From Argufest!
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the Portuguese and later Viceroy and Governor of the Caribbean Islands
where he oversaw the killing of 8 million indigenous people. Celebrants
of Columbus Day say they are simply celebrating their Italian heritage
and the "discovery" of America. I myself am of German dissent but I
don't celebrate Hitler out of German pride. And as for this
"discovery", it led to the slaughter of tens of millions of
indigenous people during Columbus' time and continuing long after
with serious effects still felt today. Is this something we should
celebrate? Columbus Day as a holiday began in Colorado exactly 100
years ago. It is a state and federal sponsored holiday that should end
immediately. Please read more about this issue at
www.transformcolumbusday.org and come out to the events happening this
week and show your support of ending this flagrant slap in the face to
indigenous people all over.
On Friday there will panel discussions about the "Doctrine of
Discovery" and others followed by the All Nations Four Directions
March at 5pm. Then make sure you come out on Saturday, Oct. 8 at 8pm to
the west steps of the Capital in Denver Protest the State-sponsored
celebration of genocide and the Convoy of Conquest
-Jason Bosch, ArgusFest director
Panel Discussions
Fri. Oct. 7th, North Classroom 1535, Auraria Campus
"Legacy of Columbus: The Doctrine of Discovery," 9:00 - 11:00am
"Film: To Protect Mother Earth," 11:30am - 12:30pm
"How to teach our children some truths about Columbus," 1:00 - 3:00pm
All Nations, Four Directions March (flyer)
Fri. Oct. 7, 5:00pm
People will begin gathering at 5:00 PM and step off 5:30 PM SHARP at
the following locations:
The West Direction will gather at Viking Park located at 29th
Federal/Speer (free parking next to St. Dominics and Escuela) Please
wear black t-shirts/clothing from this direction
The North Direction will gather at Globeville Landing Park on 38th and
Arkins (free parking there) Please wear Red t-shirts/clothing from this
direction
The East Direction will gather at Speer Blvd & Larimer Street (near
water falls) (paid parking available at Auraria campus) Please wear
yellow t-shirts/ clothing from this direction
The South Direction will gather at the Fishback Landing park adjacent
to REI off 15th & Platte (free parking there) Please wear white
t-shirts/clothing from this direction.
The Medicine Wheel formation will be made of all peoples of conscience
for the visualization of Peace, inclusivity of all Nations, legislation
for the transformation of the Columbus Holiday and the racism of
anti-immigration.
Drums from all Nations are invited. Please bring banners identifying
your organization/group, lots of water, dress your children warmly,
bring candles and come prepared to experience the spirit in the earth,
wind, fire and water.
In peace and solidarity,
Red Earth Women's Alliance
<<<<<FILMS THIS WEEK>>>>>
1. In the Light of Reverence
2. The Persuaders
3. To Protect Mother Earth
4. T.V.'s Promised Land
All films have a $5 suggested donation. No one will be turned away but
please help support ArgusFest if you can. Thanks!
In the Light of Reverence
Tuesday, October 4
7:00 pm
Quetzalli Art Gallery
928 W. 8th Ave, Denver
Click here for map
Across the USA, Native Americans are struggling to protect their sacred
places. Religious freedom, so valued in America, is not guaranteed to
those who practice land-based religion. Every year, more sacred sites -
the land-based equivalent of the world's great cathedrals - are being
destroyed. Strip Mining and development cause much of the destruction.
But rock climbers, tourists, and New Age religious practitioners are
part of the problem, too. The biggest problem is ignorance.
IN THE LIGHT OF REVERENCE tells the story of three indigenous
communities and the land they struggle to protect: the Lakota of the
Great Plains, the Hopi of the Four Corners area, and the Wintu of
northern California.
The Persuaders
Wednesday, October 5
7:30 pm
Blutoste Java
3937 Tennyson St, Denver
Click here for map
Frontline examines the "persuasion industries" -- advertising and
public relations. To cut through consumers' growing resistance to their
pitches, marketers have developed new ways of integrating their
messages into the fabric of our lives, using sophisticated market
research techniques to better understand consumers and turning the
little-understood techniques of public relations to make sure their
messages com from sources we trust.
