The falsehood of Andriotis.
Idomeneas
The Greek (?) linguist Nikolaos Andriotis (1992; 1st edition 1960) published
a book about the artificial character of the Macedonian language. After a
short historical account of the ancient Macedonians and the presence of
Slavs in Macedonia, the book examines the relationships between the Serbian,
Macedonian, and Bulgarian languages, concluding that the standardization of
the Macedonian language in the post-World War II Yugoslav Republic of
Macedonia was an artificial construction fabricated "from above" for
political purposes.
Andriotis's work has been severely criticized by other linguists. The
general consensus is to treat Macedonian as a language and not as a regional
dialect (de Bray 1980; Lunt 1984; Friedman 1975; 1985). The reason for the
divergence of opinion is that Andriotis's critics believe that "language and
dialect are in no way definite quantities" (Lunt 1984:91) and that "the
decision as to whether a given transitional South Slav dialect belongs to
one or another language is not a linguistic one but a sociopolitical one"
(Friedman 1985:36). Given the fact that all South Slav languages are closely
connected, it does seem that the task of differentiating a language from a
dialect is a political, not a scientific one. In other words, the
establishment of the People's Republic of Macedonia constituted a sufficient
criterion for considering the local linguistic medium a language (and not,
as Bulgarian scholars have suggested, a Bulgarian dialect). But Andriotis
did not follow this criterion. Instead, he considered the creation of the
Macedonian republic to be an artificial construction and proceeded to give
an interpretation of its language that was highly tainted by his own
particular value judgments.
June R Harton
Idio wrote
>The falsehood of Andriotis.
I am continuing today the second part regarding the so-called SKOPJAN
IDIOM, of the FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF SKOPIA, from the book by the same
title by professor of Linguistics in the University of Thessaloniki,
Andriotis. My intentions to show the clear evidences of the impact that
the Greek language has upon this idiom. As I said before, the book can
not be scanned due to the fact that in the original the relation between
the languages are written with different fonts. The book by Andriotis
was written regarding the official language of SKOPJA. There is
something else. The ones of you that are Greeks, read them carefully and
then you'll see HOW EASY is to learn, understand and speak the idiom .
Especially once you reach the words of the Church. It seems that you are
speaking pure Greek. But then attention.........they might call you
SKOPIANS !! Not only this, one can communicate ONLY with the words of
Greek origins, there was NO NEED for the SKOPIANS to DEVELOPE a
language because the language was ALREADY in there !!
The first attemps to DIFFERENCIATE the language did not begin till 1940
!!! And now they are making words from every other language in order to
present us with a................."Ma-c-edonian language" !!!
And I am a Chinese.
And here are the rest of the words having Greek origins, in the idiom
of the FEDERATIVE STATE OF SKOPJA.
Pages..............32-33
fasul ........................fasouli................... ....bean
prokopsan..............prokommenos..........diligent
fijala..........................fialh............................bottle,
flask
spanio......................spanios......................rare
fikija..........................vikion,flytzani.............cup
stir, stira...................steiros,steira.............barren,sterile
firida ........................thyrida........................small
window
ftesen.......................ftaixths.......................guilty
fortoma, hortoma,.....fortoma............. .......load
harin., aren................xaroumenos.............joyfull
fortoma.......................fortoma.....................load
hondrokefal...............xontrokefalos............hard-headed
ftas ............................ftasmenos-h..............right time
ftis,stis........................fthisis.........................consupt
ion
fuska..........................fouska........................bubble
hara............................hara.........................,..joy
harak..........................xaraki.........................ruler
harkoma.....................xarkoma.....................brass
harta............................xartia..........................playing
carts
hartija..........................xarti.............................paper
hiljada..........................xiliada........................a
thousand
horjatin.........................xoriaths......................peasant,v
illager
horo,oro.......................xoros..........................dance
hrisje.............................xrhsis.........................use
hunija,unija....................xoni...........................funnel
B. ADJECTIVES
avtonom........................aytonomos................autonomos
anapodo........................anapodo....................reversed
anustu.............................anosto.......................insipid
aplos...............................aplos..........................simpl
e
afrat..................................afratos......................frot
hy
babakeren.......................vamvakeros..............of cotton
bez-rizitsen......................xoris-riziko................unfortunat
e
eftin...................................eythinos....................chea
p
kerdosnik..........................kerdismenos............winner
kuf,kuh...............................koufios......................hollo
w
levter..................................lefteros......................fr
ee
liksur..................................leixouris.....................qo
urmand
malamen...........................malamatenios..........of gold
