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Steve Hayes

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Jun 22, 2016, 7:32:27 AM6/22/16
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Struggle hero Vigne dies

by Denver Kisting

Randolph Vigne

RANDOLPH Vigne, a widely-respected anti-apartheid hero, 'was more than
a brother' to many Namibians, National Assembly Speaker Peter
Katjavivi said yesterday.

Vigne passed away on Sunday in Canterbury, England, only three weeks
before his 88th birthday.

Katjavivi said Vigne “was a dear friend and very close to me and my
family. His death is a loss [as he] touched many of us”.

Regarding Vigne's role in the liberation struggle, he said: “He was a
firm and dependable rock in the anti-apartheid struggle.”

Katjavivi, who crossed paths with Vigne in England while the Speaker
was the Swapo representative in London, met Vigne in the Tanzanian
capital Dar es Salaam many years ago.

Benjamin Vigne, one of Vigne's four grandchildren, yesterday told The
Namibian: “I remember him as a very amazing, incredible person. He was
the most humble person I met.”

He emphasised that Vigne, father of Benjamin's dad Piers and a
daughter Lucy, “was genuine and sincere in his actions and politics.
He stood up for what he believed in, and was very brave.”

Vigne was born in Kimberley in South Africa's Northern Cape province
as the great-grandson of an Irish Huguenot settler.

In 1959, he visited the then-South West Africa at the request of
Swapo's representative in Cape Town.

Two years later, in 1961, the veteran assisted former South African
president Nelson Mandela to organise a national strike in Cape Town.

Furthermore, he served as a member of the National Committee for
Liberation between 1961 and 1964. This committee was later renamed the
African Resistance Movement.

By virtue of his political involvement, Vigne regularly crossed swords
with the apartheid government. As a result, he was banned under the
Suppression of Communism Act in 1963.

The following year, Vigne fled from South Africa and sought asylum in
the United Kingdom after the activities of the African Resistance
Movement, which had embarked on acts of sabotage against the National
Party government, had been exposed.

Vigne was a founding member of Friends of Namibia - later renamed as
the Namibia Support Committee - in the United Kingdom in 1969. He also
joined the Anti-Apartheid Movement in London as a national committee
member in 1965.

In 2010, South African president Jacob Zuma bestowed on him the South
African Order of Luthuli in Silver.

Vigne was a leading member of the non-racial Liberal Party in South
Africa before he left the country.

Writer Alan Paton, who was the leader of the party, described Vigne in
his 1988 autobiography, 'Journey Continued', as someone who possessed
a strong and independent personality, and who was “an opponent of
unusual calibre”.

Paton also wrote that Vigne was “without racial fear or prejudice, and
accepted without qualification a universal suffrage in a unitary
society”.

Vigne is understood to have been in ill-health in recent years.

He will be buried in the United Kingdom.

http://www.namibian.com.na/Struggle-hero-Vigne-dies/41984/read
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Steve Hayes

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Jun 22, 2016, 7:39:14 AM6/22/16
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Kenny McCormack

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Jun 22, 2016, 8:41:40 AM6/22/16
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In article <p8ukmb9oro5safs0a...@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <haye...@yahoo.com> re-posted:
>Struggle hero Vigne dies
>
>by Denver Kisting

Sounds like we need to globally killfile "Steve Hayes".

Maybe this would be a good test for "JD"'s theory that some newsservers
still do actually honor "Cancel" requests. I suggest that JD take this on
as a project - to setup a process that will "Cancel" all of "Steve Hayes"'s
reposts.

(Posted from alt.obituaries)

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J.D. Baldwin

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Jun 22, 2016, 9:08:02 AM6/22/16
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In the previous article, Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com>
wrote:
> Maybe this would be a good test for "JD"'s theory that some
> newsservers still do actually honor "Cancel" requests. I suggest
> that JD take this on as a project - to setup a process that will
> "Cancel" all of "Steve Hayes"'s reposts.

That would be abuse and Panix would (rightly) suspend my account, an
outcome I very much do not desire.
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Jun 22, 2016, 9:13:02 AM6/22/16
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Struggle hero? I picture a guy inside a box struggling to get out.

