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marcus
Sep 8, 2012, 10:25:27 PM9/8/12
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How embracing his LDS faith, that he had not the slightest interest
in, and having a father who was Governor of Michigan, helped him avoid
the draft...at the expense of others:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/07/how-mitt-dodged-the-draft/
in, and having a father who was Governor of Michigan, helped him avoid
the draft...at the expense of others:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/07/how-mitt-dodged-the-draft/
MWB
Sep 8, 2012, 10:36:09 PM9/8/12
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You're MITT'S age.
What branch did you serve in Marcus???
THANK YOU FOR SERVING
GO PATRIOTS
Mark
What branch did you serve in Marcus???
THANK YOU FOR SERVING
GO PATRIOTS
Mark
marcus
Sep 8, 2012, 10:50:27 PM9/8/12
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answer you.
MWB
Sep 8, 2012, 11:29:02 PM9/8/12
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You accuse someone your age of dodging the draft and you served...and
can't tell me what branch of the military you served in....come on Marcus???
GO PATRIOTS
Mark
BobF
Sep 8, 2012, 11:55:05 PM9/8/12
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:50:27 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
shouted from the highest rooftop:
just yesterday.
Mitt Romney Accidentally Confronts A Gay Viet Nam Veteran:
http://www.upworthy.com/mitt-romney-accidentally-confronts-a-gay-veteran-awesomeness-ensues?g=3
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marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 10:39:42 AM9/9/12
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You might want to carefully consider taking ginkgo biloba. I answered
you about this years ago. In fact, at least 2-3 times in the past,
I've answered you. However, I will answer you again.
I wasn't in the military.
I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
President.
I was in college from age 18 until almost 22. If I hadn't had a a
student deferment during my freshman year, and didn't have a large
number assigned to me in the 1969 draft lottery(imagine referring to
something so serious to a person's life as a "lottery"?), I might be
posting in alt.obituaries from Canada or Sweden today...or be exactly
where I am now, but with a prison record.
MWB
Sep 9, 2012, 2:54:44 PM9/9/12
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>
> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
> drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
> President.
GOOD GRIEF!!! Quit your damned pathetic whining.
GO PATRIOTS
Mark
Sarah Ehrett
Sep 9, 2012, 3:21:29 PM9/9/12
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:54:44 -0400, MWB <bic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
>> drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
>> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
>> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
>> President.
>
>
>You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
And then goes on to admit he'd have been a draft dodger himself had he not
>
>>
>> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
>> drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
>> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
>> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
>> President.
>
>
>You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
had a lucky draft lottery number.
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Lanskee Shuru
Sep 9, 2012, 3:50:32 PM9/9/12
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On Saturday, September 8, 2012 10:25:27 PM UTC-4, marcus wrote:
> How embracing his LDS faith, that he had not the slightest interest in, and having a father who was Governor of Michigan, helped him avoid the draft...at the expense of others: http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/07/how-mitt-dodged-the-draft
Essential information----with our draft-dodgers such as M/R and N/G, plus the service avoiders in the form of Senator Rick S as well as BHO--we have CICs or potential CICs who've never spent a day in the military. It's akin to someone's claiming to be an auto mechanic who doesn't know what a cylinder is.
> How embracing his LDS faith, that he had not the slightest interest in, and having a father who was Governor of Michigan, helped him avoid the draft...at the expense of others: http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/07/how-mitt-dodged-the-draft
marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 4:23:59 PM9/9/12
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On Sep 9, 2:54 pm, MWB <bick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
>
> GOOD GRIEF!!! Quit your damned pathetic whining.
>
> GO PATRIOTS
>
> Mark
> > >
> You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
>
> GOOD GRIEF!!! Quit your damned pathetic whining.
>
> GO PATRIOTS
>
> Mark
No Mark,this is what I said:
I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
> > drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
> > how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
> > sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
> > President.
I don't care that he didn't get drafted.
I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
> > drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
> > how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
> > sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
> > President.
And I never used the word "dodge" or "dodger".
I'm not whining. I referred folks, who read this group. to an article
showing Romney's preferential treatment during the time of the Vietnam
War.
I was not aware this happened until I read the article.
