The following information has been retreived from the former
Surgeon General's Web Site.
It would appear that we have yet another world famous Doctor that
agrees Marijuana smoking and "ingesting" marijuana is stupid.
drkoop.com: Conditions And Concerns: Medical Encyclopedia
" HISTORY, INCIDENCE , AND EFFECTS OF DRUGS OR DRUG
CATEGORIES
Marijuana ("grass"; "pot"; "Mary Jane"; "dweebidge"; "reefer";
"joint"; "hashish"; "cannabis")
An estimated 50 million Americans have used marijuana at least
once.
Next to tobacco, and alcohol in some areas, marijuana is the
most popular substance chosen by young people for regular use.
The source of marijuana is the hemp plant (cannabis sativa) and
its content of THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) and other
cannaboids found in the leaves and flowering shoots of the
plant. Hashish is a resinous substance, taken from the tops of
female plants, which contains the highest concentration of THC.
The drug dose delivered from any
particular preparation of marijuana greatly varies; the
concentration of THC may vary as much as a hundred fold, due to
diluents or contaminants in the sample.
The effects of marijuana may be noted within seconds to several
minutes after inhaling the smoke (from a joint or a pipe) or
within 30 to 60 minutes after ingestion (eating foods
containing marijuana such as brownies). Because the effects are
felt almost immediately
by the smoker, further inhalation can be stopped at any time and
the effect therefore regulated. In contrast, those ingesting
marijuana experience effects that are slower to develop,
cumulative, longer lasting, and more variable, making unpleasant
reactions more likely with this method of administration.
The primary effects of marijuana are behavioral, because the drug
affects the central nervous system (CNS). Popular use of
marijuana has arisen from its effects of euphoria, sense of
relaxation, increased visual, auditory, and taste perceptions
that may occur with low to moderate doses of the drug.
Unpleasant effects that may occur include depersonalization,
changed body image, disorientation and acute panic reactions or
severe paranoia . Some cases of severe delirium and
hallucinations have also been reported. Such cases should raise
suspicion that the marijuana may have been laced with another
agent such as PCP.
Marijuana has specific effects that may decrease one's ability
to perform tasks requiring a great deal of coordination (such as
driving a car). Visual tracking is impaired and the sense of time
is typically prolonged. Learning may be greatly affected because
the drug diminishes one's ability to concentrate attention.
Studies have shown that learning may become "state-dependent"
meaning that information acquired or learned while under the
influence of marijuana is best recalled in the same state of
drug influence.
An "amotivational syndrome" may be noted in regular users.
This is characterized by a loss of energy, a lack of
concentration, impaired memory (especially short term),
decreased effectiveness and performance at school and work, and
a general lack of ambition and drive to work towards long-term
goals.
Other marijuana effects may include injected (blood-shot) eyes;
increased heart rate and blood pressure ; bronchodilatation, or
in some users, bronchial irritation leading to
bronchoconstriction and/or bronchospasm; pharyngitis , sinusitis
, bronchitis , and asthma in heavy users; reversible infertility
due to decreased sperm motility and counts in male users; and
possible detrimental effects upon the immune system.
Regular users, upon discontinuation of marijuana, may experience
withdrawal effects. These may include agitation , insomnia ,
irritability, and anxiety . Because the metabolite (the substance
formed when the body breaks marijuana down) of marijuana may be
stored in the body's fat tissue, evidence of marijuana may be
demonstrated through urine assay testing up to 1 month after
discontinuing the drug."
End Dr. Koop Report:
Doug's Comments: There was some question whether ingesting
marijuana was as harmful as smoking it. Apparently, ingesting
can be as bad or worse.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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> The primary effects of marijuana are behavioral, because the drug
> affects the central nervous system (CNS). Popular use of
> marijuana has arisen from its effects of euphoria, sense of
> relaxation, increased visual, auditory, and taste perceptions
> that may occur with low to moderate doses of the drug.
> Unpleasant effects that may occur include depersonalization,
> changed body image, disorientation and acute panic reactions or
> severe paranoia . Some cases of severe delirium and
> hallucinations have also been reported. Such cases should raise
> suspicion that the marijuana may have been laced with another
> agent such as PCP.
One should know how much one can take.
