Porn star Anna Malle killed in car crash
deb...@comcast.net
By: Thomas J. Stanton, AVN
Posted: 10:00 am PST 1-26-2006
LAS VEGAS - Adult performer Anna Malle died in a car accident
Wednesday. She was 37. Malle was not driving the car, and the accident
was not alcohol-related.
The Las Vegas Review Journal reported that Malle suffered fatal
injuries in a crash on Route 160 just west of Rainbow Boulevard around
11:44 a.m.
The report went on to say that Malle was a passenger in a westbound
Dodge Stratus that appeared to be attempting a U-turn when it entered
the eastbound traffic lane and was broadsided by a pickup.
As was reported by Malle's Website Wednesday, "...with deep sadness I
have to announce that Anna has passed away today in an auto accident.
She will be missed by all and has always enjoyed her life to the
fullest. I'm sure that her memory will always be with her fans and
friends. For all of you please say a prayer to her and let her know
that she was loved."
Born and raised in Iowa, Malle got her start in the adult industry with
Tim Lake and Homegrown Video, in 1994. The black-haired starlet quickly
established herself as an intense, intelligent performer with exotic
looks, and went on to perform and direct in over 300 titles. Malle also
acted as an editor for Fox magazine for six years.
Malle is survived by her husband, performer Hank Armstrong, who was not
involved in the accident. Armstrong told AVN.com that Anna "loved
life. She was a kind and generous person. She was great to her fans and
overall, just a really great person."
Brad Ferguson
<deb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Malle Dies in Car Accident
> By: Thomas J. Stanton, AVN
> Posted: 10:00 am PST 1-26-2006
>
>
> LAS VEGAS - Adult performer Anna Malle died in a car accident
> Wednesday. She was 37. Malle was not driving the car, and the accident
> was not alcohol-related.
>
>
> The Las Vegas Review Journal reported that Malle suffered fatal
> injuries in a crash on Route 160 just west of Rainbow Boulevard around
> 11:44 a.m.
>
> The report went on to say that Malle was a passenger in a westbound
> Dodge Stratus that appeared to be attempting a U-turn when it entered
> the eastbound traffic lane and was broadsided by a pickup.
A search of the Las Vegas Review Journal's site turns up a mention of
an unidentified 37-yr-old woman who died in a crash on Rainbow Blvd. on
Wednesday, but does not mention Malle's name (or any other name):
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jan-26-Thu-2006/news/5547123.
html
It also says the driver survived.
Bill Schenley
> Wednesday. She was 37.
Photos: http://gfx.filmweb.pl/p/205561/po.78224.jpg
http://www.autogrammsammlung.de/Bilder/malle.JPG
Matthew Kruk
Ah ... I remember those intense exotic cheeks. Makes you want to grab life by
the horns:
deb...@comcast.net
they died? Linda Lovelace did, Marilyn Chambers & Jenna Jameson would,
there's not too many others!
Kittyn
If you are including males also, I would venture a guess that Ron
Jeremy will.
att...@aol.com
remember her?
Hal Horn
<deb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1138332807....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I was wonderin' how many porn stars would get mainstream coverage if
> they died? Linda Lovelace did, Marilyn Chambers & Jenna Jameson would,
> there's not too many others!
>
My best guesses in addition to the 3 you name:
Traci Lords, of course
Ginger Lynn (Allen)
Ron Jeremy
Harry Reems (his obscenity case in the 1970's was very well known, and he
was the doctor in Deep Throat)
Vanessa del Rio (most likely the best known outside of those already named)
HCH
J.D. Baldwin
Others mentioned the obvious cases of Traci Lords and Ron Jeremy. I
guess Malcolm McDowell, Helen Mirren, Peter O'Toole (ha ha ha) and
(dead) John Gielgud qualify as "porn stars" since their appearances in
"Caligula," though I suppose they aren't what you meant.
Isn't there one actress who made a whole bunch -- like, dozens -- of
those "Emmannuelle" movies? She might get a mention if she dies
young.
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those "Emmannuelle" movies? She might get a mention if she dies
Sylvia Krystel? She's 53 now, she'd better hurry if she's going to die
young! :)
R H Draney
J.D. may be thinking of Laura Gemser...pretty sure she's made more Emmanuelle
movies than Kristel did....
When Kristel goes, how much do you want to bet the obits don't mention her
involvement in the "Get Smart" movie "The Nude Bomb"?...r
Louis Epstein
: On 27 Jan 2006 16:11:19 -0800, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
: wrote:
:
:>J.D. may be thinking of Laura Gemser...pretty sure she's made more Emmanuelle
:>movies than Kristel did....
