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wrenchjockey

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Aug 27, 2007, 5:49:05 PM8/27/07
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I run a Dead Pool, and I'm wondering what the parameters for
advertising such a game on this board would be. Is it something that
is discouraged? I would only be placing one post per week up, so it's
not like I would be constantly spamming this board with my links.

I welcome any and all comments.

Thanks!

David Carson

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Aug 27, 2007, 6:13:58 PM8/27/07
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I'm not sure whether your weekly post is a simple announcement like
"Hey, this is my dead pool game" repeated every seven days, or whether
it will be a weekly update of players and scores and such.

If it is just a simple announcement, then the most polite way to do
something like that is to put your announcement in a .sig file and
attach it to posts that you make when participating in this group's
discussions (such as I'm doing right now). No one would object to that
in the slightest.

If you have no plans to participate in the discussions here, or to
make any posts except to announce your game, then you would be
spamming us, even if it is only once a week. That isn't nice, and you
are liable to be killfiled by many, flamed by some, reported for abuse
by a few, and ignored by the most of the rest.

If your weekly post is more along the lines up an update, then the
subject line should be in the same format every week so that people
can easily killfile it if they aren't interested. And again, it would
depend on whether you otherwise participate in the discussions here,
or are only here to use us. People generally dislike being used.

David Carson
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Why do you seek the living among the dead? -- Luke 24:5
Who's Alive and Who's Dead
http://www.whosaliveandwhosdead.com

Yersinia Pestis

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Aug 27, 2007, 6:20:26 PM8/27/07
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Wrench,

My suggestion would be not to advertise, per se. This post here should
be the standard by which you would create any promotional posts for
your dead pool. You're a regular guy/gal, you're aware of the AO
community and you don't intend to spam it. Advertising is spam. Let
the community know what you do and simply invite people to play. When
posts start to look like macro-generated carbon copies of themselves
without saying anything new, you'll be on as many ignore lists as Ed
Conrad and his anti-evolutionary claptrap.

I also run a dead pool and I'm active in the AO Deadpool (which posts
quite frequently). My promos tend to appear in December, as do many of
the dead pool posts. It's not discouraged.

Have fun and post responsibly.

John McTague
www.youbettheirlife.com

tuvo...@go.com

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Aug 27, 2007, 7:14:49 PM8/27/07
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On Aug 27, 5:49 pm, wrenchjockey <wrenchjoc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I run a Dead Pool, and I'm wondering what the parameters for
> advertising such a game on this board would be.

I would second Yersinia's suggestion ... even a casual lurker to this
group would remember that he operates his own pool, but he has never,
to my knowledge "advertised" his pool outside of the a singular
December posting, done more as a reminder that people are running out
of time to submit than a 'HEY ALL YOU GHOULS" spamjob. Amelia follows
the same philosophy in publicizing the upcoming pools here on
alt.obits.

If you really want to run a pool that will last for more than a year,
submit a request to Louis Epstein to have your pool included in the
Great Dead Pool List that he maintains. It always come up as a higly
placed link in a Google or Yahoo search, so it should give you the
publicity that you desire.

For all of the deadpoolers that inhabit this newsgroup, deadpooling
itself is a niche area that exists on the periphery of this groups
intended purpose - the reporting of obituaries and the comparisons
drawn from the various writing styles employed by the obit authors
around the world. And, let's not forget baseball, always on-topic
around here.


wrenchjockey

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Aug 27, 2007, 8:03:49 PM8/27/07
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It is not my intention to spam this group, hence my OP. I recently
found this group during my research and preparations for my upcoming
pool. I am a long-time user in other newsgroups and forums and am
well aware of etiquette regarding spam and advertising. I figured the
best way to find out would be just to ask, instead of being "that guy"
who shows up simply to spam his link and then leave.

I appreciate the time you all have taken to pound out a response, and
I will certainly participate in this group, as it appears to be a
great informational tool and resource. If Mr. Carson doesn't mind, I'd
also like to put a link to his site on the Dead Pool page of my site.

Thanks again!

wrenchjockey

Alan Hope

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Aug 27, 2007, 9:09:35 PM8/27/07
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wrenchjockey goes:

>Thanks!

It's an alt. group. Do what you like. Nobody's in charge, though I
notice the usual suspects already starting to get their home-made
chains of office out of mothballs.

You've as much a right to post here as anyone. Go ahead and post
whatever you feel like posting. They'll all shit themselves, but
nobody will do anything.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com



Alan Hope

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Aug 27, 2007, 9:11:11 PM8/27/07
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David Carson goes:

>On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:49:05 -0000, wrenchjockey
><wrench...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>I run a Dead Pool, and I'm wondering what the parameters for
>>advertising such a game on this board would be. Is it something that
>>is discouraged? I would only be placing one post per week up, so it's
>>not like I would be constantly spamming this board with my links.

