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MLW
Aug 29, 2012, 11:23:24 PM8/29/12
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/arts/television/steve-franken-actor-in-dobie-gillis-dies-at-80.html?_r=1
Steve Franken, a character actor specializing in comedy who appeared in films with Peter Sellers, Jerry Lewis and others, but was best known for playing the wealthy and snobbish Chatsworth Osborne Jr. on the hit sitcom “The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis,” died on Friday in Los Angeles. He was 80.
The cause was cancer, his wife, Jean, said.
Mr. Franken’s television and film career lasted more than 50 years. He was a frequent guest on popular shows like “Bewitched” and “Love, American Style,” and also appeared on “Mission: Impossible,” “Seinfeld” and many other series.
He acted in films with a long list of stars, including Peter Sellers in “The Party” and “The Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu”; Mr. Lewis in “Which Way to the Front?” and “Hardly Working”; Marlon Brando and Jack Nicholson in “The Missouri Breaks”; and James Garner and Julie Andrews in “The Americanization of Emily.”
But Mr. Franken first gained widespread attention on “Dobie Gillis,” which ran from 1959 to 1963. His character, Chatsworth, was a boastful rich kid who nonetheless was friendly with Dobie (Dwayne Hickman), a grocer’s son, and his beatnik friend, Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver).
Stephen Robert Franken was born on May 27, 1932, in Queens. He graduated from Cornell University and began acting in New York City in plays like “Inherit the Wind,” the fictionalized account of the Scopes trial. He landed the Chatsworth role after going to Los Angeles to be in José Ferrer’s production of “Edwin Booth,” in which he played a young version of the title character.
In addition to his wife, Mr. Franken is survived by their daughter, Anne; two daughters from his marriage to Julia Carter, which ended in divorce, Emily Franken and Abigail Glass; and two grandchildren.
Steve Franken, a character actor specializing in comedy who appeared in films with Peter Sellers, Jerry Lewis and others, but was best known for playing the wealthy and snobbish Chatsworth Osborne Jr. on the hit sitcom “The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis,” died on Friday in Los Angeles. He was 80.
The cause was cancer, his wife, Jean, said.
Mr. Franken’s television and film career lasted more than 50 years. He was a frequent guest on popular shows like “Bewitched” and “Love, American Style,” and also appeared on “Mission: Impossible,” “Seinfeld” and many other series.
He acted in films with a long list of stars, including Peter Sellers in “The Party” and “The Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu”; Mr. Lewis in “Which Way to the Front?” and “Hardly Working”; Marlon Brando and Jack Nicholson in “The Missouri Breaks”; and James Garner and Julie Andrews in “The Americanization of Emily.”
But Mr. Franken first gained widespread attention on “Dobie Gillis,” which ran from 1959 to 1963. His character, Chatsworth, was a boastful rich kid who nonetheless was friendly with Dobie (Dwayne Hickman), a grocer’s son, and his beatnik friend, Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver).
Stephen Robert Franken was born on May 27, 1932, in Queens. He graduated from Cornell University and began acting in New York City in plays like “Inherit the Wind,” the fictionalized account of the Scopes trial. He landed the Chatsworth role after going to Los Angeles to be in José Ferrer’s production of “Edwin Booth,” in which he played a young version of the title character.
In addition to his wife, Mr. Franken is survived by their daughter, Anne; two daughters from his marriage to Julia Carter, which ended in divorce, Emily Franken and Abigail Glass; and two grandchildren.
Scott Brady
Aug 30, 2012, 12:04:10 AM8/30/12
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On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:23:24 PM UTC-5, MLW wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/arts/television/steve-franken-actor-in-dobie-gillis-dies-at-80.html?_r=1
> In addition to his wife, Mr. Franken is survived by their daughter, Anne; two daughters from his marriage to Julia Carter, which ended in divorce, Emily Franken and Abigail Glass; and two grandchildren.
