Illegals, illegals everywhere -- BUT WHO PAYS?:
Red Cloud
Rising of fat obese Mexicans. Young teen Mexican girl carrying around
anchor babe
in her belly..Many did not wed. Out of wedlocked children are very
popular in Mexican
culture. Just watch my eye on Mexican kids from school, more than
half are fat and obese.
I've never seen so many fat and obese children in Mexican body than
any other ethnic body.
Of course, what the prevalent most among these Mexicans are more than
half are illegal alien
or so called "Anchor babe". Their parent are illegal. They get free
money from state.
More anchor babe means more money they receive free from the state.
You may wonder why
homelessness all you see around my city are not Mexicans because they
get free housing
but White people. Yes White people are homeless here because the first
priority of the
HUD (House of Urban Development) recipient in the list is the Mexican
anchor babe, not US born citizen. Get it!!!! No wonder these rising
Mexican illegal and anchor babies have caused
CAlifronia largest financial deficit ever....And the deficit will
never get better...It only gets
worse forever.....
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(California has only 50 days left according to the news before they
are
totally broke. Companies providing goods and services under state
contract can't pay their personnel or suppliers, or their TAXES with
Arnold's I.O.U.s)
CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or
Independent
From a California school teacher - - -
'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and
income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting,
are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When
I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but
a
full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a
Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and
trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT
WORK)
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The
school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the
inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family
watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for
anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new
computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month
later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who
obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in
America
.. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
teachers
whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the
country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female
teachers, calling them 'Putas' ( whores ) and throwing things, that
the
teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc, etc. Is
it
any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to
demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
Americans We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a
disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in
their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world
culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting
pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to
assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and
worried
about 'political correctness ' that we don't have the will to do
anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
everyone
you know.
CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth
, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
takes a job for
$5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no
income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax
Return, he gets an 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI.
Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare . All of this is
at (our) taxpayer's expense.
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed
material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after
paying their bills and his.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and
trash
clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!
THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS
THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL
GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE . .
--
martin
Deport every single illegal alien. These talented and magnificent
folks and their anchor babies
should be blessing for Meheco and points south, Also, deport all
illegal alien asians and europeans.
tt
http://www.americanworker.org/ American Worker
*us*
Shuurai
> Make a note of it.
True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
jane
> Make a note of it.
Let me present a few scenarios:
1) Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
2) Presume that you owned an apartment building. Would you think it
is an illegal activity for a family to move into one of the empty
units without your permission?
3) Presume you have a rather extensive and large back yard. Would
you consider it an illegal activity for a family to start building a
house on your back yard.
Jane.
YouPick
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Rabid Weasel Lawson
> Make a note of it.
You're RIGHT!
Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
"Criminals." So, more accurately, these folks should be referred to as
*CRIMINAL* Aliens.
Thanks for clearing this up! :)
*us*
>True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
>here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
Just like the pilgrims.
*us*
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
would starve without their efforts.
*us*
>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
Roselles's Nemesis
No one owns the land.
The guvmint can take it away tomorrow under "eminent domain" to build
a school for illegal aliens.
Roselles's Nemesis
Yup.
Shit do happen.
With the illegal aliens today and those in ancient history.
Roselles's Nemesis
>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>>"Criminals."
>
>So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
>
>After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
>do you?
>
>In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Bush was a left-wing wimp who favored open borders, amnesty for
illegals, set asides ...
And he should have nuked Damascus, Teheran, and Baghdad in response to
Muslim terrorism .... for starters.
But those flaws don't merit him being prosecuted for war crimes.
Shucks, just the opposite. He should be prosecuted for wimp crimes.
>Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
>would starve without their efforts.
I'm all for paying higher wages to American citizens to harvest the
crops.
I don't mind paying more for a head of cabbage if it keeps illegals
out.
Bert Hyman
Because there's now a legal system in place which recognizes deeds and
titles for real property.
Do you recognize the legal system that's in place in the United States?
Do you believe that the United States government should be able to
control immigration into this country?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
ObamaNation is an Abomination
What we need to do is go to the Pilgrim graveyard, dig 'em, up, and
kill 'em. But fist we should burn 'em at the stake. Aren't they the
ones who killed witches as well as Indians?
YouPick
"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CB266ED035...@216.250.184.7...
The United States Government..does not own anything. *Everything* is owned
by *those* with money..nd as we know *Money=Power*.
Long gone are the days when *Your* "government" was for The People &By The
People....
Just as Normal is a setting on a washmachine.
There is no *legal system* in place anywhere within the borders of *your
government*....try telling that to those with money &power who want what you
have.
:)
YouPick
"ObamaNation is an Abomination" <libera...@anywhere.net> wrote in message
news:4ae85f4c...@news.datemas.de...
It's *ideas* that you have to kill...nd when you do go nd digum up..make
sure you recycle the wealth buried with *them*...it *is* there..if you look
hard enough.
:)
ObamaNation is an Abomination
wrote:
Yeah, I hear they buried Sylvester Smythe with two gold chalices, his
gold pocket watch, and his violin.
I'll be sure to retrieve 'em.
lorad
> Normal Healthy People Don't Consider Other People 'Illegal'
> Make a note of it.
Sure they do.. that's exactly how criminals are identified and
apprehended by police.
This is what they do:
1) identify a criminal on the street
2) Question the criminal to ascertain the identity of the criminal
3) Arrest the criminal
4) Adjudicate the criminal's offences
5) If necessary send the criminal back to mexico.
Any questions?
Bert Hyman
wrote:
>:)
Does that mean everything you said should be treated as a joke?
That would be the most charitable interpretation; I'd hate to think you
meant to be taken seriously.
YouPick
Well Bert..sitting down there in St.Paul,MN...you are at liberty to *take*
anything I may say with whatever poops into your *way of thinking*.
But This Ole Injun tries never to speak with forked-tongue. may you forever
be free to find your own interpretations as you will.
wayne george :) Anishinabe Nation
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>>"Criminals."
>
> So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
Bush and Cheney have immigrated to the U.S. illegally? Wow, I had no
idea! Thanks for bringing this to our attention! Will you be reporting
them to INS?
> After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
> do you?
"The winners write the history books."
> In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
>
> Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> would starve without their efforts.
I assume you are implying that "Criminal Aliens" are harvesting the food
and I would somehow starve if non-criminals harvested instead.
First, that's an interesting theory. Due to the fact that I've eaten food
grown locally and harvested by non-Criminal immigrants, I am fairly
certain that I won't starve from the process. You know, speaking based
upon experimental evidence.
