Did Connie Chung get booted from OKC?
Steven Joseph Marzuola
following story about CBS newsperson Connie Chung. I didn't hear it
first-hand myself, and those who did don't remember the details the same
way. Here it is:
Apparently, Ms. Chung flew into Oklahoma City in the hours after the
bombing to anchor the news that evening. (I didn't watch CBS that day, but
it seems reasonable so far.) Where it gets unreal is that she is supposed
to have made some unreasonable demands for favors and/or preferential
treatment for herself or her network. In one version she is alleged to
have demanded that some extremely busy extremely emergency personnel stop
their work and talk to her; in another she was swinging her weight around
the CBS affiliate station, attempting to commandeer personnel, equipment,
or studio time for "her" show.
In both versions, within a short while the local personnel, whoever they
were, had enough of Ms. Chung and told her to go to hell. She was
supposedly "run out of Oklahoma City".
This story was repeated with glee by several relatives, who swore it is
true and that it served her right. However, several relatives who live
near Oklahoma City hadn't heard of it at all.
I'm no fan of Connie Chung, but this smells like an overnight urban legend
to me. Its "moral" is that the national news media is egotistical and
self-important, and finally some "little guy" put one of its members in its
place.
Is there any truth to this story? Has anybody else heard it?
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Molly Bowling
>In both versions, within a short while the local personnel, whoever they
>were, had enough of Ms. Chung and told her to go to hell. She was
>supposedly "run out of Oklahoma City".
>Is there any truth to this story? Has anybody else heard it?
Well, I live an hour and a half away from OKC. I understand someone is
selling T-shirts that say "Bite me, Connie." (check ok.general) But I
hadn't heard the exact circumstances until now; I just knew she
generally pissed a lot of people off.
Most of the people around OKC were collecting donations and trying to
help around that time, which would explain why so many didn't hear about
it if it actually happened.
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Bo Bradham
> marz...@owlnet.rice.edu (Steven Joseph Marzuola) writes:
>
> >In both versions, within a short while the local personnel, whoever they
> >were, had enough of Ms. Chung and told her to go to hell. She was
> >supposedly "run out of Oklahoma City".
>
> >Is there any truth to this story? Has anybody else heard it?
>
> Well, I live an hour and a half away from OKC. I understand someone is
> selling T-shirts that say "Bite me, Connie." (check ok.general) But I
> hadn't heard the exact circumstances until now; I just knew she
> generally pissed a lot of people off.
>
I saw a news article last week that reported that Chung had
had an unpleasant exchange with an Ok City cop. The article
made it sound as though she implied there was a crime wave
happening while the cops were dealing with the aftermath of
the bombing. The article did not include a transcript. The
article implied that word got out in the city that Chung had
dissed the OCPD and by implication the whole city.
Bo "Oklahoma, OK" Bradham
Bo Bradham
>
> I saw a news article last week that reported that Chung had
> had an unpleasant exchange with an Ok City cop. The article
I found the article. Chung was asking a fire dept. official
if the events were taxing the departments resources. This
appaerently fed into the local rumor mill and mutated as "Chung
said there's a crime wave 'cause our cops can't cut it. We hate
her."
Quote from the article:
"Some residents of the city criticized Chung, who is
co-anchor with Dan Rather on the CBS Evening News, after she
allegedly made a statement on air that crime in the city was
running rampant because police officers were concentrated at the
Alfred Murrah federal office building."
"Some Oklahomans feel news anchor Connie Chung slighted the city
when she asked the fire chief if the disaster would tax his
department's resources. The chief said the question was fair.
But downtown, a few people now wear T-shirts telling Chung
to stay away."
Bo "rumors happen" Bradham
Michael Rivero
I have to step in here. I worked with Ms. Chung while she was still
at the Los Angeles CBS affiliate KNXT (now KCBS). At the time, she
impressed me as a very streightforward reporter with a lot of integrity.
Sometimes, the truth can be a very threatening thing. However, I feel
Ms. Chung's question was a very reasonable one. I also find it hard
to understand how that one question could, in and of itself, cause such
a negative reaction.
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Michael Rivero
>
> Well, I live an hour and a half away from OKC. I understand someone is
> selling T-shirts that say "Bite me, Connie." (check ok.general) But I
> hadn't heard the exact circumstances until now; I just knew she
> generally pissed a lot of people off.