:
: Were any of those "real" porn or were they all teasy sub-softcore?
Not sure if there's a Moh's scale for the hardness of the cores of sexy
movies.
Would Corinne Clery come under the discussion here?
How about the female leads of Debbie Does Dallas
or The Devil in Miss Jones?(I don't recall the name of
the former,the latter was billed as Georgina Spelvin
which I understand is a Smitheesque default pseudonym
of sorts).
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Louis Epstein
: In article <1138307477.0...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2006/jan/27/012710399.html
Bill Schenley
> > sub-softcore?
> Not sure if there's a Moh's scale for the hardness of the
> cores of sexy movies.
Penetration v simulated penetration.
> Would Corinne Clery come under the discussion here?
> How about the female leads of Debbie Does Dallas
> or The Devil in Miss Jones?(I don't recall the name of
> the former ...
Bambi Woods. She was the subject of much discussion here ... earlier
this month.
Jenna Jameson, who is also mentioned in this thread, had Spelvin's
part in the remake of "The Devil in Miss Jones."
> ... the latter was billed as Georgina Spelvin
> which I understand is a Smitheesque default pseudonym
> of sorts).
George and *Georgette* Spelvin are the names actors might use if they
don't want a particular credit. Georgina Spelvin's birth name is
Dorothy May.
Here is a recent photo of Georgina Spelvin (approximately
70-years-old):
http://images.laweekly.com/ink/03/42/sm42town1.jpg
Kent
> How about the female leads of Debbie Does Dallas
> or The Devil in Miss Jones?(I don't recall the name of
> the former,the latter was billed as Georgina Spelvin
> which I understand is a Smitheesque default pseudonym
> of sorts).
It all depends on how broadly you want to define "mainstream" but I would
say my short answer would be "no". I think the really mainstream press
would only cover the biggie biggies - like Ron Jeremy and Jenna Jameson (and
Traci Lords). The others just don't have the everyday name recognition.
Put it this way, if you never watched a porn movie in your life there's
still a good chance you might have some idea who Ron Jeremy is. On the
other hand, I personally have never heard of Corinne Clery and although I'm
familiar with Bambi Woods' name I bet the vast majority of people aren't.
Kent
Desscribe
>IMDB says Anna Malle was in Joy Ride with Jim Beaver. Hey Jim, do you
>remember her?
The IMDB lists her appearance in that film as "Porn Actress on Cable
TV" (uncredited). I would assume that the filmmakers simply used a clip
from one of her other films to play on a TV set, and that she was never
actually on the set of "Joy Ride." (On the other hand, it's entirely
possible that the filmmakers did shoot some new footage for a
"fictitious" porn film.)
Erich
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >J.D. may be thinking of Laura Gemser...pretty sure she's made more
> >Emmanuelle movies than Kristel did....
>
I figured actors with careers built on the "teasy" stuff (which I
assume the Emmanuelle pictures all are, not that I'm ... um, an
expert, you understand) were fair game for the question. Which means
I should also have included Jason Williams. So far as I know, he's
had an unremarkable career in that industry, but he might get a
mainstream obit if anyone notices his identity as the actor who played
"Flesh Gordon."
Charlene
Louis Epstein wrote:
> Would Corinne Clery come under the discussion here?
> How about the female leads of Debbie Does Dallas
> or The Devil in Miss Jones?(I don't recall the name of
> the former,the latter was billed as Georgina Spelvin
> which I understand is a Smitheesque default pseudonym
> of sorts).
Her real name is Dorothy May, according to Wikipedia.
And check out the IMDB entry for George Spelvin, and who wrote
it...specifically the e-mail address. Smithee much, Mr. Beaver?
wd41
Louis Epstein
:> Would Corinne Clery come under the discussion here?
Well,I can't say I have much idea who Ron Jeremy is
(John Holmes[already dead],Harry Reems,Jamie Gillis yes).
I have certainly heard of Debbie Does Dallas but not of who
was in it."Crossover" films like Story of O (Clery played the
title role) and Alice in Wonderland (starred Kristine DeBell)
came to the attention of more people than those more strictly
targeted.A porn film needs to be very well known for people
outside of those who admit to seeing it to care about its stars.
How about Annette Haven or Jennifer Welles?
R H Draney
>
>Well,I can't say I have much idea who Ron Jeremy is
>(John Holmes[already dead],Harry Reems,Jamie Gillis yes).