Second, actually, I don't "despise" them. Honestly, there are a number of
criminals that I rather like. Similarly there are a number of
non-Criminals that I *do* "despise." Compliance with the law is not the
only criteria that I, personally, judge a person on. However, compliance
or non-compliance with the law *DOES*, by definition, define whether or
not a person is a Criminal. Again, glad that got cleared up.
Anyway, I'm happy that you are on board with correcting the improper
language of "Illegal Aliens" to the proper English term "Criminal Aliens."
English Teachers everywhere appreciate your support!
(IH)
Rabid Weasel Lawson
I can't believe you're digging out that old bit. Perhaps you didn't hear,
but currently archaeological data shows that those poor folks who had
their land supposedly "stolen" by europeans, actually stole the land from
the folks there before them, who stole the land from the folks there
before THEM.
I don't see you whining that the "native americans" should vacate thier
claims.
Hypocrite.
(IH)
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> Because there's now a legal system in place which recognizes deeds and
> titles for real property. Because there's now a legal system in place which recognizes deeds and
titles for real property.
Do you recognize the legal system that's in place in the United States?
Do you believe that the United States government should be able to
control immigration into this country?
There was a similar system then too.
> Do you recognize the legal system that's in place in the United States?
England had one at that time. The U.S. *REVOLTED* against the Lawful
rulers: England. But, you see, we won the war so we get to decide what
was right and wrong. Same thing happened with the people where were
squatting on this land before the europeans got here. I hate to say
"might makes right" but in this case, that's how it worked, even if we
don't like it.
> Do you believe that the United States government should be able to
> control immigration into this country?
Sure. As long as we have the ability and the will to do so. Guess which
one seems to not be there?
Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk
Red Cloud
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <law...@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
> >"Criminals."
>
> Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> would starve without their efforts.
Wow!!!! Every citizen of the world would be starve to death if there
is no Mexican
farm worker picking the vegetable. Who is picking the vegetable in
Japan, Sweden, Germany, Holland? How many Mexican farm worker in
Japan, Sweden?
ZERO. Not only no wetback in Japanese farm, A plenty of clean
vegetable are harvest in japanese harm. No wonder japanese are
living longer than any citizen of the world.
Deport wetback out of the US farm. US family must start farming their
own yard and support their family. When the trouble and bad economic
hit, their farm will protect
from starvation. No need to rely on Mexican farmers. Start own garden
and farming.
That's the first and foremost rule to protect your family and the best
survival method.
NO NEED FOR WETBACK FARMER!
Red Cloud
I hate to agree but "might makes right is a nature of human
behavior. Peace can only be possible if all citizen all nations
must participate in same thing. I rather
say might nakes right sound like Dariwin's evolution theory. I even
suggest that
Global Warming theory is a socio-evolution theory. All citizen of of
all nation participate in human evolution. I came to believe that is
the responsibility of mankind. If a nation does not participate, the
nation must be conquered to make
the citizen evolved. There is no other way. Mexican/Hispanic will not
participate in bring down their fertility rate. Human evolution
brought down the population growth by control except Third World
nation like Mexico. Rising Mexican population can only destabilize
and drop back to 100 or 200 yr which suggests evolution is not
natural. It's mankind conscious action. So Mexicans taking over
America will be throwback 100 or 200 yr or even farther.Specifically,
it will be like Mexico today. So as there is a Mexicans population,
so goes is a dirt corrupt rotten state. Wetback nation is the one
of the most corrupted nation in the world.... More corrupt and more
racist and more segregated than USA.
Red Cloud
> > wrote:
>
> >>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
> >>"Criminals."
>
> > So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
>
> Bush and Cheney have immigrated to the U.S. illegally? Wow, I had no
> idea! Thanks for bringing this to our attention! Will you be reporting
> them to INS?
>
> > After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
> > do you?
>
> "The winners write the history books."
>
> > In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
>
> > Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> > would starve without their efforts.
>
> I assume you are implying that "Criminal Aliens" are harvesting the food
> and I would somehow starve if non-criminals harvested instead.
>
You know that pro-Mexican crowd and anti-Americans are too pride that
criminal low wage illegal are pick the vegetable that is so valuable
that
Americans will be starve death if not pick by Mexican illegals.
It's same bullshit I've heard how Mexican illegals are working so
hard to
support their family. So Americans are all not working and not
supporting
their family. Did you know that Cesar Chavez fought against illegal
alien
working in farm and cutting the wage? Pro-illegal alien crowd did't
touch on
that on. They were too busy parading Chavez's picture in street and
how
humane he was trying to protect illegal alien.. Of course, they are
all liars.
> First, that's an interesting theory. Due to the fact that I've eaten food
> grown locally and harvested by non-Criminal immigrants, I am fairly
> certain that I won't starve from the process. You know, speaking based
> upon experimental evidence.
>
> Second, actually, I don't "despise" them. Honestly, there are a number of
> criminals that I rather like. Similarly there are a number of
> non-Criminals that I *do* "despise." Compliance with the law is not the
> only criteria that I, personally, judge a person on. However, compliance
> or non-compliance with the law *DOES*, by definition, define whether or
> not a person is a Criminal. Again, glad that got cleared up.
>
> Anyway, I'm happy that you are on board with correcting the improper
> language of "Illegal Aliens" to the proper English term "Criminal Aliens."
> English Teachers everywhere appreciate your support!
>
> (IH)
Whether Illegal alien or Criminal Aliens, either does not illegalize
and not even
arrest and deport it. This is all about politic. Mexican activists
do know how
this political system works. They have huge influence in a local
politic in order to make illegal legal by demonizing it's opponent.
This is going on in any city
or county going through conflict with illegal alien problem. Their
political power supported by La Raza will make it their way no matter
how costly it is.
Bert Hyman
Red Cloud <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Peace can only be possible if all citizen all nations
> must participate in same thing.
Is this a call for a global police state?
*us*
>The guvmint ...
It'd be you, if you weren't too stupid/lazy to abolish electronic 'voting'.
*us*
wrote:
>... .I had no
>idea! ...
That's obvious.
You support criminals who truly harm you, while
whimpering hatefully about those who feed you.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
*us*
>... hate to think ...
You sure do.
*us*
>... criminals ...
You'd be better off if you could figure out who's
really doing you harm vs who's feeding you.
*us*
>... illegal aliens...
You've misspelled "humans".
Why are you so filled with hate for people?
*us*
>... should have nuked ...
So you confess that you're a terrorist.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
*us*
wrote:
>...whining ...
You want to complain about, and hate, the people
who are putting food in your mouth.
*us*
>Because there's now a legal system in place ...
