TV Show Predicted 9/11
skepticl1
From: skepti...@aol.com (Skeptic L1)
Date: 31 Dec 2003 08:34:46 GMT
Subject: TV Show Predicted 9/11
"March 4, 2001: Contradicting the later claim that no one could have
envisioned
the 9/11 attacks, a short-lived Fox TV program called The Lone Gunmen
airs a
pilot episode in which terrorists try to fly an airplane into the WTC.
The
heroes save the day and the airplane narrowly misses the building.
There are no
terrorists on board the aircraft; remote control technology is used to
steer
the plane. Ratings were good for the show, yet the eerie coincidence
is barely
mentioned after 9/11. Says one media columnist, "This seems to be
collective
amnesia of the highest order." [TV Guide, 6/21/02] The heroes also
determine,
"The terrorist group responsible was actually a faction of our own
government.
These malefactors were seeking to stimulate arms manufacturing in the
lean
years following the end of the Cold War by bringing down a plane in
New York
City and fomenting fears of terrorism." [Myers Report, 6/20/02]
This was reported on the 'cooperative research' website.
http://cooperativeresearch.org/index2.html
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BDK
@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
Apparently, you never read "Debt of Honor".
You poor clueless kook.
--
BDK
NJJC#1
Shill #1
Arkansan_Raider
> Apparently, you never read "Debt of Honor".
>
> You poor clueless kook.
>
That was one of my all-time fave novels. Out-freekeeng-standing book.
Thanks for the reminder. I may have to re-read it. It's been a few years
since the last time I read it.
---Jeff
skepticl1
What is the noevel about?
BDK
says...
Yep, I really liked it too. His books after it just weren't as good.
BDK
@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
You really never read it?
http://www.amazon.com/Debt-Honor-Jack-Ryan-
Novels/dp/0425147584/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210819784&sr=
8-1
Let's just say that flying planes into buildings wasn't a new idea. The
book came out in 1995, I think.
skepticl1
> In article <e50e4371-130e-43e6-aa2e-6f1077c4a5d6
>
> > On 14 May, 09:48, Arkansan_Raider <yom...@yomama.com> wrote:
> > > BDK wrote:
> > > > Apparently, you never read "Debt of Honor".
>
> > > > You poor clueless kook.
>
> > > That was one of my all-time fave novels. Out-freekeeng-standing book.
>
> > > Thanks for the reminder. I may have to re-read it. It's been a few years
> > > since the last time I read it.
>
> > > ---Jeff
>
> > What is the noevel about?
>
> You really never read it?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Debt-Honor-Jack-Ryan-
> Novels/dp/0425147584/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210819784&sr=
> 8-1
>
> Let's just say that flying planes into buildings wasn't a new idea. The
> book came out in 1995, I think.
>
> --
> BDK
> NJJC#1
> Shill #1
That's not suprising the FBI had blown up the WTC the first time in
1993. The FBI orchestrated every aspect of that attack. Gave the
chemicals to their assets to mix up. Hired the retarded guys to drive
the van.
BDK
2acf84...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, skep...@aol.com says...
BWHAHAHAHAA! Just when I think you couldn't be kookier, you surprise me.
John P.
> That's not suprising the FBI had blown up the WTC the first time in
> 1993. The FBI orchestrated every aspect of that attack. Gave the
> chemicals to their assets to mix up. Hired the retarded guys to drive
> the van.
Are you claiming to have direct knowledge of this because you were the van
driver?
Just go look it up!
First printing was 1994. Good memory tho. I wonder if the FedEx guy
got the idea from reading the book. Course, planting aircraft into
objects isn't exactly new either. Goes back until at least the 1940s.
I doubt she conveyed the idea that she was really intending to convey
with the quote that came out.
Just go look it up!
Yea, all the Ops Center stuff is just useless - the other guy wrote
it, just has his name on it for the marketing. I still think Red
Storm Rising was his best novel though.
Arkansan_Raider
I remember really diggin' Red Storm Rising, since it mentioned the TOWII
anti-tank missile teams. It came out when that's what I was doing for a
living as a really young Jarhead.
I also liked the sequel to Debt of Honor: Executive Orders.
Hell, all of 'em up to Executive Orders were really good. I've not
really read past that with his "real" novels.
I'm with you folks, though: Most of the series stuff is pretty lame.
