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D. Arthur Rosenfield

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I've noticed in Brittish culture there is some sort of significance to
being a "Yogurt eater." I point out two specific instances:

-In Monty Python's Flying Circus, just before "hell's grannies" Eric
Idle is a newscaster caught eating yogurt off camera, and seems quite
embarrassed about it.

-In the Red Dwarf episode "Stasis Leak" Lister says: "Why do women
always leave me for total smegheads? Why do they dump me for men who
wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a pipe? I mean, natural yoghurt
eaters! Reliable, sensible, dependable, and lots of other words that
end in "-ible." He's obsessed with house-prices, and spends half his
life in antique fairs looking for bargains and drinking wine. It's
never beer, is it, it's always wine! "What do you want on your
cornflakes, darling?" "Oh, I'll have some wine, please!" Smeg!

Is it a class thing? Or a homosexual thing? I don't get it.

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Me Spadoink

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D. Arthur Rosenfield wrote, we think, but do not want to pin it on him
for fear of libel suits:

try standing backwards, holding your left armpit and pouring it in your
right ear. try to get the fruitless kind as they can plug .

please do not do this to your pet giraffe. allergies you know

D. Arthur Rosenfield

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Sailor Oceanus

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>In article <339ac80a...@news.itol.com>, "D. Arthur Rosenfield"
><jm...@course2.harvard.edu> writes

>Is it a class thing? Or a homosexual thing? I don't get it.

Yogurt a homosexual thing? Gosh, someone has some major prejudices
here... I suppose you think that all lesbians have pointy chins and own
cats... ^_^

Too bad yogurt *isn't* a homosexual thing:

if it was, I could be going out with my cute-but-straight friend Mike
(who LOVES yogurt) right now.

Next time please rethink your prejudices: yogurt is not a "homosexual
thing." Do you think only women and us gay guys buy yogurt? Puh-LEAZE.

- cheers -

Sailor Oceanus

D. Arthur Rosenfield

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On Sun, 08 Jun 1997 16:48:05 -0700, Sailor Oceanus
<darian@HA!pacbell.net> wrote:

>>In article <339ac80a...@news.itol.com>, "D. Arthur Rosenfield"

>><da...@rosenfield.org> writes


>>Is it a class thing? Or a homosexual thing? I don't get it.
>
>Yogurt a homosexual thing? Gosh, someone has some major prejudices
>here... I suppose you think that all lesbians have pointy chins and own
>cats... ^_^
>
>Too bad yogurt *isn't* a homosexual thing:
>
>if it was, I could be going out with my cute-but-straight friend Mike
>(who LOVES yogurt) right now.
>
>Next time please rethink your prejudices: yogurt is not a "homosexual
>thing." Do you think only women and us gay guys buy yogurt? Puh-LEAZE.

We're not talking about my views on homosexuals here. Simply the
Brittish perception thereof. Don't yell at me about it.

Phil Oliver

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On Sun, 08 Jun 1997 16:48:05 -0700, Sailor Oceanus
<darian@HA!pacbell.net> wrote:

>>In article <339ac80a...@news.itol.com>, "D. Arthur Rosenfield"

>><jm...@course2.harvard.edu> writes


>>Is it a class thing? Or a homosexual thing? I don't get it.
>
>Yogurt a homosexual thing? Gosh, someone has some major prejudices
>here... I suppose you think that all lesbians have pointy chins and own
>cats... ^_^
>
>Too bad yogurt *isn't* a homosexual thing:
>
>if it was, I could be going out with my cute-but-straight friend Mike
>(who LOVES yogurt) right now.
>
>Next time please rethink your prejudices: yogurt is not a "homosexual
>thing." Do you think only women and us gay guys buy yogurt? Puh-LEAZE.

I *really* hope this is a troll. Please?

