Amanda Blake's death

[ali...@net.com]

I'm curious how Amanda Blake managed to catch AIDS (she died of it).
Anyone know?

[William J. Meyerbeck]

Her last husband was bi. She gave interviews about it and
was not a happy camper.

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[Kqt36]

If I recall,was her death at the time simply reported as from cancer?
I think it was not until a couple of years later that the AIDS diagnosis
was confirmed.Same thing happened to Robert Reed of Brady Bunch and
Mannix fame.It was reported as colon cancer at the time.

[William J. Meyerbeck]

"Kqt36" <fg...@u5tex.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1515bc698...@enews.newsguy.com...

From a medical standpoint, you don't die of AIDS. By shutting down
your immune system, AIDS opens the door for one of a variety
of diseases to take you out.

[MadCow57]

>>If I recall,was her death at the time simply reported as from cancer?
I think it was not until a couple of years later that the AIDS diagnosis
was confirmed.Same thing happened to Robert Reed of Brady Bunch and

Mannix fame.It was reported as colon cancer at the time. << -- Kqt36

That was the shameful custom back then.

[Louis Epstein]

MadCow57 (madc...@aol.com) wrote:
: >>If I recall,was her death at the time simply reported as from cancer?

AIDS can't exactly kill by itself...it just blasts down the doors so
that other things kill you that wouldn't kill someone without AIDS.

[Brad Ferguson]

In article <MPG.1515bc698...@enews.newsguy.com>, Kqt36
<fg...@u5tex.net> wrote:

> > Her last husband was bi. She gave interviews about it and
> > was not a happy camper.
> >
> > <ali...@net.com> wrote in message news:3AAC8F4C...@net.com...
> > > I'm curious how Amanda Blake managed to catch AIDS (she died of it).
> > > Anyone know?
> > >
> > >
> If I recall,was her death at the time simply reported as from cancer?

Yes. Blake had apparently recovered from cancer of the palate; her
death (on August 16, 1989 at 60) was originally blamed on a recurrence.
Mark Spaeth, the (fourth) husband who's been blamed for infecting
Blake, died later that same year.

> I think it was not until a couple of years later that the AIDS diagnosis
> was confirmed.

The story was reported that November, three months later.

> Same thing happened to Robert Reed of Brady Bunch and
> Mannix fame.It was reported as colon cancer at the time.

It was, but IIRC his daughter Carolyn told the truth about the cause of
death from the start. (Robert Reed was in "Mannix"?)

[Kent]

Someone dropped me a note recently saying my listing Kevin Peter Hall's
cause of death as AIDS on my website was insensitive. They said that even
though that's true, that he got it through no fault of his own via a blood
transfusion and I should say that.

So have we gotten past the point where AIDS is in a special category or not?
Plenty of people die of cancer "through no fault of their own" but plenty
die from cancer directly tied to personal habits as well (i.e. smoking). Is
there a distinction made between the two different cases as appears still to
be true (at least to some extent) with AIDS?

Kent
Dead or Alive?
http://www.dead-or-alive.org

"MadCow57" <madc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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[RChamp7927]

Bard asks:

> (Robert Reed was in "Mannix"?)

Maybe the poster was thinking of "The Defenders," a mid-60s program that
launched Reed's career. The show also starred E. G. Marshall.

I don't remember Reed ever appearing in "Mannix."

Bob Champ

[King Daevid MacKenzie, UltimaJock!]

"RChamp7927" <rcham...@aol.com> sez:

> I don't remember Reed ever appearing in "Mannix."

...Lt. Adam Tobias, Mannix's police department contact. Between '69 and '75,
according to the IMDb...

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[Brad Ferguson]

In article
<531C4F20A456F497.FC8F92F8...@lp.airnews.net>,
David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:45:06 -0800, "William J. Meyerbeck"
> <meye...@softhome.ncrap1.net> wrote:
>
> >From a medical standpoint, you don't die of AIDS. By shutting down
> >your immune system, AIDS opens the door for one of a variety
> >of diseases to take you out.
>

> That distinction can be made for practically any cause of death. You
> can always attribute a general cause to something more specific.

When we say that someone died in a car wreck, we're actually saying
that someone died of the injuries sustained in that car wreck.

I see no meaningful difference between saying someone died of AIDS and
someone died of an AIDS-related illness. There comes a point where
strict accuracy becomes useless pedantry.