Kenny McCormack

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Jun 22, 2016, 9:13:31 AM6/22/16
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In article <nke2jg$6c6$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
J.D. Baldwin <ne...@baldwin.users.panix.com> wrote:
>
>In the previous article, Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com>
>wrote:
>> Maybe this would be a good test for "JD"'s theory that some
>> newsservers still do actually honor "Cancel" requests. I suggest
>> that JD take this on as a project - to setup a process that will
>> "Cancel" all of "Steve Hayes"'s reposts.
>
>That would be abuse and Panix would (rightly) suspend my account, an
>outcome I very much do not desire.

Good point, that.

I guess we will have to settle for local killfiles.

The old-fashioned way...

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Steve Hayes

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Jun 22, 2016, 11:20:32 AM6/22/16
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 13:40:59 +0200, Steve Hayes
<haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>Struggle hero Vigne dies


Nujoma pays tribute to ‘fearless’ Vigne

June 22, 2016

by Elvis Muraranganda
Nujoma pays tribute to ‘fearless’ Vigne

Windhoek

Founding president Sam Nujoma has expressed his profound sadness and
grief over the passing on of anti-apartheid stalwart Randolph Vigne, a
man he refers to as a dear friend and comrade.

Other leading figures that also joined Nujoma in showering tributes on
the late Vigne include National Assembly Speaker Peter Katjavivi and
career ambassador, Dr Zed Ngavirue. Vigne, 87, died in the Canterbury
Hospital in England on Sunday, just a few weeks before his 88th
birthday.

In a heavy-hearted letter to the bereaved family, Nujoma described
Vigne as a humble and dependable comrade, who was determined to fight
for the just cause of all peace-loving people worldwide.
“Thus, all those who fought for freedom and independence, as well as
human dignity have lost a brother in the struggle,” Nujoma wrote.

“For this reason, the people of Namibia in general and myself, join in
mourning the passing on of Comrade Vigne,” he stated.
He said Vigne “was a true symbol of the liberation struggle throughout
his life. His immense support to fight against colonialism and
apartheid in Namibia and South Africa helped to break the chains of
barbaric oppression and brutality in both of these countries.”

In addition, Nujoma indicated that the late Vigne was a strong
supporter of Namibia’s struggle, waged by Swapo since the early days
when they were fighting against the contract labour system.

Vigne established the Namibia Support Committee in the United Kingdom
where he campaigned for material support that was needed to wage a
successful campaign against apartheid.

It was against this background that in 1966 Nujoma addressed the Royal
Institute for International Affairs on the need to launch the armed
liberation struggle.

He said the meeting was arranged by Vigne through the support
committee of which he was the chairperson.
“Comrade Vigne was a fearless anti-apartheid activist and because of
his good deeds and anti-apartheid stance, the apartheid South Africa
regime banned the Suppression of Communism Act in 1963.”

“Nevertheless, despite the harassments and restrictions, he never
wavered but continued to assist the just cause of our liberation
struggle and helped Swapo to form an alliance with his Liberal Party
in order to fight the common enemy of apartheid white South African
regime.”

“Vigne also played an instrumental role in drafting my autobiography:
‘Where others Wavered’. In this regard, I will forever be greatly
indebted to him.”

Nujoma, Namibia’s president between 1990 and 2005, further referred to
Vigne as a struggle hero and an independent thinker whose heroic deeds
should inspire others to stand up against oppression and acts of
brutality.

Born in Kimberley, South Africa, on July 10, 1928, Vigne visited then
South West Africa at the request of Swapo’s representative in Cape
Town. He notably assisted Chief Hosea Kutako with claims against the
government, following the Old Location shootings of 1959.

An associate of South Africa’s liberation struggle icon Robert
Sobukwe, Vigne participated in the Positive Action Campaign of the Pan
African Congress in 1960 and was the chief organiser of opposition to
Transkei Bantustan self-government between 1960 and 1963.

He assisted Nelson Mandela in Cape Town in planning the 1961 national
strike before escaping arrest in July 1964. He was granted asylum in
Britain.

He is a recipient of the Order of Luthuli in Silver from South African
President Jacob Zuma in 2010.

<URL:https://www.newera.com.na/2016/06/22/nujoma-pays-tribute-fearless-vigne/>

Sarah Ehrett

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Jun 22, 2016, 1:33:04 PM6/22/16
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:41:38 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:

>In article <p8ukmb9oro5safs0a...@4ax.com>,
>Steve Hayes <haye...@yahoo.com> re-posted:
>>Struggle hero Vigne dies
>>
>>by Denver Kisting
>
>Sounds like we need to globally killfile "Steve Hayes".
>
>Maybe this would be a good test for "JD"'s theory that some newsservers
>still do actually honor "Cancel" requests. I suggest that JD take this on
>as a project - to setup a process that will "Cancel" all of "Steve Hayes"'s
>reposts.

