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Doris Hartmann, 81, Phil Hartman's mother

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Allen Kirshner

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Apr 20, 2001, 7:45:52 AM4/20/01
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Taken from the CP Wire:


Doris Hartmann, mother of the late Saturday Night Live comedian Phil
Hartman, died in her sleep this past Sunday (April 15). She was 81.

Hartmann, according to family members, never recovered from the
double tragedy of the death of her son and daughter-in-law. Weeks after
their deaths, her husband passed away, as well.

In 1998, Brynn Omdahl shot her husband, Phil Hartman, before killing her
herself.


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Allen

The real SMDJ

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Apr 20, 2001, 9:08:20 AM4/20/01
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How very sad. I hope she is finally at peace and maybe even with Phil
and her husband.
What a terrible burden of grief for a wife and mother to have to bear.

Boron Elgar

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Apr 20, 2001, 9:56:41 AM4/20/01
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On 20 Apr 2001 11:45:52 GMT, be...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Allen
Kirshner) wrote:

What happened to the Hartmann children? As I recall, there were two
young ones. To suffer the loss of the parents under such horrible
circumstances, then a grandfather & now a grandmother....how sad.

Boron

asbest...@hotmail.com

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Apr 20, 2001, 10:12:00 AM4/20/01
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:56:41 GMT, Kalk...@bwu.edu (Boron Elgar)
wrote:

They were sent to a midwestern state to live with their aunt and
uncle... though I can't remember if it was maternal or paternal.

da boss.

The real SMDJ

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Apr 20, 2001, 10:55:59 AM4/20/01
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I believe the children are living with Brynne's sister. It was
mentioned in a report a few months back that they are doing pretty well.
Let's hope that's true. They carry a lot of heavy baggage for children
so young.

Amanda

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Apr 22, 2001, 11:05:05 AM4/22/01
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The real SMDJ wrote:

> How very sad. I hope she is finally at peace and maybe even with Phil
> and her husband.
> What a terrible burden of grief for a wife and mother to have to bear.
>

When you say "wife," I hope you're referring to Phil's mother. Because it was
Phil's wife, Brynn, who killed him and then herself. I don't usually believe
in hell, but I hope there is a special level of fire and pain reserved for the
torturing of Brynn's soul.

-Amanda

The real SMDJ

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Apr 22, 2001, 11:59:03 AM4/22/01
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Yes, of course I am referring to Phil's mother. Read what I wrote
again....

"maybe even with Phil and her husband. What a terrible burden of grief

for a wife and mother to bear"

EVARNER1

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Apr 28, 2001, 4:20:14 AM4/28/01
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>From: The Grim Sweeper

>> I believe the children are living with Brynne's sister.
>

>They're living with the psycho's sister? Gee, that's a brilliant idea.
>
>- TGS
>


What I thought was strange was that they buried Phil and Brynne side-by-side.
While I realize that may have been their wishes at one time, something tells me
Phil might have changed his mind during his last .001 second of life.

ED

William Cox

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Apr 28, 2001, 9:19:24 AM4/28/01
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>Subject: Re: Doris Hartmann, 81, Phil Hartman's mother
>From: evar...@aol.com (EVARNER1)
>Date: 4/28/2001 4:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010428042014...@ng-bd1.aol.com>

>
>
>What I thought was strange was that they buried Phil and Brynne side-by-side.
>
>While I realize that may have been their wishes at one time, something tells
>me
>Phil might have changed his mind during his last .001 second of life.
>
>ED

I thought Phil and Brynne Hartman were cremated and their ashes scattered at
sea.

Bill

Mack Twamley

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Apr 28, 2001, 12:42:11 PM4/28/01
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"The Grim Sweeper" <t...@invalid.edu> wrote in message
news:tgs-DCC8BC.0...@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <3AE04DCF...@sympatico.ca>,

> The real SMDJ <don....@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I believe the children are living with Brynne's sister.
>
> They're living with the psycho's sister? Gee, that's a brilliant idea.
>
> - TGS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Great example of guilt by association (or accident of birth). Do you also
think that all of Charles Manson's or Adolf Hitler's family should be taken
out and shot?
In your infinite wisdom, where do you think the children should be
placed...with foster parents about whom nothing is known, other than the
fact that they've applied to be foster parents?


Brad Ferguson

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Apr 29, 2001, 1:00:27 AM4/29/01
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In article <20010428091924...@ng-mp1.aol.com>, William Cox
<clinet...@aol.comnospamno> wrote:


Yes, but it was the same ocean.

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