You will.

[Rev. Matthew A. Carey]

On Wed, 06 May 1998 08:31:56 GMT, e/wb...@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)
wrote:

>In article <354e4dc5...@news.humboldt1.com>, ca...@humboldt1.com wrote:
>
>> http://members.aol.com/Video157/tooCOOL.html
>>
>> works for me. I backed up and found .W.O.N. and was wondering about
>this noise thing. Is this a "tradition" in the spirit of Cage, Subotnic,
>etc... or is this a new take?

This noise thing is in no particular tradition. Anytime someone says
something that tries to define noise, a bunch of other people pipe up
and say "nonononononono!!!" It's great.

Read alt.noise and look at all the webpages and order tapes from
people and shit. You'll get sucked in like nobody's business.

> Back in the days of 4 track cassette (and
>long before the net) I had this idea for doing a track, then sending it
>down the line (via the international free press ads) and seeing what came
>back. Never did get off the ground... too busy with other stuff. How are
>you chaps working this? Tapes, samplers, Wav?

Personally I use whatever I can get my hands on. I'm sure a lot of
people are using computers nowadays. Mine's not fast enough. How
many people are using 4-tracks?

>Wouldn't mind kicking in a
>little now and then... got lots of stuff on casette I can sample... will
>need a working copy of sound-edit-pro, or something though... my 68000
>version (unlicenced) Of SEP is dead... won't run on ...wait a minute! I
>still have the old Mac... wife's using it. We may be in business!!

Well, send me tapes.

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[Shoegaze99]

ca...@humboldt1.com (Rev. Matthew A. Carey) writes:
>
>On Wed, 06 May 1998 08:31:56 GMT, e/wb...@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <354e4dc5...@news.humboldt1.com>, ca...@humboldt1.com wrote:
>
>> Back in the days of 4 track cassette (and
>>long before the net) I had this idea for doing a track, then sending it
>>down the line (via the international free press ads) and seeing what came
>>back. Never did get off the ground... too busy with other stuff. How are
>>you chaps working this? Tapes, samplers, Wav?
>
>Personally I use whatever I can get my hands on. I'm sure a lot of
>people are using computers nowadays. Mine's not fast enough. How
>many people are using 4-tracks?

About 90% of my recording is done on a 4-track. I occasionaly
do boombox recordings when I don't feel like setting up the
4-track (I record all of my drone/noise/shoegaze bands rehearsals
that way), but the more serious stuff is usually 4-track done. I
only really use the PC for mastering and noise reduction
purposes.

Sometimes I will record to boombox (it's actually a high quality
AIWA analog tape deck, but the name boombox always
seems to stick with me) and then run that into the 4-track for
overdubs if I like what I hear. That seems to be the best of
both worlds, though generational loss is a consideration.

np: My Bloody Valentine - I Only Said
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Travi...@aol.com to Shoeg...@aol.com
98-05-04 23:19:20 EDT:

"You piece of shit!"

[sa...@prairienet.org]

In article <355024f0...@news.humboldt1.com>#1/1,

ca...@humboldt1.com wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 1998 08:31:56 GMT, e/wb...@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)
> wrote:
> > Back in the days of 4 track cassette (and
> >long before the net) I had this idea for doing a track, then sending it
> >down the line (via the international free press ads) and seeing what came
> >back. Never did get off the ground... too busy with other stuff. How are
> >you chaps working this? Tapes, samplers, Wav?
>
> Personally I use whatever I can get my hands on. I'm sure a lot of
> people are using computers nowadays. Mine's not fast enough. How
> many people are using 4-tracks?

I am still using a Tascam PortaStudio 4-track for most of my
"at home" experimentation. It's a lot easier than using the
computer in a lot of ways, and besides... analog noise always
sounds so much warmer than digital.

(with the exception of "IBM" by Throbbing Gristle, but even
then it was recorded onto analog tape.)

- st. andreux

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[Aaron Tenney]

<<snip>>

> <<bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla blalb>> I

> only really use the PC for mastering and noise reduction
> purposes.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Does this mean you erase the entire track?

[Shoegaze99]

Aaron Tenney <sup...@iescrow.com> writes:

>> only really use the PC for mastering and noise reduction
>> purposes.
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Does this mean you erase the entire track?

DOH!! Hahaha, good point. No, what I do is filter out the
tape hiss if I am going to burn some of my work to CD. Seeing
as I rarely (well, never) burn my noise pieces to disc, no worry.
My more My Bloody Valentine inspired material is all I usually
burn to disc, with the exception of the musical project that is
currently taking up all of my time, the drone/noise/shoegaze
stuff of Slumbersigh.

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"After reviewing an abridged catalog of your usenet performance…I must admit
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[Thomas Christiansen]

Aaron Tenney wrote:

> > use the PC for mastering and noise reduction purposes.

> Does this mean you erase the entire track?

it's really fun to sample some Merzbow/Masonna/whatever in Cool Edit and
then put noise-reduction on it :) ...the track is not erased, it becomes
more like, eh, hm, computer-buble-canned, ehm or something, not harsh,
but it sounds cool, I can't explain it, just try it :)

ThomasC

[Stig Mathausen]

Shoegaze99 wrote:
>
> My more My Bloody Valentine inspired material is all I usually
> burn to disc, with the exception of the musical project that is
> currently taking up all of my time, the drone/noise/shoegaze
> stuff of Slumbersigh.
>

Do you plan to release any of this stuff soon? Noise and shoegaze/dreampop
are my primary listening (along with Indian classical/ghazals and early Kraut
space/prog) and I'd be interested in hearing how you combine 'em (although
certainly early JaMC, MBV, and occasionally stuff like Loveliescrushing skirt
that territory...).