>I have certainly heard of Debbie Does Dallas but not of who
>was in it."Crossover" films like Story of O (Clery played the
>title role) and Alice in Wonderland (starred Kristine DeBell)
>came to the attention of more people than those more strictly
>targeted.A porn film needs to be very well known for people
>outside of those who admit to seeing it to care about its stars.
>
>How about Annette Haven or Jennifer Welles?
How about Marilyn Chambers?...
(Still OT, I just spotted Dayle Haddon on a commercial earlier today...she first
came to my attention in a Playboy article about the 1976 film "Spermula", and
largely dropped out of sight shortly thereafter)...r
Brad Ferguson
<dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
I thought Dayle Haddon was better known for her Sports Illustrated
swimsuit stuff. She's been working pretty steadily as a 50-something
cosmetics model.
As for the thread, most of the people mentioned wouldn't get much if
any mention in the mainstream press. Some of the others would get
mentioned only if they died in some odd way -- murder, most likely
(heh), or some particularly gory accident. That kind of thing would
enhance the news value of the obit.
King Daevid MacKenzie
quotes R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> 'n sez:
>> (Still OT, I just spotted Dayle Haddon on a commercial earlier
>> today...she
>> first
>> came to my attention in a Playboy article about the 1976 film
>> "Spermula", and
>> largely dropped out of sight shortly thereafter)...r
>
>
> I thought Dayle Haddon was better known for her Sports Illustrated
> swimsuit stuff. She's been working pretty steadily as a 50-something
> cosmetics model.
...I would hardly describe a featured role in NORTH DALLAS FORTY in '78 as
consistent with "largely dropped out of sight" after '76...
> As for the thread, most of the people mentioned wouldn't get much if
> any mention in the mainstream press. Some of the others would get
> mentioned only if they died in some odd way -- murder, most likely
> (heh), or some particularly gory accident. That kind of thing would
> enhance the news value of the obit.
...I suspect Juli Ashton is now known by enough people through her Playboy
TV and Radio work, without having looked at her hardcore videos, that her
passing under any circumstances would be covered by at least some corners
of the "mainstream" media...
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Glitter Ninja
>Others mentioned the obvious cases of Traci Lords and Ron Jeremy. I
>guess Malcolm McDowell, Helen Mirren, Peter O'Toole (ha ha ha) and
>(dead) John Gielgud qualify as "porn stars" since their appearances in
>"Caligula," though I suppose they aren't what you meant.
They probably don't count because the sex scenes were added long after
the actors filmed their semi-straight roles. Not that it was a G rated
movie before the scenes were added, but they weren't involved in the
porno scenes at all.
>Isn't there one actress who made a whole bunch -- like, dozens -- of
>those "Emmannuelle" movies? She might get a mention if she dies
>young.
My browser has been wonky for weeks, so I can't verify on the IMDb,
but I think several people have played Emmanuelle in the movies.
David Duchovny was in soft-core near-porn in the "Red Shoe Diaries"
series. Dunno if he was part of the naughty bits or not.
Stacia
Brad Ferguson
Daevid MacKenzie <echoes...@charter.net> wrote:
> ...I suspect Juli Ashton is now known by enough people through her Playboy
> TV and Radio work, without having looked at her hardcore videos, that her
> passing under any circumstances would be covered by at least some corners
> of the "mainstream" media...
I've never heard of Juli Ashton, not that anyone should make a judgment
call based on that. I think that if she died in some odd way, it would
greatly enhance her chances of getting ink.
Going back a bit, I'd have thought that Hyapatia Lee was well-known
enough to draw some coverage at the time of her alleged death, yet I
remember nothing at all about it in the mainstream press.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Glitter Ninja <sta...@xmission.com> wrote:
> David Duchovny was in soft-core near-porn in the "Red Shoe
> Diaries" series. Dunno if he was part of the naughty bits or not.
In that category, I think the whole cast of "Sex and the City" would
qualify.
deb...@comcast.net
> Diaries" series. Dunno if he was part of the naughty bits or not.
Sylvester Stallone was in an actual porn movie in 1974 called "Party at
Kitty & Stud's". After he got famous, it was re-released as "The
Italian Stallion".
Glitter Ninja
>Sylvester Stallone was in an actual porn movie in 1974 called "Party at
>Kitty & Stud's". After he got famous, it was re-released as "The
>Italian Stallion".
Years ago I knew someone from an online game I played whose uncle was
a somewhat well-known character actor, someone you'd probably recognize
if you saw him. The actor's name escapes me at the moment, and the
uncle and family were somewhat embarassed about one role he played so I
probably wouldn't say his name anyway (but I recall his IMDb entry has
the embarassing role listed). He was a non-naked butler in a soft-core
straight to cable film which was on Cinemax quite a bit about 10 years
ago. I suspect there's lots of actors who have something like that on
their resumes, where they get associated with porn without actually
being a porn star, per se.