As JD pointed out, a TOS violation. Just set up your own kill filter
and no see em again.

I always thought Steve was a valuable contributor to AO but his latest
has me thinking he's just a prat.

>(Posted from alt.obituaries)

David Carson

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Jun 23, 2016, 12:51:47 AM6/23/16
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>Vigne passed away on Sunday in Canterbury, England, only three weeks
>before his 88th birthday.

The rest of you can be bothered by whatever you want; I'm more bothered by
the use of the word "only" in this sentence.

Steve Hayes

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Jun 24, 2016, 2:08:50 PM6/24/16
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:51:38 -0500, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com>
wrote:
What is it that bothers you about it?

David Carson

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Jun 24, 2016, 5:00:22 PM6/24/16
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:10:40 +0200, Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:51:38 -0500, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>Vigne passed away on Sunday in Canterbury, England, only three weeks
>>>before his 88th birthday.
>>
>>The rest of you can be bothered by whatever you want; I'm more bothered by
>>the use of the word "only" in this sentence.
>
>What is it that bothers you about it?

The word "only" in a sentence like this implies that the period of time is
especially short. Three weeks is not an especially short time when
counting birthdays. Maybe it is when you're a 15-year-old girl expecting
to get a car for her 16th birthday. but not when you're 87.

"[He died] three weeks before his 88th birthday" is fine.

"[He died] only three weeks before his 88th birthday" reads, to me, about
the same as "She left her children in the hot car for only seven hours."

Steve Hayes

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Jun 25, 2016, 1:02:56 AM6/25/16
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:00:12 -0500, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:10:40 +0200, Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:51:38 -0500, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Vigne passed away on Sunday in Canterbury, England, only three weeks
>>>>before his 88th birthday.
>>>
>>>The rest of you can be bothered by whatever you want; I'm more bothered by
>>>the use of the word "only" in this sentence.
>>
>>What is it that bothers you about it?
>
>The word "only" in a sentence like this implies that the period of time is
>especially short. Three weeks is not an especially short time when
>counting birthdays. Maybe it is when you're a 15-year-old girl expecting
>to get a car for her 16th birthday. but not when you're 87.
>
>"[He died] three weeks before his 88th birthday" is fine.
>
>"[He died] only three weeks before his 88th birthday" reads, to me, about
>the same as "She left her children in the hot car for only seven hours."

It depends on how you look at it.

I don't think the "only" is necessary in the sentence, but if the time
appeared short to the writer, there's nothing grammatically wrong with
it.

Kenny McCormack

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Jun 25, 2016, 6:24:16 AM6/25/16
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In article <i24smb5uibjndafeh...@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes <haye...@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
>>"[He died] three weeks before his 88th birthday" is fine.
>>
>>"[He died] only three weeks before his 88th birthday" reads, to me, about
>>the same as "She left her children in the hot car for only seven hours."
>
>It depends on how you look at it.
>
>I don't think the "only" is necessary in the sentence, but if the time
>appeared short to the writer, there's nothing grammatically wrong with
>it.

Correct. There is nothing syntactically or semantically wrong with the use
of "only". Nobody is claiming otherwise. Nevertheless, David's point is
that it is just stupid to include it - a point with which I agree.

It's like those TV adds that say things like:

Only 1000 low, low, monthly payments of just $1000.

Yes, I'm exaggerating the numbers. But the point is that neither the
number, nor the size of the payments is small. But there is nothing
either syntactically or semantically wrong with the above sentence.

Unknown

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Jun 25, 2016, 11:03:10 PM6/25/16
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 13:13:30 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:

> In article <nke2jg$6c6$1...@reader1.panix.com>, J.D. Baldwin
> <ne...@baldwin.users.panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>In the previous article, Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Maybe this would be a good test for "JD"'s theory that some
>>> newsservers still do actually honor "Cancel" requests. I suggest that
>>> JD take this on as a project - to setup a process that will "Cancel"
>>> all of "Steve Hayes"'s reposts.
>>
Is this what the F/B, twitter kiddies are up to these days:
<cancel other writers' posts> ?

Kenny McCormack

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Jun 25, 2016, 11:58:54 PM6/25/16
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I suspect you haven't followed this from the outset.

There are, er, extenuating circumstances..

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