Best way to know that:
try first a bit. NEVER eat more. Wait some minutes: if you dont feel
anything: pity. Try another day to eat a bit more than what you tried the
first time. Never take more; even if you dont feel anything. As you dont
know when the effect will start, it can be that the effect will turn out to
big when you eat some extra before you start feeling something.
And which could lead to the unpleasant facts stated above.
If unpleasant facts like above occur: eat something with sugar and take some
vitamin C; this will lower the effect.
Of course one should not forget that the effect on an empty stomach is
higher than a full one.
Also: best is to make the stuff yourself (like space cake) so you know what
is put in and how much grams you have put in.
> Marijuana has specific effects that may decrease one's ability
> to perform tasks requiring a great deal of coordination (such as
> driving a car).
Duh..
> Visual tracking is impaired and the sense of time
> is typically prolonged. Learning may be greatly affected because
> the drug diminishes one's ability to concentrate attention.
No problem with that. On longer use this might get affected yes, but one
should not be stoned day in day out, right? :D
> An "amotivational syndrome" may be noted in regular users.
> This is characterized by a loss of energy, a lack of
> concentration, impaired memory (especially short term),
> decreased effectiveness and performance at school and work, and
> a general lack of ambition and drive to work towards long-term
> goals.
True. The marijuanaholics, i would call them,...
Never use ANY drugs too much. If you do, you are just stupid.
>. Because the metabolite (the substance
> formed when the body breaks marijuana down) of marijuana may be
> stored in the body's fat tissue, evidence of marijuana may be
> demonstrated through urine assay testing up to 1 month after
> discontinuing the drug."
Heard it was 3 months even. Not sure though.
> Doug's Comments: There was some question whether ingesting
> marijuana was as harmful as smoking it. Apparently, ingesting
> can be as bad or worse.
Less worse. These symptons also are referable to smoking cannabis.
The only difference is that digesting it will cause heavier effects (not the
results, but the effects of the drugs like perception and so on).
Suzan
Doug Says: Heh, eat your poison slowly is Suzan's medical
advice...and take sugar just before you die....HAHAHAHAHA.
>
> Of course one should not forget that the effect on an empty
stomach is
> higher than a full one.
> Also: best is to make the stuff yourself (like space cake) so
you know what
> is put in and how much grams you have put in.
>
> > Marijuana has specific effects that may decrease one's
ability
> > to perform tasks requiring a great deal of coordination (such
as
> > driving a car).
>
> Duh..
>
> > Visual tracking is impaired and the sense of time
> > is typically prolonged. Learning may be greatly affected
because
> > the drug diminishes one's ability to concentrate attention.
>
> No problem with that. On longer use this might get affected
yes, but one
> should not be stoned day in day out, right? :D
Doug Says: This represents only an average of one joint per day.
Even occassional use impairs brain function.
>
> > An "amotivational syndrome" may be noted in regular users.
> > This is characterized by a loss of energy, a lack of
> > concentration, impaired memory (especially short term),
> > decreased effectiveness and performance at school and work,
and
> > a general lack of ambition and drive to work towards
long-term
> > goals.
>
> True. The marijuanaholics, i would call them,...
> Never use ANY drugs too much. If you do, you are just stupid.
Doug Says: This has nothing to do with "using drugs too much."
It has everything to do with smoking only an average of one joint
per day.
>
> >. Because the metabolite (the substance
> > formed when the body breaks marijuana down) of marijuana may
be
> > stored in the body's fat tissue, evidence of marijuana may be
> > demonstrated through urine assay testing up to 1 month after
> > discontinuing the drug."
>
> Heard it was 3 months even. Not sure though.
>
> > Doug's Comments: There was some question whether ingesting
> > marijuana was as harmful as smoking it. Apparently,
ingesting
> > can be as bad or worse.
>
> Less worse. These symptons also are referable to smoking
cannabis.
> The only difference is that digesting it will cause heavier
effects (not the
> results, but the effects of the drugs like perception and so
on).
Doug Says: Like I said, it makes it worse. Duh.
Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> Suzan
>
>
>
> > One should know how much one can take.
> > Best way to know that:
> > try first a bit. NEVER eat more. Wait some minutes: if you dont
> feel
> > anything: pity. Try another day to eat a bit more than what you
> tried the
> > first time. Never take more; even if you dont feel anything. As
> you dont
> > know when the effect will start, it can be that the effect will
> turn out to
> > big when you eat some extra before you start feeling something.