>
Newsgroup ok.general is not widely available. Netcom does not recognize
the name. Perhaps a few excerpts form those articles would be welcome in this
newsgroup.
Molly Bowling
>m...@rs.ucc.okstate.edu writes:
>>
>> Well, I live an hour and a half away from OKC. I understand someone is
>> selling T-shirts that say "Bite me, Connie." (check ok.general) But I
>> hadn't heard the exact circumstances until now; I just knew she
>> generally pissed a lot of people off.
>>
> Newsgroup ok.general is not widely available. Netcom does not recognize
>the name. Perhaps a few excerpts form those articles would be welcome in this
>newsgroup.
Sorry, I didn't even think of that. Here's the order information; if
you want the background (it was pretty much pure speculation and I'm
not even sure if the whole story is out *yet*) e-mail me and I'll dig it
up before it expires.
[original poster's attributes got deleted - sorry]
Midwest Printers has the (in)famous "Bite Me" shirts. The number
>>is 405-528-7841. The address is Midwest Printing; 2400 NW 23; OKC, OK
73107.
>>Proceeds go to the relief effort, of course.
Elayne Wechsler-Chaput
: I have to step in here. I worked with Ms. Chung while she was still
: at the Los Angeles CBS affiliate KNXT (now KCBS). At the time, she
: impressed me as a very streightforward reporter with a lot of integrity.
When I was going to grad school (for my MLS) a fellow student was working
for CBS. He told a number of us that people working as researchers and
archivists for the network made fun of her behind her back, and felt that
she wasn't all that bright. While I've never met her, I have to admit
that I've never seen her do or say anything to prove him wrong!
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domonkos
> I have to step in here. I worked with Ms. Chung while she was still
> at the Los Angeles CBS affiliate KNXT (now KCBS). At the time, she
> impressed me as a very streightforward reporter with a lot of integrity.
> Sometimes, the truth can be a very threatening thing. However, I feel
> Ms. Chung's question was a very reasonable one. I also find it hard
> to understand how that one question could, in and of itself, cause such
> a negative reaction.
>
>
Maybe now the media and people like Connie Chung will take an
'objective' rather than 'subjective' position. Get your facts straight
before opening your mouths, then the general public won't have
a contemptuous attitude towards network media! It doesn't feel that
good with the tables turned, eh???
ATD
Bo Bradham
I don't think I get your point, but I certainbly did not write the
words you've attributed to me. Pay attention to attributions
please.
Bo "note followups" Bradham
Eric E Swensen
The story this Oklahoma Cityan heard was that she arrived in OKC in a Large
LIMO and pushed her weight around. She apparently was expecting
PREFERENTIAL treatment from Asst. Fire Chief Hansen (married to the local
OKC female news anchor) (totally unrelated, except that she may have thought
that she would get better treatment). THey got into a "heated discussion"
she got an interview, and then was asked to leave OKC some time later. CBS
is providing a summary of this discussion for the asking. I thinks that
Asst. Chief Hansen was giving the local media first access and that may have
been the problem. I don't have all of it first hand, but most of your
orriginal assumptions are correct. Hope this adds a little more to your
discussion.
Eric Swensen
Go Sooners!
Christopher Wiles
> When I was going to grad school (for my MLS) a fellow student was working
> for CBS. He told a number of us that people working as researchers and
> archivists for the network made fun of her behind her back, and felt that
> she wasn't all that bright. While I've never met her, I have to admit
> that I've never seen her do or say anything to prove him wrong!
Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
as a banana.
Personally, I'd agree with the not-too-bright description, and add the
terms "pushy" and "petty," too.
> Steve
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Joseph Askew
> Newsgroup ok.general is not widely available. Netcom does not recognize
>the name. Perhaps a few excerpts form those articles would be welcome in this
>newsgroup.
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Rich Bland
domonkos <domo...@access.digex.net> wrote:
>> In article <D7utA...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fl...@jm.acs.Virginia.EDU (Bo Bradham) writes:
>
>> I have to step in here. I worked with Ms. Chung while she was still
>> at the Los Angeles CBS affiliate KNXT (now KCBS). At the time, she
>> impressed me as a very streightforward reporter with a lot of integrity.