Your idols Bush and Cheney don't agree with you.
*us*
>... the
>ones who killed ...
You sure are fond of mass murders, bushfilth.
*us*
>...Who is picking the vegetable ...
You don't know? No surprise there.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008266752_opin15delgado.html
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
*us*
>... Third World
>nation like ...
You like spending trillions on war crimes, but won't spend a dime on health.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
You think that all 7 billion people on the Earth should be allowed to
enter the US?
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Chaiman Mao, Stalin, Uncle Ho, Senor Fidel, Pol Pot .... Your heroes.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD
LABOR..
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED
INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM
AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY
AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO
POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET A JOB, A DRIVERS
LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH
CARE, A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON AND IN MANY INSTANCES YOU CAN VOTE!
Thank you, liberals !
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Check it out, boy:
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD
LABOR..
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED
INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM
AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY
AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO
POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET A JOB, A DRIVERS
LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH
CARE, A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON AND IN MANY INSTANCES YOU CAN VOTE!
Thank you, liberals !
*us*
Abomination) wrote:
>...CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
Are you saying that the perpetrators of the illegal invasion of Afghanistan
should face capital punishment?
I still insist that Bush and Cheney could be forced to face justice, but in the
form of skillfully-induced epiphany.
>... A JOB, A DRIVERS
>LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
>SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH
>CARE, A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON AND IN MANY INSTANCES YOU CAN VOTE!
Jealous?
>Thank you, liberals !
Liberals created the USA, but the follower of
Stalin and Hitler hates liberals, and in fact
hates most Americans.
*us*
How long do you imagine they'd all stay?
If you weren't an unintelligent, fearful, weak specimen,
you'd be able to learn how to share. In fact, if you
weren't damaged/defective, you'd have done so
by the age of 7 or 8.
*us*
>... the
>ones who killed ...
You sure are fond of mass murders, bushfilth.
You are mindlessly afraid of those who can't harm you,
as you kneel and worship those who do harm you.
*us*
>...YOU CAN VOTE!
You can't: the electronics will 'vote' for you.
*us*
>...anti-Americans are too pride that
It prevents you from becoming educated, doesn't it.
>It's same bullshit I've heard ...
You shouldn't just keep believing those voices in your head.
>... did't
>touch on
>that on. ...
>all liars.
Tell us the one about the mushroom cloud in 45 minutes, again.
>... illegalize
Oppressing and then incarcerating helpless people is the modern
equivalent of slavery. It is inhumanly cruel, but quite profitable.
To impoverish, sicken, and then imprison defenseless people for
myth-based 'judgement' makes a few profiteers a lot of money.
>... demonizing it's [sic] opponent.
Don't worry: you do it so incoherently that you provide ample
public proof that you hold your views due to your mental defect.
>... no matter
>how costly it is.
What's your tab for those illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq
looking like these days?
Shuurai
> >True; the people themselves are not illegal. The fact that they are
> >here in this country without proper documentation is illegal.
>
> Just like the pilgrims.
Not at all like the pilgrims. The natives of North America never had
immigration laws to break.
Shuurai
> >...whining ...
>
> You want to complain about, and hate, the people
> who are putting food in your mouth.
I can't speak for Kirk, but the person putting food on my table is
me. I work for a living.
It's a common claim among liberals, and among corporations that like
to exploit the illegals, that these people are doing jobs that
Americans "won't do" and that if they weren't here it would have some
sort of major impact on food prices and whatnot. Both claims are
ridiculous.
The fact of the matter is there are Americans who would take those
jobs; and there are in fact some who DO take those jobs. Second, the
actual savings that are seen via hiring illegals tend to bolster
profits rather than affect food prices.
Sending these people home would reduce unemployment for legal
citizens, and would greatly reduce the strains on our medical system,
our legal system, and on social services in general. But instead, our
government (and it's not just Obama, the last three administrations
were just as bad) follows policies that encourage more to come.
Shuurai
> >... criminals ...
>
> You'd be better off if you could figure out who's
> really doing you harm vs who's feeding you.
The strain placed on the system by illegal workers greatly outweighs
any financial savings made by hiring them; especially if you're
looking at those savings actually making their way to the consumer.
> >Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
> >"Criminals."
>
> So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
What crime did they commit, specifically? The war was fully
authorized by Congress, who had access to all of the same intelligence
that Bush and Cheney did.
> After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
> do you?
There were no "finding" - it was the opinion of one chief prosecutor
who has also argued that Hiroshima was a war crime as well.
> In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Almost as much as Obama's first year of spending.
> Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
> would starve without their efforts.
First off, wanting people to stop breaking the law does not mean we
"despise" them - and they ARE breaking the law - it just means that we
want them to stop breaking the law.
Second, the notion that people would "starve" without their efforts is
utter bullshit. Food prices in this country are unaffected by illegal
workers; for fucks sake we still shelve crops every year to keep
prices UP in this country. The savings that corporations make goes
towards their own bottom line; it rarely if ever finds it's way to the
consumer.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:37 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (Abomination) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:49:46 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:58 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>>>>... illegal aliens...
>>>
>>>You've misspelled "humans".
>>>
>>>Why are you so filled with hate for people?
>>
>>You think that all 7 billion people on the Earth should be allowed to
>>enter the US?
>
>How long do you imagine they'd all stay?
Forever.
Else they wouldn't have come in the first place.
And because they're crossing illegally, they're bringing their
diseases and thug relatives with 'em.
Duh.
>If you weren't an unintelligent, fearful, weak specimen,
>you'd be able to learn how to share. In fact, if you
>weren't damaged/defective, you'd have done so
>by the age of 7 or 8.
So how many of your family members are waiting at the Rio Grande, eh
Pablo?
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Bush should be your hero, Paco.
He also supported open borders and amnesty for illegals.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Actually, Stalin was a Marxist, just like Obama, Pelosi, and company.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
food.
Rather pay more money for a head of cabbage than pay for welfare
programs for illegals and put up with their crime and disease.
*us*
>...The natives of North America ...
You don't speak for them. You don't even represent
your own best interests.
Fascists always want to demand someone's "papers".
*us*
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>...whining ...
*us*
>... placed on the system by illegal workers ...
They contribute more than you ever could.
"Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural work crews,
who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:35:17 -0700 (PDT), lorad <lora...@cs.com> wrote:
>... criminals ...
You'd be better off if you could figure out who's
really doing you harm vs who's feeding you.
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:55 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO13074SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>Normal, Healthy people consider folks that commit illegal actions to be
>"Criminals."