Since Romney is running for the highest office in the country, and has
shown himself to be out of touch with, and look down upon the average
working man and woman, I thought this article might be of interest.
marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 4:25:20 PM9/9/12
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On Sep 9, 3:21 pm, Sarah Ehrett <ninety...@cox.net> wrote:
did it openly and honestly, and didn't have Daddy help them, like
Dubya and Mitt did.
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:54:44 -0400, MWB <bick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
> >> drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
> >> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
> >> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
> >> President.
>
> >You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
>
> And then goes on to admit he'd have been a draft dodger himself had he not
> had a lucky draft lottery number.
>
>
>
I have no problem with people who evaded the draft, as long as they
>
> >> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. I don't care that he wasn't
> >> drafted. I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
> >> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
> >> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
> >> President.
>
> >You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
>
> And then goes on to admit he'd have been a draft dodger himself had he not
> had a lucky draft lottery number.
>
>
>
did it openly and honestly, and didn't have Daddy help them, like
Dubya and Mitt did.
marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 4:29:11 PM9/9/12
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On Sep 9, 3:28 pm, "News" <m...@sb.net> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "marcus" <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8443ed75-aebf-427c...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
> You can't possibly imply his exclusion from the draft led to TWO (or
> more) getting drafted.
> One on one, not 2 to 1, or 10 to 1, Marcus.
> BTW, *everyone* of that age range then had a moral right to "dodge"
> [sic] the immoral draft [slavery!], because the Vietnam War was an offensive
> war (not defensive), and the War was also NOT DECLARED a legal War by the
> Congress as the Constitution mandates in the first place.
> Therefore, a man had every right to avoid by any means possible, to
> avoid a possible death (or serious injury) sentence from an illegal and
> immoral war.
> Willard (snicker!) was no different than anyone else in that regard, so
> stop picking on him for that.
> BTW, he was a missionary and if that doesn't prove he had an interest
> in his religion I don't know what does, and did receive a religious
> exemption *and* two student deferments (like many others--including
> yourself), so it wasn't because of George.
> So, you are wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong yet again on your misguided
> assertions that he "dodged" the draft, unless your definition on "dodging"
> includes religious (4-D, as missionaries of any faith received) and student
> (2-S) deferments, and then a high number (300) on the Dec. 1969 draft
> lottery, as many others were lucky to get!
> You are disgusting to say what you did, and you need to apologize for
> your wrongful accusations on at least his not getting drafted!
> If it makes you feel any better, he didn't convert many (10 to 20
> maximum) French Catholics.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#University.2C_France_mission...
>
>
>
> >http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/07/how-mitt-dodged-the-draft/
If you read the article, it explained that he was a "missionary" who
never cared a whit for his religion until Daddy got him to be a
missionary purely to avoid the draft.
Again, I have no problem with him not being drafted or serving in the
military. He should just come clean about the preferential treatment
he received coming from a wealthy family whose patriarch just happened
to be the Governor of Michigan.
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "marcus" <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8443ed75-aebf-427c...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > How embracing his LDS faith, that he had not the slightest interest
> > in, and having a father who was Governor of Michigan, helped him avoid
> > the draft...at the expense of others:
>
> Maybe only ONE other?
> > How embracing his LDS faith, that he had not the slightest interest
> > in, and having a father who was Governor of Michigan, helped him avoid
> > the draft...at the expense of others:
>
> You can't possibly imply his exclusion from the draft led to TWO (or
> more) getting drafted.
> One on one, not 2 to 1, or 10 to 1, Marcus.
> BTW, *everyone* of that age range then had a moral right to "dodge"
> [sic] the immoral draft [slavery!], because the Vietnam War was an offensive
> war (not defensive), and the War was also NOT DECLARED a legal War by the
> Congress as the Constitution mandates in the first place.
> Therefore, a man had every right to avoid by any means possible, to
> avoid a possible death (or serious injury) sentence from an illegal and
> immoral war.
> Willard (snicker!) was no different than anyone else in that regard, so
> stop picking on him for that.
> BTW, he was a missionary and if that doesn't prove he had an interest
> in his religion I don't know what does, and did receive a religious
> exemption *and* two student deferments (like many others--including
> yourself), so it wasn't because of George.
> So, you are wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong yet again on your misguided
> assertions that he "dodged" the draft, unless your definition on "dodging"
> includes religious (4-D, as missionaries of any faith received) and student
> (2-S) deferments, and then a high number (300) on the Dec. 1969 draft
> lottery, as many others were lucky to get!