>> Sometimes, the truth can be a very threatening thing. However, I feel
>> Ms. Chung's question was a very reasonable one. I also find it hard
>> to understand how that one question could, in and of itself, cause such
>> a negative reaction.
>
>Maybe now the media and people like Connie Chung will take an
>'objective' rather than 'subjective' position. Get your facts straight
>before opening your mouths, then the general public won't have
>a contemptuous attitude towards network media! It doesn't feel that
>good with the tables turned, eh???
I think its more of a case of her asking a VERY very *stupid* question.
What kind of answer did she expect?
"Uhm, no m'aam, we see this sorta thing in OKCity all the time, just
another day..."
Rich Bland
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Rob Allender
>From: r...@hooked.net (Rich Bland)
>Subject: Re: Did Connie Chung get booted from OKC?
>Date: Tue, 02 May 95 07:15:40 GMT
>Rich Bland
>r...@hooked.net
It's amazing that people will sit through this. I shut off the TV news if
there's a story like OK on. I'd rather read about it. Questions like "How
does this make you feel" are just plain dumb, but somebody always asks. Kinda
like "What color is the White House?" Everybody knows, and if everybody
knows, it's not news.
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for being an obnoxious prima donna to she was asking the fire chief
whether his resources were overtaxed.
Once again, for you students on the net, look how easy it is to get it
wrong. So easy. Especially when you want to believe something.
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: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
: as a banana.
I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
"yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
Bill Hilbrich
Student of Humanity
Jason R. Heimbaugh
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What I find interesting is how we got from Chung was booted out of OKC
>for being an obnoxious prima donna to she was asking the fire chief
>whether his resources were overtaxed.
I find it rather boorish that Chung would ask this kind of question in
the first place - the type of question whose answer is extremely
obvious, and the type of question that is extremely STUPID. Of course
the resources are overtaxed. The FD, PD and other authorities in
Oklahoma City are much too busy to be answering idiotic media
questions. One might expect a rookie reporter to ask something like
this, but not an alleged seasoned reporter like Chung.
Mark
D.C. Irving
Rinehart) writes:
>I find it rather boorish that Chung would ask this kind of question in
>the first place - the type of question whose answer is extremely
>obvious, and the type of question that is extremely STUPID. Of course
>the resources are overtaxed. The FD, PD and other authorities in
>Oklahoma City are much too busy to be answering idiotic media
>questions. One might expect a rookie reporter to ask something like
>this, but not an alleged seasoned reporter like Chung.
>
She could have asked, "Is that the front of the building, or the back?"
Her producers sent her there. One needs to look at the compleeling or
impelling organization behind the woman. News is a business media, it's
purpose is to make money. You can relistically expect such a busniess
mechanism to have humanistic interests 100% of the time, can you?
DCI
Joseph Askew
>hilb...@magellan.cloudnet.com (Bill Hilbrich) wrote:
>>Christopher Wiles (wil...@moscow.com) wrote:
>>: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American
>>: community as a banana.
>>I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
>>could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
>>"yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
It means she is yellow on the outside but white inside. Hell I'm old
enough to remember when people called Lee Kwan Yew a banana. Although
it did come as a bit of a surprise when I reada British author in the
fifties claiming he was a crypto-Communist. The term in Adelaide's
Chinese community is a coconut which has even travelled into the local
Aboriginal community. I suspect that is because we have a much higher
number of South East Asian Chinese unlike Ms Chung who is from Taiwan.
Not that she is Thai - her Father was born in China and was a General
in Chiang Kaishek's Army.
Clinton Pierce (R)
|> Christopher Wiles (wil...@moscow.com) wrote:
|>
|> : Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
|> : as a banana.
|>
|> I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
|> could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
|> "yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
|>
Her Journalism is yellow, though...
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>
> Maybe now the media and people like Connie Chung will take an
> 'objective' rather than 'subjective' position. Get your facts straight
> before opening your mouths, then the general public won't have
> a contemptuous attitude towards network media! It doesn't feel that
> good with the tables turned, eh???
>
Although this won't make the conspiracy folks happy, here is something to
think about when you talk about media bias, subjectivity and
objectivity.(The issue of subjectivity-objectivity is the single greatest
source of discussion and soul searchinging WITHIN journmalism and always
has been).
