Noise Classics
Sean T. Casey
I'm not all too familiar with the evolution of noise, and
was wondering what people hold up as classic noise albums?
Any info appreciated,
Sean
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Colin Pascal
I think Hanatarash 3, Incapacitants "Feedback Of NMS", and Hijokaiden's
"Tapes" count. Of course, these are still comparitively recent. There is
apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
likely never see it in your life.
Colin.
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Colin Pascal wrote:
>
> Sean T. Casey (Sean_...@Brown.edu) writes:
> > I'm not all too familiar with the evolution of noise, and
> > was wondering what people hold up as classic noise albums?
> >
> > Any info appreciated,
> > Sean
>
> I think Hanatarash 3, Incapacitants "Feedback Of NMS", and Hijokaiden's
> "Tapes" count. Of course, these are still comparitively recent. There is
> apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
> likely never see it in your life.
>
I'd love to know what some of them are, if anyone can make reccommendations!
Some old "academic" recordings are truly fucked up.
Anyway. Going back a ways, TG's "Second Annual Report", NON/BR's "Black Album"
& PHysical Evidence", and SPK's "information Overload Unit" are pop-era
classics y'all should have. Some might add Whitehouse's "Erector" here, but
I'd wait until "Thank Your Lucky Stars" before considering awarding any WH disc
"classic" status myself.
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Stig Mathausen wrote:
> Colin Pascal wrote:
> >
>
> Anyway. Going back a ways, TG's "Second Annual Report", NON/BR's "Black Album"
I'd say that "Blood & Flame" by Non is the magnum opus. IMO.
> & PHysical Evidence", and SPK's "information Overload Unit" are pop-era
> classics y'all should have. Some might add Whitehouse's "Erector" here, but
> I'd wait until "Thank Your Lucky Stars" before considering awarding any WH disc
> "classic" status myself.
>
>
/virtus/
Robert P. Beveridge
On 29 Apr 1998 20:24:34 GMT, at...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin Pascal)
wrote:
>I think Hanatarash 3, Incapacitants "Feedback Of NMS", and Hijokaiden's
>"Tapes" count. Of course, these are still comparitively recent. There is
>apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
>likely never see it in your life.
Noise classics? The complete works of Shostakovich and Stockhausen.
Rev.Goat
Rev. Matthew A. Carey
>Noise classics? The complete works of Shostakovich and Stockhausen.
>
>Rev.Goat
Hey, what stockhausen recordings are interesting or good to check out.
I'm sure there's a few LPs at the hsu library.
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Rev. Matthew A. Carey wrote:
> Hey, what stockhausen recordings are interesting or good to check out.
> I'm sure there's a few LPs at the hsu library.
Definitely check out _Hymnen_ - composed with (entirely with? i forget)
shortwave radios.
And _Kontakt_ is good as well, and probably easier to find.
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Stig Mathausen
Robert P. Beveridge wrote:
>
> On 29 Apr 1998 20:24:34 GMT, at...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin Pascal)
> wrote:
>
> >I think Hanatarash 3, Incapacitants "Feedback Of NMS", and Hijokaiden's
> >"Tapes" count. Of course, these are still comparitively recent. There is
> >apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
> >likely never see it in your life.
>
>
And, of course, "Metal Machine Music" - the first nonacademic all-out foray into
noise I'm aware of.
Joshua Houk
foe wrote:
> Nope in Hymnen there's voice and music. Maybe there's some shortwave
> radio but i'm not aware of!
Well, that's what I get for recommending an album I last heard five years
ago! :)
I do remeber that it is quite good, at least. Maybe it's just a piece on the
first side (of four) that uses shortwave radios? I distinctly remember
playing thirty minutes of _Hymnen_ on the last show I did at the college
station I goofed off at... and I was pretty sure that was the one. Ah well...
Chris Sienko
Joshua Houk wrote:
>
> Rev. Matthew A. Carey wrote:
>
> > Hey, what stockhausen recordings are interesting or good to check out.