> You are disgusting to say what you did, and you need to apologize for
> your wrongful accusations on at least his not getting drafted!
> If it makes you feel any better, he didn't convert many (10 to 20
> maximum) French Catholics.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#University.2C_France_mission...
>
>
>
> >http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/07/how-mitt-dodged-the-draft/
If you read the article, it explained that he was a "missionary" who
never cared a whit for his religion until Daddy got him to be a
missionary purely to avoid the draft.
Again, I have no problem with him not being drafted or serving in the
military. He should just come clean about the preferential treatment
he received coming from a wealthy family whose patriarch just happened
to be the Governor of Michigan.
marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 4:30:51 PM9/9/12
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the war ended
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J.D. Baldwin
Sep 9, 2012, 4:54:15 PM9/9/12
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In the previous article, Lanskee Shuru <sugarl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Essential information----with our draft-dodgers such as M/R and N/G,
> plus the service avoiders in the form of Senator Rick S as well as
> BHO--we have CICs or potential CICs who've never spent a day in the
> military. It's akin to someone's claiming to be an auto mechanic who
> doesn't know what a cylinder is.
That's absurd. You don't need to be a veteran to know how to be CinC.
> plus the service avoiders in the form of Senator Rick S as well as
> BHO--we have CICs or potential CICs who've never spent a day in the
> military. It's akin to someone's claiming to be an auto mechanic who
> doesn't know what a cylinder is.
In fact, if you break down the veteran vs. non-veteran presidents
we've had since, basically, Washington, overall the non-veteran
presidents (FDR) and non-combat "gedunk" veterans (Reagan, Lincoln)
make far, far better CinC's than the "real" veterans (Carter, Grant,
JFK, Bush I), who tend to be pretty horrible.
There are exceptions: non-vet Wilson was possibly the most horrible
CinC ever, but then that's of a piece with him being the worst
everything ever. War hero Ike was quite good. But that's not the way
to bet.
I'm no fan of Obama for a lot of reasons, but I do think he's been
quite a good CinC in most respects.
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_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it.-T. Lehrer
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Sarah Ehrett
Sep 9, 2012, 5:33:19 PM9/9/12
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Sep 9, 3:21�pm, Sarah Ehrett <ninety...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:54:44 -0400, MWB <bick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. �I don't care that he wasn't
>> >> drafted. �I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
>> >> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
>> >> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
>> >> President.
>>
>> >You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
>>
>> And then goes on to admit he'd have been a draft dodger himself had he not
>> had a lucky draft lottery number.
>>
>>
>>
>I have no problem with people who evaded the draft,
They're criminals just as you'd be had you evaded the draft.
>as long as they did it openly and honestly, and didn't have Daddy help them, like
>Dubya <snip>
Are you saying GW Bush evaded military service? Do you seriously think
flying a strategic nuclear bomber is evading combat? Bush never deployed
to Vietnam because he piloted a plane which had no role in Vietnam. He was
supposed to bomb the Ruskies.
wrote:
>On Sep 9, 3:21�pm, Sarah Ehrett <ninety...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:54:44 -0400, MWB <bick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I don't care that Romney didn't serve. �I don't care that he wasn't
>> >> drafted. �I just resent when the rich and elite don't come clean on
>> >> how they avoided the draft, and then have no compunctions about
>> >> sending young people into war when they become President or Vice
>> >> President.
>>
>> >You care enough to call him a draft dodger.
>>
>> And then goes on to admit he'd have been a draft dodger himself had he not
>> had a lucky draft lottery number.
>>
>>
>>
>I have no problem with people who evaded the draft,
>as long as they did it openly and honestly, and didn't have Daddy help them, like
Are you saying GW Bush evaded military service? Do you seriously think
flying a strategic nuclear bomber is evading combat? Bush never deployed
to Vietnam because he piloted a plane which had no role in Vietnam. He was
supposed to bomb the Ruskies.
marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 6:13:28 PM9/9/12
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On Sep 9, 5:33 pm, Sarah Ehrett <ninety...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com>
Aren't you supposed to show up first?
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com>
marcus
Sep 9, 2012, 6:14:52 PM9/9/12
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On Sep 9, 4:56 pm, "News" <m...@sb.net> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "marcus" <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7981f863-1c59-49c6...@t4g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "marcus" <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>
> ---
>
> There's always another wonderful war in recent U.S. history that anyone can
> eagerly join in on the military fun.
