
Volfie -> and here I thought being an extra was glamorous...
RWilson963
Mansfield's hoop skirt caught on fire from a cigarette, and she died from her
burns.
Scott Wilson
ApplCinamn
<< I was wondering how many celebrities have been killed or injured in the line
of duty? I mean a direct injury:>>
In "Way Down East", there's a segment where Lillian Gish's character is
supposed to be lying semi-conscious on an ice block in the river heading for
the falls. Her hand is in the freezing water the whole time; she suffered some
lasting damage as a result. Incidentally, Richard Barthelmess (sp?) falls
onscreen as he carries her to safety.
William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy both suffer tinnitis as a result of an
explosion while filming Star Trek. I'm not sure, but I think it may have been
during the scenes of the Genesis planet breaking up in The Search For Spock.
The Wizard Of Oz--there was Buddy Ebsen's allergic reaction to the Tin Man
makeup, plus Margaret Hamilton was burned during the scene where the Witch
disappears in a puff of smoke.
Jeffrey Hunter suffered headaches from an explosion on a movie set and,
apparently, these headaches played a part in his death months later. On a Star
Trek retrospective, Leonard Nimoy went so far as to say that, had Hunter stayed
with Star Trek, he wouldn't have been making that movie and might still be
alive.
During TNT's showing of "The Birds" the other night, Tippi Hedren said one of
the birds got her right near her eye.
Someone told this story on "This Is Your Life": Laurel & Hardy were supposed to
film a scene on a scaffold, when Stan expressed concern that the safety
platform 20 feet below them wasn't safe. Ollie tried to prove that it was so he
jumped off the scaffold. The story went that the platform slowed down his fall
but he went 20 feet down onto the platform, then another 20 down to the ground.
Also...a few injuries on the soaps:
Another World: About a year or two ago, Linda Dano and Tom Eplin were injured
during a fire scene. I believe Dano suffered smoke inhalation and Eplin broke
his foot.
One Life To Live: Fiona Hutchison's hair caught fire from a candle. Luckily,
her costar Nicholas Walker put her out before any serious harm was done.
General Hospital: John Reilly got some ribs broken during a fight scene on a
tram with Tristan Rogers.
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>>Ahhh, that's what extras are for!
>
>"Damn, camera three was too far back. THROW IN SOME MORE EXTRAS and let's try
>it again!"
Dammit! Sorry, back to first position. We'll have to go again. Some dolt forgot
to remove the lens cap!
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>apparently, these headaches played a part in his death months later. On a
>Star
>Trek retrospective, Leonard Nimoy went so far as to say that, had Hunter
>stayed
>with Star Trek, he wouldn't have been making that movie and might still be
>alive.
I was always curious how he had died. I thought he had a heart attack. Any more
details?
ApplCinamn
<<I was always curious how he had died. I thought he had a heart attack. Any
more
details?>>
IMDB offers the following:
"While filming 'Viva América!' in Spain, Hunter was injured in an on-set
explosion (which in the film kills his character) and began complaining of
dizziness and headaches. He was briefly hospitalized upon his return to Los
Angeles. Soon afterwards, he suffered a cerebral hemorrhage (stroke) while on a
stairway outside his home, and struck his head in the fall. He was found
unconscious an unknown length of time later, with a swelling above his eye. He
died during surgery to repair the skull fracture, at age 42."
Some also say he was intoxicated at the time. It sounds like his death was the
culmination of one bad circumstance after another: the injury from the
explosion, the hemorrhage, falling down the stairs, hitting his head in the
fall, the fact that nobody else was around at the time.
avpat
Monarch of Menace <s2...@aol.combatSPAM> wrote:
> I was always curious how he had died. I thought he had a heart attack. Any more
> details?
The movie data base says he died in 1969, in Los Angeles, from head
trauma.
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>died during surgery to repair the skull fracture, at age 42."
Uh oh! I'm 41 and people say I'm cracked. I guuess I don't have much time left.
tic tic tic BOOM!
King Daevid MacKenzie
favourite Saturday afternoon time-killers, WAKE ME WHEN IT'S OVER...