> > I'm sure there's a few LPs at the hsu library.
>
> Definitely check out _Hymnen_ - composed with (entirely with? i forget)
> shortwave radios.
>
> And _Kontakt_ is good as well, and probably easier to find.
>
> joshua h
_Kontakte_ has been recently re-recorded featuring (among others) avant
garde man of the hour William Winant (who did some percussion on the
second Mr. Bungle album, was responsible for the "Drone" in Terry
Riley's 25th anniversary presentation of _In C_, and many other things)
on percussion. It's a piece for, I think, prerecorded tape (electronic
sounds cut up) and percussion made of wood, metal and rubber, plus other
things. It's on th Ecstatic Peace label. Haven't heard the new one; I
dubbed a copy of the original Deutsch Grammaphone recording from a local
library. I'm told the new one's pretty vibrant. (my dubs sound like
poop)
Also great pieces for the chaos lover in you (much harder to find, I'm
guessing) are _Gesang Der Junglinge_ (all electronic) and _Kurzwellen_
(instrumentation includes tom toms, pianos, electric violas and lots of
shortwaves.) _Gesang_ is truly amazing and is most highly recommended.
_Kurzwellen_ is a double album and can get wearing after a while. Both
were on Deutsch Grammaphone in the 60s. Dunno if they've been reissued.
-Chris
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Mason Jones
Interesting question, what are the noise classics...
Off the top of my head:
SPK "Information Overload Unit"
Throbbing Gristle "Heathen Earth"
Non "Blood & Flame"
Haters "Totimorphous"
Master/Slave Relationship "This Lubricious Love"
Merzbow "Material Action 2"
Masonna "Shinsen na Clitoris"
Hijokaidan "Windom"
Incapacitants "Repo"
V/A "Three Temples" cassette
V/A "The Final Unsound" cassette w/magazine
V/A "Noise Forest"
I'll actually have to look back through some of my cassette collection to
pick the ones that in retrospect seem most influential. That'd be
interesting.
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Soddy
> I'm not all too familiar with the evolution of noise, and
> was wondering what people hold up as classic noise albums?
"Classic noise albums" can be interpreted at least two ways:
1) evolution of noise
2) development of noise as noise
And a few more besides. I think 2) would be more useful for the
average noisehead.
These get my vote:
The Nihilist Spasm Band - No Record (Allied)
Hijokaidan - Modern (Alchemy)
Incapacitants - Feedback of NMS (Alchemy)
Merzbow - Pornoise (ZF Produkt)
Borbetomagus/Voice Crack - Fish that Sparkling Bubble (Agaric)
Controlled Bleeding - Knees & Bones (Psychout)
The New Blockaders/Organum - Pulp (Aeroplane)
The Hanatarash - 2 (Alchemy)
Masonna - Shinsen na clitoris (Vanilla)
CCCC - Cosmic Coincidence Control Center (Endorphine Factory)
NWW/Whitehouse - The 150 Murderous Passions (Come Org)
Mauthuasan Orchestra - Mauthausan Orchestra (Broken Flag)
Mnemonist - Mnemonist Orchestra (Dys)
Vivenza - Machines (Electro Institute)
Macronympha - Physical Chaos (MSNP)
AMM - AMMusic (Matchless)
Krang - Krang (Freudwerk)
NON - The Black Album (Mute)
Nord - Nord (Pinakotheco)
sodomy non sapiens,
Jason
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Colin Pascal
Soddy (yu11...@yorku.ca) writes:
> "I hate Bordoms!
> Fuck! John Zone!
> Death! All avantgarde Artists!
> I am king of Noise!!
> -- Jojo Hiroshige/Hijokaidan
That's the kind of sassiness that noise is built on.
Shoegaze99
at...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin Pascal) writes:
>
>Soddy (yu11...@yorku.ca) writes:
>> "I hate Bordoms!
>> Fuck! John Zone!
>> Death! All avantgarde Artists!
>> I am king of Noise!!
>> -- Jojo Hiroshige/Hijokaidan
>
>That's the kind of sassiness that noise is built on.