So you support bringing the war criminals Bush and Cheney to trial, right?
After all, you don't disagree with the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals,
do you?
In perspective, those traitors cost the USA too much.
Meanwhile, you're eating food harvested by those you despise, and you
Shuurai
> >... placed on the system by illegal workers ...
>
> They contribute more than you ever could.
Spoken like a true twelve year old. You are twelve years old,
right?
> "Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural work crews,
> who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
Nobody is disputing the fact the number of workers who are illegal.
YOUR claim was that people would "starve" without these illegal
workers, and you have no basis whatsoever for that claim.
Shuurai
> >...The natives of North America ...
>
> You don't speak for them.
History speaks for them. And history shows that they had no
immigration laws for outsiders to break. You don't get to pass laws
centuries after the fact and then declare them broken.
> You don't even represent your own best interests.
Oh wow, this should be fun... what, according to the whisperings of
the spiders in your skull, are my best interests?
> Fascists always want to demand someone's "papers".
Liberals always want to deflect and call names when it's clear that
their argument has no merit.
Tater Gumfries
Abomination) wrote:
> I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
> food.
That would require wage controls. Ain't no way to pay over minimum
wage for pickin lettuce and tomatoes and make a profit. Folks will
just switch over to South American growed veggies.
> Rather pay more money for a head of cabbage than pay for welfare
> programs for illegals and put up with their crime and disease.
You might rather, but that would take a whole lot of government
interference. Can't have that, not with Nafta in effect.
Tater
Roselles's Nemesis
>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT), jane <jane....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
>>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
>
>Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
No one owns the land.
The guvmint can take it away tomorrow under "eminent domain" to build
a school for illegal aliens.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
<TaterG...@usa.com> wrote:
>On Oct 29, 10:29=A0am, liberalss...@anywhere.net (ObamaNation is an
>Abomination) wrote:
>> I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>> food.
>
>That would require wage controls. Ain't no way to pay over minimum
>wage for pickin lettuce and tomatoes and make a profit. Folks will
>just switch over to South American growed veggies.
We already get a huge share of SA produce.
I don't want the pickers to make baseball-player wages, just raise
them to the point that attracts younger citizens.
>> Rather pay more money for a head of cabbage than pay for welfare
>> programs for illegals and put up with their crime and disease.
>
>You might rather, but that would take a whole lot of government
>interference. Can't have that, not with Nafta in effect.
Laws are already in place to halt illegals.
That's the problem; we don't enforce 'em.
Enforce them against the employer. Then the illegals can ply their
trade in SA. Most citizens will realize that it'll be cheaper in the
long run to buy American produce.
>Tater
>
>
>
ObamaNation is an Abomination
<TaterG...@usa.com> wrote:
>On Oct 29, 10:29=A0am, liberalss...@anywhere.net (ObamaNation is an
>Abomination) wrote:
>> I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>> food.
>
>That would require wage controls. Ain't no way to pay over minimum
>wage for pickin lettuce and tomatoes and make a profit. Folks will
>just switch over to South American growed veggies.
We already get a huge share of SA produce.
I don't want the pickers to make baseball-player wages, just raise
them to the point that attracts younger citizens.
>> Rather pay more money for a head of cabbage than pay for welfare
>> programs for illegals and put up with their crime and disease.
>
>You might rather, but that would take a whole lot of government
>interference. Can't have that, not with Nafta in effect.
Laws are already in place to halt illegals.
Tha's the problem; we don't enforce 'em.
>Tater
>
>
>
O'Brien
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:50:10 -0400, * US * wrote:
>
> >>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
> >>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
>
> >Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
>
> No one owns the land.
>
> The guvmint can take it away tomorrow under "eminent domain" to build
> a school for illegal aliens.
"Illegal Aliens" yeah - they're called "amerikans".
Roselles's Nemesis
<seals...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 29, 12:26=A0pm, h...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:50:10 -0400, * US * wrote:
>> >On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT), jane <jane.pla...@gmail.com> w=
>rote:
>>
>> >>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
>> >>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
>>
>> >Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
>>
>> No one owns the land.
>>
>> The guvmint can take it away tomorrow under "eminent domain" to build
>> a school for illegal aliens.
>
>"Illegal Aliens" yeah - they're called "amerikans".
10-20 million of 'em are.
Yep.
*us*
>I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>food.
Prove it, lying bushfilth ssucker.
You don't even want Americans to have healthcare.
You hate the vast majority of Americans, bushkultie.
*us*
>Bush should be ...
He should be brought to justice for his war crimes, ssucker.
*us*
>Actually, Stalin ...
He and Hitler hated liberals, and you imitate them, bushssucker.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:49 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an
*us*
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:49:46 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:58 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>>>... illegal aliens...
>>
>>You've misspelled "humans".
>>
>>Why are you so filled with hate for people?
>
>You think that all 7 billion people on the Earth should be allowed to
>enter the US?
How long do you imagine they'd all stay?
If you weren't an unintelligent, fearful, weak specimen,
you'd be able to learn how to share. In fact, if you
weren't damaged/defective, you'd have done so
by the age of 7 or 8.
Notice that you have no ability to dispute the fact that
the typical immigrant contributes more to society than
you ever could, parasite.
*us*
>...want to deflect and call names ...
Of course you do.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...The natives of North America ...
You don't speak for them. You don't even represent
your own best interests.
Fascists always want to demand someone's "papers".
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:55:26 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
*us*
>No one owns the land.
Then you have no basis for your belief in a 'border'.
*us*
long before those of anyone who tries to reject them.
*us*
>...You are twelve years old,
>right?
You a pedophile?
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:16:17 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... placed on the system by illegal workers ...
They contribute more than you ever could.
"Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural work crews,
who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
*us*
>Nobody is disputing the fact the number ...
You're incoherent.
They contribute $7 billion per year to Social Security ...
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
*us*
>...would "starve" without these illegal
>workers...
You sure would, you ungrateful waste of oxygen bushfilth.
"Growers admit that in California between 80 and 90 per cent of agricultural
work crews, who plant, tend and harvest crops, are illegal immigrants"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:37 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (Abomination) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:49:46 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:58 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>>>>... illegal aliens...
>>>
>>>You've misspelled "humans".
>>>
>>>Why are you so filled with hate for people?
>>
>>You think that all 7 billion people on the Earth should be allowed to
>>enter the US?
>
>How long do you imagine they'd all stay?
Forever.
Else they wouldn't have come in the first place.
And because they're crossing illegally, they're bringing their
diseases and thug relatives with 'em.
Duh.