WingNut
Reeves aloft snapped while he was taking off and he fell about 12 feet to the
ground. He picked himself up, told the producers "Peter Pan flies with
wires, Superman doesn't !" After a few days off, the wires were replaced by
the modified breastplate configuration that he used for the remainder of the
series. BTW, the episode was "Ghost Wolf". Al
Chef Juke
SERIOUSLY injured) is a myth.
There is an article debunking this myth on the urban myths site at:
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/zhivago.htm
While the woman DID fall during the shooting, she was apparently only
banged up a bit.
-Chef Juke
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:05:42 -0700, Del Stanley <dgs...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>3) Actress Unknown. In the movie "Dr. Zhivago", there was scene of
> a woman running to catch a train. She safely placed a baby (doll?)
> into some passengers outstretched arms. You then suddenly see
> her fall. I understand this was REAL. The woman was crushed to
> death as she fell under the train. The producers used the actual
> shot. I've heard others say the woman fell, but survived although
> she lost both legs. Anybody know? It is real eerie watching that
> scene now.
>
>3) Actor Unknown/Stuntman. He was in an action scene with Claude Van
>Damme,
> and suffered a fatal injury. VD was sued by the actor's family
> I believe.
>
>4) Bela Lugosi and Natalie Wood died making a film, though not actaully
> on the set. I guess I can't include. By the way, someone usually
> posts by now, "Is Bela Lugosi Still Dead?" query.
>
>5) Curtis Mayfield, lead singer of the Impression. Badly injured on
> stage while performing. I believe he can no longer walk becasue
> of that injury. He may be in dire straits now.
>
>6) Michael Jackson. Hair was set ablaze. It seems like a few rock
> musicians have been electrocuted, I can't think of any though.
>
>I know there are quite a few other cases.
>
>
Brad Ferguson
<kidh...@aol.com> wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Tyrone Power (or was it Errol
> Flynn?).. anyways, I thought one of them suffered a fatal heart
> attack while filming a scene..
It was Tyrone Power, who died November 15, 1958 at the age of 44
(yikes!) while filming a sword fight for SOLOMON AND SHEBA. He was
replaced in the role by Yul Brynner.
KidHoney
Jim Beaver
ANT The Monarch of Menace wrote in message
<19991026225213...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...
>>That also happened once of the old "Adventures of Superman" show. Some
thug
>>slugged Lois (Phyllis Coates) and actually connected. Knocked her out,
but
>>they left the shot in the show. Think the episode was "Night of Terror"
for
>>when TvLand shows the series again next year.... Al
>>
>
personality
>that has been described by a word that ryhmes with witch. :-)
The only person I've ever heard of who doesn't (and didn't) love Phyllis
Coates was her successor on the show, Noel Neill. Phyllis is a terrific
lady and after years of research revolving around the show, I can attest
that she was beloved by cast and crew. Her portrayal of Lois Lane was
bitchier than Noel's, but that's a different matter. I hope some of the
people who read your post read this one.
Jim Beaver
Jim Beaver
King Daevid MacKenzie wrote in message
<29359-38...@storefull-147.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
.>6) Fred Kennedy, William Holden's stunt double in 1959's THE HORSE
>.SOLDIERS, was crushed to death when a horse he was on slipped and fell
>on him.
According to the autobiography of stuntman Chuck Roberson, Kennedy broke his
neck jumping free doing a horsefall, rather than being crushed by a falling
horse. Roberson goes on to describe how Kennedy's death devastated
director John Ford. Also, it's hard to imagine Kennedy doubling William
Holden. Kennedy was a compact little guy in his sixties at the time, and
Holden stood maybe a head taller.
>of course, there's the on-camera demises of
>silent-era stunt pilot/star Ormer Locklear and latter-day stunt legend
>Dar Robinson...
Nitpicking, I suppose, but Robinson didn't die on camera. The accident
occurred in a remote area of Arizona and Robinson, who had been impaled on a
branch, was loaded into the back of a station wagon which then raced to the
nearest hospital. Robinson died en route.