> > And which could lead to the unpleasant facts stated above.
> > If unpleasant facts like above occur: eat something with sugar
> and take some
> > vitamin C; this will lower the effect.
>
> Doug Says: Heh, eat your poison slowly is Suzan's medical
> advice...and take sugar just before you die....HAHAHAHAHA.
This reaction only shows how ignorant you are concerning the use of this
drug.
Instead of throwing articles about the "danger" of marijuana on the web
which are no news to me anyway and laughing your ass off for nothing, you
should try to read some more on the use of it and maybe you should try once
yourself.
But i dont think you will. That's your choice of course.
Is this your overal reaction when someone is explaining something to you and
you dont want to hear it? Didnt they teach you at school how to show some
respect to your fellow participants in a discussion?
> > > Visual tracking is impaired and the sense of time
> > > is typically prolonged. Learning may be greatly affected
> because
> > > the drug diminishes one's ability to concentrate attention.
> >
> > No problem with that. On longer use this might get affected
> yes, but one
> > should not be stoned day in day out, right? :D
>
> Doug Says: This represents only an average of one joint per day.
> Even occassional use impairs brain function.
Temporarily yes. Show me a research wherein is stated that the use of 1
joint a month will impair brain function - for ever that is (and thus not
temporarily).
> > True. The marijuanaholics, i would call them,...
> > Never use ANY drugs too much. If you do, you are just stupid.
>
> Doug Says: This has nothing to do with "using drugs too much."
> It has everything to do with smoking only an average of one joint
> per day.
Thats too much in some way. Depends though how much you put in it and how
strong the stuff is on itself.
> > Less worse. These symptons also are referable to smoking
> cannabis.
> > The only difference is that digesting it will cause heavier
> effects (not the
> > results, but the effects of the drugs like perception and so
> on).
>
> Doug Says: Like I said, it makes it worse. Duh.
No, it doesn't...read again
sigh
Suzan
Doug Says: Suzan, I apologize for not showing you respect. But
it is difficult for me to respect someone that ingests or smokes
known poisions, and recomenndeds others to do the same, and even
provides detailed instructions on how to get the poision in their
bodies without experiencing the side effects....until of course
it is too late and those side effects kills them.
> > > > Visual tracking is impaired and the sense of time
> > > > is typically prolonged. Learning may be greatly affected
> > because
> > > > the drug diminishes one's ability to concentrate
attention.
> > >
> > > No problem with that. On longer use this might get affected
> > yes, but one
> > > should not be stoned day in day out, right? :D
> >
> > Doug Says: This represents only an average of one joint per
day.
> > Even occassional use impairs brain function.
>
> Temporarily yes. Show me a research wherein is stated that the
use of 1
> joint a month will impair brain function - for ever that is
(and thus not
> temporarily).
Doug Says: I already have. Would you like to see the research
again? The amount of time brain function is impaired is
questionable and I would suspect is based upon the amount of use.
However, many of the mental problems smoking marijuana produces
are qualified as real psychosis, which last for a lifetime if not
cured.
However, most of the information I posted deals with smoking an
average of one joint per day. Less than that is listed as
dangerous for mental function, but that issue needs much more
research in my opinion.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Doug Grant (Tm)
And not one has ever been chronically ill or died because of such use.
> The effects of marijuana may be noted within seconds to several
> minutes after inhaling the smoke (from a joint or a pipe) or
> within 30 to 60 minutes after ingestion (eating foods
> containing marijuana such as brownies). Because the effects are
> felt almost immediately
> by the smoker, further inhalation can be stopped at any time and
> the effect therefore regulated.
Which implies that there is a safe method of using it (i.e. smoking)
in which the process can be 'regulated' to the benefit of the user.
> In contrast, those ingesting
> marijuana experience effects that are slower to develop,
> cumulative, longer lasting, and more variable, making unpleasant
> reactions more likely with this method of administration.
>
Yeah, and if you eat 30 cookies filled with chocolate chips you will
get a stomach ache. Overeating does stuff like that.