>If you weren't an unintelligent, fearful, weak specimen,
>you'd be able to learn how to share. In fact, if you
>weren't damaged/defective, you'd have done so
>by the age of 7 or 8.
So how many of your family members are waiting at the Rio Grande, eh
Pablo?
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:13:24 GMT, su...@anywhere.net (Abomination) wrote:
>
>>... the
>>ones who killed ...
>
>You sure are fond of mass murders, bushfilth.
>
>You are mindlessly afraid of those who can't harm you,
>as you kneel and worship those who do harm you.
Bush should be your hero, Paco.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
Actually, Stalin was a Marxist, just like Obama, Pelosi, and company.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:33:57 -0400, * US * wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:49 GMT, libera...@anywhere.net (ObamaNation is an
ObamaNation is an Abomination
ObamaNation is an Abomination
(ObamaNation is an Abomination) wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT), Tater Gumfries
><TaterG...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 29, 10:29=A0am, liberalss...@anywhere.net (ObamaNation is an
>>Abomination) wrote:
>>> I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>>> food.
>>
>>That would require wage controls. Ain't no way to pay over minimum
>>wage for pickin lettuce and tomatoes and make a profit. Folks will
>>just switch over to South American growed veggies.
>
>We already get a huge share of SA produce.
>
>I don't want the pickers to make baseball-player wages, just raise
>them to the point that attracts younger citizens.
>
>
>>> Rather pay more money for a head of cabbage than pay for welfare
>>> programs for illegals and put up with their crime and disease.
>>
>>You might rather, but that would take a whole lot of government
>>interference. Can't have that, not with Nafta in effect.
>
>Laws are already in place to halt illegals.
>
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT), jane <jane....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>...Would you think it to be an illegal activity for a family to move
>>into, and take up residence, in your house without your permission?
>
>Why do you imagine you'd own land your ancestors stole?
No one owns the land.
The guvmint can take it away tomorrow under "eminent domain" to build
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
> wrote:
>
>>...whining ...
>
Yes, WHINING, you hypocrite.
You know, pissing and moaning like a little girl.
> You want to complain about, and hate, the people
> who are putting food in your mouth.
I work for a living, not leach off of other folks like a Welfare Queen.
(IH)
*us*
>On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:49:46 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:02:58 GMT, ho...@home.net (Roselles's Nemesis) wrote:
>>>... illegal aliens...
>>
>>You've misspelled "humans".
>>
>>Why are you so filled with hate for people?
>
>You think that all 7 billion people on the Earth should be allowed to
>enter the US?
How long do you imagine they'd all stay?
If you weren't an unintelligent, fearful, weak specimen,
you'd be able to learn how to share. In fact, if you
weren't damaged/defective, you'd have done so
by the age of 7 or 8.
Notice that you have no ability to dispute the fact that
the typical immigrant contributes more to society than
you ever could, parasite.
You only want harm to Americans, while immigrants
contribute to Americans' quality of life.
*us*
>Bush should be ...
He should be brought to justice for his war crimes, ssucker.
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:13:24 GMT, su...@anywhere.net (Abomination) wrote:
>... the
>ones who killed ...
You sure are fond of mass murders, bushfilth.
You are mindlessly afraid of those who can't harm you,
as you kneel and worship those who do harm you.
Your idols Bush and Cheney have betrayed you.
*us*
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:29:25 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an Abomination) wrote:
>Actually, Stalin ...
He and Hitler hated liberals, and you imitate them, bushssucker.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:49 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an
*us*
wrote:
>...WHINING...
>...pissing and moaning like a little girl...
>I ...
No one had asked for you.
They contribute $7 billion per year to Social Security ...
http://usliberals.about.com/od/immigration/a/IllegalImmi.htm
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT), Shuurai <shuu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...the person putting food on my table is
You should know:
"large parts of the economy rely on illegal workers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/03/uselections2008.usa
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:32:45 -0500, Rabid Weasel Lawson <lawson@NO21931SPAM+dayton.net>
wrote:
>...whining ...
You want to complain about, and hate, the people
*us*
Those people have ancestors who were in the Americas
long before those of anyone who tries to reject them.
The bigot can't process such facts.
*us*
>No one owns the land.
Then you have no basis for your belief in a 'border'.
Baseless beliefs are the specialty of the mindless.
*us*
*us*
>...not in America...not an American.
If you were on the same side as America, you'd realize
that the real enemies of the USA are Bush and Cheney,
not those who harvest foods Americans eat.
*us*
>We could simply call them what they are
>and that would be criminals...
Bush and Cheney are, anyway.
Those who feed you aren't.
*us*
to bite the hand that feeds him.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:29:32 GMT, ss...@anywhere.net (an Abomination) wrote:
>I'm all for paying a living wage to American citizens to harvest the
>food.
Prove it, lying bushfilth ssucker.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:50:58 -0400, * US * wrote:
>Illegals do the jobs that whites don't do.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hispanic gangs target Blacks in Los Angeles
US News
'Mara 18' gang members EPA/Gustavo Amador
Newsweek is reporting that Federal prosecutors say a powerful Latino
gang systematically targeted rival black gang members and innocent
black civilians in a reign of terror.
Reporter Andrew Murr writes that a south Los Angeles Latino street
gang targeted African-American gang rivals and other blacks in a
campaign of neighborhood "cleansing," federal prosecutors say.
"Alleged leaders and foot soldiers in the Hispanic gang Florencia 13,
also called F13, are being arraigned this week on charges stemming
from a pair of federal indictments that allege that the gang kept a
tight grip on its turf by shooting members of a rival gang�and
sometimes random black civilians," writes Murr.
The "most disturbing aspect" of the federal charges was that "innocent
citizens � ended up being shot simply because of the color of their
skin," U.S. Attorney Thomas O'Brien told reporters in announcing the
indictments, according to the Newsweek report.
Murr cites that drug turf wars are at the heart of the enmity beteen
the gangs of Latinos and the Blacks.
"L.A. Sheriff's Department statistics chart the war's violent toll: 80
gang-related shootings in the past three years, including 20 murders,"
writes Murr.
The indictments provide a telling snapshot of the changing nature of
gangs in south L.A. According to federal prosecutors, F13 has grown
into a tightly controlled gang of 2,000 members in 30 cliques led by
convicts and parolees who are members of the prison-based Mexican
mafia, reports Murr.
Murr cites that the eighties saw the reign of the black drug gangs,
including the Crips and the Bloods, mining the crack epidemic with
ruthless efficiency.