Jim Beaver
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>Coates was her successor on the show, Noel Neill. Phyllis is a terrific
>lady and after years of research revolving around the show, I can attest
>that she was beloved by cast and crew. Her portrayal of Lois Lane was
>bitchier than Noel's, but that's a different matter. I hope some of the
>people who read your post read this one.
>
>Jim Beaver
Jim, I stand corrected, I'm afraid that I, like others, have heard these tales
and believed them. I apologize for perpetuating this. I hope this helps put it
to rest.
Bill Warren
>. He's about a foot taller, had to keep his face covered and has a
>> different hairline. Pretty funny to watch.
>
>Yeah it was. I believe that guy was Ed Wood's dentist!
Chiropractor. And he was actually shorter than Lugosi, who was fairly tall.
Bill Warren
>The "Zhivago" incident is true....
>Director David Lean chose to use the scene anyway despite a lot of
>controversy.
In COMES A HORSEMAN, at the end, Jason Robard's character is accidentally
dragged to death by a horse. In filming the scene, the stunt double was killed
-- his head hit a post -- and the scene was used in the film, though it cuts
just before his head hits the post. This is standard practice in Hollywood,
and is usually done at the insistance of the other stunt men: the guy gave his
life for the film. If the shot is okay otherwise, USE IT -- though it is
highly unlikely for the >moment< of death to be used.
On a low-budget movie, THE SWORD AND THE SORCERER, a stunt man did a high
fall -- and lit beyond the inflated bag. He was killed. However, this
occurred the same week as the TWILIGHT ZONE accidents, so there was relatively
little press.
Bill Warren
America.
Bill Warren
violently than expected. This was BEFORE he started doing all those
building-climbing movies.
While doing a sword fight scene, Errol Flynn became over-excited (something
that evidently happened to him often during such scenes), and he broke
Christopher Lee's finger. It set crooked, and if you look closely, you can see
this in some films.
Bill Warren
>P.J.
>Soles was actually knocked unconscious when they shot her death scene in
>"Carrie," and that it was that footage that was used in the movie.
In ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN, Lou Costello deliberately placed his
head in front of a breakaway panel through which Glenn Strange, as the Monster,
plunged his fist. He slugged Lou hard -- just as Lou intended.
On ANGEL FACE, Otto Preminger insisted that Robert Mitchum slap Jean Simmons
very hard -- despite Mitchum's protests. The director then ordered several
retakes, and probably would have done more except that Mitchum finally picked
him up by the collar, growled that Jean had had enough, and walked off the set.
Bill Warren
>The only person I've ever heard of who doesn't (and didn't) love Phyllis
>Coates was her successor on the show, Noel Neill.
As near as I can tell, that dislike was largely because of what >Coates< said
about >Neill<.
Bill Warren
>No one's mentioned the guy who got killed in the chariot race in
>BEN-HUR. You see the horses running over him, and it looks _so real_
He wasn't killed.
Bill Warren
>
>Someone told this story on "This Is Your Life": Laurel & Hardy were supposed
>to
>film a scene on a scaffold, when Stan expressed concern that the safety
>platform 20 feet below them wasn't safe. Ollie tried to prove that it was so
>he
>jumped off the scaffold. The story went that the platform slowed down his
>fall
>but he went 20 feet down onto the platform, then another 20 down to the
>ground.
This reminds me of a story Jack Lemmon told in an interview. In BUDDY BUDDY,
there's a scene where they jump down a laundry chute. When returning from
lunch, Lemmon and Matthau were alone on the stage, and Matthau decided to test
the stunt, which was to be shot as the next scene.
The problem was that the padding hadn't been put under the chute, and
Matthau crashed onto the concrete floor.
Lemmon rushed up to him, calling out "Walter, Walter, how are you doing?"
Matthau groaned, "I make a living."
Bill Warren
>Now, Charlton Heston's double really *did* get flipped over the front
>of his chariot, and clambered back aboard with nothing more than an
>injury to his chin.
That was one of Yakima Canutt's sons, I think Tap.
>His name was Bob Morgan...
> I wonder whether he's
>still alive today.
No, he is not.
Bill Warren
>Wasn't Roy Kinnear fatally thrown from a horse while shooting a "Three
>Musketeers" sequel?