And the second cousin of Senator Al Franken, which actually came up in the news a couple years ago:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-07-16-scotus-hearings-perry-mason_N.htm
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/arts/television/steve-franken-actor-in-dobie-gillis-dies-at-80.html?_r=1
> In addition to his wife, Mr. Franken is survived by their daughter, Anne; two daughters from his marriage to Julia Carter, which ended in divorce, Emily Franken and Abigail Glass; and two grandchildren.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-07-16-scotus-hearings-perry-mason_N.htm
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radioacti...@gmail.com
Aug 30, 2012, 12:17:21 AM8/30/12
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I always liked Franken's work, and often wondered why he remained so comparatively obscure, even for a so-called character actor.
And it never occurred to me that he might be even distantly related to Al Franken.
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
And it never occurred to me that he might be even distantly related to Al Franken.
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
Scott Brady
Aug 30, 2012, 12:30:36 AM8/30/12
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On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:17:21 PM UTC-5, (unknown) wrote:
> I always liked Franken's work, and often wondered why he remained so comparatively obscure, even for a so-called character actor.
He shows up a lot on Me-TV. I've seen him on "Kojak" and "Mary Tyler Moore," not to mention "Dobie Gillis." I hope they give him a tribute.
> I always liked Franken's work, and often wondered why he remained so comparatively obscure, even for a so-called character actor.
I've read that his appearances on "Dobie" were limited to about once every four episodes because the producers were afraid he'd take over the show.
R H Draney
Aug 30, 2012, 3:24:55 AM8/30/12
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Scott Brady filted:
Wasn't his character the replacement for Warren Beatty's?...not a new guy
playing the same person, but someone who served the same purpose in the plot,
like when William Demarest replaced William Frawley on "My Three Sons"?...r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
playing the same person, but someone who served the same purpose in the plot,
like when William Demarest replaced William Frawley on "My Three Sons"?...r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Brad Ferguson
Aug 30, 2012, 8:38:01 AM8/30/12
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In article <k1n4g...@drn.newsguy.com>, R H Draney
Yes. Warren Beatty played Milton Armitage. When Beatty left the show,
Franken came in to play Milton's cousin, Chatsworth Osborne Jr. Doris
Packer played the mother of both, as Clarice Armitage and then Clarice
Osborne.
Franken came in to play Milton's cousin, Chatsworth Osborne Jr. Doris
Packer played the mother of both, as Clarice Armitage and then Clarice
Osborne.
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Brad Ferguson
Aug 30, 2012, 8:58:06 AM8/30/12
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In article <eknu38hmudsuqfmsj...@4ax.com>, Terry del
Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:23:24 -0700 (PDT), MLW <mlwall...@gmail.com>
> quoted:
>
> >Steve Franken...
>
> Awww...I was just looking him up a couple weeks ago.
>
> > was best known for...
>
> ..."The Time Travelers"!
Eyeballs!
The pic of Steve Franken in the latest Deadpool Dirt is that shot of
him looking up from the eyeballs in The Time Travelers.
I respect the classics.
Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:23:24 -0700 (PDT), MLW <mlwall...@gmail.com>
> quoted:
>
> >Steve Franken...
>
> Awww...I was just looking him up a couple weeks ago.
>
> > was best known for...
>
> ..."The Time Travelers"!
Eyeballs!
The pic of Steve Franken in the latest Deadpool Dirt is that shot of
him looking up from the eyeballs in The Time Travelers.
I respect the classics.
R H Draney
Aug 30, 2012, 4:13:53 PM8/30/12
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Brad Ferguson filted:
Twin sisters, maybe, not bothering to explain why they both had the same first
name?...or were both Clarices the same person, marrying first one brother and
then the other?...(no, that doesn't work either, because her two husbands would
have had the same last name)....
This is a puzzle right up there with how the Clampetts, when they crossed over
to a guest arc on Petticoat Junction, never noticed how much Kate Bradley looked
like Pearl Bodine....r
name?...or were both Clarices the same person, marrying first one brother and
then the other?...(no, that doesn't work either, because her two husbands would
have had the same last name)....
This is a puzzle right up there with how the Clampetts, when they crossed over
to a guest arc on Petticoat Junction, never noticed how much Kate Bradley looked
like Pearl Bodine....r
Brad Ferguson
Aug 30, 2012, 5:26:43 PM8/30/12
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In article <k1ohi...@drn.newsguy.com>, R H Draney
Good thing, too, because then her secret identity would have been
exposed, leaving her unable to continue her war on crime.
exposed, leaving her unable to continue her war on crime.