Radio and television reporters have a distinct disadvantage in reporting a
breaking story. They frequently must go on the air live with whatever
information they have and have no filter. No editor tells them to back and
check something or fill a hole. In something as confusing and chaotic as
OKC, they frequently get stuff wrong, not because they are part of a
conspiracy or stupid but because they are going on live with raw data.
Newspaper reporters have a slightly different problem: they do have
editors to act as filters, but like all reporters, they are only as good
as their sources and the sources' information. While they have often more
time to check things out (not on deadline, however), if their sources are
confused, so are their reports. If they get something wrong it is almost
always because their sources were wrong or confused or lying. Good
reporters do their best to not be victimized that way, but erroneous
information gets printed and reported on the air, not because of the arch
liberal conspiracy, but because they are reporting a complex and confusing
situation. Sooner or later they get it right most of the time, but if we
are going to demand instant journalism we have to take what we get with a
grain of salt.
Then again, if they are reporting something you don't want to hear,
obviously it must be a conspiracy. It makes you feel better than the
notion you are simply wrong.
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Ray
writes:
>
>What I find interesting is how we got from Chung was booted out of OKC
>for being an obnoxious prima donna to she was asking the fire chief
>whether his resources were overtaxed.
>
>Once again, for you students on the net, look how easy it is to get it
>wrong. So easy. Especially when you want to believe something.
>
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Exactly, we started with a request for information regarding this
situation and received many SIMILAR responses, many of which turn out
to be first-hand accounts.
Once again, for you students on the net, look how easy it is to get
information. So easy. Especially when you can't trust a journalist to
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Kirk A. Weiss
>: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
>: as a banana.
>I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
>could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
>"yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
I'm sure that is what it is although the term I've heard for
Asians-Americans is "twinkie."
And for the record:
For African-Americans "oreo cookies."
For Mexican-Americans "coconuts."
In case there is any doubt -- the use of these terms is derogatory,
offensive and just plain mean.
Kirk A. Weiss
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Why this concealing name ? Please put in the T for Technology in this
acronym ! I am looking for a general news site on the Internet. Web or
Newsgroup or e-mail-listing. I find misc.headlines a bit New Worldy, I am
just interested in facts, things happening all over the world. A good
discussion, fine, but not these endless threads, declarations of policy,
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Scott Johnson
Bill Hilbrich <hilb...@magellan.cloudnet.com> wrote:
>Christopher Wiles (wil...@moscow.com) wrote:
>
>: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
>: as a banana.
>
>I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
>could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
>"yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
>
Yup. Banana = "Yellow outside, white inside". Same sort of insult as
"Oreo".
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Arthur
simple racism. Connie Chung's face and her accent probably got her kicked
out, not her question. Whats wrong with asking a question? The "banana"
comments are also indications of sexism too. I think she should sue
Oklehomma.
Arturo Pescadero
Bob Church
ajle...@wdi.disney.com (Arthur) writes:
Sure, it must be racism. I mean, it couldn't be that they were so busy
trying to dig the children out of the day care center that they
resented being stopped for stupid questions, now could it?
Bob Church
Paul H. Henry
> Education Writers (et...@gate.net) wrote:
> : What I find interesting is how we got from Chung was booted out of OKC
> : for being an obnoxious prima donna to she was asking the fire chief
> : whether his resources were overtaxed.
>
> : Once again, for you students on the net, look how easy it is to get it
> : wrong. So easy. Especially when you want to believe something.
>
> The problem being...YOU are the one who has it wrong. She WAS being
> an obnoxious prima donna.
Well gee, Howard, we can't all be as genteel, self-effacing, and
non-judgmental as you.
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> In article <3o35a8$5...@news1.digex.net>, domonkos
> <domo...@access.digex.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Maybe now the media and people like Connie Chung will take an
>> 'objective' rather than 'subjective' position. Get your facts straight
>> before opening your mouths, then the general public won't have
>> a contemptuous attitude towards network media! It doesn't feel that
>> good with the tables turned, eh???
>>
>
> Although this won't make the conspiracy folks happy, here is something to
> think about when you talk about media bias, subjectivity and
> objectivity.
You're wasting your time, Joel. Asking the anti-media zanies to think
is like asking a hippopotamus to tap dance.