-Phil Oliver

Echo

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wow! chill out, all he was saying is that there seems to be a wierd british
slang about being a yogart eater, and it seems to mean homosexual, taken in
context of the situations he discribed, i would have to agree that it gives
that impression, but that does not mean that any one is saying all yogart
eaters are gay.... sheesh, look "dude" if anyone needs to rethink
pregudices, look at yourself, you are increadable quick to think the worst
of people, and "assume" that they are intending harm or malic towards
you...i believe the word is Paranoid... take a prozak or something

by the way.... (and for people like our gay friend, who might think i am am
a racest, this is not ment to be a racest question.... well not a negative
sleering racest question anyway) if there is no such thing as revers
discrimination between blacks and whites, (ie blacks are not capble of
discriminating against white) how come they have there own music awards?
there own haritige day? what would happen if i was to hold the first anual
WHITE MUSIC AWARDS? or have a WHITE PRIDE MARCH?

ok, my rant is done....now on to posting....because everyone was so kind to
listen to this rant.....i am going to post a totally new, never before seen
on the net picture...how do i know? heehee, because i took the picture!
<grins> enjoy!


--
-Echo (don't send me an angel. I already have one)

I never | | When
Said | You try to pin him to the wall | Reality Bites
I could | you end up on the cieling | Use your
Spell | | Mace

Sailor Oceanus <darian@HA!pacbell.net> wrote in article
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> >In article <339ac80a...@news.itol.com>, "D. Arthur Rosenfield"
> ><jm...@course2.harvard.edu> writes
> >Is it a class thing? Or a homosexual thing? I don't get it.
>
> Yogurt a homosexual thing? Gosh, someone has some major prejudices
> here... I suppose you think that all lesbians have pointy chins and own
> cats... ^_^
>
> Too bad yogurt *isn't* a homosexual thing:
>
> if it was, I could be going out with my cute-but-straight friend Mike
> (who LOVES yogurt) right now.
>
> Next time please rethink your prejudices: yogurt is not a "homosexual
> thing." Do you think only women and us gay guys buy yogurt? Puh-LEAZE.
>

> - cheers -
>
> Sailor Oceanus
>

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Sailor Oceanus

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D. Arthur Rosenfield wrote:
>
> On Sun, 08 Jun 1997 16:48:05 -0700, Sailor Oceanus
> <darian@HA!pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >>In article <339ac80a...@news.itol.com>, "D. Arthur Rosenfield"
> >><da...@rosenfield.org> writes

> >>Is it a class thing? Or a homosexual thing? I don't get it.
> >
> >Yogurt a homosexual thing? Gosh, someone has some major prejudices
> >here... I suppose you think that all lesbians have pointy chins and own
> >cats... ^_^
> >
> >Too bad yogurt *isn't* a homosexual thing:
> >
> >if it was, I could be going out with my cute-but-straight friend Mike
> >(who LOVES yogurt) right now.
> >
> >Next time please rethink your prejudices: yogurt is not a "homosexual
> >thing." Do you think only women and us gay guys buy yogurt? Puh-LEAZE.
>
> We're not talking about my views on homosexuals here. Simply the
> Brittish perception thereof. Don't yell at me about it.

Well, if it wasn't your *own* view, then I apologize for jumping down
your throat, but nevertheless that sort of prejudice gets on my nerves
and I hate even seeing it mentioned in a newsgroup for people with good
taste (Red Dwarf), and I feel I have the right to "yell" at such
prejudices. Yogurt for gay guys... what do straight guys eat? Lots of
steak or something? :)

Echo

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oh by the way, i would like to apologies for the ude posting to anyone that
is offended. i haddn't noticed that it was crossed posted, and the NG i
read it in (fans-oksana-small tits) is a nude picture NG.... and to the
ones that are not offended.... your welcome!

son...@utdallas.edu

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Echo (echod...@wcinet.net) wrote:
> by the way.... (and for people like our gay friend, who might think i am am
> a racest, this is not ment to be a racest question.... well not a negative
> sleering racest question anyway) if there is no such thing as revers
> discrimination between blacks and whites, (ie blacks are not capble of
> discriminating against white) how come they have there own music awards?
> there own haritige day? what would happen if i was to hold the first anual
> WHITE MUSIC AWARDS? or have a WHITE PRIDE MARCH?