R H Draney
Aug 30, 2012, 6:45:21 PM8/30/12
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Brad Ferguson filted:
"Disguised as a mild-mannered cave-housewife, she patrols the dark alleys and
shadowy side-streets of Bedrock, Hooterville and Bugtussle as:
FRUMPYWOMAN!"
Yeah, I should have been working for the networks back then....r
shadowy side-streets of Bedrock, Hooterville and Bugtussle as:
FRUMPYWOMAN!"
Yeah, I should have been working for the networks back then....r
radioacti...@gmail.com
Aug 30, 2012, 8:00:06 PM8/30/12
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> Yes. Warren Beatty played Milton Armitage. When Beatty left the show,
> Franken came in to play Milton's cousin, Chatsworth Osborne Jr. Doris
> Packer played the mother of both, as Clarice Armitage and then Clarice
> Osborne.
>
Thanks much for this one, Brad; I had no idea of the Armitage/Osborne connection!
> Franken came in to play Milton's cousin, Chatsworth Osborne Jr. Doris
> Packer played the mother of both, as Clarice Armitage and then Clarice
> Osborne.
>
As it happens, the Milton Armitage character has for several decades now had a special significance to me. While trying to win on Jeopardy! in 1984, I happened to hit my first Daily Double--I managed to find two of the three during my losing-cause appearance--in some category related to television (can't remember if the category was sitcom- or simply television-related), with the clue something to the effect of, "This future film star played Milton Armitage on 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis'.
Had Trebek's writers been fishing for Steve Franken, I'd have been able to respond immediately, I'm sure. But this one I had to think about, and fortunately, I thought accurately, with my coming up with "Who is Warren Beatty?" before the buzzer buzzed me into embarrassment. Actually, my embarrassment was merely delayed, since I lost in the Final Jeopardy! round.
Fortunately for me, the Jeopardy! archivists have yet to find that particular edition of the program; like quite a few other editions from the first season, my appearance remains unlisted in their master list on the Jeop! website. Actually, I'd like to think my VHS copy is the only extant recording of the show on the planet, else I fear it'll end up on YouTube soon.
On the other hand, my five-appearance champion's run on Dick Clark's Challengers from 1991 isn't on YouTube either, and I've resisted the urge to put it on there myself, in the interests of furthering the myth that I'm a modest fellow.
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
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Jazz Vulture
Aug 30, 2012, 11:40:06 PM8/30/12
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Wasn't it R H Draney who said...
"new" Becky about how they just "changed Darrens" on Bewitched
and figured that nobody would notice.
JnP
> This is a puzzle right up there with how the Clampetts, when they crossed over
> to a guest arc on Petticoat Junction, never noticed how much Kate Bradley looked
> like Pearl Bodine
Or the episode of Roseanne, when a complaint was made to the
> to a guest arc on Petticoat Junction, never noticed how much Kate Bradley looked
> like Pearl Bodine
"new" Becky about how they just "changed Darrens" on Bewitched
and figured that nobody would notice.
JnP
Scott Brady
Aug 30, 2012, 11:51:34 PM8/30/12
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On Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:14:08 PM UTC-5, R H Draney wrote:
> Brad Ferguson filted:
> >Yes. Warren Beatty played Milton Armitage. When Beatty left the show,
> >Franken came in to play Milton's cousin, Chatsworth Osborne Jr. Doris
> >Packer played the mother of both, as Clarice Armitage and then Clarice
> >Osborne.
> Twin sisters, maybe, not bothering to explain why they both had the same first
> name?...or were both Clarices the same person, marrying first one brother and
> then the other?...(no, that doesn't work either, because her two husbands
> would have had the same last name)....
"Cousin" was network-TVspeak for "bastard sibling," offered by way of introduction and then never spoken of again. Kinda the way Andy and Barney were "cousins."
> Brad Ferguson filted:
> >Yes. Warren Beatty played Milton Armitage. When Beatty left the show,
> >Franken came in to play Milton's cousin, Chatsworth Osborne Jr. Doris
> >Packer played the mother of both, as Clarice Armitage and then Clarice
> >Osborne.
