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Yannis the Macedonian
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Istor
Macedonia, Greece
Dorian West
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Greece acknowledges a Slavic minority, not a Macedonian one, since the
majority of the inhabitants in that region calls itself Macedonian since
about 800 BC.
Of the Slavic minority about 50,000 (per the US CIA), only about 5000
consider themselves of FYROM Slavic conscience. In open and free national
elections, the Rainbow Slavic political Party does not get more than 2000
votes in the whole country.
Greece is NOT going to recognize any minority as "Macedonian" and that goes
for the country that wants to call itself "Republic of Macedonia."
The so-called "Republic of Macedonia" is actually located on three ancient
territories.
1. Skopje in Dardania Illyria.
2. Veles-Stip strip with the area north of Demir Kapija in Paeonia (a
Thraco-Illyrian people,
3. Areas of Krushevo, Prilep, Bitola, Gevgelija and Strumica used to be
within Macedonian Territory.
For more info. read Fanula Papazoglu's (a member of the Academy of Arts and
Sciences of the FYROM) books Macedonian Cities during Roman Times, and
Central Balkan Tribes. I suggest the reader to read the whole texts of the
books, including the saummery in French. Both books will be VERY educational
to the people that think they are "Macedonians."
Ivan Mikulcic states "The northern periphery of Greek world, inhabited with
ancient Macedonians and other peoples and tribes, wasn't developed for
democracy as the most developed social system at that time" and the
Macedonian Heritage adds "During the early archaic period at the Macedonian
territory, the Dorian tribal groups came across over the Pindos mountain, to
the area of today's North-Western Greece and parts of the southern Republic
of Macedonia. They established several early principalities partially by
chasing away the local Paeonian tribes. Those tribal groups were the ancient
Macedonians"
"The lower part of Vardar is certainly the area south of Demir-Kapija gorge
that entered Hellenic cultural sphere very early and already before 600 BC
the material culture is thoroughly Hellenised." But what tops all is the
statement by Vera Bitrakova-Grozdanova "The Art of Antiquity left in the
region of Ohrid a great number of traces of its own presence. Illyrian forts
imported goods from Greek centers and imitated them in a modest fashion.
Political advancement of the Macedonians and their domination enabled
cultural influx that manifested itself through products of crafts and
alphabet. From the times of Phillip II deeper advances in the area of
Lychnidos are attested. Cultural influences of the Graeco-Macedonian world
are more present. Rich Hellenistic culture arrived at Illyrian soil". The
publication Arheologija voices "...Certain proto-populations occupying
distinct areas of the Balkans could be distinguished on the territories of
the cultural groups: in western part of the Balkans the proto-Illyrians, in
the east the proto Thracians, in the south the Hellenes, in the northern
part of the Balkans the proto Daco-Mysians and in the southwest of the
Central Balkans the proto Bryges.'
Furthermore, the answer to the first part of the lengthy paragraph comes
from the FYROM publications and scholars who have dealt with two specific
areas Paeonia and Pelagonia.
Paeonia was located in the middle of the present day FYROM having Astibus
(Stip) as its capital and Vylazora (Veles) as one of the most important
cities. Pelagonia on the other hand was the area just north of Lyngistis
(Florina-Bitola) and its inhabitants were Molossian speaking Macedonians of
Upper Macedonia. Fanica Veljanovska declares "Paeonians, a people who during
the first millennia BC inhabited border area between the three great
paleobalkanic peoples-Illyrians, Thracians and Greeks". She mentions no
Macedonians since she considers the Macedonians Greeks. Vera
Bitrakova-Grozdanova insists "Greek epigraphic monuments created before
definitive Roman domination of our area are to be found in modest quantity"
Moreover, she states "Study of the inscriptions speaks about epigraphic
characteristics of the neighboring Macedonian - Hellenic world". Vera
Bitrakova-Grozdanova also mentions "Having the central position in this part
of the Balkans, Paeonia, apart from receiving influences from the Hellenic
south, wasn't an exception with regard to influences from Illyrian and
Thracian sphere." Vera Bitrakova-Grozdanova would not have made such a
statement if she did not feel the Macedonians were Greeks living south of
Paeonia.
Statements about Pelagonia are made by Ivan Mikulcic, an excellent Scientist
who was the first to object to say that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks.
Mikulcic states "we are not to be amazed that in the archaeological material
of Pelagonia we have a rarely great wealth of reflections of all pronounced
cultural events in the relations between middle-Danubian and Graeco-Aegean
world". Also, Mikulcic determines "in a such great chronological distance in
the life of ancient Pelagonia two stages are visible: development and
existence in the frames of Hellenic culture and later the Roman one" "Even
in the last decades of 5th century stabilization in all spheres of social
life is established. As first sign of the new time import from
Graeco-Macedonian south appeared as well as fortified settlements that later
grew into urban centers with character of economic and religious nuclei of
the region"
Viktor Lilcic describes life in Paeonia and the northern part of Upper
Macedonia (Pelagonia) "The quantitative ceramic material used to be produced
with the usual process including the labor of persons. Partly because of
that, partly because of the traditions that had taken roots into our soil,
which with centuries before that used to be watered with Hellenic spirit and
Hellenistic way of life, the use of the building ceramics had been brought
to minimum"
All these scholars above are members of the FYROM Academy of Arts and
Sciences revealing that the SOuth of Paeonia was Greece. WHy in the World
Greece would recognize any Slav as Macedonian, since by their own Academy's
admition the ancient Macedonians were GREEKS?
Marko Kraljevic
George W. Bush@yahoo.com Pres. George W. Bush
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> (Response to: EU Acknowledges Macedonian Minority in Greece · Metodija A.
> Koloski · Sun May 30th 08:03:12 2004)
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> Greece acknowledges a Slavic minority, not a Macedonian one, since the
> majority of the inhabitants in that region calls itself Macedonian since
> about 800 BC.
Those people are the same as my people (HINT: George Tsapanos' uncle.)
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> "Dorian West" <bitb...@ripe.net> wrote in message
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>> (Response to: EU Acknowledges Macedonian Minority in Greece · Metodija A.
>> Koloski · Sun May 30th 08:03:12 2004)
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>> Greece acknowledges a Slavic minority, not a Macedonian one, since the
>> majority of the inhabitants in that region calls itself Macedonian since
>> about 800 BC.
>
> Those people are the same as my people (HINT: George Tsapanos' uncle.)
>
You're a lousy Slavic piece of shit, having nothing to do with Macedonia
other than using her name to wrongly describe yourselves. Even your internet
name is stolen and probably illegally so. I wonder if the white house would
have anything to say about your impersonating the president of USA?
Freedom Fighter
he says your own historians say? If so, provide evidence. If not, STFU.
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which he is NEVER going to see again.
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Dorian West
they have been given the green light to take control of South Serbia, but
once again you fail to answer the question Freedom Fighter asked, "Can you
disprove what he says your own historians say? If so, provide evidence.".
Key words here are, "your own historians".
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>
> You're a lousy Slavic piece of shit, having nothing to do with Macedonia
> other than using her name to wrongly describe yourselves. Even your
internet
> name is stolen and probably illegally so. I wonder if the white house
would
> have anything to say about your impersonating the president of USA?
You better look closer at your ancestry ... because they were probably also
"lousy Slavic pieces of shit, having nothing to do with Macedonia," too.
Just like George Tsapanos' great uncle .... founder of the first
Macedono-Bulgarian Orthodox Church in the United States (1907).
Seanie The Grik-Slapper !
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