There's no "reverse" racism -- there's only racism. In my experience,
there are people of *all* creeds and color who are racists. Hell, *my*
parents are closet racists (although mild -- nonetheless, they're still
racists). And they're not even white. I'm glad I didn't follow suite.

And I agree, the "black" music awards are racist in and of themselves.
As for the heritage day . . . well, there's St. Patrick's day and the
like . . .

<snipped *large* encoded jpeg -- *that* was ANNOYING!>

--
"Somewhere else the tea's getting cold." -- The Doctor
"In science there is only physics; everything else is stamp collectiong."
--Ernest Rutherford
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Echo

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> oh get off your incredably high and mighty horse (or whatever it is you
are
> riding) just because you as a "gay male" and asian feel picked on does
not
> mean that you are more intitled to demonstraiting your "pride" in what
you
> are then anyone else. you are not more in NEED of that afermation than I
> am, I may be in just as uch need, as a white "MINORITY" yes i did say
> "MINORITY" in the inner city of LA where blacks, asian, and hespanic's
out
> number white so many to one that it is not even countable, of an
> affermantion that I am "good" and "Right" in what I am as anyone else.
now
> a little news flash... your saying that i do not need it? you are
therefor
> telling me how to live and cunduct my life, what I should eccept, and
what
> I should aspire to... all in the guise of being a minority expressing
> "feelings" you speak of what you cannot do, or have (gay marrage) because
> of what you are.... well every one has things in there life they wish
they
> could have and cannot.... what makes yours more importent then
mine....tell
> you what, when i can have more then one wife, i will vote for gay
> marrages... oh, and lets not even begine to call names, you see, my wife
is
> Bi, my elder brother is Gay, and my elder sister is married to one of the
> most respectable, fine upstanding Black Gentlemen I have ever met...
>
>


I had to send that early as my browser had a GPF and all it would let me do
was send (scratches head) anyway. I believe that everyone is equal, gay
str8, white black, brown, red, green....it doesn't matter to me. what does
matter is that you freaks (whatever color, or sexual alignment) that think
that every thing that every one says is a slerr...grow up, and examine just
how much you like yourself.... thank you

Sailor Oceanus

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D. Arthur Rosenfield wrote:
> Yes. And vindaloos! H:-) (OK, so my 'H' is crooked. Sue me.)
>
> Actually, I have no idea what gay or straight guys eat in England.
> Which ones eat "Spotted Dick?"

*heehee* I'm too tempted to say it, but I won't... ^_^

- cheers -

Sailor Oceanus :)

Sailor Oceanus

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Echo wrote:
>
> oh get off your incredably high and mighty horse (or whatever it is you are
> riding) just because you as a "gay male" and asian feel picked on does not
> mean that you are more intitled to demonstraiting your "pride" in what you
> are then anyone else. you are not more in NEED of that afermation than I
> am, I may be in just as uch need, as a white "MINORITY" yes i did say
> "MINORITY" in the inner city of LA where blacks, asian, and hespanic's out
> number white so many to one that it is not even countable, of an
> affermantion that I am "good" and "Right" in what I am as anyone else.

Uhm, listen: I wasn't looking for pity because I feel "picked on." I
was pointing out that gays, as well as blacks, still experience
discrimination while straights and whites do not. If you cannot accept
that plain and simple fact then all we can do is agree to differ. I
won't waste my typing on someone who won't see the truth under his nose.

You say that whites are a minority where you live in LA, and that is
true. However, just because you are the minority in a certain area of
the country doesn't automatically imply that you are being discriminated
against. Unlike the non-whites of LA, YOU as a white person can travel
in Rhode Island or Georgia without being stared at. As a straight man
YOU can hold hands with your partner in public LA without fear of
physical abuse.

