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Louis Epstein
Jul 29, 2021, 11:16:05 PM7/29/21
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Michigan's Carl M. Levin,who spent 36 years in the United States Senate,has died at
87 years,one month,and one day of age on July 29th 2021 according to the Detroit
Free Press and others.
His brother Sander Levin(born 1931) spent 36 years in the United States House
and has been succeeded by his son.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
87 years,one month,and one day of age on July 29th 2021 according to the Detroit
Free Press and others.
His brother Sander Levin(born 1931) spent 36 years in the United States House
and has been succeeded by his son.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
radioacti...@gmail.com
Jul 30, 2021, 1:44:49 AM7/30/21
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Wow--I never realized Congressman [of the House] Levin was OLDER than brother Congressman [of the Senate] Levin; he sure LOOKED younger, at least to me, and served in the lower chamber, so I always thought of him as the kid brother! Your posting cleared that up, and thus I thank you for filling yet another gap in my knowledge base, Louis.
I managed to see the quite affable Carl up close in downtown in The Murder City i.e. The Motor City one afternoon circa 1995 at some official function or other I was attending, and after introducing myself and chatting for a bit, he agreed to guest soon on WJR/Detroit's "Open Lines for Open Minds with Bryan Styble", but I never got around to scheduling him. Too late now, for more than one reason.
Oh, and speaking of young-appearing Congresspeople from Michigan: I also, at about the same time at a different public event during my tenure on Michigan's commercial newstalk radio airwaves, got to meet the late U.S. Representative John Dingell, also downtown in that wretched* and (not at all incidentally) most-segregated big city in America.
But that particular day in Detroit, Congressman Dingell--who was tall enough to have played center for The Pistons, perhaps even 6'8"--was NOT accompanied by his wife (and now Congressional successor), the widow Debbie Dingell...which is a DARNED LUCKY thing for me, for theirs was such a May-December marriage that I likely would have said something to the effect of, "Nice to finally meet you, Congressman--and I guess this must be your daughter Debbie?"
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
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* A slogan painted in HUGE LETTERS on a building on the east side of Woodward Avenue--Motown's main drag--right before you "hit** 8 Mile Road" and leave the city limits to enter the generally lily-white suburbs--implored all northbound motorists to "Say Nice Things About Detroit!" To which I always said to myself after crossing 8 Mile, "Well, it sure IS a nice thing that I didn't get a bullet through my brain during this visit to Detroit!"
** That's an allusion to the most famous quote of the late Mayor Coleman Young, whom I also only met only once, also downtown. (But I DID attend both his final inauguration as well as his TERRIBLY OVERWROUGHT funeral; well, it WAS Detroit after all, so I should have anticipated that degree of puerile emotionalism by all those sobbing mourners who probably never met him and may not have even gone to the trouble of going to the polling place to vote for him.) Anyway, in Young's FIRST inaugural address in 1968, he infamously told the crowd, "OK you pimps and addicts, it's time to hit 8 Mile Road!", which the new mayor would always CLAIM meant "I'm going to clean up Detroit"...but which nearly every white voter in Greater Detroit took to mean, "OK all you black criminals, now it's time to go prey on the whites who live up in the affluent, northern neighborhoods."
I managed to see the quite affable Carl up close in downtown in The Murder City i.e. The Motor City one afternoon circa 1995 at some official function or other I was attending, and after introducing myself and chatting for a bit, he agreed to guest soon on WJR/Detroit's "Open Lines for Open Minds with Bryan Styble", but I never got around to scheduling him. Too late now, for more than one reason.
Oh, and speaking of young-appearing Congresspeople from Michigan: I also, at about the same time at a different public event during my tenure on Michigan's commercial newstalk radio airwaves, got to meet the late U.S. Representative John Dingell, also downtown in that wretched* and (not at all incidentally) most-segregated big city in America.
But that particular day in Detroit, Congressman Dingell--who was tall enough to have played center for The Pistons, perhaps even 6'8"--was NOT accompanied by his wife (and now Congressional successor), the widow Debbie Dingell...which is a DARNED LUCKY thing for me, for theirs was such a May-December marriage that I likely would have said something to the effect of, "Nice to finally meet you, Congressman--and I guess this must be your daughter Debbie?"
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
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* A slogan painted in HUGE LETTERS on a building on the east side of Woodward Avenue--Motown's main drag--right before you "hit** 8 Mile Road" and leave the city limits to enter the generally lily-white suburbs--implored all northbound motorists to "Say Nice Things About Detroit!" To which I always said to myself after crossing 8 Mile, "Well, it sure IS a nice thing that I didn't get a bullet through my brain during this visit to Detroit!"
** That's an allusion to the most famous quote of the late Mayor Coleman Young, whom I also only met only once, also downtown. (But I DID attend both his final inauguration as well as his TERRIBLY OVERWROUGHT funeral; well, it WAS Detroit after all, so I should have anticipated that degree of puerile emotionalism by all those sobbing mourners who probably never met him and may not have even gone to the trouble of going to the polling place to vote for him.) Anyway, in Young's FIRST inaugural address in 1968, he infamously told the crowd, "OK you pimps and addicts, it's time to hit 8 Mile Road!", which the new mayor would always CLAIM meant "I'm going to clean up Detroit"...but which nearly every white voter in Greater Detroit took to mean, "OK all you black criminals, now it's time to go prey on the whites who live up in the affluent, northern neighborhoods."
radioacti...@gmail.com
Jul 30, 2021, 2:35:47 AM7/30/21
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Actually, upon reflection, I believe Coleman Young's most regretted words were, "...you pimps and pushers".
Now I COULD quickly look it up to confirm his precise wording, but thinking about Detroit in general and Young in particular just gets me angry and depressed.*
STYBLE/Florida
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* You see, I'm ALREADY too angry and depressed that Simone Biles got largely PRAISED--instead of hugely slammed--for quitting, citing obviously phonied-up "mental health" concerns. Clearly, Biles self-centeredly quit because, for whatever reasons, she just couldn't harness her formidable physical talents this week, and wanted to avoid closing out her Olympics career with a lousy performance. So instead Biles just immaturely and transparently copycatted that fellow-quitter Japanese tennis player. (Biles at least could have come up with her OWN false reason to chicken out; such lack of imagination does not speak well of her mind.). And all this DESPITE her twin immunities to well-earned criticism, i.e., her being (1) a young, petite female and (2) black.
Now I COULD quickly look it up to confirm his precise wording, but thinking about Detroit in general and Young in particular just gets me angry and depressed.*
STYBLE/Florida
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* You see, I'm ALREADY too angry and depressed that Simone Biles got largely PRAISED--instead of hugely slammed--for quitting, citing obviously phonied-up "mental health" concerns. Clearly, Biles self-centeredly quit because, for whatever reasons, she just couldn't harness her formidable physical talents this week, and wanted to avoid closing out her Olympics career with a lousy performance. So instead Biles just immaturely and transparently copycatted that fellow-quitter Japanese tennis player. (Biles at least could have come up with her OWN false reason to chicken out; such lack of imagination does not speak well of her mind.). And all this DESPITE her twin immunities to well-earned criticism, i.e., her being (1) a young, petite female and (2) black.
Louis Epstein
Jul 30, 2021, 3:37:27 AM7/30/21
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radioacti...@gmail.com <radioacti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow--I never realized Congressman [of the House] Levin was OLDER than
> brother Congressman [of the Senate] Levin; he sure LOOKED younger, at
> least to me, and served in the lower chamber, so I always thought of him
> as the kid brother! Your posting cleared that up, and thus I thank you
> for filling yet another gap in my knowledge base, Louis.
The older brother actually held elective office first,
> Wow--I never realized Congressman [of the House] Levin was OLDER than
> brother Congressman [of the Senate] Levin; he sure LOOKED younger, at
> least to me, and served in the lower chamber, so I always thought of him
> as the kid brother! Your posting cleared that up, and thus I thank you
> for filling yet another gap in my knowledge base, Louis.
but the younger one went to Washington first.
> I managed to see the quite affable Carl up close in downtown in The
> Murder City i.e. The Motor City one afternoon circa 1995 at some
> official function or other I was attending, and after introducing
> myself and chatting for a bit, he agreed to guest soon on
> WJR/Detroit's "Open Lines for Open Minds with Bryan Styble", but I
> never got around to scheduling him. Too late now, for more than one
> reason.
>
> Oh, and speaking of young-appearing Congresspeople from Michigan: I
> also, at about the same time at a different public event during my
> tenure on Michigan's commercial newstalk radio airwaves, got to meet
> the late U.S. Representative John Dingell, also downtown in that
> wretched* and (not at all incidentally) most-segregated big city in
> America.
>
> But that particular day in Detroit, Congressman Dingell--who was tall
> enough to have played center for The Pistons, perhaps even 6'8"--was NOT
6'3"...Senator Luther Strange of Alabama and Congressman Tom
McMillen of Maryland (both now out of office) I believe hold the
records for their respective houses at 6'9" and 6'11".
> accompanied by his wife (and now Congressional successor), the widow
> Debbie Dingell...which is a DARNED LUCKY thing for me, for theirs was
> such a May-December marriage that I likely would have said something to
> the effect of, "Nice to finally meet you, Congressman--and I guess this
> must be your daughter Debbie?"
younger by far greater margins.
> BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
> ______________________________________________
> * A slogan painted in HUGE LETTERS on a building on the east side of
> Woodward Avenue--Motown's main drag--right before you "hit** 8 Mile
> Road"
> and leave the city limits to enter the generally lily-white
> suburbs--implored all northbound motorists to "Say Nice Things About
> Detroit!" To which I always said to myself after crossing 8 Mile,
> "Well, it sure IS a nice thing that I didn't get a bullet through my
> brain during this visit to Detroit!"
> ** That's an allusion to the most famous quote of the late Mayor
> Coleman Young, whom I also only met only once, also downtown. (But I
> DID attend both his final inauguration as well as his TERRIBLY
> OVERWROUGHT funeral; well, it WAS Detroit after all, so I should have
> anticipated that degree of puerile emotionalism by all those sobbing
> mourners who probably never met him and may not have even gone to the
> trouble of going to the polling place to vote for him.) Anyway, in
> Young's FIRST inaugural address in 1968, he infamously told the crowd,
> "OK you pimps and addicts, it's time to hit 8 Mile Road!", which the new
> mayor would always CLAIM meant "I'm going to clean up Detroit"...but
> which nearly every white voter in Greater Detroit took to mean, "OK all
> you black criminals, now it's time to go prey on the whites who live up
> in the affluent, northern neighborhoods."
Louis Epstein
Jul 30, 2021, 3:38:23 AM7/30/21
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Louis Epstein
Jul 31, 2021, 12:17:36 AM7/31/21
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Louis Epstein <l...@top.put.com> wrote:
> radioacti...@gmail.com <radioacti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow--I never realized Congressman [of the House] Levin was OLDER than
>> brother Congressman [of the Senate] Levin; he sure LOOKED younger, at
>> least to me, and served in the lower chamber, so I always thought of him
>> as the kid brother! Your posting cleared that up, and thus I thank you
>> for filling yet another gap in my knowledge base, Louis.
>
> The older brother actually held elective office first,
> but the younger one went to Washington first.
Checking details,when Carl first ran for Detroit City Council,
> radioacti...@gmail.com <radioacti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow--I never realized Congressman [of the House] Levin was OLDER than
>> brother Congressman [of the Senate] Levin; he sure LOOKED younger, at
>> least to me, and served in the lower chamber, so I always thought of him
>> as the kid brother! Your posting cleared that up, and thus I thank you
>> for filling yet another gap in my knowledge base, Louis.
>
> The older brother actually held elective office first,
> but the younger one went to Washington first.
his brother was already Minority Leader of the State Senate,
and during Carl's tenure on the Council Sander was the unsuccessful
Democratic nominee for Governor twice.
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