Re: I am looking for my grandfathers village in macedonia (nerit?)
Panayiotis
"And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece."
(Strabo VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones])
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"Yannis the Macedonian" <mak...@vip.gr> wrote in message
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> "Matt" <mat...@canada.com> wrote:
> > Since you insist on being paranoid and dragging me into this: I do not
> > know Donna, and I would not use the kind of language that she (and many
> > of you) use. I do not agree with most of what she says above. Believe
> > it or not, I am not even completely on any side of your disagreement
> > about Macedonia.
>
>
> In her first post she signed as Matt but in the the sender was Donna.
Maybe
> I am confused. Sorry. I just needed a name to call. Usually I don't care
> who's speaking.
>
>
>
> > She started out trying to find out the location of a village. It's
> > hardly surprising that her prejudices rose to the surface (as yours
> > have done) when she was subjected to name-calling by some posters.
>
>
> Their ex-minister of internal afaires wrote in a newspaper that they want
> the land of Macedonia that is in northern Greece. They have no other
> serious reason to get named Macedonians.
>
>
>
> > Matt
>
>
> Sorry. I didn't want to get upset you.
> Istor
> Macedonia, Greece
>
>
Yanni,
Prossehe! Matt, Matt C ke Donna mou fenete oti ine ena ke to afto prossopo.
Panayiotis
Dorian West
> "donna" <t...@wag.net> wrote:...
>> hmmm, I had heard that there were greeks that were hostile because they
>> couldn't claim the history of macedonia as their own. Actually,
>> alexander the first was snubbed from competing in the olympic games
>> because he wasn't greek. You people seem very interested in languages
>> here, which is fine for what it's worth. Sure, there may have been some
>> bulgarian or slavic influence in that area over the years along with
>> many other influences.... however, since my grandfather was from neret,
>> if you were to pinch my head, the mitochondrial dna of philip IIs mother
>> who lived one inbred village south of nerit would come out of my ears.
>> However, if I were to pinch the heads of you wise asses, all I'd get was
>> more greek shit!!!! Macedonia never was, never has been, never will be
>> greek!!! Neither was aristotle!!! or any ptolemy!!! or cleopatraVII!!!
>> You people are delusional fascist greek homo's! And you should be nicer
>> to new people on this new group.
>
> Donna, ( Matt??)
>
> Alexander finally DID participate in the Olympics and won as Herotodus
> wrote in the same passage but SlavoSkopian propaganda hided from you.
> Did you read the letter that Gruev sent to Sofia, al little while after
> Ilinden rebellion ??
>
> Your language is Bulgarian dialect. During the last visit of your
> President
> to Sofia, Bulgarians, once again, had NO translator. The President
> himself
> corrected many times the words of the translator he had. The translation
> was a joke: The translator just repeated the words of the one part to the
> other.
>
> Blood and DNA have nothing to do with ethnicity: If I adopt your children
> I
> will make them proud Macedonians like me and not blind SlavoSkopians like
> you.
Yeah, but how do you get rid of the brute, triangle-head of the Slav? How
can your children not look like Mongols? How do you give them a
Mediterranean-like smooth head and fine features? The way I'd try to do it,
is use a cricket bat to morph the head.
> Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect
> and spread Greek language and Civilization to the World. Macedonians named
> after Greek names AAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the cities they built or
> renamed.
> What else could do to prove their Greekness? I mean what else you
> SlavoSkopians do to prove that you are SlavoSkopians ??
>
> I am nice. This does not mean that I can accept lies as true !!
> Istor
> Macedonia, Greece
>
>
mat...@canada.com
> "Matt" <mat...@canada.com> wrote:
> > Since you insist on being paranoid and dragging me into this: I do
not
> > know Donna, and I would not use the kind of language that she (and
many
> > of you) use. I do not agree with most of what she says above.
Believe
> > it or not, I am not even completely on any side of your
disagreement
> > about Macedonia.
>
>
> In her first post she signed as Matt but in the the sender was Donna.
Maybe
> I am confused. Sorry. I just needed a name to call. Usually I don't
care
> who's speaking.
>
Yes, I can see that someone put the name "Matt" at the end of the post
by "Donna". Elsewhere, someone also attempted, using the name "Donna",
clumsily to imitate my stle of writing.
"Matt C" appears to be another attempt to confuse. I suspect that both
Donna and Matt C are the creations of same person; someone who is
prepared to do anything he can to silence people he doesn't agree with.
I have annoyed a number of people who have disagreed with things I have
said. This is despite the fact that if you look back at my posts, you
will see that I have said far more positive things about Greece and
Greeks than negative ones. But to a certain (I hope)small group of
people, this is just reason for suspicion. They suspect dark plots...
There is no reasoning with such people.
>
>
> > She started out trying to find out the location of a village. It's
> > hardly surprising that her prejudices rose to the surface (as yours
> > have done) when she was subjected to name-calling by some posters.
>
>
> Their ex-minister of internal afaires wrote in a newspaper that they
want
> the land of Macedonia that is in northern Greece. They have no other
> serious reason to get named Macedonians.
>
>
I keep trying to tell people that to me it just doesn't matter. What I
see is that all parties to these disputes are people, who deserve to be
listened to and treated with respect (However, I am far from perfect,
and I do occasionally answer harsh words with the same.).
>
> > Matt
>
>
> Sorry. I didn't want to get upset you.
> Istor
> Macedonia, Greece
That's ok.
ADR
Thank you for your contributions. There are a lot of crazies in this
board but we try to keep our sanity.
ADR
Jason K. Lambrou
How about keeping your honor, you lost your sanity already
--
I don't worry about Turks,but history has taught
me to be cautious with them...GJK
Panayiotis
> What do you do with people that don't get the truth EVEN if it is
very
> simple ??
What you need to do is to have enough faith in the Truth to believe
that it will prevail in the end.
Some ancient Greek thinkers believed that knowledge leads almost
automatically to virtue; indeed, that the two of them are somewhat
synonymous. But other great minds from the Byzantine era saw that this
was over-optimistic, and that it ignored some of the sad realities of
human nature.
People are willful creatures - they often "know" what they want to
know, and such "knowledge" does not always correspond to the reality of
things...
I mean "Macedonians named after Greek names
> aaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllll the cities they built or renamed;
thus
> Macedonians were (always) Greeks" is a simple and right conclusion,
right
> ?? Well, SlavoSkopians, despite they have nothing to say on the first
part
> of the sentence, they deny the second !!
>
> You ( and I ) cannot be calm when obvious truths are set in doubt !!
> Istor
> Macedonia, Greece
Istor, this is where we differ. Why can we not be calm? This doesn't
mean that we must stop talking and trying to prove and to convince
others of the facts as we see them.
I know that all kinds of other things are bound up in this - historic
grudges, fears about territorial ambitions, etc. etc., but I am enough
of an optimist to believe that understanding is still possible when the
will to pursue it exists.
Cheers!
Matt (now, with considerable regret and reluctance, posting as
"Panagiotis")
Panayiotis
"And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece."
(Strabo VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones])
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ADR,
I believe your haste to respond with kind words to a forgerer is at least
unjustified.
Please check the sender's name in the message you replied, as well as the
ones that follow.
Panayiotis