Murr writes: "Compared with looser Latino gangs that were seen as
turf-conscious fighters, the black gangs were organized and
disciplined. 'The stereotype was that [the black gangs] were all about
the [drug] business,' says gang researcher Cheryl Maxson, an associate
professor of criminology at University of California, Irvine. With the
black gangs, 'there was a millionaire in every neighborhood' perched
at the top of the crack distribution pyramid, adds gang expert, who
edits streetgangs.com."
A flip in power and structure and organization has occorred, according
to Olivia Rosales, she a hard-core gangs prosecutor for the L.A.
district attorney's office who prosecuted F13 and Crips homicide cases
for two years.
Murr reports Rosales heads one of the DA's satellite offices.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>We illegals are building nice communities.
25-50% of all gangsters arrested in northern and western Virginia are
estimated to be deportable aliens. Gang investigators estimate that
90% of the members of MS-13, the most notorious immigrant gang, are
illegal aliens.
More MS-13 members have been nabbed in Virginia than any other ICE
jurisdiction in the country (261 arrests out of an estimated
population of 2,000 in the state). Nearly 80% of the 341 ICE gang
arrests in Virginia were members of MS-13. The remainder belonged to
28 other gangs.
Immigrant gangsters are responsible for serious and often violent
crimes in Virginia. Nine of those arrested by ICE in the last three
years were murderers, and six were sex offenders. Their most common
crimes were assault and robbery/larceny.
Gangsters tend to work by day in construction, landscaping, farming,
and day labor, and at night are involved in organized crime including
drug dealing, prostitution rings, theft, and extortion.
62% of alien gangsters arrested in Virginia by ICE were from El
Salvador, 12 % were from Mexico, and 10% from Honduras.
Immigration law provides powerful investigative authorities not
available to local or even other federal LEAs. In addition, federal
immigration law provides special measures to encourage cooperation of
witnesses and informants, and to protect victims of crime.
Researchers found no �chilling effect� on the reporting of crime as a
result of partnerships with ICE. Immigrant community leaders do have
an important role to play in reinforcing the message that crime
victims and witnesses are not targets of immigration law enforcement.
Immigrant gangs are multiplying and spreading out across the state,
and both ICE and state and local LEAs believe they would benefit
greatly from receiving more formal training in immigration law,
documentation and related issues that apply to criminal aliens.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>We illegals know how to treat females.
Illegal aliens linked to gang-rape wave
The crime epidemic no one will talk about?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Chelsea Schilling
Member of gang Mara Salvatrucha (NPR.org)
A wave of illegal-immigrant gang rapes is sweeping the U.S. while
public officials and law-enforcement authorities fear drawing the
link, experts say.
Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, a Ph.D. researcher of violent crimes, told
WorldNetDaily, "It appears as if there is a fear that if this is
honestly discussed, people will hate all illegal immigrants. So there
is silence. � But in being silent about the rapes and murders, it is
as if the victims never even existed."
Schurman-Kauflin, who runs the Violent Crimes Institute in Atlanta,
participated in a 12-month, in-depth study of illegal immigrants who
committed sex crimes and murders from January 1999 through April 2006.
The study found approximately 240,000 illegal-immigrant sex offenders
reside in the United States � while 93 sex offenders and 12 serial
sexual offenders come across U.S. borders illegally every day.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>You should cherish illegals.
Illegal immigrants burden Portland-area schools
By Guest Columnist
October 03, 2009, 5:01PM
By Richard F. LaMountain
In 1982, in its Plyler v. Doe ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court obligated
America's public elementary and secondary schools to educate children
who are illegal immigrants. Since then, Americans have doled out
untold billions to this end.
With a new school year recently begun, let's look at what Plyler costs
taxpayers in one Portland-area school district: No. 48 in Beaverton.
As children from Latin America comprise the great majority of students
here illegally, we'll start by examining some national statistics
regarding Hispanics and work our way down to the local level.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, some 34 percent of the more than
45 million Hispanics residing in America are under 18. The Pew
Hispanic Center estimates that Mexico and its southern neighbors
contribute four-fifths of our illegal immigrants (commonly believed to
number 12 million to 20 million); the Federation for American
Immigration Reform, that some 15 percent of illegal immigrants are
school-aged children. However sensitive the fact may be, what all this
means is that between 9.4 percent and 15.6 percent of Hispanic
children in America are here illegally.
From these figures, how many Hispanic illegal-immigrant students can
we estimate are enrolled in the Beaverton School District?
In the most-recently completed (2008-09) school year, according to the
district's Website, student enrollment was 37,552; 7,702 of the
students were Hispanic. Between 724 and 1,202 of those Hispanic
students -- 9.4 percent to 15.6 percent of their total number --
likely were here illegally.
What did they cost taxpayers?
According to the district, in 2008-09 Beaverton schools' base
per-student expenditure was some $8,400 (the general-fund operating
budget of $315.6 million divided by student enrollment of 37,552).
Each English-language learner -- which, by very conservative estimate,
likely included half, or between 362 and 601, of the district's
Hispanic illegal-immigrant students -- cost taxpayers another $3,000.
More, each child participating in the free- and reduced-lunch program
got a federal subsidy of some $260. Washington County's Hispanic
children, according to the county's Commission on Children and
Families, are four times more likely to live in poverty than its white
children; possibly three-quarters of the district's Hispanic
illegal-immigrant students, then, received taxpayer-subsidized
lunches.
So the total estimated cost of Beaverton School District's Hispanic
illegal-immigrant students in the 2008-09 school year: between $7.3
million and $12.1 million. Add the estimated one-fifth of
illegal-immigrant students who are other than Hispanic, and taxpayers
likely spent between $9.1 million and $15.2 million educating and
feeding all the district's illegal-immigrant students -- an amount
equal to 2.8 percent to 4.8 percent of the general-fund operating
budget.
Now, to counter recession-induced budget shortfalls, in the past year
Portland-area schools have reduced teaching staffs, increased
classroom sizes, and slashed extracurricular activities. It must be
asked: If not for illegal-immigrant students, how many new teachers
could have been hired and existing ones retained? How much more
attention could teachers devote to their other students? How many arts
and athletic programs could be saved or expanded?
The bottom line is this: Americans do not owe educations to illegal
immigrants. Our first, foremost, and most sacred responsibility is to
our own children. And we beggar our children's education -- and future
-- when we spend scarce tax dollars on those who are in our nation
illegally.
Portland-area school boards should lobby Oregon's Congressional
delegation to introduce legislation to overturn Plyler, and to allow
America's school districts to require proof of U.S. citizenship or
legal U.S. residence from their students.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>After we cross your borders illegally, we become legal and respect the law.