And like I said in my last message, you are perfectly welcome to hold a
straight pride march or a white pride march for all I care. That's the
absolute beauty of the First Amendment. However, I was just saying that
nearly all whites and certainly all straights are not discriminated
against, and if they are discriminated against they are never subject to
the extent and level of hate nonwhites and nonstraights are. My point
is that straights and whites are the most privileged people in America.
Although whites and straight can of course hold a pride march if they
wish, why do they feel a need to have such a march when they start life
armed with the weapons of privilege?

> now
> a little news flash... your saying that i do not need it? you are therefor
> telling me how to live and cunduct my life, what I should eccept, and what
> I should aspire to...

Not quite, dear. I said in my previous message that you can do whatever
you wish since there is an Awesome Thing called the First Amendment. I
was just raising the *question* of how straights and whites could feel
the same need that nonwhites and nonstraights do to reaffirm their pride
in themselves.

> you speak of what you cannot do, or have (gay marrage) because
> of what you are.... well every one has things in there life they wish they
> could have and cannot.... what makes yours more importent then mine....tell
> you what, when i can have more then one wife, i will vote for gay
> marrages...

You are comparing polygamy to gay marriage? Ever heard of apples and
oranges? The reason gay marriage is not legalized is because of
discrimination, pure and simple. Politicians say that they are looking
out for family values, but I don't buy that. There are so many loveless
hetero marriages that I can't see why loving gay marriages can't be
legalized.

Polygamy is not legal is because it is sexist: if polygamy was legal
then polyandry should be made legal as well. And besides being sexist,
polygamy is also biologically undesirable: by allowing one person to
spread their genes so widely, the gene pool becomes less diversified and
the human race becomes more vulnerable to trauma.

> lets not even begine to call names, you see, my wife is
> Bi, my elder brother is Gay, and my elder sister is married to one of the
> most respectable, fine upstanding Black Gentlemen I have ever met...

And obviously, you prove that you can still be unaware on certain issues
even though you are good friends with such people.

Sailor Oceanus

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- cheers -

Sailor Oceanus :)

Sailor Oceanus

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- cheers -

Sailor Oceanus

Matt Brooks

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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 02:05:40 GMT, D. Arthur Rosenfield (da...@rosenfield.org) wrote:
:
: Actually, I have no idea what gay or straight guys eat in England.

: Which ones eat "Spotted Dick?"

All Englishmen eat Spotted Dick. Personally, I like it thick and hot,
with cream on it.

Matt

Sailor Oceanus

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Echo wrote:
>
> I had to send that early as my browser had a GPF and all it would let me do
> was send (scratches head) anyway. I believe that everyone is equal, gay
> str8, white black, brown, red, green....it doesn't matter to me. what does
> matter is that you freaks (whatever color, or sexual alignment) that think
> that every thing that every one says is a slerr...

Everyone is equal except the freaks? That's nice.

And no, I don't consider "everything that everyone says" as being a
slur. (By the way your spelling is atrocious.) I never said that the
misconception that gay men eat yogurt is a "slur." But that doesn't
mean that it isn't a misconception.

> grow up, and examine just how much you like yourself.... thank you

Excuse me? You're the one who sent a flame down my throat in the first
place, you're the one who's using the put downs, you're the one who's
calling people freaks, and you're the one who told me to "Get off your
high horse or whatever it is you're riding" and *I'm* the one who needs
to learn to like himself? I don't think so, dear. And the fact that
you have yet to answer my rebuttal to your latest flame merely confirms
my suspicions.

Sailor Oceanus

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Thumper wrote:
>
> In actuality, no particular group NEEDS to have any kind of march or
> awards shows......they WANT to have one in order to be recognized and
> are self-serving...

Exactly. They're self serving. If you're a gay person and were told
all your life that being gay is wrong, an abomination, a phase, illegal,
etc. etc. you're DAMN RIGHT we'd want a "self-serving" march in order to
affirm our pride in who we are.

