Is Otis O'Toole-serial killer-dead?
SHADOW1966
I heard a statement regarding the renewal of American's Most Wanted and
they stated that Otis O'Toole, the serial killer who claimed to have
killed John Walsh's son Adam, died 10 days ago in prison. I've heard
nothing about this crap pile's death and was wondering if it's indeed true
and if so, how did he die?
Gartman
It's true!
Gerlach, Laura
It's too bad they were unable to convict him if it's true. It must be
rough to be a parent of a murdered/missing child and not know who is
responsible.
Gerlach, Laura
Does anyone know why the show was cancelled?
Gartman
John Walsh said Fox thought the show was getting old and stale. The network wanted NEW
shows. How could America's Most Wanted be old or stale? I guess the criminals can rest
easy now.
Jan
Lionel Ginzburg
In article <324B5C...@cityscope.net> Gartman <gar...@cityscope.net> writes:
>Gerlach, Laura wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know why the show was cancelled?
>>
>
>
>shows. How could America's Most Wanted be old or stale? I guess the criminals can rest
>easy now.
>
>Jan
FOX announced two days ago that after a tremendous outpouring of support,
including a petition of 37 state governors, they would be revamping the
show's format and re-introducing it as a mid-season replacement. No
word as to whether Mr. Walsh will still be part of the show.
--
Lionel Artom Ginzburg lgi...@ccat.sas.upenn.edu
Gerlach, Laura
It's interesting that they think it was old and stale. If it was, and
no one was watching it, how did they capture all the criminals they did?
Go figure....
Sandra Doyle
Lionel Ginzburg (lgi...@ccat.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: show's format and re-introducing it as a mid-season replacement. No
: word as to whether Mr. Walsh will still be part of the show.
I'm glad to hear this. My sister watched the final ep and told me about
how sad it was. We both love John and couldn't believe the cancelled the
show. I hope they do use him. He is a true inspiration.
Did you know that many stores (well, Walmart, at least) have a special
code word for children lost/missing in there stores? I learned this the
hard way when on vacation down in Tennessee. My 3-year-old nephew
decided to take a walk while I was deciding to buy something. One moment
he was beside me, the next he was gone. That is the scariest feeling! It's
like your heart drops out of your chest and settles in the bottom of your
gut. I tried not to panic, did a quick scan of the immediate area then
ran to the nearest counter person and interrupted their chat w/a
customer. "My child is missing, he's 3, blond, wearing, blah blah..."
They got on the intercom immediately and announced "Attention, Code
Adam...etc."
I KNEW they were referring to Adam Walsh, and it didn't make me feel
any better, let me tell you. But it was good to see they had their shit
together in that respect. My nephew did show up almost immediately after
the announcement. Calmly strolling along looking around the store. I
snatched him up and hugged him, all I could think was "Thank God!"
(The little bastard did quite a number of those disapearing acts during
that vacation. It's enough to give a person a heart attack!)
Sandra
gjw
Sandra Doyle wrote:
>
> I KNEW they were referring to Adam Walsh, and it didn't make me feel
> any better, let me tell you. But it was good to see they had their shit
> together in that respect. My nephew did show up almost immediately after
> the announcement. Calmly strolling along looking around the store. I
> snatched him up and hugged him, all I could think was "Thank God!"
>
> (The little bastard did quite a number of those disapearing acts during
> that vacation. It's enough to give a person a heart attack!)
>
> Sandra
Have you considered buying a leash? ;)
Gartman
gjw wrote:
>
> Have you considered buying a leash? ;)
My son used to pull the disappearing act on me and we bought a leash for him. A people
critized us for that, but my sister had a great come back. "I would rather have him on a
leash than have to go to the morgue and identify his body!"
Brad Ferguson
In article <52eqpd$p...@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>, "Gerlach, Laura"
<lger...@lmsc.lockheed.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know why the show was cancelled?
Low ratings. Even the final episode did rather poorly.
However, the new head of programming at Fox reinstated AMERICA'S MOST
WANTED during his first day on the job. The show will be retooled in some
fashion and returned to the schedule at mid-season.
