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David Dalton

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Nov 26, 2012, 9:57:33 PM11/26/12
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From http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-rosary :

"The word rosary comes from Latin and means a garland of
roses, the rose being one of the flowers used to symbolize
the Virgin Mary."

I wonder if the origin of the rosary is related to my
blue rose vision pre-dawn on Sept. 6, 1991, which I describe
on http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/sunstare.html , which is
a subsubpage of my Salmon on the Thorns web page. Now
I relate the blue rose vision to the blue planet Earth
but if I was still Catholic I guess I would say it was
a sign from the Virgin Mary. Do you think my blue
rose vision was a sign from the Virgin Mary?

Also here is an edited excerpt from
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html :

The long Catholic rosary is 165 beads, and the shorter one
is 55 (or maybe 58) beads, so three short ones make a long
one. 165 beads is pretty much the same, in days, as 5.5 lunar
months (162 days), and is also 5 times the length of an Islamic
rosary (and 5 is the number of the rose) and 1.5 times the
length of a Hindu mala rosary of 108 beads. Also 5.5 lunar
months is the same as six rotations of the sun. This 162 day
period is the time period from the onset of a pre-full-moon
psychic test (such as that of Buddha tested by Mara, or Jesus
tested by Satan in the desert) with release at full moon,
to the onset of a pre-new-moon waning crescent mystic high.
My personal onset to onset measurements have ranged from
160 to 164 days. Also note that in http://www.inbreath.com/rose1.htm
it says "And the first rosary is said to have been made of
actual flowers." And a defunct page entitled Everything is
Coming up Roses said "A little known fact is that the Rosary
derived its name from the rose hips, which were strung as
prayer beads by the monks. Later rosary beads were made from
the fragrant paste of crushed rose petals."

Do you know anything more about the history of the rosary?
(There is some material on Wikipedia on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_rosary .)

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Renia

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Nov 26, 2012, 10:43:24 PM11/26/12
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MCGARRY

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Nov 27, 2012, 5:19:51 AM11/27/12
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Le 27/11/2012 04:43, Renia a écrit :
> On 27/11/2012 02:57, David Dalton wrote:
>> From http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-rosary :
>>
>> "The word rosary comes from Latin and means a garland of roses, the
>> rose being one of the flowers used to symbolize the Virgin Mary."
>>
>> I wonder if the origin of the rosary is related to my blue rose
>> vision pre-dawn on Sept. 6, 1991, which I describe



If you stare at the sun you need your head testing.
If you insist on staring at the sun I'm sure you can see anything you
want to.
Giving the benefit of doubt, lets admit that Jesus existed. Virgins have
never given birth so Mary was no virgin. She died like all human beings
and has never been seen since, so what ever you imagined you saw it was
nothing to do with her.




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Peter Jason

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Nov 27, 2012, 4:28:26 PM11/27/12
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:19:51 +0100, MCGARRY
<webma...@cpmac.com> wrote:

>Le 27/11/2012 04:43, Renia a écrit :
>> On 27/11/2012 02:57, David Dalton wrote:
>>> From http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-rosary :
>>>
>>> "The word rosary comes from Latin and means a garland of roses, the
>>> rose being one of the flowers used to symbolize the Virgin Mary."
>>>
>>> I wonder if the origin of the rosary is related to my blue rose
>>> vision pre-dawn on Sept. 6, 1991, which I describe
>
>
>
>If you stare at the sun you need your head testing.
>If you insist on staring at the sun I'm sure you can see anything you
>want to.
>Giving the benefit of doubt, lets admit that Jesus existed. Virgins have
>never given birth so Mary was no virgin. She died like all human beings
>and has never been seen since, so what ever you imagined you saw it was
>nothing to do with her.

Quite. The cunning religionists simply supplied
the need for a mother god by replacing Astarte,
Isis etc with a more modern one. The whole god
pantheon becomes a soap opera reflecting the ones
on earth.

Yusuf B Gursey

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Feb 15, 2013, 8:23:23 PM2/15/13
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On Nov 26 2012, 9:57 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> Fromhttp://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-rosary :
>
> "The word rosary comes from Latin and means a garland of
> roses, the rose being one of the flowers used to symbolize
> the Virgin Mary."
>
> I wonder if the origin of the rosary is related to my
> blue rose vision pre-dawn on Sept. 6, 1991, which I describe
> onhttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/sunstare.html, which is
> a subsubpage of my Salmon on the Thorns web page. Now
> I relate the blue rose vision to the blue planet Earth
> but if I was still Catholic I guess I would say it was
> a sign from the Virgin Mary. Do you think my blue
> rose vision was a sign from the Virgin Mary?
>
> Also here is an edited excerpt fromhttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html:
>
> The long Catholic rosary is 165 beads, and the shorter one
> is 55 (or maybe 58) beads, so three short ones make a long
> one. 165 beads is pretty much the same, in days, as 5.5 lunar
> months (162 days), and is also 5 times the length of an Islamic
> rosary (and 5 is the number of the rose) and 1.5 times the

a full Islamic rosary is actually with 99 beads corresponding with the "99
Most Beautiful Names of God" but the most popular variety people carry has
33 beads (99/3). in the museums I have seen gigantic rosaries of 1000 or
over that Sufis use for their chants. Wahhabis (those in power in Saudi
Arabia) consider the rosary an "inovation" in Islam and don't use it and
frown upon its usage.

rosaries are obiquitous among Middle Eastern men and do not necessarily
denote excessive religious devotion. Greeks and Arab Christians are also
included in this category, with the Greek Orthodox short rosaries. fancy
twirling or flipping of a rosary is considered "cool" and is the Middle
Eastern equivalent of flipping a silver coin.


> length of a Hindu mala rosary of 108 beads. Also 5.5 lunar
> months is the same as six rotations of the sun. This 162 day
> period is the time period from the onset of a pre-full-moon
> psychic test (such as that of Buddha tested by Mara, or Jesus
> tested by Satan in the desert) with release at full moon,
> to the onset of a pre-new-moon waning crescent mystic high.
> My personal onset to onset measurements have ranged from
> 160 to 164 days. Also note that inhttp://www.inbreath.com/rose1.htm
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