> and are you THAT naive???.....whites WITH MONEY
> dominate the awards shows...that leaves the other 96% of white America

Agreed. But in many ways that 96% of Americans have the advantage over
all the nonwhites "WITH MONEY".

> Is a gay pride march going to stop gays from getting beat up?
> Is a gay pride march going to break down the barriers that prevent
> same-sex marriages?

Well duh, of course not. The point of gay pride marches are to come
together as a group and give each other support.

> Is a black awards show going to end racism?

See above.

> Yes, the First Amendment guarantees the right of peaceful assembly, but
> you can't be so stupid as to believe that anybody who would present a
> "White" Awards Ceremony would not be blasted in the press and hounded by
> civil rights groups for such a 'politically incorrect' faux pas.

I never said the press wouldn't hound them; it's only obvious that the
press will hound a white awards ceremony. I only said that *I*
personally would not mind/care if you held such a ceremony.

> But the worst reaction I have to your missive as that I get the
> impression that you don't believe either gays or blacks are capable of
> prejudice or racism themselves......if that is the case then you are a
> pinhead.......And the Black Music Awards is about MONEY and talent,
> don't be fooled.....

Quite obviously you haven't read my posts thoroughly. In a previous
post I write: "Everyone is discriminated against, and everybody
discriminates. But that does not alter the plain fact that whites and
straights do not experience the level of hate and discrimination that
nonwhites and nonstraights do."

Please read more thoroughly before calling people pinheads. :)

> I wish you guys would get a clue....'white/straight' America is, in
> reality, the 4% of white America with 97% of the wealth and thus POWER,
> whereas the rest of us may not agree with them but we don't have the
> power to dominate shit, you bozo.

Well, I'm glad that name-callers don't have the power to dominate.

You say that the 96% of whites without money don't have the power to
dominate shit. However true that may be, any white person can travel
through Rhode Island and Georgia without receiving dirty looks and
stares, the way I as an Asian was looked at and the way my
African-American friends were looked at. You won't have racist insults
thrown at you at least once every two months, the way I do as an Asian,
even though I live in the supposedly forward thinking California Bay
Area. Think on that for moment.

Rob Davidson

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>
>There's no "reverse" racism -- there's only racism. In my experience,
>there are people of *all* creeds and color who are racists. Hell, *my*
>parents are closet racists (although mild -- nonetheless, they're still
>racists).

>-Ernest Rutherford

After reading your post both me and my wife and the little ones were
appalled that people would sink so low as to be against closets. I
mean what would have become of France if it Winston Churchill had to
worry about where to hang his overcoat? Where would Poland be if
Walesa had no place to hang his smock! The security of one's outerwear
has played an incalculatable role in the development and preservation
of modern democracy and all the values we all hold dear.
OH what is the world coming to!

Rob Davidson AKA
Nailed to the Perch
Minister responsible for Pining for the Fiords

Echo

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greetings:

( I wish I could write half as well as Mr. Powell but as I cannot... well
no matter, I can still say what I have to say...)

>Uhm, listen: I wasn't looking for pity because I feel "picked on." I
>was pointing out that gays, as well as blacks, still experience
>discrimination while straights and whites do not.

Trully? well then you live in a different America than I do, I have been
Discriminated against because I am white, and because I am str8. Do I say
that all gays/non-whites discriminate? NO. do I say all whites/str8s are
discriminated aganst? NO i say only that it happens... I once heard a judge
say "when you tell one lie, it becomes difficult to ever believe you
again..." well in my eyes you have not so much lied, but prooven your hyper
active paranoia of others opinions. either way, it still discredits you...