RETURN OF THE MUSKETEERS. Yes, that did happen.
Brad Ferguson
<bill...@aol.com.exx> wrote:
Thanks for the correction. Thanks also for these other fatal moments,
I guess you'd call them. Fascinating stuff, and I hadn't heard of most
of them.
Steven Celli
Along the same line:Jose Ferrer broke his wrist in(a jeep accident?)
before during filming of "The Caine Mutiny".
In the scene where he first appears he comes into the a JAG office where
he's to meet with those accused of the mutiny(Van Johnson,Fred
MacMurray,etc.)and he has a cast of his wrist.
In order to have some continuity,they wrote some lines into the script
where Johnson askes him what happened to his wrist and he explains,thus
alleviating the problem future generations would have as to why he was
wearing a cast in the movie.
--
Best Wishes,
Steven Celli
sce...@swbell.net
Steven Celli
>
> There's a scene in "The Dictator" where Charlie Chaplin breaks his finger on a
> white picket fence (I think the gate slammed on him). I seem to recall you can
> see him grimmace for a split second, but he finishes the scene like nothing
> happened. This cut remained in the final version.
That's interesting.I have the film and I'll check that scene out next
time I watch it....
ANT The Monarch of Menace
Amanda
Forgive my ignorance, but any relation to Greg Kinnear?
-Amanda
King Daevid MacKenzie
with Henry Silva in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE; the blow landed on a
breakaway table, as it was supposed to, but Sinatra went too long onto
the table's surface...
..there were also a couple of times Orson Welles injured himself on the
set of CITIZEN KANE -- he busted a shank in the scene at Susan
Aleander's apartment where Kane yells after a departing Boss Gettys
(Welles fell down the stairway during one take), and he injured his left
hand in the scene where Kane tears Susan's bedroom apart as she leaves
him (note how Welles suddenly pulls his hand out of camera view as he
comes across the snowglobe)...
..there was also one infamous moment on "The Jackie Gleason Show" in
1953 (1954?) when Gleason slipped on a rug in a Reginald van Gleason
sketch and broke his ankle on live national television...
Jim Beaver
King Daevid MacKenzie wrote in message <7005-381D9DFA-6@storefull-
..there were also a couple of times Orson Welles injured himself on the
set of CITIZEN KANE -- he busted a shank in the scene at Susan
Aleander's apartment where Kane yells after a departing Boss Gettys
(Welles fell down the stairway during one take), and he injured his left
hand in the scene where Kane tears Susan's bedroom apart as she leaves
him (note how Welles suddenly pulls his hand out of camera view as he
comes across the snowglobe)...
Same sort of thing happened to Laurence Olivier when sweeping everything off
a dressing table in SLEUTH. He cut his hand badly on breaking glass. You
can see him instantly jam his hand into his pocket to continue the scene.
Jim Beaver
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>1953 (1954?) when Gleason slipped on a rug in a Reginald van Gleason
>sketch and broke his ankle on live national television...
Yep, and Art Carney had to ad lib to fill in the rest of the time.
Also on the Honeymooner's epsiode of "Chef of the Future" near the end of their
live TV commercial Ralph stumbles into a wall and knocks it down destroying the
kitchen set. This was not intentional, but when a feller of Jackie's size
starts to go over there ain't no stopping him! <G>
Brad Ferguson
"It can do all of it!"
Gleason was also injured during a taping of his early '60s
comedy-variety show, which was subtitled THE AMERICAN SCENE MAGAZINE.
They were doing a riff on those Timex commercials that showed the
indestructibility of the company's watches. Gleason put on a watch,
got onto a bicycle at the top of a short ramp, and headed for a
breakaway brick wall. The front tire caught one of the rubber bricks
and Gleason went down hard, breaking his wrist. He walked toward the
camera, holding out the still-ticking watch as he was supposed to, but
he was clearly in pain, and you could see shadowy stagehands moving
into camera range to help him.
The ever-watchful CBS promotion department put an ad in all the papers
that Friday, the day before the broadcast: SEE JACKIE GLEASON BREAK HIS
ARM.
