The Serbs in the Balkans (The Scorpian and the Turtle) Part 2

David Edenden

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Feb 7, 2004, 9:54:23 PM2/7/04

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The Scorpian and the Turtle is a fable as to why Macedonians cannot trust the Serbs.

It seems to be in the Serbian character to aggressively pursue all their interests, on all fronts, without the need to make a decision as to what is their greatest interest.

Even now as the United States and the EU are making plans to recognize Kosovo as an independent country, the Serbian Orthodox Church is destabilizing Macedonia by trying to force the Macedonian Orthodox Church to submit to it. Amazing!

They can't seem to compromise one of their interests for the sake of their primary interest ... Kosovo.

So Macedonians and Bulgarians will stand by and do nothing to help the Serbs. (A position that I agree with given the circumstances).

However, the problem for Macedonia is that both Serbia and Bulgaria will stand by and watch Nato pressure Macedonia to be "federalized" (de-facto partioned) in favour of the Albanians. Whether we can keep Skopje out of this de-facto partion will be a struggle. Naturally, I expect that Serbia and Bulgaria will stand by and do nothing to help the Macedonians.

However, the problem for Bulgaria is that Nato will put federalism (de-facto partition using Macedonia as the model) will be on the agenda for its ethnic Turkish minority. I believe that federalization will be required for Bulgaria to enter the EU. Naturally, I expect that Serbia and Macedonia will stand by and do nothing.

With a very poor poker hand, the Alabanians and Turks are set to clean up in the Balkans. They are the beneficiaries of the desire of the US, EU, Nato to demonstrate to the "Islamic World" that they are pro-Muslim. The US, EU, Nato will not condemn Israel for its problem with the Palestinians or Russia for its problems with the Chechens for obvious reasons.

In my next post, I will try give examples of the anti-Macedonian ground work that is being laid in the media for de-facto partion and a few ideas on how we fight on this front.

June R Harton

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Feb 8, 2004, 2:59:09 AM2/8/04

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"David Edenden" <david....@rogers.com
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>The Scorpian and the Turtle is a fable as to why Macedonians cannot trust
the Serbs.

Bulgar, quit trying to steal a Greek identity amd Greek history and
heritage.

More of the world comes to you are nothing but a Bulgarian every time
you do it.

Folks, you only have to look here to see that the Fyrom Slavic majority,
like the poster above and ilindra, Nicholov and Slavko are simply and only
West Bulgarians and have no connection to 'Macedonia' anything and
whatsoever:

In a letter to Prof. Marin Drinov of May 25, 1888 Kuzman Shapkarev writes:
"But even stranger is the name Macedonians, which was imposed on us only 10
to 15 years ago by outsiders, and not as something by our own
intellectuals... Yet the people in Macedonia know nothing of that ancient
name, reintroduced today with a cunning aim on the one hand and a stupid one
on the other. They know the older word: "Bugari", although mispronounced:
they have even adopted it as peculiarly theirs, inapplicable to other
Bulgarians. You can find more about this in the introduction to the booklets
I am sending you. They call their own Macedono-Bulgarian dialect the
"Bugarski language", while the rest of the Bulgarian dialects they refer to
as the "Shopski language". (Makedonski pregled, IX, 2, 1934, p. 55; the
original letter is kept in the Marin Drinov Museum in Sofia, and it is
available for examination and study)
Here is the text in the original:

"No pochudno e imeto Makedonci, koeto naskoro, edvay predi 10-15 godini, ni
natrapiha i to otvqn, a ne kakto nyakoi mislyat ot samata nasha
inteligenciya... Narodqt obache v Makedoniya ne znae nishto za tova
arhaichesko, a dnes, s lukava cel ot edna strana, s glupeshka ot druga,
podnoveno prozvishte; toy si znae postaroto: Bugari, makar i nepravilno
proiznasyano, daje osvoyava si go kato sobstveno i preimushtestveno svoe,
nejeli za drugite Bqlgari. Za tova shte vidite i v predgovora na izpratenite
mi knijici. Toy naricha Bugarski ezik svoeto Makaedono-bqlgarsko narechie,
kogato drugite bqlgarski narechiya naricha Shopski."

And here:

Reference source for Gotse Delchev's numerous utterings of 'We are
Bulgarians'......

http://www.ucc.ie/staff/jprodr/macedonia/macmodnat2.html

Even Gotse Delchev, the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader, whose nom de
guerre was Ahil (Achilles), refers to "the Slavs of Macedonia as
'Bulgarians' in an offhanded manner without seeming to indicate that such a
designation was a point of contention" (Perry 1988:23).
In his correspondence Gotse Delchev often states clearly and simply, "We are
Bulgarians" (MacDermott 1978:192,273).

And here:

For fair use only.

http://members.tripod.com/~dimobetchev/documents/ilinden.htm

" Considering the critical and terrible situation that the Bulgarian
population of the Bitola Vilayet found itself in and following the ravages
and cruelties done by the Turkish troops and irregulars, ... considering
the fact that everything Bulgarian runs the risk of perishing and
disappearing without a trace because of violence, hunger, and the upcoming
misery, the Head Quarters finds it to be its obligation to draw the
attention of the respected Bulgarian government to the pernicious
consequences vis-a-vis the Bulgarian nation, in case the latter does not
fulfill its duty towards its brethren of race here in an imposing fashion
which is necessary by virtue of the present ordeal for the common Bulgarian
Fatherland...

...Being in command of our people's movement, we appeal to you on behalf of
the enslaved Bulgarian to help him in the most effective way - by waging
war.We believe that the response of the people in free Bulgaria will be the
same.

... No bulgarian school is opened, neither will it be opened... Nobody
thinks of education when he is outlawed by the state because he bears the
name Bulgar...

Waiting for your patriotic intervention, we are pleased to inform you that
we have in our disposition the armed forces we have spared by now.

The Head Quarters of the Ilinden Uprising"

Damian GRUEV, Boris SARAFOV, Atanas LOZANTCHEV

This memorandum was handed to Dr.Kozhuharov, the Bulgarian consul in Bitola,

and transmitted by him to the government in Sofia with report N441 from
September 17th, 1903. "

And here:

http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/document.htm

http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/documen1.htm

http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/documen2.htm

http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/documen3.htm

http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/drzhava.htm

http://www.bulgaria.com/VMRO/exarchy.htm