ne-praksan.......................a-pragos....................inexperienc
ed
ne-skoposen....................a-skopos....................aimless
oftik-liv..............................pthisikos.....................con
sumptive
pitimen,pitimija................epithymhtos................wished
praksan.............................me-praxh....................experien
ced
C.VERBS
upikasam.........................apeikazo...................to
understand
argasuvam.......................argazo-ergazo......... to work
po-argisam......................argo............................I am
not working
resam-arisam...................areso.........................to be liked
armatosam se..................armatonomai............to arm oneself
armasam..........................armozo.......................to fit
arnisam.............................arnoumai...................to refuse
arpazuvam........................arpazo.......................to seize
vapsuvam..........................vafo........................... to dye
vjasam...............................variemai.....................to be
bored
vtasam...............................ftano...........................to
arrive
vtesam...............................ftaio............................to
do wrong
gavram-se.........................gayrio.........................to joke
deksam..............................dexomai...................To
accept-to admit
dikisuvam.........................dikaiono.....................to
justify
dipljam...............................diplono.......................to
fold
dukimasam.......................dokimazo...................to taste
eksigisam..........................exigo.........................to
explain
elate...................................elate...........................
come
zalisuvam...........................zalizo..........................to
make giddy
zgiavoluvam.......................diavouleyomai...........to deliberate
zigosuvam.........................zygizo..........................to
weight
zilepsuvam-zilosam..........zhleyo.........................to envy
zuvgradisam......................zografizo....................to
draw-paint
zografisam.........................zografizo....................to draw
Pages...............34-35
ikisitaksam......................exetazo.....................to examine
pezarn.............................paizo.........................to
play
isihisam- isihasam ........hsyxazo.....................to rest
pizmam...........................peismono.................to spite
kalarnisuvam ..................kalamizo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, to spin
plakosam........................plakono.....................to press
akalesam- kalesam........proskalo-kalo.......... to invite
nat-kalesam
plasam..............................platho......................to
knead
katigorisam.......................kathgoro..................to accuse
praksam............................pratto...................... to do
kenosam...........................kenono......................to empty
prepsam...........................prepo........................to
become
kerdosam.........................kerdizo......................to win, to
succeed
prikosam
kinisuvam -kinisam..........kino........................... to move, to
start
klotsam..............................klotso........................ to
kick
prokopsam.........................prokovo...................to progress
laha-se ...............................laxainei.................... it
happens
latipsa.................................lathepsa....................I
was wrong
psovisam...........................psofo.........................to die
lipsuvam -lipsam................leipo......................... to be
absent
skiasam.............................skiazo.......................to
frigten
s-kitaksam.........................koitazo......................to look
magepsuvam....................mageyo.....................to bewitch
skopsam
malamosam......................malamatono............. to gild
s-lisam se..........................lynomai.....................I untie
myself
martirisam..........................martyro..................... to
testify
s-mramoruvam..................marmarono................to turn into
stone
merisam- mirisam.............myrizo........................to smell
sosam...............................sozo............................to
save
molepsam ........................moleyo........................to
infect, to molest
stivasam...........................stoivazo......................to
pile
muhlosam..........................mouxliazo.................. to get
mildewed
streksam...........................strego.........................to
admit
navjaksuvam ....................anevazo.......................to raise,
to complete
taksam, f-taksam.............tazo.............................to
promise
tentosuvam........................tentono......................to
stretch
namnisuvam......................anamimnhsko............ to remind
timisuvarn..........................timo.............................to
honour
napilesam .........................apeilo......................... to
threaten
tipkam...............................typto-xtypo...................to
hit
omaleksuvam...................exomalyno...................to soften, to
knead
tiposam............................typono..........................to
print
umjasam ...........................omoiazo...................... to
resemble
tihisa................................etyxe.............................
.it happened
mjasam -omjasam ...........omoiazo......................to resemble
trevlivam............................traylizo.........................to
stammer
trigisam.............................trygizo..........................to
gather grapes
oriste..................................oriste..........................
welcome, please
orse....................................orse............................