>You say that whites are a minority where you live in LA, and that is
>true. However, just because you are the minority in a certain area of
>the country doesn't automatically imply that you are being discriminated
>against. Unlike the non-whites of LA, YOU as a white person can travel
>in Rhode Island or Georgia without being stared at.

maybe you are right, BUT i wouldn;t go into vennice, or the south side...
why? well because I am white... i probably would not get strange looks....
i would just get jumpped.... this may not be discrimination, but dead is
dead, regardless of the reason....

nor would i feel comfortable going into some areas of SF while holding my
wifes hand (that is unless her girlfriend is with us.... :)

>As a straight man YOU can hold hands with your partner in public LA
without fear of
>physical abuse.

hmmm, my wife never had much problem with that, but then again, she never
cared (and this is key) what people think, if they don't like what she
does, they should not do it...

>And like I said in my last message, you are perfectly welcome to hold a
>straight pride march or a white pride march for all I care. That's the
>absolute beauty of the First Amendment.

oh give me a break, if I really did feel such a need, are you saying that
there wouldn't be a huge protest? go ahaid, say it, and disscredit yourself
even further...

>However, I was just saying that nearly all whites and certainly all
straights are not discriminated

>against...

how could you as an asian gay man, know if I am discriminated against? you
have not walked in my shoes.... you have not lived my life... to say that
ABSOLUTELY no str8 white men are discriminated against is the same as
saying that akk gays are going to die of aids..... it is proposterius (god
how i hack up the spelling!!! :) that is the grossest generalization I have
ever heard!

>and if they are discriminated against they are never subject to
>the extent and level of hate nonwhites and nonstraights are.

well thats the first open minded thing you have said so far... and i will
agree with that one...we are not so pleaged with hardship as no whites are
nor near as many and gays are....


>My point is that straights and whites are the most privileged people in
America.

that really all depends on what you concider a privilage

>Although whites and straight can of course hold a pride march if they
>wish, why do they feel a need to have such a march when they start life
>armed with the weapons of privilege?

all i was armed with when I was born was a pecker, and you (assumidly) got
one too...

>> now
>> a little news flash... your saying that i do not need it? you are
therefor
>> telling me how to live and cunduct my life, what I should eccept, and
what
>> I should aspire to...

>Not quite, dear. I said in my previous message that you can do whatever
>you wish since there is an Awesome Thing called the First Amendment. I
>was just raising the *question* of how straights and whites could feel
>the same need that nonwhites and nonstraights do to reaffirm their pride
>in themselves.

is it really pride that you need to reaferm, or worth?


>> you speak of what you cannot do, or have (gay marrage) because
>> of what you are.... well every one has things in there life they wish
they
>> could have and cannot.... what makes yours more importent then
mine....tell
>> you what, when i can have more then one wife, i will vote for gay
>> marrages...

>You are comparing polygamy to gay marriage? Ever heard of apples and
>oranges? The reason gay marriage is not legalized is because of
>discrimination, pure and simple. Politicians say that they are looking
>out for family values, but I don't buy that. There are so many loveless
>hetero marriages that I can't see why loving gay marriages can't be
>legalized.

I think i will leave this to Mr.Powell, as he said it best...

>Polygamy is not legal is because it is sexist:

exactly how is it sexist? if all partys are inclined? and if this is what
they want (hmm, was that redundent?) then by the creed of your own people
(gay i mean) who is to judge? who is to say that it is not "natural?"
after all, most animanls do it. doesn't that mean that we are born with the
"need" is it not then inharent? are not you as a gay man, born with your
homosexuality? are you not as an asain born with your race? is not all that
you are? part of you since birth? I can say too that I was born with the
need, drive, instinct to have a harrem like the mighty lion, or garrilla
<eeek one of these days i WILL learn to spell) I can say then that it is my
right to do as i wish, who is to say what is moral and is not? if i am not
hurting anyone... then whats the harm? i am not forcing my harem to stay.
any more then you were forced to be gay. (by he way, I do have more then
one "wife" I have a Wife and a lover, that live in the same home. they love
each other, and they love me, and i love them both equally... but I canot
leagally marry my "lover" so she cannot have anymore benifits then your
"lover" can.... so i guess we are both fighting for the same rights... HUH?