To Protect Mother Earth
"A gripping, contemporary story of the Western Shoshone peoples fight
to save Indian ancestral lands from illegal seizure and nuclear
destruction." - National Congress of American Indian
Thursday, October 6
7:00 pm
Mercury Cafe
2199 California St, Denver
Click here for map
The award-winning documentary narrated by Robert Redford, To Protect
Mother Earth, is a gripping account of the continuing battle between
Native Americans and the U.S. Government. This film features
internationally recognized Western Shoshone Grandmothers and human
rights activists Mary and Carrie Dann. The Dann sisters are heroines
with deep convictions rooted in their history and oral traditions.
Their intelligence towers over the faint attempts by government
attorneys to overwhelm them with jargon. The film is a deeply personal
portrait of the traditional Shoshone people as they hunt, gather, and
pray - and as they demonstrate their ties to the land in an
extraordinary confrontation at the Nevada nuclear test site. Just as
the sisters are driven by their traditional Indian belief that land is
life, spiritually and economically, the life of MOTHER EARTH lies in
that land, photographed in all its majesty."
T.V's Promised Land
Sunday, October 9
6:00 pm
Auraria Campus, North Classroom
Room 1535
9th Ave & Auraria Pkwy, Denver
(free parking in Tivoli lot on Sundays)
Click here for map
Disney's ALADDIN, INDIANA JONES.., Warner Brothers' cartoons of crazed
Middle Eastern villains, international terrorists... These are
America's pop culture depictions of Arabs and Muslims.
With TV'S PROMISED LAND, director Nicholas Dembowski creates a clever
montage of found footage from Hollywood movies, cable news networks,
European news broadcasts, American Westerns, etc. The accumulated
evidence powerfully asserts that Western media has long demonized a
catch-all "Arab/Muslim world" via selective coverage and dehumanizing
imagery that boosts the "good vs. evil" rhetoric of politicians and
pundits like George W. Bush, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and Bill
O'Reilly. By offering no narration or other commentary of its own, TV'S
PROMISED LAND lets news outlets, Hollywood and politicians incriminate
themselves.
Flint_...@hotmail.com
Conquistador...he da one...and he ain't gone no where...he still
round...
fact he actively take part in da anti-C day festiviteez ever year...
smilin and hangin out, makin like he waz a skin...Bwahahaha...
and don no one see...all da while he smilin bout how he gotz dem dumb
ndndz pissin on da Italianoz, etc., etc., etc....
sometime he even git out der and yell round wit da red hair'd fool,
Glenn Morris...da udder dood makin like a skin...makin foolz o ndndz...
But you likez dat eh, proto...duz it makez ya all warm and fuzzyeee?
Flint_...@hotmail.com
University of Colorado-Boulder. "If I were to show up and pull out a
statement then it would be all about me,..."
aozo...@aol.com
> it weren't only chris and da Italianoz ya know...it waz Don...Don
> Conquistador...he da one...and he ain't gone no where...he still
> round...
>
> fact he actively take part in da anti-C day festiviteez ever year...
>
> smilin and hangin out, makin like he waz a skin...Bwahahaha...
>
> and don no one see...all da while he smilin bout how he gotz dem dumb
> ndndz pissin on da Italianoz, etc., etc., etc....
>
> sometime he even git out der and yell round wit da red hair'd fool,
> Glenn Morris...da udder dood makin like a skin...makin foolz o ndndz...
>
> But you likez dat eh, proto...duz it makez ya all warm and fuzzyeee?
Hard to say, I will be out honoring the land on Saturday!
But on to Flints main gripe against Christo Columbus:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_4124465,00.html
excerpt:
Columbus did kill and enslave Indians, whatever historical context you
favor. And not everyone liked Columbus even in his own time. He was
sent back in chains to Spain, accused of mistreating Europeans.
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Yep Flint will never forget Ole Chris for mistreating Europeans and for
others from keeping Custer from becoming his Fav President in History!