I can't imagine Stallone naked, but then again, he's had so much
plastic surgery that he doesn't look like he did in the 70s.
Stacia
Louis Epstein
She came to my attention in the Disney flick THE WORLD'S GREATEST ATHLETE,
but apparently switched from G-rated to X-rated film shortly thereafter.
Louis Epstein
:
:>> (Still OT, I just spotted Dayle Haddon on a commercial earlier
:>> today...she
:>> first
:>> came to my attention in a Playboy article about the 1976 film
:>> "Spermula", and
:>> largely dropped out of sight shortly thereafter)...r
:>
:>
:> I thought Dayle Haddon was better known for her Sports Illustrated
:> swimsuit stuff. She's been working pretty steadily as a 50-something
:> cosmetics model.
:
: ...I would hardly describe a featured role in NORTH DALLAS FORTY in '78 as
: consistent with "largely dropped out of sight" after '76...
:
:> As for the thread, most of the people mentioned wouldn't get much if
:> any mention in the mainstream press. Some of the others would get
:> mentioned only if they died in some odd way -- murder, most likely
:> (heh), or some particularly gory accident. That kind of thing would
:> enhance the news value of the obit.
:
: ...I suspect Juli Ashton is now known by enough people through her Playboy
: TV and Radio work, without having looked at her hardcore videos, that her
: passing under any circumstances would be covered by at least some corners
: of the "mainstream" media...
What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
deb...@comcast.net
TRAGIC PORN TRIO
HORRIFIC auto accidents are claiming the lives of one prominent porno
actress after another. The latest fatality came on Thursday when Anna
Malle, 38, died when her car skidded off a Las Vegas highway. The
"Sleeping Booty" star began starring in movies in 1992 after becoming
active in L.A.'s swingers community. "As wild as she was on camera, she
was as nice off-camera," director Roy Karch told fleshbot.com. "We are
devastated that she's gone." Porn starlets Britney Madison and Julie
Roberts also died in car crashes within the past year.
King Daevid MacKenzie
sez:
> Going back a bit, I'd have thought that Hyapatia Lee was well-known
> enough to draw some coverage at the time of her alleged death, yet I
> remember nothing at all about it in the mainstream press.
...well, that hoax was easily enough debunked; the only source claiming
Hyapatia Lee had died was her own web site. No official sources ever
confirmed it, and after a few weeks it was established that Lee had simply
wanted to sever all ties with the adult video business and concocted the
"death" hoax to try to goose sales of old stock through her website...
...of course, the suicides, especially if violent, get mainstream ink;
Shauna Grant got a PBS documentary after she put a bullet through her
head, and Savannah got E! and Showtime specials in the same manner...
...curiously, the AIDS-related death of Lisa deLeeuw only got press
attention after Marilyn Chambers, a frequent co-star, offhandedly
mentioned it in an interview somewhere; one website claims deLeeuw had
gotten HIV from a dentist's improperly sanitised equipment...
...BTW, I've always felt the term "adult video" was ironic in that the
narratives in those that bother using storylines is invariably childish at
best...
King Daevid MacKenzie
me 'n sez:
> : ...I suspect Juli Ashton is now known by enough people through her
> Playboy
> : TV and Radio work, without having looked at her hardcore videos, that
> her
> : passing under any circumstances would be covered by at least some
> corners
> : of the "mainstream" media...
>
> What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
...you can catch her Playboy TV and Radio work as a result of buying
certain electronic devices at Wal-Mart or Target, neither of which
regularly stock the buttplug...
King Daevid MacKenzie
quotes INVALID...@example.com.invalid (J.D. Baldwin) 'n sez:
>> Others mentioned the obvious cases of Traci Lords and Ron Jeremy. I
>> guess Malcolm McDowell, Helen Mirren, Peter O'Toole (ha ha ha) and
>> (dead) John Gielgud qualify as "porn stars" since their appearances in
>> "Caligula," though I suppose they aren't what you meant.
>
> They probably don't count because the sex scenes were added long after
> the actors filmed their semi-straight roles. Not that it was a G rated
> movie before the scenes were added, but they weren't involved in the
> porno scenes at all.
...in fact, McDowell complained long and loud about those hardcore scenes
as late as the early '90s. And, although I think some other point of
contention led Gore Vidal to walk off the movie while it was in
production, I think he did sue to have his published screenplay taken off
the market once he learned of the porn shots being inserted...