ANT The Monarch of Menace
>that Friday, the day before the broadcast: SEE JACKIE GLEASON BREAK HIS
>ARM.
>
Well this is a little off topic, but it relates to the Great One. Seems he and
his people were negotiation with CBS for his new contract. They were at a big
meeting with all the CBS big shots. Well at one point Jackie (being majorly
hung over) fell asleep. When he woke, he found that the meeting was over and
that CBS had given him everything he wanted. He askedhis managers "Why?" And he
was told that CBS figured that anyone who was calm enough to fall asleep in the
middle of a multi million dollar negotiation probably had an offer from another
network, and they didn't want to risk losing him!
PS He refused to fly and went everywhere on his private rail car. I heard
somewhere that this (or one of them anyway) burned around 5 years ago. Anyone
know more?
Sfd
attack on stage ... with many in the audience thinking it was part of his act.
Mrs.O'Really, How Nice!
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kelly
a cerebral hemorrage.
Lisa Davidson
Brewer from the show's debut in the mid-1960's until her death - which I
think was around 1990.
Rev Chuck
>
> Commedian Dick Shawn (loved him in the "Producers") suffered a fatal heart
> attack on stage ... with many in the audience thinking it was part of his act.
Herbert "Tiny Tim" Kaury died onstage while playing his uke. In a way, quite
a beautiful way to go.
kelly
I liked him, in a perverse sort of way... I hope he hit
that high note before his light went out.
sorry2hereit
>>
>> Herbert "Tiny Tim" Kaury died onstage while playing his uke. In a way, quite
>> a beautiful way to go.
>
> I liked him, in a perverse sort of way... I hope he hit
>that high note before his light went out.
Yeah -sounds like he went out doing what he was "good" at
best of luck to him
hope we all get that chance rather than a boring accident or some
other problem caused by someone else.
Brad Ferguson
<j.l.da...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hunter was married to the late Emily McLaughlin, who played Nurse Jessie
> Brewer from the show's debut in the mid-1960's until her death - which I
> think was around 1990.
Jeffrey Hunter died May 27, 1969. Here's an account of his death from
an anonymous author at the IMDb:
> While filming 'ĄViva América!' in Spain, Hunter was injured in an
> on-set explosion (which in the film kills his character) and began
> complaining of dizziness and headaches. He was briefly hospitalized
> upon his return to Los Angeles. Soon afterwards, he suffered a cerebral
> hemorrhage (stroke) while on a stairway outside his home, and struck
> his head in the fall. He was found unconscious an unknown length of
> time later, with a swelling above his eye. He died during surgery to
> repair the skull fracture, at age 42.
Hunter married Emily McLaughlin, on February 4, 1969, about four months
before his death. It was the third marriage for both. Emily played
Jesse Brewer from GENERAL HOSPITAL's debut in 1963 until 1990, when she
became too ill to continue. She never married again and died on April
26, 1991 at the age of 60.
BTW, Emily's other Star Trek connection is that she was married to
Robert Lansing in the 1950s. Lansing died on October 23, 1994.
FWIW, Emily's first husband, actor Kenneth Harlan, was 35 years her
senior. The old dog was married seven times; Emily may have been his
fourth wife, but the IMDb lost count. Harlan died on March 6, 1967 at
the age of 71, apparently worn to a frazzle.
rich...@my-deja.com
Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote:
> In article <19991029215540...@ng-fz1.aol.com>, KidHoney
> <kidh...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Tyrone Power (or was it
Errol
> > Flynn?).. anyways, I thought one of them suffered a fatal heart
> > attack while filming a scene..
>
> It was Tyrone Power, who died November 15, 1958 at the age of 44
> (yikes!) while filming a sword fight for SOLOMON AND SHEBA. He was
> replaced in the role by Yul Brynner.
Martha Mansfield was burned to death on the set of _The Warrens of
Virginia in 1923. She had just come off a scene where she wore a massive
hoop skirt with tons of crinolines, when one of the crew threw down a
smouldering cigarette. She went up like a torch and died from her burns
within hours. She was only 23 and was considered one of the foremost
beauties of her day. Of course during the days of candlelit theatres
this apparently was a quite common occurrence.
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