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OT: Prevention of paternity fraud (and mistaken paternity)
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leno...@yahoo.com
Jun 15, 2013, 4:16:21 PM6/15/13
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I found it in Slate today at the article Who's Your Daddy?: The perils of personal genomics by Daniel Engber - that is, a commentator posted the link below.
This is not as good as a DNA test, but it's a start. (As I understand it, a simple blood type test can only tell a man "no, this is not your child" or "maybe, maybe not" - there are no "positives.")
All you have to do is know your blood type as well as the types of the other two parties.
http://www.canadiancrc.com/paternity_determination_blood_type.aspx
Lenona.
This is not as good as a DNA test, but it's a start. (As I understand it, a simple blood type test can only tell a man "no, this is not your child" or "maybe, maybe not" - there are no "positives.")
All you have to do is know your blood type as well as the types of the other two parties.
http://www.canadiancrc.com/paternity_determination_blood_type.aspx
Lenona.
Sauve Maria
Jun 15, 2013, 5:11:22 PM6/15/13
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Mother's baby, father's maybe.
R H Draney
Jun 15, 2013, 6:03:30 PM6/15/13
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leno...@yahoo.com filted:
I'm type AB...this means that I cannot father a child with blood type O...all
others are at least possible, with varying degrees of probability depending upon
the mother's type:
Mother type O - 50% chance baby is A or B
Mother type A with no recessive - 50% chance baby is A or AB
Mother type B with no recessive - 50% chance baby is B or AB
Mother type A with recessive O - 50% chance baby is A, 25% B, 25% AB
Mother type B with recessive O - 50% chance baby is B, 25% A, 25% AB
Mother type AB - 50% chance baby is AB, 25% A, 25% B
If mother is type A or B, it may be possible to determine from her parents,
siblings, or any other children she has whether she carries the recessive O gene
or not....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
others are at least possible, with varying degrees of probability depending upon
the mother's type:
Mother type O - 50% chance baby is A or B
Mother type A with no recessive - 50% chance baby is A or AB
Mother type B with no recessive - 50% chance baby is B or AB
Mother type A with recessive O - 50% chance baby is A, 25% B, 25% AB
Mother type B with recessive O - 50% chance baby is B, 25% A, 25% AB
Mother type AB - 50% chance baby is AB, 25% A, 25% B
If mother is type A or B, it may be possible to determine from her parents,
siblings, or any other children she has whether she carries the recessive O gene
or not....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
leno...@yahoo.com
Jun 18, 2013, 2:54:37 PM6/18/13
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And I was somewhat surprised to see that when a child is O-type, that does not mean that either parent has to be an O-type.
The chart also makes it clear that if you're a man who ALREADY knows you're being falsely labeled as the father, but you also know that one of the adults is A-type and the other is B-type, you want to skip the blood type test and go straight to the DNA test, since the former test cannot give you a negative result.
Lenona.
The chart also makes it clear that if you're a man who ALREADY knows you're being falsely labeled as the father, but you also know that one of the adults is A-type and the other is B-type, you want to skip the blood type test and go straight to the DNA test, since the former test cannot give you a negative result.
Lenona.
leno...@yahoo.com
Jun 18, 2013, 3:15:53 PM6/18/13
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Forgot to say: There's a new book out by Tennessee psychologist Helen Smith: "Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters."
I skimmed it for a while (I never buy new books and I'm still waiting for my library to get it). Two of the subjects she discusses are men who are forced by thecourts to support children who are not theirs - and women who lie about being on birth control. While one of her interviewees gave her male readers the common advice of "get a vasectomy" and "flush used condoms away" (which can't be safe for the plumbing), one thing NOBODY mentioned was the need for men to campaign for better male birth control, such as Vasalgel - and then USE it. (Of course, rumor has it that if American men really wanted it, they'd be saying so on TV and the radio, at the very least!)
Anyway, the book now has 45 reviews at Amazon - I just looked and read the newest one from a few minutes ago. That review is pretty provocative, but polite. (Middle paragraph: "I'm one of the many `on strike', which is wise considering the potential consequences and all that I might come up against in today's legal and economic climate. I'm well educated, have a great career, my own home, yada...yada...yada. No way am I betting all that on the flip of a coin. I can't even fathom how families with children handle divorce. Must be the most soul crushing thing in life for all involved. I consider what I'm doing to be identical to what women have done over the past 40+ years. I'm opting out of the traditional way of life.")
Lenona.
I skimmed it for a while (I never buy new books and I'm still waiting for my library to get it). Two of the subjects she discusses are men who are forced by thecourts to support children who are not theirs - and women who lie about being on birth control. While one of her interviewees gave her male readers the common advice of "get a vasectomy" and "flush used condoms away" (which can't be safe for the plumbing), one thing NOBODY mentioned was the need for men to campaign for better male birth control, such as Vasalgel - and then USE it. (Of course, rumor has it that if American men really wanted it, they'd be saying so on TV and the radio, at the very least!)
Anyway, the book now has 45 reviews at Amazon - I just looked and read the newest one from a few minutes ago. That review is pretty provocative, but polite. (Middle paragraph: "I'm one of the many `on strike', which is wise considering the potential consequences and all that I might come up against in today's legal and economic climate. I'm well educated, have a great career, my own home, yada...yada...yada. No way am I betting all that on the flip of a coin. I can't even fathom how families with children handle divorce. Must be the most soul crushing thing in life for all involved. I consider what I'm doing to be identical to what women have done over the past 40+ years. I'm opting out of the traditional way of life.")
Lenona.
Travoltron
Jun 18, 2013, 7:03:41 PM6/18/13
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On 6/18/2013 12:15 PM, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters."
I should get this book for my dad. Maybe he'd stop pestering his sons
> Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters."
into getting married and reproducing.
Brad Ferguson
Jun 18, 2013, 10:35:54 PM6/18/13
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In article <kpqp0a$39o$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Travoltron
Ha. If they get married, he'll complain that they aren't having kids
quickly enough. If they have kids, he'll complain there aren't enough
of them.
quickly enough. If they have kids, he'll complain there aren't enough
of them.
Brad Ferguson
Jun 18, 2013, 10:37:03 PM6/18/13
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the type.
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