King Daevid MacKenzie
<INVALID...@example.com.invalid> quotes Glitter Ninja
<sta...@xmission.com> 'n sez:
>> David Duchovny was in soft-core near-porn in the "Red Shoe
>> Diaries" series. Dunno if he was part of the naughty bits or not.
>
> In that category, I think the whole cast of "Sex and the City" would
> qualify.
...if that's the case, so would Rob Lowe, Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee,
Tonya Harding, Jayne Kennedy, R. Kelly, Chuck Berry, The Go-Gos and any
other celeb who has had homemade sex videos of them turn up in public
distribution. (There's also one making the rounds allegedly of Linda Blair
from 20 years ago, although judging from the stills from it I've
encountered on the 'Net, I have my doubts that Blair is actually the woman
in it)...
...then you have performers who got at least part of their starts in '70s
and '80s softcore drive-in sex comedies, like David Hasselhoff (REVENGE OF
THE CHEERLEADERS, which I'm now 90% sure was intentionally shot as a
hardcore X but edited down to an R), Robert Carradine and James Gammon
(THE POM-POM GIRLS), Danny DeVito (THE VAN), Don Johnson and Bruno Kirby
(THE HARRAD EXPERIMENT), Dennis Christopher and Glynnis O'Connor
(CALIFORNIA DREAMING), and Debra Winger (SLUMBER PARTY '57). There's also
pretty much anything Pam Grier appeared in during the "Blaxploitation"
wave of the early-to-mid '70s. Of course, in recent years we've had two
actresses, Dana Plato and Cheryl "Rainbeaux" Smith, whose softcore works
were prominently noted in their obits...
Brad Ferguson
Daevid MacKenzie <echoes...@charter.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:22:16 -0600, Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net>
> sez:
>
> > Going back a bit, I'd have thought that Hyapatia Lee was well-known
> > enough to draw some coverage at the time of her alleged death, yet I
> > remember nothing at all about it in the mainstream press.
>
> ...well, that hoax was easily enough debunked; the only source claiming
> Hyapatia Lee had died was her own web site. No official sources ever
> confirmed it, and after a few weeks it was established that Lee had simply
> wanted to sever all ties with the adult video business and concocted the
> "death" hoax to try to goose sales of old stock through her website...
Ah. Hadn't heard about any of that; I just presumed her death was a
phony and ignored it from then on.
> ...of course, the suicides, especially if violent, get mainstream ink;
> Shauna Grant got a PBS documentary after she put a bullet through her
> head, and Savannah got E! and Showtime specials in the same manner...
Oh, sure. I usually see the Shauna Grant story offered up as a Dire
Warning. Mothers, don't let your daughters grow up to be porn stars.
Jeez, it even scans.
Bill Schenley
> > people through her Playboy TV and Radio work,
> > without having looked at her hardcore videos, that
> > her passing under any circumstances would be
> > covered by at least some corners of the "mainstream"
> > media...
> What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only one who is sort'a
creeped-out that Louis knows who endorses butt plugs?
I mean ... who knew such an endorsement deal was even possible?
And what kind of agent secures a butt plug deal for his/her client?
"Yeah, look, baby ... we had a choice between Ivory Snow, Revlon, Nike
and Acme Butt Plugs. I think this Acme Butt Plug thing is going to be
a real career enhancer."
Charlene
Bill Schenley wrote:
> > What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
>
> Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only one who is sort'a
> creeped-out that Louis knows who endorses butt plugs?
It's easily obtainable information. Hell, I knew that, and I've never
seen a butt plug in real life.
Who says the Internet doesn't educate?
wd41
King Daevid MacKenzie
quotes me bein' quoted 'n sez:
>> > ...I suspect Juli Ashton is now known by enough
>> > people through her Playboy TV and Radio work,
>> > without having looked at her hardcore videos, that
>> > her passing under any circumstances would be
>> > covered by at least some corners of the "mainstream"
>> > media...
>
>> What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
>
> Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only one who is sort'a
> creeped-out that Louis knows who endorses butt plugs?
...that did seem like a "Blue Oyster" moment, didn't it?...
> I mean ... who knew such an endorsement deal was even possible?
>
> And what kind of agent secures a butt plug deal for his/her client?
...in Ashton's case, said agent is Lucky Smith, who doubles as Ashton's
significant other when she goes home...
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Bill Schenley <stra...@ma.rr.com> wrote:
> > What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
>
> Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only one who is
> sort'a creeped-out that Louis knows who endorses butt plugs?
I'm creeped out on so many levels, but oddly enough the worst bit of
it is that he considers "buttplug" a compound word.