>if polygamy was legal then polyandry should be made legal as well.

hmmm, OK... if thats what it takes, but I daresay that fewer women would
have more then one husband, as women as a _general rule_ (note I did not
say as you would tend towards "all Women") do not desire more then one male
husband.... but then again most women as a general rule do not wish there
husband to have more then one wife, but then again as a general rule most
men do not want to marry men, nor women women, in other words "dear" a
small group wants something that a large group does not want to give them
or allow....is this not the apidamy of what you call discrimination?

And besides being sexist, polygamy is also biologically undesirable: by
allowing one person to
>spread their genes so widely, the gene pool becomes less diversified and
>the human race becomes more vulnerable to trauma.

hmm, at least they ARE spreading there gene's i dare say that you are in no
danger of that <sorry, you DID ask for that one>


>> lets not even begine to call names, you see, my wife is
>> Bi, my elder brother is Gay, and my elder sister is married to one of
the
>> most respectable, fine upstanding Black Gentlemen I have ever met...

>And obviously, you prove that you can still be unaware on certain issues
>even though you are good friends with such people.

no actualy it proves i have a vantage point that gives me the ability to
make my own opinion on the subject....

anyway... isn't it odd that all this started because I ask how people what
they thought would happen is a str8/white person would try to hold a white
music awards or str8 pride march? in other words i had only asked "WHAT
IF?!?!"

so sailor moon... you have jumped on one str8/(presumably white) male for
asking IF there was a gay referrence to something/ and anouther str8/white
man for asking "WHAT IF" do you not now see a trend to paranoia?
hypersensitivity?

think about it...

Thumper

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Sailor Oceanus wrote:
>
> Thumper wrote:
> >
> > In actuality, no particular group NEEDS to have any kind of march or
> > awards shows......they WANT to have one in order to be recognized and
> > are self-serving...
>
> Exactly. They're self serving. If you're a gay person and were told
> all your life that being gay is wrong, an abomination, a phase, illegal,
> etc. etc. you're DAMN RIGHT we'd want a "self-serving" march in order to
> affirm our pride in who we are.

Perhaps you may be right...I haven't been through that...I have enough
problems being heterosexual.

>
> > and are you THAT naive???.....whites WITH MONEY
> > dominate the awards shows...that leaves the other 96% of white America
>
> Agreed. But in many ways that 96% of Americans have the advantage over
> all the nonwhites "WITH MONEY".

O.K., I'll even buy that without making you explain how..........


>
> > Is a gay pride march going to stop gays from getting beat up?
> > Is a gay pride march going to break down the barriers that prevent
> > same-sex marriages?
>
> Well duh, of course not.

You do seem singularly sensitive to being called a bozo for one who
implies stupidity with your "well, duh" and "PUL-leaze".


>

>
>
Quite obviously you haven't read my posts thoroughly. In a previous
> post I write: "Everyone is discriminated against, and everybody
> discriminates. But that does not alter the plain fact that whites and
> straights do not experience the level of hate and discrimination that
> nonwhites and nonstraights do."

Granted.


>
> Please read more thoroughly before calling people pinheads. :)

Evidently, you need to read more thoroughly....I said 'if that is the
case then you are a pinhead.' Was that the case?

>
> Well, I'm glad that name-callers don't have the power to dominate.

Where were you during the last Presidential election?? They elect name
callers every four years. And usually one gets over name calling in
grade school...perhaps you need counseling.


I apologize for calling you a bozo and perhaps I haven't endured as much
hardship as you....however, you cannot presume to know all the answers
if you blatantly disregard others opinions....my dear Sailor, we cannot
in our most extravagant dreams expect life to be fair and we cannot
conquer all.......

So we must rise above it and endure.

Think about that for a lifetime.
>
> - cheers -
>
> Thumper

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