..welcome-please
trufam
se............................tryfo..............................to
adorn
stasam-ftasam.................ftano.............................to
arrivve
papsam..............................payo.............................to
stop, to cease
ftesam -vtesam.................ftaio.............................to be
guilty
parakamnuvam .................parakamno................ to (over)work,
overdo
ftisam.............................xtizo................................
..to build
param............................pairno.................................
to take
h-arizam...........................xarizo..............................t
o make a gift
paraftasam...................paraftano............................to
reach, to suffice
parjasam....................paratao............................... to
abandon
arosam-harosam...........xairomai-petyxaino.........to succeed
pataksam........................patasso........................... to
subdue, to calm,
horatuvam.....................xorateyo.............................to
joke
patam ...........................pathaino.............................
to suffer
pedepsam......................paideyo............................to
train, to inflict suffering
Pages....................36-37
WORDS FROM THE LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH AND EDUCATION
agiazmo....................agiasmos................sanctification
agripnija-igripnie......agrypnia..................wakefulness
ambon........................amvon.....................pulpit
anafora.......................anafora...................reference
angel..........................aggelos...................angel
apokalipsis................apokalypsis............apokalypse
apopleksija................apoplhxia.................apoplexy
apostol.......................apostolos.................apostle
aro..............................xaros.........................death
arhangel.....................arxaggelos..............archangel
arhierej.......................arxiereas.................bishop
asketija.......................askhths....................hermit
aforismo......................aforismos..............aphorism
gramatik ....................grammatikos.........clerk
giak.............................diakos......................deacon
didaskal, daskal ........daskalos.................teacher
daskalits......................didaskalissa.........female teacher
dijakonija.....................diakonia................diocese
dijarija.........................diarroia....................diarrhea
dijeta............................dieta........................diet
diplornatika..................diplomatia.............diplomacy
djavol, giavol ................diavolos................devil
evangelije, vangelije....eyaggelio...............gorpel
evangelist.....................eyaggelisths..........evangelist
egumen, igumen..........hgoumenos............a prior
eksarhos........................exarchos.................exarch
enurija............................enoria..................... parish
epilepslja.......................epilhpsia................epilepsy
epitimion........................epitimion................penance
pitrop epitrop..................epitropos...............trustee
epopeja...........................epopoiia................epic
eres..................................airesh.....................herecy
efimerija...........................efhmerios..............parish priest
efharistija.........................eyxaristia...............thanksgivin
g
igemon.............................hgemon..................ruler
idol...................................eidolon....................idol
ikona................................eikona.....................ikon
ikonostas, ikonastas......einonostasi............place for the icons
ikonorn.............................oikonomos............economic
ikonomija.........................oikonomia..............economy
ipostas.............................ypostash.................existence
ipsoma.............................ypsoma...................height
Pages .........38-39
istorja....................istoria.................. history
ovtok....................oktohxi.................octet
Panagi(j)a...........Panagia...............Vergin Mary
kalamar................kalamari...............inkstand
kalimavka.............kalimayxi.............. a priest's head-cover
panagiur, pana....panhgyri................feast
paradiz.................paradeisos............paradise
paraklis................parekklhsi.............,chapel
kaluger, kauger ..kalogeros..............monk
parastas...............parastash..............service
kalugerka.............kalogria............... nun
pater.....................pater.....................father-priest
kandilonaft ..........kanthlanafths........ a sexton
pateritsa...............pateritsa...............crutch-stick
kanon...................kanonas.............. the rule, canon
petravil, petrahil.....petrachili.............stole
klisar.....................ekklhsaris........... sacristan
plaka.....................plaka....................slab-slate
kolas.....................kolasis.................. hell
poli (e)lej..............polyeleios............chandelier
kolivo....................kollyvo..................a sweet offere
.................................................... in memory of the
dead
politika...................politikh.................politics
POP....................papas....................priest
kontil (e).............kontyli....................a pencil
popadija.............papadia................priest's wife
lambada.............lambada.............. large candle, torch
prezviter..............presvytera............priest's wife