> I mean ... who knew such an endorsement deal was even possible?
>
> And what kind of agent secures a butt plug deal for his/her client?
>
> "Yeah, look, baby ... we had a choice between Ivory Snow, Revlon,
> Nike and Acme Butt Plugs. I think this Acme Butt Plug thing is
> going to be a real career enhancer."
Yeah, you'd sphincter agent would have known better.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, King Daevid MacKenzie
<echoes...@charter.net> wrote:
> ...in fact, McDowell complained long and loud about those hardcore
> scenes as late as the early '90s. And, although I think some other
> point of contention led Gore Vidal to walk off the movie while it
> was in production, I think he did sue to have his published
> screenplay taken off the market once he learned of the porn shots
> being inserted...
'Cause who could ever have guessed that a picture produced by Bob
Guccione would have turned out to be *pornographic*?
Richard Hertz
>> I mean ... who knew such an endorsement deal was even possible?
>
>
if not carefully planned these types of endorsements have been known to hurt
a career, in somes cases nearly rectum.
Glitter Ninja
>...of course, the suicides, especially if violent, get mainstream ink;
>Shauna Grant got a PBS documentary after she put a bullet through her
>head, and Savannah got E! and Showtime specials in the same manner...
Murders also get mainstream press. A lady who posed in Penthouse was
murdered by a boyfriend or husband in the 90s, as was Dorothy Stratten.
>...BTW, I've always felt the term "adult video" was ironic in that the
>narratives in those that bother using storylines is invariably childish at
>best...
Plot has no place in porn.
Stacia
R H Draney
>
>...then you have performers who got at least part of their starts in '70s
>(THE HARRAD EXPERIMENT)...
Out! Out of my head, disturbing image!...r
Matthew Kruk
Nope, not yet: A boy and his dog. HA!
danny burstein
She had good taste!
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King Daevid MacKenzie
quotes me 'n sez:
>> ...of course, the suicides, especially if violent, get mainstream ink;
>> Shauna Grant got a PBS documentary after she put a bullet through her
>> head, and Savannah got E! and Showtime specials in the same manner...
>
> Murders also get mainstream press. A lady who posed in Penthouse was
> murdered by a boyfriend or husband in the 90s, as was Dorothy Stratten.
...but Stratten didn't do hardcore, and I don't think what nude
photography for Playboy that she did do actually qualifies to be porn,
which was what we were discussing here. Of course, Penthouse went hardcore
about ten years ago or so, so the unnamed woman you cite there probably
would qualify...
Bill Schenley
> > Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only
> > one who is sort'a creeped-out that Louis knows who
> > endorses butt plugs?
> It's easily obtainable information. Hell, I knew that, and
> I've never seen a butt plug in real life.
Apparently. But I gotta' tell you (and I've thought about some pretty
weird shit) ... in 57 years ... I never once thought: Hey. I wonder
who the new Butt Plug Spokesperson is.
> Who says the Internet doesn't educate?
Yes. I now see that one can purchase the "Julie Ashton's Anal
Beginner's Kit." Not quite sure how I'll process that information ...
or if I can ...
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0009KPMHM.01-A2I5S9J8DQ6JM8._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Glitter Ninja
>...but Stratten didn't do hardcore, and I don't think what nude
>photography for Playboy that she did do actually qualifies to be porn,
>which was what we were discussing here. Of course, Penthouse went hardcore
>about ten years ago or so, so the unnamed woman you cite there probably
>would qualify...
I didn't mean hardcore, necessarily. I didn't realize you did or I
wouldn't have brought up the models.
The Penthouse model didn't have any hardcore photos. I know this
because I had the issue. (Thbpt.) I haven't had them for years and I
can't find her on a Google search, but I heard about her murder on some
entertainment show like "Entertainment Tonight" and recognized her from
the issue I had in a collection. There is a model listed on webpages as
being killed for knowing too much about Bill Clinton, but I don't know
if it's her. Plus, it's a whole other nutty conspiracy wackjob thread I
don't want to get into.
Stacia
Matthew Kruk
>
> > > > What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
>
> > > Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only
> > > one who is sort'a creeped-out that Louis knows who
> > > endorses butt plugs?
>
> > It's easily obtainable information. Hell, I knew that, and
> > I've never seen a butt plug in real life.
>
> Apparently. But I gotta' tell you (and I've thought about some pretty
> weird shit) ... in 57 years ... I never once thought: Hey. I wonder
> who the new Butt Plug Spokesperson is.
I don't know why, but I read the above and for some quirk, I got an image of
Olivia Newton-John singing "Let's get physical ..."