> Twin sisters, maybe, not bothering to explain why they both had the same first
> name?...or were both Clarices the same person, marrying first one brother and
> then the other?...(no, that doesn't work either, because her two husbands
> would have had the same last name)....
R H Draney
Aug 31, 2012, 3:27:58 AM8/31/12
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Scott Brady filted:
I'm sure that if it had been important for more than a single joke, someone
would have spelled out exactly how Andy and Barney were related, just as there
was an explanation of sorts for why the family on "The Real McCoys" had two sons
both named Luke....
It's less clear, however, whether the intricate connection between Alan Brady
and Mel Cooley was the result of an error...dialogue exists in various episodes
to establish both that Alan was married to Mel's sister, and Mel to
Alan's...(this does happen, and I'm sure Dick Van Dyke was well aware that
Laurel and Hardy were shown in "Twice Two" married to one another's
sisters--sisters played by the actors themselves)....
Back to mysterious resemblances between supposedly unconnected characters, did
anyone at the 4077th ever twig to the fact that Colonel Potter looked just like
the general who had decided to go crazy while visiting them some time
earlier?...r
would have spelled out exactly how Andy and Barney were related, just as there
was an explanation of sorts for why the family on "The Real McCoys" had two sons
both named Luke....
It's less clear, however, whether the intricate connection between Alan Brady
and Mel Cooley was the result of an error...dialogue exists in various episodes
to establish both that Alan was married to Mel's sister, and Mel to
Alan's...(this does happen, and I'm sure Dick Van Dyke was well aware that
Laurel and Hardy were shown in "Twice Two" married to one another's
sisters--sisters played by the actors themselves)....
Back to mysterious resemblances between supposedly unconnected characters, did
anyone at the 4077th ever twig to the fact that Colonel Potter looked just like
the general who had decided to go crazy while visiting them some time
earlier?...r
Scott Brady
Aug 31, 2012, 4:24:24 AM8/31/12
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On Friday, August 31, 2012 2:28:13 AM UTC-5, R H Draney wrote:
> Back to mysterious resemblances between supposedly unconnected characters, did
> anyone at the 4077th ever twig to the fact that Colonel Potter looked just
> like the general who had decided to go crazy while visiting them some time
> earlier?...r
You had to go down that road. Get ready for endless examples of guest actors coming back as regulars in different roles.
> Back to mysterious resemblances between supposedly unconnected characters, did
> anyone at the 4077th ever twig to the fact that Colonel Potter looked just
> like the general who had decided to go crazy while visiting them some time
> earlier?...r
BeAStooge
Aug 31, 2012, 8:25:52 AM8/31/12
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The Clampetts never met Kate. Bea Benaderet left the series due to illness earlier in the season. That first crossover arc was produced after her departure; she died a couple weeks before they aired.
Bea's only 6th season PJ appearance was a voiceover with a stand-in double, in the episode where Betty Jo has the baby. Bea recorded her dialogue from home.
The Kate/Pearl similarity was explained, sort'of. It was mentioned that Kate's side of the family was distant relation to the Clampett/Bodine clans.
Bea's only 6th season PJ appearance was a voiceover with a stand-in double, in the episode where Betty Jo has the baby. Bea recorded her dialogue from home.
The Kate/Pearl similarity was explained, sort'of. It was mentioned that Kate's side of the family was distant relation to the Clampett/Bodine clans.
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R H Draney
Aug 31, 2012, 11:24:39 PM8/31/12
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News filted:
>
>"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:k1pp1...@drn.newsguy.com...
> They could do anything!
In "Twice Two", they played themselves and their wives/sisters...in "Brats",
they played themselves and their sons...in "Our Relations", they played
themselves and their "mistakenly-believed-lost-at-sea" twin brothers....
There's also one, whose title I can't remember, where a blood transfusion has
them acting like each other....r
>
>"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:k1pp1...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
>(this does happen, and I'm sure Dick Van Dyke was well aware that
>> Laurel and Hardy were shown in "Twice Two" married to one another's
>> sisters--sisters played by the actors themselves)....