lipsana,liptsana...leipsana...............corpse
litija.....................leitania................... litany
prosvora.............prosfora................offerings
liturgija................leitourgia...............liturgy, mass
poskura
mager................mageiras...............cook
protoger..............protogeros............an elder
magernitsa.........mageiritsa.............kind of soup
protosingel..........protosyggelos........chief overseer in church
protudrak.............protodrakos............chief dragon
magija..................mageia....................spell-charm
magesnik,..............magos....................male wizart
magenitsa............magissa..................witch
maesna
martir....................martyr.....................martyr
profet.....................profhths..................profet
psalom.................psalmodia................psalm
matima.................mathima..................lesson
melan, milan........melani......................ink
psalt.....................psaltis......................chanter
metanija..............metanoia................ repentance
psaltir.................psalthri....................psalm book-place
metoh, metuh......metoxi...................monastery's land
psaltikija............psaltikh...................art of chanting
ravon, raun.........arravon...................engagement
mirizma, merizma .....myrisma........odour
savan, vasan.........savano................shroud
miro.......................myrro......................myrrh
mirosuvanie.........xrisma me myrro..... chrism, anointment
sarandar..............sarantari................after 40 days
mitropolija............mhtropolis..............metropolis
sindilija..................synteleia................end of world
moliv......................molyvi.....................pencil
monastir................monastiri................ convent
skolija....................sxoleio....................school
monoklisija..........monokklhsia.........a mass in one church
stihira....................stixhra...................church's songs
natema...................anathema.............anathema
stratik.....................stratiotis................soldier
nafora.....................anafora..................report
tartar......................tartara.....................hell
nimosino................mnhmosyno..........requiem
Page...............40.
tetratka..................tetradio..................copy-book
timen
temjan.....................thymiama.............incense
trapeza....................trapeza-i..............altar
trimer
trimir........................tri-hmeron............three days
tron
troni.........................throni-thronos......throne
tropar......................tropari...................hymn
filosof
vilosof.....................filosofos...............philosopher
filosofija..................filosopheia..........philosophy
fotografija...............fotografia.............photography
B...........ADJECTIVES.
Eretik......................airetikos...............heretic
katarosan...............kataramenos.......cursed
hrisjanin..................xristianos..............christian
C..........VERBS
Aneste...................Anesth...................resurrected
Ristos Aneste........Xristos Anesth!.....Christ is reasen
aforesam...............aforizo....................ex-communicate
liturgisam...............leitourgo................celebrate mass
metanisam............matanoiono...........prostrate oneself
mirosuvan..............myrono...................anoint
natemisam.............anathematizo.........anathematise
proskinisam...........proskyno.................to bow
psalam....................psallo......................to sing
skulasam................sxolno.....................to dismiss
trimeram................nhsteyo 3 days........fasting 3 days
D............PROPER NOUNS
Alek
Aleksandar
Andreja
Argir
Atanas
Dimitar
Eftim
George
Gligorie
Hristo
Kiril
Petar
Spiro
Todore
Trendafil
Vasil
Zoe
etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc................................
GREEK WORDS WHICH PASSED INTO THE DIALECT FROM FOREIGN LANGUAGES.
Anason...............anison.................anice
afion.............. ....afioni...................opium
Efentija..............aythenths..................boss
giubre................koprha..................dung
kalem................kalamos.................cane
krevet.................krevati....................bed
kesten.................kastano................chesnut
legen...................lekanh...................basin
liman...................limani.....................port
magdanos..........makedonh.............parsley
mastiha...............mastixa.................chewing-gum
mermer...............marmaro................marble
palavra................paravolh................comparison
palamud..............palamyda..............sort of fish
peksimet.............paximadi................toast
pita......................pitta........................pitta
porjaz..................borhas....................north wind
somum................psomi.....................bread
srma....................syrma......................wire
sunger...............sfouggari.................sponge
talaz....................thalassa..................sea
tefter....................diftera.....................dressed hide
tolosom................telisimh..................amulet
fener.....................fanar.......................lantern
filiz........................phyllis.................dish of cabbage
fidan....................fidani...................young plant
sinik......................chinix...................measure
AND SO ON ............................
Next are the FPREIGN WORDS WHICH PASSED INTO THE SKOPJE DIALECT FROM
GREEK.