[Louis Epstein]

Brad Ferguson (thir...@frXOXed.net) wrote:
: In article

In the case of AIDS,it's more like someone dying because he was in
a car wreck and was pinned helpless in the wreckage when someone came
over and shot him.

[MadCow57]

A friend just told me that her boyfriend was spending a lot of time nursing his
dying brother, but asked me not to tell anybody.

Code word. Dead giveaway.

[Mpoconnor7]

>Someone dropped me a note recently saying my listing Kevin Peter Hall's
>cause of death as AIDS on my website was insensitive. They said that even
>though that's true, that he got it through no fault of his own via a blood
>transfusion and I should say that.
>

I guess it would be insensitive to mention that Arthur Ashe died of AIDS also.
Political Correctness has gone too far.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The probability of one person being right increases in a direct porportion to
the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"

[mann...@net.com]

Let's not forget that cancer was once (and often still) shamefully
disguised as "a
long illness." "DD died after a long illness."

[Kqt36]

> I don't remember Reed ever appearing in "Mannix."
>
> Bob Champ
>

Then you didn`t watch Mannix very often.He was Lt.Tobias,who
appeared every now and then,he was an old aquaintance of Mannix,
who gave Mannix police info he would not otherwise have gotten.
Very similar to the Dennis Becker character on the Rockford Files.

[Brad Ferguson]

Good point. The last time I ran into that, it was an elderly nun who'd
died of breast cancer. Her family didn't want the cause of death
known, although (and I'm not being flippant here) I'm not sure whether
they were sensitive about it being cancer, or about it having been in
her breast.

I remember a stretch in the 1960/70s when newspaper astrology columns
started renaming Cancer to Moon Children.

[mann...@net.com]

Brad Ferguson wrote:

Didn't that newspaper ever hear of lunacy, lunatics, and bastards? :)

[Kent]

Yeah, now that you mention it, cancer really was taboo to talk about back
then. That whole concept seems too weird these days, to me at least. I
don't much care for that "long illness" bit either. It's not fooling
anybody and just looks silly.

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[Louis Epstein]

Kent (ke...@dead-or-alive.org) wrote:
: Yeah, now that you mention it, cancer really was taboo to talk about back

: then. That whole concept seems too weird these days, to me at least. I
: don't much care for that "long illness" bit either. It's not fooling
: anybody and just looks silly.

Aren't there other long illnesses?

: <mann...@net.com> wrote in message news:3AAE9FD6...@net.com...

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[Barry Shein]

Suicide is also often euphemized, particularly in Roman Catholic
populations. We found that out at Harvard when a fairly large
mortality study* of firefighters in Boston seemed to indicate they
(statistically) never committed suicide which seemed odd. A little
cross-checking and some interviewing indicated that out of respect for
the families "suicide" was almost never listed as a cause of death but
rather things like "accident", "heart failure", etc. We still couldn't
really fix that in the statistics though.

* You take an occupation, haul out all the death certificates, write
down all the causes of death, and look for anomalies possibly related
to the occupation.
--
-Barry Shein

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[MadCow57]

>>Further, suicide is a mortal sin, which means that the decedent's soul
goes to hell. . . .<< -- Brad Ferguson

Thank you for posting the additional information, which I believe is correct.

Also, suicides had to be buried outside a consecrated cemetery's walls, causing
the family to buy another piece of land, an expenditure they certainly wanted
to avoid.

[MadCow57]

>>Suicide is also often euphemized, particularly in Roman Catholic

populations.<< -- Barry Shein

Suicides cannot be buried in consecrated ground. That's why.

[Brad Ferguson]

In article <20010315005350...@ng-xc1.aol.com>, MadCow57
<madc...@aol.com> wrote:

Further, suicide is a mortal sin, which means that the decedent's soul

goes to hell. For some daft reason, some believers feel that a civil
finding of death by natural causes or the like relieves the soul of the
burden of the sin. No, it doesn't make sense to me either, but I
suspect the point is to relieve the survivors of having to worry about
it.

In modern times, I've often seen it assumed that a Catholic who killed
himself was not sane at the time he did it, and so was incapable of
forming the intention to commit a mortal sin. This would allow burial
in a Catholic cemetery. (I think I recall that a finding of suicide
precluded a requiem Mass, too, but it's been so long that I'm not
sure.)