--
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Peter Rosa
Maybe Fox *said* AMW was old and stale, but I'm not so sure I can believe that. Most
likely it didn't appeal to the "right" demographic groups ;-)
Ed Perry
Gartman <gar...@cityscope.net> wrote:
>My son used to pull the disappearing act on me and we bought a leash for him. A people
>critized us for that, but my sister had a great come back. "I would rather have him on a
>leash than have to go to the morgue and identify his body!"
They should have been muzzled.
ew
Carolyn
Gartman <gar...@cityscope.net> wrote:
>gjw wrote:
>>
>> Have you considered buying a leash? ;)
>My son used to pull the disappearing act on me and we bought a leash for him. A people
>critized us for that, but my sister had a great come back. "I would rather have him on a
>leash than have to go to the morgue and identify his body!"
When my sons were small, I used to clip a leash to my backyard
clothesline and them run around while I did my gardening and yardwork.
That advice came from my mother who did the same thing when I was
little. Little folks do wander---not a recent development.<g>
NENSLO
: <lger...@lmsc.lockheed.com> wrote:
: >It's too bad they were unable to convict him if it's true. It must be
: >rough to be a parent of a murdered/missing child and not know who is
: >responsible.
Loomis and O'Toole was my favorite show. I never wuould have
thought they could make a comedy about serial killers, and actually have
it turn out funny. The episode with Loomis's mother was incredible!
"If she's DEAD it don't matter WHAT I do to her!"
--
Joe Givens
lgi...@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Lionel Ginzburg) wrote:
>In article <324B5C...@cityscope.net> Gartman <gar...@cityscope.net> writes:
>>Gerlach, Laura wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know why the show was cancelled?
>>>
>>
>>
>>John Walsh said Fox thought the show was getting old and stale. The network wanted NEW
>>shows. How could America's Most Wanted be old or stale? I guess the criminals can rest
>>easy now.
>>
>>Jan
>FOX announced two days ago that after a tremendous outpouring of support,
>including a petition of 37 state governors, they would be revamping the
>show's format and re-introducing it as a mid-season replacement. No
>word as to whether Mr. Walsh will still be part of the show.
>--
>Lionel Artom Ginzburg lgi...@ccat.sas.upenn.edu
The FBI was also a petitioner to keep the show on. I also heard that
John Walsh will return when the new shows are ordered.
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mag3
Quoting thir...@fred.net (Brad Ferguson) regarding Re: Is Otis O'Toole-serial
killer-dead? in a message dated Thu, 26 Sep 1996 22:11:25 -0400:
>The piece of work who killed Polly Klass had his death sentence confirmed
>by the judge today. Boy, it'll be nice to see him go.
I have a theory about Davis. After what I saw on TV, I get the feeling he
ultimately * wants* to die. I think he feels so distraught with his own
miserable life and with what society has done to him (in his own mind) that he
doesn't want to be a part of society anymore. But before he goes, he's going to
give society "the royal finger" one more time. So he shows absolutely no
remorse for his crime to insure a death sentence, and then spends the rest of
whatever life he has left getting his jollies by terrorizing the survivors of
Polly Klaas, since he can't terrorize Polly herself anymore.
I'll bet he fights for all his "appeal" time just so he can live as long as
possible and insult/outrage the Klaas family (and society as a whole just by
living - longer than anyone want's him to that is. He knows he'll get what he
secretly wants eventually so what's to lose. His life's worth nothing now, so
make everyone else's lives just as miserable as his.
My heat goes out to Mark Klaas & family. However, If I were Mark, I'd be a bit
more careful about the public outbursts. I know that will be difficult for him
as it would for anyone in his situation. But such outbursts only feeds Davis'
sick frenzy. Davis is a troll, just like an internet troll. He does things like
that just to see what kind of reaction he can get. The more he gets under the
Klaas family's skin,, the more he gets his jollies. And he's going to keep
trying to troll the Klaas family right up to his last statement before the
Death chamber. Yeah, I'd be just as outraged as Mark Klaas by the things Davis
does, but I'd never give Davis the satisfaction of knowing he "trolled" me.
Not in a million years. I'd just stand there with a warm smile on my face and
drive him crazy for a change.
I've never been a real strong proponent of Capital punishment, but have
accepted it as being the only "necessary and sufficient" measure of justice for
certain crimes and circumstances. And as far as I'm concerned, Davis fits the
bill perfectly. In respect to my previous post about Bundy, to Davis I say,
"Take Care of Yourself."