Due to the fact that I am getting tired, but above all due to the fact
that I believe that I MADE MY POINT, I am ending the presentation of the
WORDS.
I might copy or scan the text in English that is a much easier work and
I'll post it on a future day.
Regards to all .................L.
June R Harton
Idio wrote
>The falsehood of Andriotis.
So? What about the Skopjean Greek language?!
Learn to read and think Fyromian!
From:
LYNGOS RE: LANGUAGE
Thursday, January 14, 1999 4:07 PM
For fair use only
From page 25 TO PAGE 31 of Andriotis book ""THE FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF
SKOPJE AND ITS LANGUAGE"".
Rest from 32-43 to come later. This is a laborious task due to the fact
that I have to post word by word in all three languages with Latin
Characters. In Adriotis book the words were with Skopian-Greek- Latin
characters, so I couldn't copy it and paste it. Enjoy the
Greek-Makedonian language.
<<<<<Slavisation went through a stage of bilingualism during which they
spoke both Greek and Slav. That stage enabled them to keep in their new
language part of the treasure of vocabulary of their old national
tongue.
For the full appreciation of the profound influence of Greek
vocabulary on the language of the state of Skopje, it is important to
give the reader the commonest Greek words to be foundin the dialect of
Skopje in their Slavic and Greek form, divided into grammatical
categories. First of all I will give those words whose meaning shows
that the Slavs borrowed from the Greeks in the midst of whom they lived
without the intercession of the Greek ecclesiastical administration or
education and culture.
I will then list the words with which their language was enriched
through the Greek language of the Church, the Schools, and the State
during the Byzantine era, the Turkish occupation and the modern period.
1. Words of Daily Use.
A. Nouns
avlij'a ....................
aylh..........................courtyard
adamant ................ adamas.................. diamond
akola
...................................kolla..........................paste
aktapod ...............................xtapodi......................
octopus
ambis....................................avyssos......................
abyss
angarija .................................aggareia...................
forced labour
andart,.....................................antarths....................
..insurgent
armas...................................armosis( arravon),,,,,,,,,,
betrothal
armasnik............................armostos..........................
betrothed
armasnitsa..........................armosth.........................fian
cee
aroma
................................aroma................................
aroma
aspida...............................aspida.............................
... shield
astma
...............................asthma.................................
asthma
bisagi
................................dissaki............................saddl
e-bag
vJasame.........................viasi...................................
.. hurry
vrakozun ......................vrakozonh..............................
belt
vris
...................................vrysi..............................sp
ring, fountain
vroma....................................vroma..........................
....... filth
gargara
..............................gargara..............................gargl
e
gnida
..................................konida................................
nit
26-27
gramota
..........................grammata.................................
letters
karnatnik..........................tokoglyfos...........................
...usurer
darmon
............................dermoni.................................
sieve
kamila...............................kamhla.............................
......camel
kamilar..............................kamhlierhs.........................
.camel-driver
dafine,
dofina......................dafnh.....................................la
urel
dekar................................dekari..........the ten, a surface
measure
kanestra..........................kanistro.............................b
asket
kapelija.............................kapelas........................tave
rn-keeper
dekara.............................dekara.......................a
tenpenny coin
kaps............................kapsh-thermh.................warmth-heat
dekalepto...................dekalepto...................... ten minutes
period
kapsima, kaptsima...............kapsimo...............burn
dikel...........................dikeli....................
double-pointed mattock
karfija............................karfi................................
.nail
karfitsa.......................karfitsa..............................pin
dilav
............................dilavi......................................
........ tongs
katandija.........................katantia.......................poor
conditions
dipla
..............................dipla...................................
fold
disagi, disasi........................dissaki.......................
saddle-bag
katara.......................................katara.....................
.curse
disk ....................................diskos.......................
disc, tray
katizma..............................kathisma....................stool-s
eat
dodekada ..........................dodekada................. a dozen
(the elders)
kefalija.................................kefali.........................
.head
keramida,
kiramida
geramida..............................keramida..................tile
gramida
drum......................................dromos........................
..........way
dunia......................................kydoni......................q
uince
kerata...................................keratas.....................cuc
khold-rogue
ergatin,
argatin.....................ergaths......................workman
eftinija
...................................eythibia.....................cheapnes
s
kivur.......................................kivouri.....................