Yes, but is it art?
np: Yo La Tengo - Alyda
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>
>I think Hanatarash 3, Incapacitants "Feedback Of NMS", and Hijokaiden's
>"Tapes" count. Of course, these are still comparitively recent. There is
>apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
>likely never see it in your life.
Except for AMM "The Crypt 1968", an essential 2CD set.
Gaz.
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DTohir
> There is
>>apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
>>likely never see it in your life.
>
>
>Except for AMM "The Crypt 1968", an essential 2CD set.
And the even better AMMusic 1966
George Gosset
> There is
> apparently a lot of obscure 60s/70s stuff out there, but you'll most
> likely never see it in your life.
Well it involves research, discussion. Most of this obscure material is
available off this network you're using from most online CD outlets. Of
course forced exposure is doing a great job of locating some of the more
difficult to obtain non-domestic material, thanks to them now also on
the web. There are otheer specialist stores out there that you can still
write to.
Anybody who buys based on availablity in hypothetical record store at
this time is making an increasingly arbitrary investment, given most
record shops veneer of fashion on the one hand, and the easy availablity
of both opinions on this material and the material itself via the
internet on the other.
The tendency in most CD retailing of putting emphasis on "the latest" is
particularly dishearteningly stupid given the beautiful history of 20th
century music available in more complete than ever before re-issue CD
format. Buying "the latest" is making the most uncalulated of gambles.
Worse still, waiting to "see" something in order to buy it means you're
simply too easily pleased.
George Gosset
Jamie
> Justin wrote:
> What there needs to be is huge, kickass music libraries that are open
> to the public, where people can physically go in and listen to stuff.
there is a recording library in london uk. I never visited it when i lived
there, but you could book a listening booth and a recording and even make a
tape copy i believe. Wether they had every record ever released i'm not sure.
I would think there is something similar elsewhere, but I guess not on the
scale you want.
The master tapes/master disks and so forth must still lurking somwhere from
all these 'forgotten releases' , and i would think there is a rerelease
potential for esoteric label owners in this genre, similar to the trendy
upserge of lounge/porn cheese/blaxpoitation/soundtrack/funkoid rereleases of
stuff from the seventies. I guess finding the stuff would be a full time
'hobby'...
As for early noisey stuff, I've listened to 'the crypt' by AMM several times,
and tis really rather noisey and pretty good, doesn;t sound 'academic' at
all. Someone mentioned AMMusic is better - never heard it.
The sound track from 'Forbidden Planet' is another kind of milestone piece of
music. A friend has a copy of the very rare soundtrack lp, and it is pretty
intense somtimes - big, hard throbbing occilators. And it was a blockbuster
movie which is kinda fun.
I find that Merzbows 'Hybird Noisebloom' is like a noise-tishce of the
Forbidden planet synth style.
Does anyone else love 'Magma'? They;re not noise at all, but some of their
stuff is quite amazing.
Does anyone know what these very rare forgotten noise bands are from the
seventies or whatever? --- or is this just some holy grail for our bedroom
bound imgainations to grab on --- the mysterious, sumblime, perfect but lost
album
The liner notes on the charnel house 'Chaos of the night' CD are pretty
interesting, about an indian noise musician of a few centuries ago, who wrote
a whole book on his music (obciously non electrical).
Jamie
James Whitehead
In article <354DE726...@ix.netcom.com>, Jamie
<badm...@ix.netcom.com> writes
>> Justin wrote:
>
>
>
>> What there needs to be is huge, kickass music libraries that are open
>> to the public, where people can physically go in and listen to stuff.
>
>there is a recording library in london uk. I never visited it when i lived
>there, but you could book a listening booth and a recording and even make a
>tape copy i believe. Wether they had every record ever released i'm not sure.
>
National Sound Archive Noel Acquisitions 29 Exhibition Road
London SW7 2AS UK t01714127000 fax0171 1412 7441 ?
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wrote:
I always liked "ie: no salt"
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