Perry B. Friedman
Arthur <ajle...@wdi.disney.com> wrote:
>I think it's quite obvious that the situation in Oklehomma was pure and
>simple racism. Connie Chung's face and her accent probably got her kicked
>out, not her question. Whats wrong with asking a question? The "banana"
>comments are also indications of sexism too. I think she should sue
>Oklehomma.
>
>
> Arturo Pescadero
Actually, they resented the fact that she couldn't spell "Oklahoma",
even though the well known song from the musical spells it out.
As for the rest of your assertion, maybe her face did get her kicked out,
but Connie has no "Asian" accent whatsoever. Do you have ANY idea what
you're talking about or are you just shooting off mindless accusations?
Personally, I think there were just upset that she's maried to that
scumbag Mauri Povich.
Perry
Bob Church
chu...@art.ohiou.edu (Bob Church) writes:
> In article <3odjdi$l...@ford.is.wdi.disney.com>
> ajle...@wdi.disney.com (Arthur) writes:
>
> > I think it's quite obvious that the situation in Oklehomma was pure and
> > simple racism. Connie Chung's face and her accent probably got her kicked
> > out, not her question. Whats wrong with asking a question? The "banana"
> > comments are also indications of sexism too. I think she should sue
> > Oklehomma.
> >
> >
> > Arturo Pescadero
>
> Sure, it must be racism. I mean, it couldn't be that they were so busy
> trying to dig the children out of the day care center that they
> resented being stopped for stupid questions, now could it?
>
> Bob Church
Ok, never mind. After resetting my newsreader to show headers, I see
it's
a troll. I think I should be forgiven the mistake. I work at a Liberal
Arts
University, so this didn't sound "unusual". In fact, it sounds like a
typical
day around here.
Bob Church
Christopher Wiles
> I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
> could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
> "yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
The latter.
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Shu Xie
: > > simple racism. Connie Chung's face and her accent probably got her kicked
: > > out, not her question. Whats wrong with asking a question? The "banana"
: > > comments are also indications of sexism too. I think she should sue
: > > Oklehomma.
: > >
: > >
: > > Arturo Pescadero
: >
: > Sure, it must be racism. I mean, it couldn't be that they were so busy
: > trying to dig the children out of the day care center that they
: > resented being stopped for stupid questions, now could it?
Okay, this discussion has been interesting, we've covered everything from
racism, to starchy fruits. I'm Asian, about to graduate from journalism
school, and grew up in the OKC area, so which side does this leave me?
While racism does exist in Oklahoma (as everywhere else), I seriously
doubt that's why some people in Oklahoma dislike Connie. Anyway, if
anyone read Don Fitz's Shoptalk recently, you'd know that she went on the
local CBS affiliate and tried to straighten this rumormill out. Besides,
who cares whether or not Connie got booted from OKC, why don't we worry
about catching the bombers?
Just my two cents worth.
David C. Parr
There was a cool story in the Post's Style section today about
how Connie was flown in to OK from half a continent away to do the
story when Dan Rather was on vacation in Texas, and had called CBS
to let them know that he was ready and willing to cover the events.
What follows are my alternative sigs to this message:
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or
Christian "Courage." Parr
or Christian Parr at the University of Maryland at College Park
intellectual home to both Jim Henson
AND Connie Chung!
AHHHHHHHHHHRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!
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James M. Rathburn
enough to admit it. The question may have been obvious to you, but not
to everyone else. Some questions that are asked have nothing to do with
the interests of the reporter, but go to the interests of the audience.
Living in Ohio, how was I to know how the resources of OK where holding
up? The only way I could find out is by listening to an official
response to the question.
Flamers such as yourself would argue just as loudly if she had said
everything was okay if she had not asked the question. You're blind hate
is exactly what precipitated this act of inhumanity. Enjoy the carnage,
you loon.
JMR
On 3 May 1995, Howard Wilson wrote:
> Education Writers (et...@gate.net) wrote:
> : What I find interesting is how we got from Chung was booted out of OKC
> : for being an obnoxious prima donna to she was asking the fire chief
> : whether his resources were overtaxed.
>
> : Once again, for you students on the net, look how easy it is to get it
> : wrong. So easy. Especially when you want to believe something.