But more on the controversy:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3084754
Article Launched: 10/04/2005 01:00:00 AM
AIM offers deal on Columbus parade
The group will cease protests if city leaders denounce the event, but
the mayor says that would only inflame the debate.
By Amy Herdy
Denver Post Staff Writer
Members of the American Indian Movement of Colorado promised to cease
protests of the Columbus Day parade if the mayor and City Council honor
requests that include denouncing the parade and reviewing how U.S.
history is taught.
"We're saying, 'You won't halt this racist event, so will you at least
end the ignorance in our community?"' said Leslie Andrews, a member of
AIM and mother of three young sons. "At least give a chance to Indian
children who get belittled in our educational system by prejudices and
lies about their people."
Mayor John Hickenlooper, who last week enraged groups on both sides
with a letter that said he was "sick and tired of this entire costly,
frustrating and potentially dangerous situation," declined the group's
request.
"Any opinions on the content of your speech or theirs will merely
inflame the issue even more, making future progress on these issues
even more difficult," Hickenlooper wrote. "Our primary focus remains
the protection of public safety and First Amendment rights."
AIM on Monday wrote city officials to say it and its allies would not
protest the parade if the mayor and members of the council agreed to
declare Columbus Day divisive and endorse an effort to replace the
state and national holiday; facilitate a dialogue between
Italian-American and American Indian groups; use part of the money
saved from policing the event for American Indian projects in Denver;
and endorse a review of Columbus Day and U.S. expansion policy in
Denver public-school curricula and declare that such teachings must
comply with the statute requiring accurate accounts of American Indian
history.
The letter outraged members of the Italian-American community.
"Even if he wanted to denounce the parade, the mayor can't speak for me
and all the citizens of Denver - he would be offending everybody's
First Amendment rights," said George Vendegnia, founder of the Sons of
Italy-New Generation and a Columbus Day parade organizer.
If AIM wants to create a dialogue, Vendegnia said, it should start with
the parade committee and not with supporters of an alternative Italian
festival.
Using money that is spent on parade security for Indian people would
not be fair, he said, as they are the ones who created the costs. As
for reviewing Denver Public Schools history curricula, Vendegnia said:
"We can't rewrite history. That would be like asking God to rewrite the
Bible."
Anna Vann, a parade organizer, agreed.
"The revenue spent on parade day is inexcusable on the part of the
protesters, and to even think that those funds should be spent solely
on the part of American Indians, absurd," Vann said. As for DPS
education, "There have already been changes made, which I don't
personally agree with," she said. "My job, as a parent, is to show my
child the differences of both sides."
Meanwhile, Glenn Morris of AIM said that until the mayor and council
members agree to the proposal, activists will continue with their plans
to protest the parade.
"It's very unfortunate the city is squandering yet another opportunity
to avoid tension and conflict in the streets," he said in response to
Hickenlooper's letter.
The parade has been controversial for years. Opponents say that to
celebrate Columbus is to celebrate the genocide of Indian people, while
parade organizers say it is an expression of their free-speech rights
that honors Italian heritage.
In his letter Monday, Hickenlooper said the city is "always willing to
help facilitate a constructive dialogue between the American Indian and
Italian- American communities and encourage both communities to
continue trying to find common ground on their own as well."
He said he would forward the request for a review of history curricula
to DPS Superintendent Michael Bennet.
aozo...@aol.com
So, you will out drinkin' beer with Ward on Saturday then Flint????
Flint_...@hotmail.com
Dang...iz it a schizm er What?!
Flint_...@hotmail.com
what?...da concrete in civic center park...oopz...sorry...
i fergot dat shit iz sacred to ya eh?
oh...and you can keep yer maginary soap dramaz to yerself...
Mirro, Mirror on da wall...right proto?
Flint_...@hotmail.com
demandin, (like dey givez a shit) termz o negotiation?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Flint_...@hotmail.com
mean...youz da Shit right?
ain't dat what it'z really all bout...usin us to dissolve your
overgrown sense o GUILT and NEED fer importance...
like ya really did sumpin fer da ndnz, spoke up fer dem against dem Bad
italianoz...
ya might fool some dumb skinz wit dat crap but ya better know...derz
lotz more who'd jezt a soon donate some grain to ya, eh?
aozo...@aol.com
> honerin da land?...BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
>
> what?...da concrete in civic center park...oopz...sorry...