Illegals Trying To Kill Police Officers For Gang Initiation
Americans For Legal Immigration are reporting that a South Carolina
law enforcement officer was targeted by illegal Hispanics as a gang
initiation. ALIPAC reports:
�We have confirmed the authenticity of the document below that is
being circulated to police officers in the South Carolina area. The
Department of Homeland Security has released this advisory to
officers. Interrogations of the suspects indicate that the attempted
murder of South Carolina deputy was a gang initiation. Lexington
County Sheriff Deputy Deputy Ted Xanthakis and his K-9 police dog
partner were attacked by three illegal aliens with a shotgun but
survived on Feb. 8, 2009.
The DHS memorandum we have obtained indicates these illegal aliens
were part of SUR-13, which is a known illegal alien membership as well
as illegal alien and drug importing paramilitary gang.�
�.
�Lexington County Sheriff James R. Metts said the two men and
15-year-old boy opened fire with a 12-gauge shotgun while Deputy Ted
Xanthakis and his K-9 police dog partner, Arcos, were in Xanthakis�
marked patrol car. Pellets from the shotgun damaged the door frame and
windows on the passenger�s side of the patrol car. Xanthakis and Arcos
were not injured.
Deputies arrested Carlos Alfredo Diaz De Leon, 17, of 600 Ermine Road,
Lot 697, West Columbia, and Lucino Guzman Guttierrez, 20, of 600
Ermine Road, Lot 504, West Columbia, on a charge of assault and
battery with intent to kill, Metts said. De Leon and Guttierrez were
being held on Sunday at the Lexington County Detention Center while
awaiting bond hearings. In addition to being charged with assault and
battery with intent kill, De Leon was charged with unlawfully
possessing a handgun and driving without a valid driver�s license.
Deputies also took custody of a 15-year-old boy, who was being housed
on Sunday at a pre-trial detention facility on Broad River Road in
Columbia that is operated by the South Carolina Department of Juvenile
Justice, Metts said. The boy will be housed at the facility until he
appears for a hearing in family court in Lexington County. Detectives
will recommend that the boy be prosecuted in family court on a charge
of assault and battery with intent to kill. Under South Carolina law,
Metts cannot identify the 15-year-old boy because the boy is a child.�
This comes on the heels of Obama�s new head of Homeland Security,
Janet Naplitano, an open border advocate who had turned Arizona into
the kidnap capital of the world and is responsible for hundreds of
deaths and rapes of its citizens, declaring to congress that she will
investigate her department because of a gang related raid by
immigration on a machine shop that employed illegals
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>We illegals pay our own way.
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INVASION USA
$2.2 trillion illegal alien
taxpayer sticker shock
2/3 of immigrants cost Americans
$22,449 a year, shows new study
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WASHINGTON � Someone has finally fixed an approximate taxpayer cost of
between 12 million and 15 million illegal aliens residing in the U.S.
A new study by the Heritage Foundation's Robert Rector found a
household headed by an individual without a high school education,
including about two-thirds of illegal aliens, costs U.S. taxpayers
more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits. That same
family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in
a net tax burden of $22,449 each year.
Over the course of the household's lifetime that tax burden translates
to $1.1 million.
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If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for
estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion.
"Would any of us buy shares in a company that we knew would produce a
loss of a million dollars a share," asks Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, in
response to the study. "Cheap labor is not cheap at the cost of over a
million dollars per head of household."
Rector's study, "The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Households to the U.S.
Taxpayer," examines the economics of the 17.7 million American
households made up of people without a high-school degree. Using
numbers from the Census Bureau, the Congressional Research Service,
the Bureau of Labor Standards and other government agencies, Rector
determined what they earn, what they spend and what they receive in
government services.
About half of the 17.7 million households studied are illegal aliens.
About two-thirds of illegal alien households are headed by someone
without a high school degree. Only 10 percent of native-born Americans
fit into that category.
"Over the next ten years the total cost of low-skill households to the
taxpayer (immediate benefits minus taxes paid) is likely to be at
least $3.9 trillion," Rector writes. "This number would go up
significantly if changes in immigration policy lead to substantial
increases in the number of low-skill immigrants entering the country
and receiving services."
ObamaNation is an Abomination
>We illegals are good drivers.
For a detailed report on what is happening on the roads and highways
of the East Coast see the article Harvest of death on the Eastern
Shore where it is reported that while 5% of the population in the area
is Hispanic they are involved in 25% of the fatal traffic accidents,
an astounding 5 times as much participation as representation. Given
the fact that most members of the Hispanic community are law abiding
and responsible citizens, that means that a large percentage of the
illegal alien portion of the Hispanic community is even worse. How
much worse nobody knows because NOBODY IS TRACKING IT.
A review of State Police auto accident reports for 2002 through 2004
for that area of the Eastern Shore also revealed that of the 179
accidents involving Hispanic laborers:
�75% of the drivers had no auto insurance.
�Nearly all of the vehicles driven by migrants were registered to
other drivers.
�93% of the vehicles had false out-of-state tags.
In 2003 and 2004, 128 of the 395 people, 32.4%, arrested on DUI
charges were Hispanic, a rate six times greater than the Hispanic
portion of the population.
The article goes on, "When crashes occur, it is not uncommon for
Hispanic drivers � often intoxicated and unlicensed � to flee before
troopers arrive. According to State Police records, about a third of
accidents involving migrant workers are hit-and-run. State Trooper
Koushel said migrants often cannot be conclusively identified when
they're stopped for a violation or involved in an accident." "Many",
he said, "are illegal aliens who carry fake or invalid driver's
licenses". "Because of that", he said, "many fail to show up in court.
It's almost like writing a ticket to a ghost."
For more information on the DUI problem, see Hispanics in crashes lead
DWI stats.
Illegal aliens that drive without licenses often can not read English.
As a result, they don't know the rules of the road and can't read
highway signs. As noted in Where Illegals Go for Driver's Licenses,
North Carolina allows illegal aliens who can't speak English to bring
in their own interpreter so the English speaking examiners don't have
a clue what the applicant knows or doesn't know. Couple that with the
higher tendency for DUI driving and many illegal aliens are the worst
drivers on the road, as noted by some of the various traffic accident
statistics cited in this paper. Add in the fact that they generally
have no insurance and that makes them, as a group, the most
irresponsible drivers on the road, as well.
As noted in No license to drive: Illegal immigrant drivers creating
problem in De Queen, Arkansas, population 5,765:
"Hispanic drivers in De Queen without driver's licenses have become an
accident waiting to happen, an official said. "The majority of
Hispanics have no driver's license and they're part of the illegal
immigration problem. If they're here illegally, they can't get into
the system to get driver's license. In most cases they don't have car
insurance either," said Mayor Billy Ray McKelvy.