> The primary effects of marijuana are behavioral, because the drug
> affects the central nervous system (CNS). Popular use of
> marijuana has arisen from its effects of euphoria, sense of
> relaxation, increased visual, auditory, and taste perceptions
> that may occur with low to moderate doses of the drug.
In other words, it enhances the senses and relaxes the user with
moderate use.
> Unpleasant effects that may occur include depersonalization,
What the hell is depersonalziation?
> changed body image,
What does this mean?
> disorientation
For the new user. However, users who have a history of use go to work
everyday and perform their jobs without disorientation.
> and acute panic reactions or severe paranoia .
Paranoia? It's not paranoia. People are attempting to arrest and
imprison people who use the substance. That's not paranoia, that's an
increased awareness of the VERY REAL PUNISHMENT that could happen as a
use of the substance. If there were no law against using there would
be no paranoia.
> Some cases of severe delirium and
> hallucinations have also been reported. Such cases should raise
> suspicion that the marijuana may have been laced with another
> agent such as PCP.
>
Laced with some other more dangerous substance marijana is dangerous?
Maybe because it is *laced with some other drug*.
> Marijuana has specific effects that may decrease one's ability
> to perform tasks requiring a great deal of coordination (such as
> driving a car).
So who says you should be driving a car? Drinking heavily does the
same thing, yet it is legal. Why the difference?
> Visual tracking is impaired and the sense of time is typically prolonged.
Visual tracking is impaired how and is it just for the duration of the
'high' or does it continue after the 'high' has diminished? As far as
the 'sense of time' being prolonged. So what? Time is relative
except on a clock. If I watch a pot while it gets to the boiling
point the sense of time is prolonged also. Does that mean that I
shouldn't boil water or that it is dangerous to watch a pot of water
get to the boiling point?
> Learning may be greatly affected because
> the drug diminishes one's ability to concentrate attention.
Then don't use it in a learning environment. It is a recreational
substance, not a learning enhancer. Lack of food does the same thing.
Why aren't we making sure everyone eats well?
> Studies have shown that learning may become "state-dependent"
> meaning that information acquired or learned while under the
> influence of marijuana is best recalled in the same state of
> drug influence.
>
So? Sounds like they should learn and test in a state of being 'high'.
> An "amotivational syndrome" may be noted in regular users.
> This is characterized by a loss of energy, a lack of
> concentration, impaired memory (especially short term),
> decreased effectiveness and performance at school and work, and
> a general lack of ambition and drive to work towards long-term
> goals.
>
So people will work less and enjoy life more. Sounds pretty good to
me.
> Other marijuana effects may include injected (blood-shot) eyes;
Visine. Gets the red out.
> increased heart rate and blood pressure ; bronchodilatation, or
> in some users, bronchial irritation leading to
> bronchoconstriction and/or bronchospasm; pharyngitis , sinusitis
> , bronchitis ,
...all effects which go away after the 'high' has run it's course.
> and asthma in heavy users;
This is not true. Unless the person already as asthma the do not
'get' asthma simply by smoking marijuana.
> reversible infertility due to decreased sperm motility and counts
> in male users;
Key words here 'reversible infertility'. Sounds like something else
that goes away with time. Not negatively affecting the user. BTW,
birth control is not a negative in an overpopulated world.
> and possible detrimental effects upon the immune system.
>
What the hell does that mean? The substance either does or doesn't.
'Possible' could mean that some other factor in the person's life may
be the contributing factor.
> Regular users, upon discontinuation of marijuana, may experience
> withdrawal effects. These may include agitation , insomnia ,
> irritability, and anxiety .
So does being unemployed, having an asshole for a boss, breaking up
with a spouse and countless other things that case 'stress' in
people's lives.
> Because the metabolite (the substance
> formed when the body breaks marijuana down) of marijuana may be
> stored in the body's fat tissue, evidence of marijuana may be
> demonstrated through urine assay testing up to 1 month after
> discontinuing the drug."
>
So? What part of that statement implies a danger, except that you may
loose a job offer because of a drug test?
> End Dr. Koop Report:
>
> Doug's Comments: There was some question whether ingesting
> marijuana was as harmful as smoking it. Apparently, ingesting
> can be as bad or worse.
>
No where is that statement made in what you posted. Kindly post the
part where that conclusion is made. Or is it not there which is why
it had to be put in your comments as opposed to quoting from the
document?
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