>
> 1980--Iran rescue mission, Obama could have volunteered at 18.
> 1983--Grenada, and Obama could have volunteered at 22.
> 1990--Iraq 1, and Obama could have volunteered at 29.
> 1992--Somalia, and Obama could have volunteered at 31.
> 1995--Bosnia, and Obama could have volunteered to join the UN fighting force
> at 34.
> Why didn't he?
He didn't just like anyone who didn't want to make the military their
career.
You do realize that the army has been based on volunteers for awhile
now...right?
X ` Man
Sep 9, 2012, 6:27:04 PM9/9/12
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with asperger's syndrome.
Sarah Ehrett
Sep 9, 2012, 6:36:38 PM9/9/12
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:13:28 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Do you seriously want to rehash that old lie?
wrote:
Sarah Ehrett
Sep 9, 2012, 6:38:13 PM9/9/12
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:14:52 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You don't have to make it your career to serve in the military.
>You do realize that the army has been based on volunteers for awhile
>now...right?
ALL US military personnel are volunteers - Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,
Coast Guard.
wrote:
>You do realize that the army has been based on volunteers for awhile
>now...right?
Coast Guard.
BAR
Sep 9, 2012, 6:39:30 PM9/9/12
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In article <OpqdnVg48politDN...@earthlink.com>, dump-on-
conser...@anywhere-you-can.com says...
He paid his taxes and you didn't.
conser...@anywhere-you-can.com says...
BAR
Sep 9, 2012, 6:48:18 PM9/9/12
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In article <9g6q48le30ckrdhnh...@4ax.com>,
nine...@cox.net says...
Military Forces = Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines
Armed Forces = Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard.
Uniformed Services = Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, NOAA
and USPHS
nine...@cox.net says...
Armed Forces = Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard.
Uniformed Services = Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, NOAA
and USPHS
Sarah Ehrett
Sep 9, 2012, 7:34:04 PM9/9/12
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Force, Marine, and Coast Guard. If you have a service academy you're part
of the military, and that would also include the USMMA for the Merchant
Marines.
BAR
Sep 9, 2012, 7:45:58 PM9/9/12
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MWB
Sep 9, 2012, 7:52:37 PM9/9/12
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GO PATRIOTS
Mark
Sarah Ehrett
Sep 9, 2012, 7:54:08 PM9/9/12
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Coast Guard Academy in New London. Often you'll see the academy's barque
Eagle docked at the Academy's pier.
BAR
Sep 9, 2012, 8:51:38 PM9/9/12
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BAR
Sep 10, 2012, 7:25:45 AM9/10/12
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In article <BredncNENtPACdDN...@earthlink.com>, m...@sb.net
says...
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "X ` Man" <dump-on-co...@anywhere-you-can.com> wrote in message
> news:OpqdnVg48politDN...@earthlink.com...
> Hey, fuckwad, pretend doctor!
> I served 4 years.
> What about you, dogface?
> Come on, did you enlist, or were you a coward, just as you are in not
> paying your fair share of taxes with your high income?
> Hypocrite (lyin' ass) hairy-ape makes another false report about
> someone, again.
> Are you proud of driving away MadCow (and others) with your ape-like
> insults and brutal treatment of a woman?
> You are some "man," you hairy-ape.
>
Harry is no man, he doesn't take care of his legal obligations like a
man.
says...
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "X ` Man" <dump-on-co...@anywhere-you-can.com> wrote in message
> news:OpqdnVg48politDN...@earthlink.com...
> I served 4 years.
> What about you, dogface?
> Come on, did you enlist, or were you a coward, just as you are in not
> paying your fair share of taxes with your high income?
> Hypocrite (lyin' ass) hairy-ape makes another false report about
> someone, again.
> Are you proud of driving away MadCow (and others) with your ape-like
> insults and brutal treatment of a woman?
> You are some "man," you hairy-ape.
>
Harry is no man, he doesn't take care of his legal obligations like a
man.
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BobF
Sep 10, 2012, 9:58:13 PM9/10/12
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 02:18:48 -0500, "News" <m...@sb.net> shouted from the
highest rooftop:
> Hey, fuckwad, pretend doctor!
* * * * * * *
The least you can do is stop repeating 2nd-grade, infantile insults.
Unless you enjoy stooping to that low level of discourse.
- From The Sayings of Roy
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