Regards,
Arnold.
ma...@netcom.com
LMary12
The piece of crap is dead. I think he died of liver disease. Burning in
HELL.
SHADOW1966 <shado...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Louis Epstein
mag3 (ma...@netcom.com) wrote:
:
: I've never been a real strong proponent of Capital punishment, but have
: accepted it as being the only "necessary and sufficient" measure of justice for
: certain crimes and circumstances. And as far as I'm concerned, Davis fits the
: bill perfectly.
In the presence of ANY alternative means of preventing re-occurrence,
sinking to the murderer's level can NEVER be necessary.
Death is the ul;timate extreme of punishment,beyond any sort of torture.
shirley a. smith
I can't help but wonder how Davis will fare in prison. He will have to
be in or near the general population sometime. It took a while for
Dahmer, but eventually he got his. I just hope Davis goes SLOWLEY and
has time to ponder his end.
SS
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GO DALLAS COWBOYS!!
Shirley Smith
fo...@airmail.net
Lionel Ginzburg
In article <325016...@SoCA.com> Jon Ames <noo...@SoCA.com> writes:
>Since child molester/murderers are considered by other prisoners as the lowest
>of all the scum in prison I would think that Mr. Davis time on this planet is
>probably limited. Add to that the fact that this was an extremely
>high profile case and you can imagine how much other prisoners with nothing to
>lose can go down in history as the one who got to Davis. That is the reason
>that Charlie Manson is never in the general population.
Charles Manson is very specifically not in the general population since a
cellmate of his set him on fire about ten years ago. (The cellmate was a
Hare Krishna, and Manson complained about his chanting. The guy doused
him with lighter fluid while he was asleep. Manson sustained some fairly
serious burns.) Up until then, he was treated the same as any other lifer.
(Well, from 1972 on, when his death sentence was commuted.)
Criminals whose offenses are linked to politics, like James Earl Ray (the
guy convicted of killing Martin Luther King) and Sirhan Sirhan (the guy
convicted of killing Robert Kennedy) are kept separately from the general
prison population, however.
I'm not sure what California does to prisoners under a death sentence--
some states keep them locked up as many as 23 hours a day, and most if
not all keep them locked up in a separate wing of a prison.
Jon Ames
shirley a. smith wrote:
> I can't help but wonder how Davis will fare in prison. He will have to
> be in or near the general population sometime. It took a while for
> Dahmer, but eventually he got his. I just hope Davis goes SLOWLEY and
> has time to ponder his end.
>
Since child molester/murderers are considered by other prisoners as the lowest
of all the scum in prison I would think that Mr. Davis time on this planet is
probably limited. Add to that the fact that this was an extremely
high profile case and you can imagine how much other prisoners with nothing to
lose can go down in history as the one who got to Davis. That is the reason
that Charlie Manson is never in the general population.
Be that as it may I predict that Davis won't be around for the State to execute
him. And good riddance one way or another! Not all life is precious!
Jon Ames
Mark J. Welch, Attorney at Law
> shirley a. smith wrote:
> > I can't help but wonder how Davis will fare in prison. He will have to
> > be in or near the general population sometime.
Jon Ames wrote:
> Since child molester/murderers are considered by other prisoners as the lowest
> of all the scum in prison I would think that Mr. Davis time on this planet is
> probably limited. Add to that the fact that this was an extremely
> high profile case and you can imagine how much other prisoners with nothing to
> lose can go down in history as the one who got to Davis. That is the reason
> that Charlie Manson is never in the general population.
> Be that as it may I predict that Davis won't be around for the State to execute
> him. And good riddance one way or another! Not all life is precious!
I won't debate the merits of the death penalty, but since Davis has been
sentenced to death, there is probably nearly a ZERO chance he will have
any meaningful contact with the general prison population. He will most
likely spend 23 hours a day in a cell, with 1 hour of private exercise,
until the day he is taken to the gas chamber. In California, every death
penalty is automatically appealed (by law) to the Supreme Court, but it
seems unlikely that Davis will sway any judges, so he is probably on the
express train to execution -- maybe 2 to 10 years.