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Robert P. Beveridge

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:57:56 +1200, George Gosset <Joo...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>So how wide is discussion here (given obvious overlaps with other
>groups) ?

We've become alt.merzbow-and-aube, mostly, but it wasn't always like
this. (I confess to being part of that, with my
ever-since-putting-in-my-order-June-30 "all hail Merzbox!" sporadic
posts...)

>Xenakis ?

I consider it a great failing on my part that I have yet to hear
Xenakis. Got a good starting point?

>Rock (Fushitsusha) ?

There ya go, you lot, noise/pop!

Rev.Goat

Rev. Matthew A. Carey

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:57:56 +1200, George Gosset <Joo...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>So how wide is discussion here (given obvious overlaps with other
>groups) ?

>Xenakis ? Schoenberg ?
>Cecil Taylor ? current "free jazz/improv" ?
>Rock (Fushitsusha) ? Enviroments/installations ? Process ? Minimalist ?
>Electro-acoustic ?
>Fuzz guitar, pshychedelica, feedback, free-for-all ?
>


As lord almighty of this newgroup, I give you and you alone permission
to post on all of these subjects.


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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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>So how wide is discussion here (given obvious overlaps with other
>groups) ?
>Xenakis ? Schoenberg ?
>Cecil Taylor ? current "free jazz/improv" ?
>Rock (Fushitsusha) ? Enviroments/installations ? Process ? Minimalist ?
>Electro-acoustic ?
>Fuzz guitar, pshychedelica, feedback, free-for-all ?
>
>

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Stig Mathausen

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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George Gosset wrote:
>
> So how wide is discussion here (given obvious overlaps with other
> groups) ?
> Xenakis ? Schoenberg ?
> Cecil Taylor ? current "free jazz/improv" ?
> Rock (Fushitsusha) ? Enviroments/installations ? Process ? Minimalist ?
> Electro-acoustic ?
> Fuzz guitar, pshychedelica, feedback, free-for-all ?
>

I'd say of the above, psych, fuzz, & rock would be out - too conventional.
Minimalism, only if particularily abrasive, methinks.

And as for serious/classical types, why not? I think hearing Ligeti's work
during the "psychedelic voyage" segment of "2001" as a kid might have primed
me for the harsh noise sound early on...

George Gosset

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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So how wide is discussion here (given obvious overlaps with other
groups) ?
Xenakis ? Schoenberg ?
Cecil Taylor ? current "free jazz/improv" ?
Rock (Fushitsusha) ? Enviroments/installations ? Process ? Minimalist ?
Electro-acoustic ?
Fuzz guitar, pshychedelica, feedback, free-for-all ?

George Gosset
Joqo...@xtra.co.nz
( ^ unwanted 'queue' to e-mail slice)

Colin Pascal

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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Stig Mathausen (tro...@istar.ca) writes:
> And as for serious/classical types, why not? I think hearing Ligeti's work
> during the "psychedelic voyage" segment of "2001" as a kid might have primed
> me for the harsh noise sound early on...

Or how about most of Eraserhead? :) That's what got me. The soundtrack
rocks.

Colin.

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till we finally realize that everything that gives us pleasure also gives
us pain to measure it by, and in order to survive. All our lives we love
illusion, neatly caught between confusion and the need to know we are alive.

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Stig Mathausen

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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Colin Pascal wrote:
>
> Stig Mathausen (tro...@istar.ca) writes:
> > And as for serious/classical types, why not? I think hearing Ligeti's work
> > during the "psychedelic voyage" segment of "2001" as a kid might have primed
> > me for the harsh noise sound early on...
>
> Or how about most of Eraserhead? :) That's what got me. The soundtrack
> rocks.
>

Fair 'nuff too. Is there an actual soundtrack for this?

Erik Hoffman

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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There is a soundtrack available for "Eraserhead". I have only seen the
vinyl. Don't know if there is a CD version. I think it is pretty hard
to find these days.

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Kevin J. O'Conner / Tinty Music

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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> There is a soundtrack available for "Eraserhead". I have only seen the
> vinyl. Don't know if there is a CD version. I think it is pretty hard
> to find these days.

I can confirm this. I haven't seen it in the shops for a while (admittedly, I haven't
been checking) but there is definitely a CD version.

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Colin Pascal

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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Stig Mathausen (trop...@istar.ca) writes:
> Fair 'nuff too. Is there an actual soundtrack for this?

Yep. I have the promo LP with the picture of the baby. I highly
reccomend it, but I don't know where it's available.

Stig Mathausen

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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Colin Pascal wrote:
>
> Stig Mathausen (trop...@istar.ca) writes:
> > Fair 'nuff too. Is there an actual soundtrack for this?
>
> Yep. I have the promo LP with the picture of the baby. I highly
> reccomend it, but I don't know where it's available.
>

I'll have to hit you up for a dub - you live in Ottawa too, I assume?

Mason Jones

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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Erik Hoffman <lo...@earthlink.net> wrote:

: There is a soundtrack available for "Eraserhead". I have only seen the

: vinyl. Don't know if there is a CD version. I think it is pretty hard
: to find these days.

Yeah, there's a CD version, I've got it. Don't know how hard it is
to find now. Definitely worthwhile, though.


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dave milsom

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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Brent Bruni Comiskey wrote:
>blah blah blah blah...
>
> Also females who make noise.

There's a joke there somewhere, but i'm just too damn tired..

toddlike

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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For a first time-Xenakis I reccomend "Krannerg"- it's pretty widely
available, and fairly "noisy" (though I wouldn't condier it noise...)


Robert P. Beveridge wrote in message <353ccb2a...@news.csuohio.edu>...


>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:57:56 +1200, George Gosset <Joo...@xtra.co.nz>
>wrote:
>

>>So how wide is discussion here (given obvious overlaps with other
>>groups) ?
>

J Wrench

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:34:40 -0700, "Kevin J. O'Conner / Tinty Music"
<tntm...@halcyon.com> wrote:
> if there is a CD version. I think it is pretty hard
>> to find these days.
>
>I can confirm this. I haven't seen it in the shops for a while (admittedly, I haven't
>been checking) but there is definitely a CD version.

It wasn't recently, but I bought my copy on CD at the freakin mall. It
was on IRS, distributed by A&M.


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thom bruner

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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Stig Mathausen wrote:
> Colin Pascal wrote:
> > Or how about most of Eraserhead? :) That's what got me. The soundtrack
> > rocks.
> Fair 'nuff too. Is there an actual soundtrack for this?

Absolutely. I believe it was released in vinyl and compact disc format
circa 1989(?). The CD, released on PGD/A&M/IRS, is readily available
from what I can tell. Try checking at CDNOW (www.cdnow.com) for a decent
starting place. Highly recommended for those who dig "bloop-bloopy",
droney soundtrack compositions. Nice.

thom.

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