Mildly entertaining, but lame.
---Jeff
MadTruckerJD
> I remember really diggin' Red Storm Rising, since it mentioned the TOWII
> anti-tank missile teams. It came out when that's what I was doing for a
> living as a really young Jarhead.
>
Awesome weapon. I remember watching a live demo of that down at
Pendleton when my "ARMY" ROTC unit camped there.
I was redeye/stinger qualified myself.
The Dragon and the Bear is one of my favorites too. Followed by Sum
of all Fears.
JD
Arkansan_Raider
>> I remember really diggin' Red Storm Rising, since it mentioned the TOWII
>> anti-tank missile teams. It came out when that's what I was doing for a
>> living as a really young Jarhead.
>>
>
> Awesome weapon. I remember watching a live demo of that down at
> Pendleton when my "ARMY" ROTC unit camped there.
And freekeeeeeeng expensive as hell. $10k for one round back in the
1980's. And it doesn't matter if it's a practice round or a live round.
Of course, it's much less expensive when you think about what it rides
around in and compare it to a Main Battle Tank. Lessee, here...
1) Hummer + launcher and standard accoutrements = $250k, give or take.
vs
2) Main Battle Tank, depending on country of origin = anywhere from 750k
to, what is it now, $40mil for an Abrams?
I'd say that's a good trade-off.
Not to mention manpower--two as opposed to four.
>
> I was redeye/stinger qualified myself.
Also an outstanding weapon. Just like the TOW II, it's getting a li'l
long of tooth, but still very effective. Of course, as Flight 800 shows,
the terrorists like it, too. (No, it wasn't a fuel tank spark!)
>
> The Dragon and the Bear is one of my favorites too. Followed by Sum
> of all Fears.
>
> JD
I've not read the Dragon and the Bear, nor Teeth of the Tiger. Sum of
All Fears was damned good.
---Jeff
skepticl1
> "skepticl1" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote in a message
You Dildos know about military armament, but you don't know the
important stuff. Bush and his crew blew up the WTC and Manhattan, the
London Underground, Madrid, Balai, Egypt. It's all part of the
'Strategy of Tension' campaign, which started in Italy with the White
House perpretrating the Red Brigade Bombings. George Bush Sr.
kidnapped the head of the Italian State. Now go back to talking about
unimportant things.
Kinlaw
"Arkansan_Raider" <yom...@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:NR_Wj.3383$7k7....@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
The Bear and the Dragon is rockin good; The Teeth of the Tiger was kind of
ho hum.
I have not thought much of the movies since Red October. Alec Baldwin may be
a little loopy but he is a damn good actor.
Kin
george
> "skepticl1" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote in a message
Can't be.
There is a restriction on the brain damaged when it comes to driving a
motor vehicle.
His messaging style comes from not wearing a helmet while playing
American Football
BDK
nob...@nowhere.spam says...
I know there was an earlier book, maybe back in 66 or so, where a guy
was pissed at some mayor or maybe governor, and he flew a single engine
plane full of gas or maybe some sort of explosives into the guy's house.
It was a screw up though, and the guy he was after had just left after
being tipped off by the pilot's girlfriend. He was the only one killed
in the whole book, he screwed up every attempt he made at several people
he had grudges, except for one that was done before, I think it was one
of his grade school teachers, she had humiliated him and she was #1 on
his "shit list".
That's the first book I'm aware of that had a plane fly into buildings.
My dad had a paperback of it when he had back surgery, and I used to
read a lot of his books after he was done with them.
BDK
nob...@nowhere.spam says...
I really liked Red Storm, and Sum of All Fears too. The Ops Center was
very close to worthless. I had a hard time getting through them. I used
to read a ton of books when I was on 3rd shift and literally had nothing
at all to do for 6-7 hours a night. I still read a lot, but not like I
did then, I was a regular at the used bookstores and the close out
shelves at the new bookstores.
I wish a studio would have had the guts to do the "Debt of Honor" movie.
I knew when 911 happened, that ended any chance of it happening.
george
> That's the first book I'm aware of that had a plane fly into buildings.
> My dad had a paperback of it when he had back surgery, and I used to
> read a lot of his books after he was done with them.
>
The Japanese 'invented' crashing aircraft into structures though they
did limit themselves to Allied shipping