St. Vrain State Park Wetland Restoration - east of Longmont
Date: October 8, 2005
The 600 acre St. Vrain State Park is an ideal location for a variety of
outdoor enthusiasts, including fishermen, campers, birders,
photographers, hikers, bikers, and boaters. The park boasts some
of northern Colorado's best warm-water fishing. The parks master
plan calls for extensive habitat restoration and expansion of
recreational opportunities over the coming decade. WRV volunteers
will plant shrubs, trees, and wetland plants, salvage plants, and
remove noxious weeds to restore wetland habitat.
There is much work to be done at St. Vrain Park to transform it into
the gem of habitat and recreation envisioned in the master plan. WRV
will use this year's project as a focal point to help form a
"Friends of St. Vrain State Park" group devoted to this long term
vision. Number of Volunteers: 80 to 100. Min. Age: 10 with an
adult.
King Amdo
"I myself am of German dissent but I
don't celebrate Hitler out of German pride. And as for this
"discovery", it led to the slaughter of tens of millions of
indigenous people during Columbus' time and continuing long after
with serious effects still felt today"
....so you're saying you've got a problem with United States ideology?
aozo...@aol.com
Flint_...@hotmail.com wrote:
> good ting da lurch ain't goin...der ain't nuff room fer both o ya...i
> mean...youz da Shit right?
Never have!
>
> ain't dat what it'z really all bout...usin us to dissolve your
> overgrown sense o GUILT and NEED fer importance...
Am, I makin' too many demands on you Flint? Do you feel I control you
or anybody else?:
or:
For the Native American and Italian American people, the argument
always comes back to Columbus. According to De Sanctis, Columbus is an
American hero. For many Native American groups, including both
Minneapolis and Colorado AIM, Columbus was akin to a 15th century
Hitler.
"In Germany, if Hitler would have won there would have been statues of
him all over the place and no one would see any problem with that
because they are the winners," said Ann-Erika White Bird, a junior
English major at CU and member of Colorado AIM. "That's how the U.S.
is. Hitler won."
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>
> like ya really did sumpin fer da ndnz, spoke up fer dem against dem Bad
> italianoz...
Well, I guess Ward and MYself will bve no shows; but you and Tancredo
will be on the Christo floats no doubt:
http://www.westword.com/Issues/2005-10-06/news/calhoun.html
excerpt:
Does Tancredo, who'll be Yankee-doodling his way through Denver's
Columbus Day parade on Saturday, have a favorite patriotic song?
Apparently not from Zanna's CD -- and not even a whole song, at that.
"But I do have a favorite line from one," Tancredo offers. "It's 'We'll
put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.' Toby Keith, I think. I
hum it a lot."
Or, as Zanna might sing it:
No lawyers, no politicians, no more BS...
This time, dear Pancho Villa, we're gonna kick your ass.
>
> ya might fool some dumb skinz wit dat crap but ya better know...derz
> lotz more who'd jezt a soon donate some grain to ya, eh?
i did not make the rules:
or:
Let's get it right people. Columbus wasn't the first European to
discover the Americas; it was Leif Ericsson, a Nordic explorer, who
happened to reach Newfoundland in 1001 CE.
The truth is Columbus exploited the kindness of the natives he
encountered when landing on where is modern day Haiti in 1492. Take for
instance a quote from Columbus' log upon arriving in the Caribbean:
"They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a
sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of
ignorance...With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do
whatever we want."
When he returned to Spain after that first expedition, Columbus lied by
reporting to Ferdinand and Isabella that there were vast fields of gold
to plunder.
The Spanish Royalty and sent Columbus back the Caribbean with 17 ships
for the second journey under the assignment of acquiring as much gold
as possible
In order to make the gold quota, Columbus enslaved several thousand of
the natives (Arawaks) and forced them to labor in merciless conditions.
If the natives provided them with the "proper" amount of gold they
received a copper medallion to wear around their neck.