Brad Ferguson
<INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
> In the previous article, Bill Schenley <stra...@ma.rr.com> wrote:
> > > What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
> >
> > Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only one who is
> > sort'a creeped-out that Louis knows who endorses butt plugs?
>
> I'm creeped out on so many levels, but oddly enough the worst bit of
> it is that he considers "buttplug" a compound word.
It saves a line space.As you know,line spaces are the greatest evil
ever conceived by the human mind.
Brigid Nelson
wrote:
Then you're probably not ready for _Bend Over Boyfreind_. I'll just
say it's for heteros and leave it at that.
brigid
PirateJohn
Terry del Fuego wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:50:16 -0600, "King Daevid MacKenzie"
> <echoes...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> >...if that's the case, so would Rob Lowe, Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee,
> >Tonya Harding, Jayne Kennedy, R. Kelly, Chuck Berry, The Go-Gos and any
> >other celeb who has had homemade sex videos of them turn up in public
> >distribution. (There's also one making the rounds allegedly of Linda Blair
> > from 20 years ago, although judging from the stills from it I've
> >encountered on the 'Net, I have my doubts that Blair is actually the woman
> >in it)...
>
The Go-Gos? Surely you jest!
deb...@comcast.net
Nope, I've seen it- the Go Go's abuse & debase their male groupies.
It's not a pretty site!
Louis Epstein
You can't have good erotica without some combination of plot
and characterization.
: Stacia
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
:
:>> I mean ... who knew such an endorsement deal was even possible?
:>
:> Yeah, you'd sphincter agent would have known better.
:>
:
: if not carefully planned these types of endorsements have been known to hurt
: a career, in somes cases nearly rectum.
It would really lube a career's path down the skids if the endorsed
product split a colon into semicolons,I suppose.
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>Glitter Ninja <sta...@xmission.com> wrote:
>: "King Daevid MacKenzie" <echoes...@charter.net> writes:
>:
>:>...of course, the suicides, especially if violent, get mainstream ink;
>:>Shauna Grant got a PBS documentary after she put a bullet through her
>:>head, and Savannah got E! and Showtime specials in the same manner...
>:
>: Murders also get mainstream press. A lady who posed in Penthouse was
>: murdered by a boyfriend or husband in the 90s, as was Dorothy Stratten.
>:
>:>...BTW, I've always felt the term "adult video" was ironic in that the
>:>narratives in those that bother using storylines is invariably childish at
>:>best...
>:
>: Plot has no place in porn.
>
>You can't have good erotica without some combination of plot
>and characterization.
>
Poor attempts at plot and characterization ruin porn. So do sound
tracks.
You want to talk about erotica, as in "art"? I have never seen
anything on film or video that I would call high level erotica of an
truly artistic nature.. Still photography, sure, Helmut Newton, that
sort of stuff, but you can keep all that Japanese and European fluff
on film and the American, too. Most of it is way too pretentious to
erotica and too obtuse to be porn.
Boron
Brigid Nelson
wrote:
>Glitter Ninja <sta...@xmission.com> wrote:
>: "King Daevid MacKenzie" <echoes...@charter.net> writes:
>:
>:>...of course, the suicides, especially if violent, get mainstream ink;
>:>Shauna Grant got a PBS documentary after she put a bullet through her
>:>head, and Savannah got E! and Showtime specials in the same manner...
>:
>: Murders also get mainstream press. A lady who posed in Penthouse was
>: murdered by a boyfriend or husband in the 90s, as was Dorothy Stratten.
>:
>:>...BTW, I've always felt the term "adult video" was ironic in that the
>:>narratives in those that bother using storylines is invariably childish at
>:>best...
>:
>: Plot has no place in porn.
>
>You can't have good erotica without some combination of plot
>and characterization.
True, but we're talking about porn.
brigid
aka Bob
>> > > What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
>
>> > Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only
>> > one who is sort'a creeped-out that Louis knows who
>> > endorses butt plugs?
>
>> It's easily obtainable information. Hell, I knew that, and
>> I've never seen a butt plug in real life.
>
>Apparently. But I gotta' tell you (and I've thought about some pretty
>weird shit) ... in 57 years ... I never once thought: Hey. I wonder
>who the new Butt Plug Spokesperson is.
In my 65th year and I don't even know what a Butt Plug is. Nor have I
ever once wondered.
>> Who says the Internet doesn't educate?
>
>Yes. I now see that one can purchase the "Julie Ashton's Anal
>Beginner's Kit." Not quite sure how I'll process that information ...
>or if I can ...