.coffin
kimion....................................kimono......................cu
min
ehidna.....................................exidna.........
.............viper
kiparis....................................kyparissi....................
cypress
zalis.........................................zalh......................
.......gidiness
zevgar, zegvar, sevgar.........zeygari.........................pair
kir............................................kyr......................
...........sir
zilia..........................................zhleia...................
........jealousy
kirie.........................................kyrios....................
.......gentleman
kira..........................................kyra,kyria................
......lady
zograf,
zugraf..........................zografos........................painter
klistir........................................kleistiri................
...........enema
zunitsa.....................................zonitsa.....................
.....small belt
ile..............................................elaion.................
............oil klisoura
ilikija.........................................hlikia..................
........... age
Klisoura....................................kleisoura...................
.....pass
ilinika
.......................................Ellhnika......................
Greek language
klonka.....................................klonaraki....................
....little branch
imarmena,..............................eimarmenh...................
fate, destiny
kokal.......................................kokkalo.....................
......bone
jagurida,
jagurina....................aggourida....................unripe grape
komat......................................kommati......................
...a part-piece
kada...................................kados............................
...... tab, bucket
kopan....................................kopanos........................
....knocker
kalam......................................kalami.......................
........cane, pen
korab,
kurab............................karavi................................s
hip
kalamot..................................kalamoth.......................
......hedge
korem.....................................kormos........................
........trunk
kalezba...................................kalesma.......................
...... invitation
kofnid.................................kofinidi.........................
............basket
kalek....................................kalos..........................
..... beloved, beau
kromid..................................krommydi........................
..onion
kumbija.................................koumpi..........................
.....button
kalesarmitsa.........................kalestra...........................
...she who invites
kutija.......................................kouti......................
............box
kalimana.............................kalimanna..........................
. god -mother
kutel..................................koutelo..........................
......forehead
kalitata................................nounos..........................
........god-father
kutsoulja.............................koutsoulia........................
..bird's dung
kalap, kalup........................kalapodi
..............................shoe tree
lad.........................................ladi........................
................oil
kamato..................................kamatos.........................
. labour, toil, debt
ladka...................................ladiko..........................
.......oiling-can
28-29
lakan....................................lekanh.........................
.... basin, brazier
orfana..................................orfana..........................
....orphans
ohtika,
oftika.......................ektikh-xtikio....................sickness
lamia, lamnia
......................lamia..............................lamnia, ogress
lastar....................................vlastari......................
..... sprig
pagida,
paida......................pagida............................trap
lahana,laana
.......................lahana.............................cabbage
pagur.....................................pagouri.......................
...water bottle
leonka,leunka......................lechona.................... woman
in child-bed
palivot..................................palhovodo-i...................o
ld -ox
palikaro................................palhkari........................
.young man
lera.......................................lera.........................
...........dirt
liva
......................................livas.............................
......south-west wind
panagon, panag................panogomi.......................overload
livada...................................leivadi........................
..meadow
paplama.............................paploma............................q
uilt
lizgar...................................lisgari........................
.....mattock
papule.............................pappoulhs..........................ol
d man
lisida................................alyssida..........................
.. chain
parakav............................parakami..........................nig
ht-work
lit
.......................................ilithios.........................
...... imbecile
paramana........................paramanna.......................nurse
mavrada...........................mayrada...........................blac
kness
paranom..........................paranomi...........................nick
-name
paraspur...........................paraspori..........................gr
anted field
mavrud...............................mayro..............................
..black grape
magare ............................gomari-gaidaros.................a
load- an ass
paratir,
parafir...................parathyri.............................window
parjasnitsa......................pariarismenh-afhmenh.........divorced
woman
magnit..............................magnitis............................
.....magnet
malamo.............................malama...............................
.gold
mandal..............................mandalos............................
. latch, bolt
mandra...............................mandra.............................
...sheep-pen
paspal..................................paspalh.........................
.....fine flour
margar, margarit .................margariths........................
pearl
patrida..................................patrida........................
.......fatherland
migdal,
mindal.......................a-mygdalo........................almond
peza........................................paiximo.....................
......play
mirodija, merudija
..................myroudia........................smell, perfume
mistrjia.....................................mystri.....................