... The drivers also have no vehicle insurance and no liability
insurance, says McKelvy.
... In the last two months, De Queen has been averaging about an
accident per week involving Hispanic drivers with no driver's
licenses. Ten vehicles have been involved and the average amount of
damage per vehicle was estimated to be $3,000. So far, none of the
crashes in De Queen have been fatal."
However the consequences of illegal aliens driving have not just been
a few cars damaged as in DeQueen. Putting some of the personal
consequences of the "victimless crime" into perspective:
Police chief of the Needville Independent School District, Chief
Ernest V. Mendoza lost his life when he was hit head on by drunken
illegal alien Guillermo Paniagua Paniagua who veered into his lane.
Paniagua had four previous drunken driving convictions. Paniagua fled
the scene on foot but was captured latter. Mendoza, a 25-year-veteran
of law enforcement, leaves behind a wife and four children.
Min Soon Chang, a freshman from the University of North Carolina at
Charlotte, was killed by drunk driving illegal alien Jorge Humberto
Hernandez-Soto, who hit him while going 100 MPH the wrong way on the
highway. Hernadez-Sot had been previously deported to his native
Mexico 17 times. That is not a typo.
Cheryl Ceran, 47, and two of her children, 15-year-old Ian and
7-year-old Julianna were killed on Christmas Eve by drunk driving
illegal alien Carlos Rodolfo Prieto, 24, who ran a red light and
slammed into their car. Also injured in the crash were Cheryl Ceran's
husband, Gary Ceran, 45, their daughter, Clarissa, 19, and a son,
Caleb, 12. Prieto had at least two other drunken driving arrests and
did not have a license.
Kelly Bergen, 25, a teacher, was crushed between two potato trucks, an
accident caused by an illegal alien driving without a license or
insurance.
Deputy Loren Lilly, an 18 year veteran of the Cobb County, GA, police
department was killed Christmas Eve morning on his way to work when an
illegal alien swerved into his lane. The driver, Joel Camacho Perea,
faces charges of hit and run, failure to maintain lane and driving
without a license.
Marine Corporal Brian Mathews, 21, and his girlfriend Jennifer Bower,
24, were killed by a drunk illegal alien Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano
who slammed into their car when it was stopped at a traffic light.
Corporal Mathews was on leave, after just returning from duty in Iraq.
Morales-Soriano had a blood-alcohol level that was four times the
legal limit.
20 year old Natalie Housand was killed when illegal alien Jesus Garcia
Lopez hit her car while going 100 MPH, driving drunk. Amazingly, after
the head-on collision, Lopez fled the scene.
Donna and Sean Wilson of Juliet Tennessee, were killed by illegal
alien Gustavo Reyes Garcia who had been, arrested 14 times in the
previous five years prior to when he ran into and killed them, again
driving while intoxicated. Garcia had previously been arrested 5 times
on DUIs.
Tricia Ann Taylor, 17, lost both her legs above the knees when she was
pinned against a wall by a drunken illegal alien with seventeen prior
violations who hit her while drag racing.
Ryan Ostendorf, a 28 year old paramedic, who was also a Kansas
University student and who dreamed of becoming a doctor, was killed by
illegal alien Victor Anzua-Torresa who had ignored an order to receive
treatment after his previous drunken-driving conviction. Anzua-Torresa
had also been previously deported in 2000 and been arrested for
several other offenses, including possession of drug paraphernalia.
5-year-old Felix Leon was killed in a hit and run accident by illegal
alien Carlos Jaramillo.
James F. Rogers Jr., 18, of North Jackson, TN was killed by Luis Oscar
Garcia, a Mexican who had been living in the U.S. without a green card
for three years. Garcia ran a red light. In addition to the vehicular
homicide and DUI charges, Garcia faces counts of driving without a
license, registration or proof of insurance. When police did a check
on his license plate, it did not come back under his name.
Joshua Morrow, 4, and his uncle, Ronald Bishop were killed by an
illegal alien who left the scene of the accident.
Christopher Shackleford, 19, Julieanne Pascoe, 18, and Kelli
Bourgeois, 18, were all killed in Marietta, Georgia, by an illegal
alien drunk driver. He did not have a valid driver's license or
insurance but did have a blood alcohol level at twice the legal limit.
Brandon Haley, 31, was killed while riding his bicycle in a hit and
run by illegal alien Lazardo Lobaton.
The Marti family, pictured here during a happy moment that no longer
exists. Sean, just 24 years old, and his daughter Sage, 5 months old,
were killed by a drunk illegal alien who was driving the wrong way on
Highway 84 in Idaho. Natalie Marti was in a coma for two weeks after
the head-on crash, spent two months in the hospital, and has suffered
brain damage from a traumatic head wound.
Chicago Police Officer Michael Gordon lost his life to a drunken
illegal alien driver. Officer Gordon was in the driver's seat of his
squad car when it was struck by Luis Calle, a Guatemalan, whose blood
alcohol level was 0.177, twice the legal limit.
Helen Hughes, 22, Jennifer Carter, 18, and Hughes' stepbrother,
16-year-old Ben Leonard were all killed by an illegal alien, who
allegedly was driving drunk, and already had a long record of crime in
the United States.
22-year-old Amy Kortlang was killed by an illegal alien driving
without a license and while drunk. The illegal alien driver had been
previously deported, barely six months prior to causing the accident.
Oakland Police Officer Will Seuis was killed on his ride home by an
illegal alien. A sixteen-year veteran of the Police Department,
Officer Seuis was remembered at his funeral as a hard-working cop who
had received 33 letters of appreciation from citizens, including one
from a motorist he had ticketed. The illegal alien had a long history
of traffic convictions.
Peggy Keller, dean of distance education at Yakima Valley Community
College, was killed by a twice deported illegal alien who was driving
under the influence of methamphetamines.
19 year old Travis Smith was killed when he was struck head-on by a
vehicle driven by an illegal alien who was transporting four other
illegal aliens to Pennsylvania.
Six year old Annie Cumpston was killed in a hit-and-run accident in
downtown Baltimore by a truck driven by illegal alien Guillermo Diaz
when it veered into the crosswalk as she and her family were leaving
the circus. When Diaz was arrested, he did not have a driver's
license, the tags on the truck were expired and his blood-alcohol
level was 0.07 percent. Diaz had been in the United States illegally
for four years doing construction work. He received 10 years in prison
but is eligible for parole in just two years. This is an example of a
horrific crime where all the easy to find references are gone but you
can find the story at archived at CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS