Bonnie Clark Halderman, 60, mother of David Koresh
anon
By MICHAEL GRACZYK – 49 minutes ago
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HOUSTON (AP) — The mother of infamous Branch Davidian sect leader David
Koresh has been stabbed to death, and Koresh's aunt was in custody on a
murder charge Saturday.
Bonnie Clark Halderman, 60, was found Friday afternoon at the home of
her sister, Beverly Clark, in a rural area near Chandler, Henderson
County Sheriff Ray Nutt said. Chandler is about 175 miles north of Houston.
"It's still under investigation, and we really don't know what the
motive was or what caused this to happen," Nutt said Saturday.
He said deputies were called to the home Friday and the two women were
the only people in the house when deputies arrived. A knife believed to
be the murder weapon was found.
Clark, 54, was being held without bail pending a court appearance. Jail
officials said she did not yet have an attorney to speak for her.
Halderman wrote a 2007 autobiography, "Memories of the Branch Davidians:
The Autobiography of David Koresh's Mother," that described how her son,
Vernon Howell, became David Koresh, leader of the Branch Davidian cult.
In 1993, agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
tried to arrest Koresh for allegedly stockpiling weapons and explosives
at the Branch Davidians' ranch compound outside Waco.
The confrontation led to a 51-day standoff that ended when the complex
caught fire and burned to the ground on April 19, 1993, killing Koresh
and nearly 80 of his followers.
About two dozen children were among the victims.
The government claimed the Davidians committed suicide by setting the
fire and shooting themselves. Survivors said the blaze was started by
tear gas rounds fired into the compound. A 10-month independent
investigation concluded in 2000 that Koresh was solely to blame.
Laurie Mann
> Waco cult leader's mother killed, aunt charged
>
>
> HOUSTON (AP) — The mother of infamous Branch Davidian sect leader David
> Koresh has been stabbed to death, and Koresh's aunt was in custody on a
> murder charge Saturday.
>
> Bonnie Clark Halderman, 60, was found Friday afternoon at the home of
> her sister, Beverly Clark, in a rural area near Chandler, Henderson
> County Sheriff Ray Nutt said. Chandler is about 175 miles north of Houston.
There's no way a woman who was 60 this year could have been David
Koresh's mother. If David Koresh was still alive, he'd be 50 this
year.
While Wikipedia is often wrong, it says Bonnie was 16 when she had
David in 1959, so she would have been born in 1943. So she would have
about 66 (which is young but not impossible), not about 60 (which is
almost impossible).
Do the math!
Laurie
Matthew Kruk
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On Jan 24, 4:51 pm, anon <nu...@yerbidness.com> wrote:
> Waco cult leader's mother killed, aunt charged
There's no way a woman who was 60 this year could have been David
Koresh's mother. If David Koresh was still alive, he'd be 50 this
year.
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Adopted at an older age? Given the nature of Waco et al maybe even
kidnapped :-)
Laurie Mann
>> "Laurie Mann" <laurieman...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> On Jan 24, 4:51 pm, anon <nu...@yerbidness.com> wrote:> Waco cult leader's mother killed, aunt charged
>> Koresh's mother. If David Koresh was still alive, he'd be 50 this year.
> kidnapped :-)
No, he had a teenaged mother (that I did remember from the old stories
about him). People writing about her death just didn't bother to
check their math or the year of her brith.
Laurie
Kris Baker
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Do the math!
Laurie
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Amazon.com shows pages of books, so I found her auto-bio.
According to that, David was born on Aug 17, 1959 "just
before she turned 15". So if she was 14 on that date,
she was born in 1945 - and would be 63 when she died..
I think the problem is that there's no real agreement of
her birth date.....and anything's possible.
Do you have any geneaological info on her, Laurie?
Kris
Kris Baker
Laurie
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The local paper is saying she was 60, also.
http://www.corsicanadailysun.com/news/local_story_024140715.html
Jed
For what it's worth, Wikipedia lists (with references) births from 5
years of age on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
I'm not saying that Koresh was born when his mother was 9 or 10, just
that it was not beyond the realm of possibility.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Laurie Mann <laurie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's no way a woman who was 60 this year could have been David
> Koresh's mother.
It would be pretty twisted, but it's far from impossible. Still, I
do agree that they probably just have her age wrong. That's a lot
farther from impossible.
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Laurie Mann
> > In the previous article, Laurie Mann <laurieman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There's no way a woman who was 60 this year could have been David
> > Koresh's mother.
>
> It would be pretty twisted, but it's far from impossible. Still, I
> do agree that they probably just have her age wrong. That's a lot
> farther from impossible.
Also, if she was pregnant at 11, that means the father of her baby was
probably a male relative. And that would be even more twisted... But
a pregnant 15 or 16 year old makes a little more sense, meaning she
would have been closer to 65 or 66..
David Carson
As I showed in a thread with her name spelled correctly (but Koresh's
misspelled), she was 64.
David Carson
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version of his Spiderman predecessor, Loomis, from 1979. (That episode
was soon after the Jonestown massacre and it was pretty scary even for
kids who'd never heard of that, since we're talking about a villain
with no supernatural powers or strange looks but with incredible
hypnotic control over crowds - like Jones.) You can see some Sunday
strips here:
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/title/spiderman_newspaper_strip.html
You have to scroll about halfway down to April 1979 and click on "Show
Gallery."
Some strips will shrink after you open them. Simply put the mouse over
the bottom-right hand corner, watch for an icon to appear, and click
to enlarge.
Lenona.
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And, for all the talk nowadays of girls coming into puberty too soon
due to changing diets, one will see from the list (assuming the ages
and dates are correct) that many of the births happened quite a few
decades ago. One story not mentioned was one I saw in the 1980 book
"Changing Bodies, Changing Lives." It was about a ten-year-old girl
who gave birth to twins in 1979. They also mentioned a seven-year-old
BOY who had fathered a baby. The point was that you should never
assume you're too young to cause a pregnancy.
Lenona.
Jane Margaret Laight
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:52:25 -0800 (PST), Laurie Mann
>
Thank you David--to corroborate, according to ancestry.com, she was
born September 8, 1944 in Bastrop County, Texas, hence she would be
sixty-four, as you said.