>
> The problem being...YOU are the one who has it wrong. She WAS being
> an obnoxious prima donna. Her question was also a rather stupid one.
> Exactly what did she want to hear? That "No Ma'am, we dumb Okies jist
> can't handle thisa-here kinda thang"?
>
> Considering it was rather obvious that the situation was being handled,
> and quite well, I continue to think she is a worthless bitch, and should
> have been thrown in jail on charges of attempting to incite a riot.
>
> Howard
>
> And this is nothing against her personally. If my father had made that
> comment at that time, I say toss HIS ass in too.
>
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> Commence strategic maneuvers at audible command signal. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, begin.
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>
>
James M. Rathburn
difference in the several posts on this issue. Some have written -
"obviously they had everything under control." Others have responded as
you have, that they were overtaxed.
Sounds like a better question every day.
On 3 May 1995, Mark J. Rinehart wrote:
> >Bill Hirschman writes:
> What I find interesting is how we got from Chung was booted out of OKC
> >for being an obnoxious prima donna to she was asking the fire chief
> >whether his resources were overtaxed.
>
> I find it rather boorish that Chung would ask this kind of question in
> the first place - the type of question whose answer is extremely
> obvious, and the type of question that is extremely STUPID. Of course
> the resources are overtaxed. The FD, PD and other authorities in
> Oklahoma City are much too busy to be answering idiotic media
> questions. One might expect a rookie reporter to ask something like
> this, but not an alleged seasoned reporter like Chung.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
James M. Rathburn
Noone was pulled from the pile to answer questions.
On Fri, 5 May 1995, Bob Church wrote:
> In article <3odjdi$l...@ford.is.wdi.disney.com>
> ajle...@wdi.disney.com (Arthur) writes:
>
> > I think it's quite obvious that the situation in Oklehomma was pure and
> > simple racism. Connie Chung's face and her accent probably got her kicked
> > out, not her question. Whats wrong with asking a question? The "banana"
> > comments are also indications of sexism too. I think she should sue
> > Oklehomma.
> >
> >
> > Arturo Pescadero
>
> Sure, it must be racism. I mean, it couldn't be that they were so busy
> trying to dig the children out of the day care center that they
> resented being stopped for stupid questions, now could it?
>
> Bob Church
>
>
John Sumner
: hilb...@magellan.cloudnet.com (Bill Hilbrich) wrote:
: >: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
: >: as a banana.
: >I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
: >could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
: >"yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
: I'm sure that is what it is although the term I've heard for
: Asians-Americans is "twinkie."
: And for the record:
: For African-Americans "oreo cookies."
: For Mexican-Americans "coconuts."
: In case there is any doubt -- the use of these terms is derogatory,
: offensive and just plain mean.
O boy the pc police are at it again.
: Kirk A. Weiss
: Kir...@ix.netcom.com
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> Kirk A. Weiss (Kir...@ix.netcom) wrote:
> : hilb...@magellan.cloudnet.com (Bill Hilbrich) wrote:
>
> : >: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American community
> : >: as a banana.
>
> : >I have not heard the term "banana" before.. Is that as dumb as a banana,
> : >could it mean that Asian-Americans feel that while her skin may be
> : >"yellow", her attitude is "white"... Just Asking..
>
> : I'm sure that is what it is although the term I've heard for
> : Asians-Americans is "twinkie."
>
> : And for the record:
> : For African-Americans "oreo cookies."
> : For Mexican-Americans "coconuts."
>
> : In case there is any doubt -- the use of these terms is derogatory,
> : offensive and just plain mean.
>
> O boy the pc police are at it again.
Is it now PC to observe that some terms and words are offensive and to
express a desire to a return to politeness in public discourse? I
guess I must be politically incorrect, then, because I can't help but
notice that your brilliant and insightful comment seems to indicate
that you are, at best, two or three IQ points above Forrest Gump, if
Forrest had Dan Quayle's syntax and grammar skills. Did your Momma tell
you that life is like a box of choklits?
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: >>Christopher Wiles (wil...@moscow.com) wrote:
: >>: Connie seems to be pretty widely regarded in the Asian-American
: >>: community as a banana.
: It means she is yellow on the outside but white inside. Hell I'm old
: enough to remember when people called Lee Kwan Yew a banana. Although
Dang, thought it was a bit of surrealistic humor.
John
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