..........trowel
monokero
.............................monokeros.......................unicorn
peziol...................................pezovolos......................
.....kind of net
pendara...............................pentara...........................
....five-penny coin
mramor............................marmaro...............................
..marble
musikija,
muzikija...............mousikh...............................music
pepun.........................................peponi....................
.....melon
murenka....................................mouria.......................
....a mulberry tree
petal..........................................petalo...................
..........horse shoe
mustak...................................moustaki.......................
....moustache
peher.................................petheros..........................
......father in law
muhla...................................mouxla..........................
...... mildew
pizma..................................peisma...........................
.....spite
niruja......................................nero........................
.......... water, fountain,
pinakida,
panakida.............pinakida.............................placart
pmakota.................................pinakoth........................
..carrying board
nifa
.......................................nyfh.............................
.......... bride
noima...................................nohma...........................
.... sense, wit, sign
piper....................................piperia........................
.....pepper
oktar, uhtar
..........................ochtari.........................eightsome (a
weight)
piperka..............................piperia............................
pepper
omjas, omjaz......................omoioths...........................
resemblance
pira......................................pyra..........................
........pyre-fire
opistje..............................pistia-piso........................
saddle strap
Pirg...................................pyrgos...........................
....tower
piret..................................yphreths.........................
......servant
ora kali..............................ora
kali..................................farewell
piron.................................pirouni...........................
.........fork
organ.................................organ.............................
...musical instrument
oriz,
oris...........................oryza-ryzi.............................
rice
pirostija,
pirustija.............pyrostia..............................gridiron
orismitsa...........................orismeno............................
fate
Pisa....................................pissa...........................
.....tar
30-31
pihtija...............................phxth.............................
.... jelly, pie
stihija,
stija.......................stoixeio.............................ghost
plit
....................................plithos.............................
..brick
stipsa,
stiptsa..................styfh..................................alum
plita...................................plithari........................
.......brick
stomah..............................stomachi..........................st
omach
potir...................................potiri..........................
.......glass, mug
stomna,
stovna,................stamna.............................pitcher
pramatar...........................pramateyths.....................sales
man
strak...................................ostrako.........................
....shell
pramatija............................pramateia......................
merchandise
sulundar.............................solhnario..........................
tube
pras,
praz...........................prasso...............................leek
susam................................sousami............................
sesam
prika, prikia, prekija,
.........proika...............................dowry
shedio.................................sxedio...........................
...drawing, sketch
taistro..................................tayistro.......................
.......feeding tub
prion.....................................prioni........................
..........saw
tajane,
tajani.......................t'ah-Yiannh.........................St.John
's
progima,
proima,...............progeyma...........................breakfast
taksidar...............................taxeidiarhs......................
...traveller
prokopija.............................prokoph..................
progress,improvement
taksit.....................................taxeidi......................
.........travel
proksinit, prosinit
.................proxenhths.....................match-maker
talant.....................................talanto......................
........talent
proksinitka ..........................proxeneitria...............woman
match-maker
taros.....................................tharros.......................
...courage
proskefal.............................proskefali.......................p
illow
temel....................................themelio.......................
...foundation
raftaka
.................................raftika...............................
tailor's fee
tef.....................................theiafi.........................
...........sulfur
tigan,
tigani........................tigani...............................pan
rema......................................remma.........................
.stream
rovit,
rofit................................revythi...........................c
hickpea
tiganitza.................................thganita......................
.doughnut
sasma.................................sagisma..........................h
arnessing
times.................................thymhsh...........................
.remembrance
sakuljka.............................sakoulitsa........................s
mall bag
tipkanie...............................xtyphma..........................
blow
samar..................................samari...........................
. saddle
samolad.............................samoladi.........................
sesam oil
tiran.......................................tyrannos....................
.....tyrant
saratse.................................saraki..........................
.. wood-worm, sickness
tiranija...................................tyrannia.....................
.....tyranny
safa..................................skafh.............................
... tub tif
svingar............................sfouggari............................
sponge
trap..................................trafos-tafros.....................
...ditch
sidero...............................sidero.............................
..... iron
trevlivenie..........................traylisma..........................
.stammering
sinap..................................sinapi...........................
......mustard-seed
trem...................................teremnon.........................
..eave
sinor..................................synoro...........................
...... frontier
trandafil..............................triantafyllo.....................
.....rose
skara...................................skara...........................
.......grill
skepar...............................skepari............................
....hammer
trigos..................................trygos..........................
.......vintage
skilida.................................skelida.........................
.....stick of garlic
trufenie.................................tryfh..........................
........confort
sklavje..................................sklavia........................
.... slavery, servitude
skopos................................skopos............................
. sentinel, sentry
tseresa
tseresna
tsresa
tresa.....................................kerasi........................
........cherry
skumrija...............................skoumpri.........................
.. mackerel
tsrkva.................................Kyriakh..........................
......Sunday-Church
sokarditska........................esokardi.............................
..vest
tsveklo................................seskoulo.........................
.......beet
spila....................................sphlia.........................
.............cave
ulera...................................xolera..........................
..........cholera
splina..................................splhna..........................
..........spleen
uma.....................................choma...........................
.........soil
spolaiti, spolat, spolai ........'s polla eth.................many years
urou....................................orovos..........................
.vetch
falaka,
valaka,valaga..........falaggas.......................stooks,ferule
stafida..................................stafida........................
. black current
farmak..................................farmaki.........................
.poison
Still to come pages 32-43
Regards to all ....................L.
AND:
For fair use only
from: Spirit Of The Real Makedon
(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
........The heart of Macedonia was always Greek
Idomeneas
scientific truth and dogmatism. I would not go to the grosser to fix my car
and certainly I will not base my opinion on something posted by a fanatical,
uneducated person like Lyngos. Learn how to address an article on its
contents and merit and stop trying to avoid the issue with Andriotis' crap
that are fifty years old and based on prejudice.
June R Harton wrote in message
<78eub6$9nls$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
Idomeneas
would you claim that English is Greek?
About Andriotis
All the works written between 1903 and 1913 have in common is a spirit of
militant patriotism and an eagerness to get the nation out of the corner
into which it had been squeezed after the humiliating Greco-Turkish War of
1897, to track down its foes, and eventually to take revenge. At the same
time, this spirit necessitated the classification of the Christians in
Macedonia into antithetical categories: heroes and traitors, Greeks and
Bulgarians, martyrs and bloodthirsty monsters, victims and assassins.
Tracing the real enemy was not always the easiest task. The situation in
Macedonia was obviously much more complex than contemporary diplomats wished
or than journalists presented. Unfortunately, in the following five decades
all the books on the subject, taken at their face value, reproduced
stereotypes about society in Ottoman Macedonia containing little if any
historical validity.
June R Harton wrote in message
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June R Harton
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
June R Harton
>June, you are ridiculus, there are at least 20,000 Greek words in English,
>would you claim that English is Greek?
Idio, your thinking is impaired. The two things you are relating
are non related. You are a fool.
ili...@sympatico.ca
June R Harton wrote:
> Idio, the FTCOGIAN Chimpanzee thinks he has ideas!
>
> hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>
> from: Spirit Of The Real Makedon
> (using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
>
> ........The heart of Macedonia was always MACEDONIAN
Idomeneas
Lyngos wrote:
>Due to the fact that I am getting tired, but above all due to the fact
>that I believe that I MADE MY POINT, I am ending the presentation of the
>WORDS.
Translation: Due to the fact that I made a fool of myself and exposed my
ignorance,
but above all, due to the fact that nobody is no longer even reads what I
write, I am getting
the hell out of here.
>I might copy or scan the text in English that is a much easier work and
>I'll post it on a future day
Translation : I might do what I have been always doing before, copying and
pasting from Andriotis,
but the damn book fell apart from too much handling that is impossible to
read much less scan.
June R Harton wrote in message
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>>June, you are ridiculus, there are at least 20,000 Greek words in English,
>>would you claim that English is Greek?
>
>
>Idio, your thinking is impaired. The two things you are relating
>are non related. You are a fool.
>
>from: Spirit Of The Real Makedon
> (using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
>
>........The heart of Macedonia was always Greek
>
>
>
ODOMANTIS
>
>> Idio, the GYPSY Chimpanzee thinks he has ideas!
>>
>> hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>
>> from: Spirit Of The Real Makedon
>> (using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
>>
>
>
>
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