>
> A cute short by those comedy greats.
>(this does happen, and I'm sure Dick Van Dyke was well aware that
>> Laurel and Hardy were shown in "Twice Two" married to one another's
>> sisters--sisters played by the actors themselves)....
>
> They could do anything!
In "Twice Two", they played themselves and their wives/sisters...in "Brats",
they played themselves and their sons...in "Our Relations", they played
themselves and their "mistakenly-believed-lost-at-sea" twin brothers....
There's also one, whose title I can't remember, where a blood transfusion has
them acting like each other....r
Scott Brady
Sep 1, 2012, 11:40:24 AM9/1/12
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> And the second cousin of Senator Al Franken, which actually came up in the news a couple years ago:
> http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-07-16-scotus-hearings-perry-mason_N.htm
By the way, can you imagine what a Republican would be called if they referenced "Perry Mason"--or, God forbid, "Twilight"--during a Supreme Court confirmation hearing?
> http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-07-16-scotus-hearings-perry-mason_N.htm
If they were Democrats, they'd be called "Minnesota's Senate delegation."
http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1006/kagan_is_not_into_twilight.html
Brad Ferguson
Sep 1, 2012, 12:06:06 PM9/1/12
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In article <be229d72-f4fa-4412...@googlegroups.com>,
In re Al Franken, he was referencing a comment by Sonia Sotomayor,
who'd said she'd been inspired to become a lawyer in part by watching
Perry Mason when she was a girl. I'm not sure how or why Franken
should be blamed for that.
The Twilight thing -- really, who cares? First I've heard of it, and
it happened more than two years ago. Now if she'd said it while
tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
who'd said she'd been inspired to become a lawyer in part by watching
Perry Mason when she was a girl. I'm not sure how or why Franken
should be blamed for that.
The Twilight thing -- really, who cares? First I've heard of it, and
it happened more than two years ago. Now if she'd said it while
tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
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Scott Brady
Sep 1, 2012, 1:03:26 PM9/1/12
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On Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, Brad Ferguson wrote:
> In re Al Franken, he was referencing a comment by Sonia Sotomayor,
> who'd said she'd been inspired to become a lawyer in part by watching
> Perry Mason when she was a girl. I'm not sure how or why Franken
> should be blamed for that.
Proving my point, and that the same standard applies to Democratic Supreme Court nominees.
> In re Al Franken, he was referencing a comment by Sonia Sotomayor,
> who'd said she'd been inspired to become a lawyer in part by watching
> Perry Mason when she was a girl. I'm not sure how or why Franken
> should be blamed for that.
> The Twilight thing -- really, who cares? First I've heard of it, and
> it happened more than two years ago. Now if she'd said it while
> tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
Now, if she had said it while her live-in girlfriend was running a prostitution ring out of her home, you might have a story ... nah!
Scott Brady
Sep 1, 2012, 4:20:03 PM9/1/12
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> By the way, can you imagine what a Republican would be called if they
> referenced "Perry Mason"--or, God forbid, "Twilight"--during a Supreme Court
> confirmation hearing?
And now, thanks to the rigorous oversight of the party that doesn't want the government controlling what you can do with your body, the government controls health care.
> referenced "Perry Mason"--or, God forbid, "Twilight"--during a Supreme Court
> confirmation hearing?
Brad Ferguson
Sep 1, 2012, 5:04:26 PM9/1/12
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In article <64fbccfa-e971-4053...@googlegroups.com>,
understand that you're saying it would have been blown out of
proportion if this had involved Republicans. It's hard to argue that
something that never happened wouldn't happen, so I won't try.
> Now, if she had said it while her live-in girlfriend was running a
> prostitution ring out of her home, you might have a story ... nah!
The Barney Frank story broke 23 years ago. Somehow, despite all this
bias, I've heard a lot about it. Your problem about Barney Frank is
not with me or even Al Franken, but with the Massachusetts constituency
that kept returning Frank to Congress.
My own congressman, a Republican, is a dotard who has taken to living
in an underground bunker in a neighboring state because he believes the
end is coming. (If so, it's an end he's helped to create during his
twenty years in the House.) There's hasn't been much ink spilled about
that and, to tell you the truth, I'm more worried about Rep. Morlock
than I am about Barney Frank.
Scott Brady <sbra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, Brad Ferguson wrote:
>
> > In re Al Franken, he was referencing a comment by Sonia Sotomayor,
> > who'd said she'd been inspired to become a lawyer in part by watching
> > Perry Mason when she was a girl. I'm not sure how or why Franken
> > should be blamed for that.
>
> Proving my point, and that the same standard applies to Democratic Supreme
> Court nominees.
>
> > The Twilight thing -- really, who cares? First I've heard of it, and
> > it happened more than two years ago. Now if she'd said it while
> > tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
>
> Of course you haven't heard of it--SHE'S A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More likely I haven't heard about it because it's utterly trivial. I
> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, Brad Ferguson wrote:
>
> > In re Al Franken, he was referencing a comment by Sonia Sotomayor,
> > who'd said she'd been inspired to become a lawyer in part by watching
> > Perry Mason when she was a girl. I'm not sure how or why Franken
> > should be blamed for that.
>
> Proving my point, and that the same standard applies to Democratic Supreme
> Court nominees.
>
> > The Twilight thing -- really, who cares? First I've heard of it, and
> > it happened more than two years ago. Now if she'd said it while
> > tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
>
> Of course you haven't heard of it--SHE'S A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
understand that you're saying it would have been blown out of
proportion if this had involved Republicans. It's hard to argue that
something that never happened wouldn't happen, so I won't try.
> Now, if she had said it while her live-in girlfriend was running a
> prostitution ring out of her home, you might have a story ... nah!
bias, I've heard a lot about it. Your problem about Barney Frank is
not with me or even Al Franken, but with the Massachusetts constituency
that kept returning Frank to Congress.
My own congressman, a Republican, is a dotard who has taken to living
in an underground bunker in a neighboring state because he believes the
end is coming. (If so, it's an end he's helped to create during his
twenty years in the House.) There's hasn't been much ink spilled about
that and, to tell you the truth, I'm more worried about Rep. Morlock
than I am about Barney Frank.
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Scott Brady
Sep 1, 2012, 6:16:21 PM9/1/12
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On Saturday, September 1, 2012 4:04:27 PM UTC-5, Brad Ferguson wrote:
> The Barney Frank story broke 23 years ago. Somehow, despite all this
> bias, I've heard a lot about it. Your problem about Barney Frank is
> not with me or even Al Franken, but with the Massachusetts constituency
> that kept returning Frank to Congress.
The difference, aside from the comparative insignificance of his offense, is that Larry Craig had the good taste to leave office.
> The Barney Frank story broke 23 years ago. Somehow, despite all this
> bias, I've heard a lot about it. Your problem about Barney Frank is
> not with me or even Al Franken, but with the Massachusetts constituency
> that kept returning Frank to Congress.
> My own congressman, a Republican, is a dotard who has taken to living
> in an underground bunker in a neighboring state because he believes the
> end is coming. (If so, it's an end he's helped to create during his
> twenty years in the House.) There's hasn't been much ink spilled about
> that and, to tell you the truth, I'm more worried about Rep. Morlock
> than I am about Barney Frank.
Sarah Ehrett
Sep 1, 2012, 11:27:38 PM9/1/12
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:06:06 -0400, Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net>
wrote:
>Now if she'd said it while tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
A transsexual on the USSC ?
wrote:
>Now if she'd said it while tapping her foot in a men's room stall, maybe you'd have something.
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Roy DeLoon
Sep 6, 2012, 3:27:44 PM9/6/12
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On 9/6/2012 12:54 PM, News wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> "Scott Brady" <sbra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
...and as usual, you're not invited.
> x-no-archive: yes
> "Scott Brady" <sbra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>> And now, thanks to the rigorous oversight of the party that doesn't
>> want the government controlling what you can do with your body, the
>> government controls health care.
>
> I smell a(nother) hypocrite political party!
>> And now, thanks to the rigorous oversight of the party that doesn't
>> want the government controlling what you can do with your body, the
>> government controls health care.
>
>
...and as usual, you're not invited.
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