>
>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0009KPMHM.01-A2I5S9J8DQ6JM8._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Tempted though I am, I'll settle for another 65 years without knowing.
"It's not that I'm afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens." - Woody Allen
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PirateJohn
client?
...in Ashton's case, said agent is Lucky Smith, who doubles as Ashton's
significant other when she goes home... >>
Fun's fun, and as someone else said one hates to be judgmental, but you
sort of have to wonder where the lines between agent, significant
other, and pimp cross.
Anyway, I hope she's a happy camper. But I do have to wonder about
Louis' detailed knowledge on the subject ;)
Bill Schenley
> that.
I wish you would have said a little more ... Then I wouldn't have had
to look it up:
"Do men really like penetration? You betcha!
Can a woman come while strapping it on for
her guy? Carol Queen can. You're along for the
ride as two straight couples watch educational
info on the ins and outs of harness usage ..."
What the hell happened to normal, regular old fucking ... You know,
with just a man and a woman ... and a hammer and a few nails ... and a
red rubber ball ...
"Harness usage!" Oh My God!
Glitter Ninja
They also got drunk one night and made a "how to" video about
masturbation. It was on VH1 "Behind the Music". Tasteful, yet
understated.
Stacia
Brigid Nelson
wrote:
>> Then you're probably not ready for _Bend Over
>> Boyfriend_. I'll just say it's for heteros and leave it at
>> that.
>
>I wish you would have said a little more ... Then I wouldn't have had
>to look it up:
>
>"Do men really like penetration? You betcha!
>Can a woman come while strapping it on for
>her guy? Carol Queen can. You're along for the
>ride as two straight couples watch educational
>info on the ins and outs of harness usage ..."
And once you looked it up... you had to share.
>What the hell happened to normal, regular old fucking ... You know,
>with just a man and a woman ... and a hammer and a few nails ... and a
>red rubber ball ...
>
>"Harness usage!" Oh My God!
Yeah well, different strokes I guess.
brigid
Brad Ferguson
<sta...@xmission.com> wrote:
The first vid you were talking about is actually fairly bizarre.
Belinda Carlisle, who appears to be coked to the gills, tries to get
another coked Go-Go (I think it was Kathy Valentine) to blow one of the
roadies, who's seated before her on a toilet. Kathy is unwilling to do
that, so instead Belinda "directs" a scene where the roadie whacks off
as Kathy stares at him without expression.
Jane Wiedlin was not present, so there's no socially redeeming value in
any of this at all.
R H Draney
>
>What the hell happened to normal, regular old fucking ... You know,
>with just a man and a woman ... and a hammer and a few nails ... and a
>red rubber ball ...
>
>"Harness usage!" Oh My God!
I'm just an old fashioned guy...what happens in the bedroom, as far as I'm
concerned, should remain a private matter between a man and a woman and a
goat....r
The Kentucky Wizard
Also a cowboy, his horse and the rodeo clown in the barrel.
© The Wiz ®
«¤»¥«¤»¥«¤»
The Kentucky Wizard
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:31:25 GMT, "Bill Schenley" <stra...@ma.rr.com>
> magnanimously proffered:
>
>>>>> What about her endorsed brand of buttplug?
>>
>>>> Not that I'm being judgmental ... but am I the only
>>>> one who is sort'a creeped-out that Louis knows who
>>>> endorses butt plugs?
>>
>>> It's easily obtainable information. Hell, I knew that, and
>>> I've never seen a butt plug in real life.
>>
>> Apparently. But I gotta' tell you (and I've thought about some
>> pretty weird shit) ... in 57 years ... I never once thought: Hey.
>> I wonder who the new Butt Plug Spokesperson is.
>
> In my 65th year and I don't even know what a Butt Plug is. Nor have I
> ever once wondered.
>
>>> Who says the Internet doesn't educate?
>>
>> Yes. I now see that one can purchase the "Julie Ashton's Anal
>> Beginner's Kit." Not quite sure how I'll process that information
>> ... or if I can ...
>>
>> http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0009KPMHM.01-A2I5S9J8DQ6JM8._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
>
> Tempted though I am, I'll settle for another 65 years without knowing.
>
Let me help you out, Bob. You remember that 'ugly pink thingy' I mentioned a
on here few days ago? Well, it's sort of something like that, but it's for a
different orifice, and definitely a much better body to work
with............
© The Wiz ®
«¤»¥«¤»¥«¤»
aka Bob
<kywi...@insightREMOVETHESECAPSbb.com> magnanimously proffered:
Thanks, Wiz. But I'm perfectly happy to remain ignorant of these
implements - regardless of the orifice or the body in which the
orifice resides.