Those who did not provide enough gold to receive a medallion had both
of their hands chopped off.
http://www.westword.com/Issues/2005-10-06/news/feature_2.html
But that revisionism falls on deaf ears where Denver's Columbus Day
Parade Committee is concerned. "I don't care how they want to rewrite
history," Vendegnia says. "Columbus was just a great navigator, and
I'll debate that with anybody."
Full story:
http://www.westword.com/Issues/2005-10-06/news/feature.html
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aozo...@aol.com
Seems there are other protest out of your Control also Flint!
Best fly to them to show un how it is Flint:
http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/06/4344a3c2baca0Native
American Cornellians Protest Columbus Day
October 06, 2005
by Emily Gordon
Sun Staff Writer
Donning signs that read such phrases as "I was not discovered,"
"Eradicate injustice - stop celebrating Columbus Day" and "What
did Columbus discover? That he was lost?" the Native American
Students at Cornell (NASAC) held their annual rally yesterday on Ho
Plaza in order to voice protest over the celebration of Columbus Day.
Columbus Day, as most people learned in elementary school, is a
celebration of the discovery of the "New World." However, for
people of Native American descent, it is a reminder of the beginning of
the destruction of their society.
Nicole Wheeler '07, member at large of NASAC, announced a resolution
that NASAC wants to present to the University. This "Resolution of
Support" requests that the name "Columbus Day" be changed to
"Indigenous People's Day." The purpose will be to make the focus
of the day more on celebrating the achievements and contributions made
by these people instead of the destruction they faced at the hands of
Columbus.
"We've been thinking about the resolution for a while now," said
Ben Koffel '07, secretary of NASAC and organizer of the rally,
"we're hoping today we were able to introduce it to the community
... [we think that] this is in better accordance with the ideals of the
University."
The rally consisted of various speakers, voicing to the audience their
views on why this day should not be celebrated in the way that America
does so now. It was the general consensus among the speakers that this
day should be more focused on indigenous peoples.
"The University should be considerate not only of the injustices that
occurred, but of the many contributions indigenous peoples have made to
culture," Koffel said.
One speaker, Jason Corwin '02, teaching staff Schwartz Center, called
the events following Columbus's voyage "clearly and unequivocally
genocide."
"Why do people feel the need to celebrate genocide," he said.
"The crimes [committed by Columbus] were just as bad as Hitler's.
Hitler was stopped - Columbus's legacy continues." Corwin also
went further, calling George Washington a 'terrorist,' and said
that in fact every U.S. president since him has been given the
translated name of 'town destroyer.'
According to Corwin, every single treaty between Native Americans and
the United States has been violated by the U.S.
Another speaker, Dana Brown, coordinator of the Committee on U.S.-Latin
American Relations (CUSLAR), said that recent invasions of countries
showcase the US's "thirst for conquest."
"By saying 'no' to Columbus and his day," she said, "we are
saying 'yes' to a future of respect and equality."
NASAC plans to continue to host events for the rest of October and into
November. Celebrating American Indian History month, NASAC will hold a
variety of public outreach programs, some dealing with the impact of
Columbus on Native American society.
http://www.arbiteronline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/06/434545ed997ae
Students to hold Columbus Day march on Capitol Building to challenge
holiday
by Tessa Schweigert / Asst. News Editor
October 06, 2005
Not every American child celebrates Columbus Day by learning the rhyme
about 1492 and Christopher Columbus sailing the ocean blue. In 17
states, Columbus Day is not recognized at all. Some Boise State
students are doing their part to make Idaho the 18th state that
doesn't observe this holiday.
Bryan Moore, the president of the Intertribal Native Council of BSU, is
organizing a march from the BSU Student Union Building to the Idaho
State Capital Building to encourage recognition of indigenous
populations instead of Columbus. The march will leave at 2:30 p.m. from
the Fireside Lounge in the SUB on Monday, Oct. 10.
Moore said the march is intended to bring awareness to the history of
indigenous groups affected by Columbus and other such explorers.
"It's not a protest," Moore said. "There's false things being
presented in U.S. history and we want others to take a look at it."
Moore said Columbus is not the hero American history remembers him as.
Rather, he killed Native Americans and cannot be credited with
discovering North America because Native Americans were already living
in the Americas. Columbus never set foot in North America, nor did he
even believe he had discovered a new land, Moore said.
"Why do we celebrate Columbus?" Moore asked.
After the march, Nancy Egan, president of the Boise based Woman of
Color Alliance, will speak on the steps of the Capital Building at
approximately 3 p.m. Moore said he hopes the event spreads education
and awareness.
According to Moore, most people don't consider that Columbus wasn't
the first person in North America, but that indigenous people dwelled
here before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. The holiday should
commemorate them, not Columbus, Moore said.
Associated Students of BSU Sen. Phetsamay Joy Olson said, growing up in
Hawaii, she didn't learn about Columbus the same way Idaho students
did.
"I learned it differently," she said. Hawaii is one of the 17
states that does not observe the holiday.
Moore said the march is open to students of all races, not just
indigenous people groups. He said he hopes the march becomes an annual
event until the Idaho Legislature passes a bill not to celebrate
Columbus Day.
Moore said a BSU organization marched the Idaho State Capitol to
encourage the observance Martin Luther King Day, which it now does.
Moore said he hopes BSU students today can have the same impact.
Duane
discussion, whatever anyone may think of Columbus, the rulers from his own
country were alot worse. If any explorers came back empty handed with
nothing to show in the way of conquests or gold they were either imprisoned
or executed.
In other words, what about the rulers who sent him here to conquer the
continent? Maybe people should burn King Ferdinand, Queen Isabella of Spain
AND Columbus in effigy on Columbus day. The trick would be in finding a way
to do it without getting arrested! /o:
Kris
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/columbus2.html
King Ferdinand's letter to the Taino/Arawak Indians
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/038.html
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aozo...@aol.com
> Columbus was a genocidal mad man for sure. However just the sake of
> discussion, whatever anyone may think of Columbus, the rulers from his own
> country were alot worse.
And Nicholas Ovando was a lot more worse than Columbus in Espanola but
we don't honor the Spandish rulers or Ovando on Columbus Day
If any explorers came back empty handed with
> nothing to show in the way of conquests or gold they were either imprisoned
> or executed.
>
> In other words, what about the rulers who sent him here to conquer the
> continent? Maybe people should burn King Ferdinand, Queen Isabella of Spain
> AND Columbus in effigy on Columbus day. The trick would be in finding a way
> to do it without getting arrested! /o:
And it was not hard:
The conquistadors sent the Arawaks to South Africa to work in the gold
mines and pearl beds, but many Arawaks committed suicide to escape this
enslavement. The gold plundering continued until 1521 when larger
reserves were discovered in Mexico.
but I also know that a major problem the Spanish crown had was
conquistadors bringing
back gold for themselves hidden in the bows of the ship! Often the
gold they brought for the crown was very small in comparison to the
gold they hid in the ships for themselves! I image this may have been
and attempt to counter that trend!
But your basically right:
An Indian chief who was being executed was about to be baptized. The
priest promised him that if he did get baptized, he would go to
paradise. He asked the priest:"Are there any Spaniards in your
heaven?". The priest responded that only good ones go to heaven. At
those words, the chief refused the baptism retorting that "even the
best one of them is worth nothing; I do not want to go to any heaven
where I stand to meet one"
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And Remember In the sphere of international relations between countries
or groups of people, there exists the concept of the 'Thucydides'
system of international relationships!' This can best be summed up as
to what the Athenians had to say to the people of Melos - an ally of
Sparta:
For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious
pretenses-either of how we have a right to our empire because we
overthrew the Mede or are now attacking you because of wrong that you
have done us-and make a long speech which not be believed . . . since
you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in
question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and
the weak suffer what they must . . .And it is not as if we were the
first to make this law, or to act upon it when made, we found it
existing before us and shall leave it to exist ever after us.
Flint_...@hotmail.com
whoz legit N whoz infiltrated?
don worry nonz...da Provacetuerz will show ya...