>>I welcome any and all comments.

>I'm not sure whether your weekly post is a simple announcement like
>"Hey, this is my dead pool game" repeated every seven days, or whether
>it will be a weekly update of players and scores and such.

It's none of your business, Carson. You don't run this group, and nor
does anyone else. The guy was nice enough to ask the question. I gave
him the only answer he needs to have.

So unpuff your little chest there, boy, and go back to sitting on a
tree-branch outside execution chambers.


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AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com



Yersinia Pestis

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Aug 27, 2007, 9:43:11 PM8/27/07
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I'm not against anyone's right to post what they want. I just think
that if Wrench wants to attract people to his website, it's best to
use a non-spamming approach, as it will keep his posts on fewer ignore
lists. Posting spam and hate and off-topic crap just to get a website
URL on the forum would be, I reckon, received negatively.

The usual suspects aren't trying to take over and David is not Der
Forumführer. Although I voted for someone else at the last secret AO
Usual Suspects meeting, the person in charge is a doing a fine job.

(pfft, bloggers!)

David Carson

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Aug 27, 2007, 10:31:36 PM8/27/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:11:11 +0200, Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com>
wrote:

>It's none of your business, Carson. You don't run this group, and nor
>does anyone else. The guy was nice enough to ask the question. I gave
>him the only answer he needs to have.
>
>So unpuff your little chest there, boy, and go back to sitting on a
>tree-branch outside execution chambers.

If no one runs this group, why are you telling me what to do?

David Carson

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Aug 27, 2007, 10:51:00 PM8/27/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:03:49 -0000, wrenchjockey <wrench...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I appreciate the time you all have taken to pound out a response, and
>I will certainly participate in this group, as it appears to be a
>great informational tool and resource. If Mr. Carson doesn't mind, I'd
>also like to put a link to his site on the Dead Pool page of my site.

I don't mind. Also consider these web sites maintained by two of our other
regulars:

http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com
http://dpsinfo.com/dps/

Wendy Chatley Green

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Aug 27, 2007, 11:30:49 PM8/27/07
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For some inexplicable reasons, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:

:On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:11:11 +0200, Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com>

Because Alan was elected Der Forumführer at the last secret AO
Usual Suspects meeting.

--
Wendy (Hi, Alan!) Chatley Green

J.D. Baldwin

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Aug 28, 2007, 12:20:36 AM8/28/07
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My advice would be: one announcement describing the game, its rules, a
website you can go to for more info, etc. ... followed by updates when
someone dies in a way that changes the scores and standings.
--
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_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Alan Hope

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Aug 28, 2007, 11:50:13 AM8/28/07
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David Carson goes:

Don't be stupid. I'm telling you to back off.

Somebody needs to put you little newsgroup commissars in your place.


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AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com



Alan Hope

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Aug 28, 2007, 11:55:27 AM8/28/07
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Wendy Chatley Green goes:

Hello, Wendy. That joke's only funny if people already know that for
years you maintained and posted the Posting Guidelines [sic] for
another newsgroup.

I've always been an advocate of people posting what they like, and
taking the consequences of other people doing likewise.


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AH
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David Carson

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Aug 28, 2007, 5:30:28 PM8/28/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:50:13 +0200, Yip-Yap, the noisy little would-be
guard dog <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote:

>Don't be stupid.

Actually, I wasn't being stupid; I was being subtle. The two modes are
often indistinguishable to a certain kind of person.

>I'm telling you to back off.
>
>Somebody needs to put you little newsgroup commissars in your place.

If you would desist in your quest of trying to save Usenet from People
Like Me for just a few minutes and take a few steps back, you would see
that the only person who has been strutting around here lately with a
sense of self-importance, barking out orders, is you.

But you won't.

David Carson

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Aug 28, 2007, 7:22:11 PM8/28/07
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:30:28 -0500, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:

>Actually, I wasn't being stupid; I was being subtle. The two modes are
>often indistinguishable to a certain kind of person.

By the same token, sometimes being witty and being snotty are
indistinguishable to a certain kind of person, namely me. Upon reflection,
I regret writing that bit. I can't take it back, but I can and do
apologize for it.

wrenchjockey

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Aug 28, 2007, 7:20:36 PM8/28/07
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Whoops!! Didn't mean to stir all this crap up.


Alan Hope

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Aug 29, 2007, 3:21:58 AM8/29/07
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David Carson goes:

>If you would desist in your quest of trying to save Usenet from People
>Like Me for just a few minutes and take a few steps back, you would see
>that the only person who has been strutting around here lately with a
>sense of self-importance, barking out orders, is you.

I told the guy to ignore the likes of you. How is that barking out
orders?

Project much?


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AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com



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