Another Challenge For Atheists & Skeptics
M---J---D
Since issuing my challenge against unbelievers, also
known as skeptics, atheists, agnostics, and the like;
barbarian, heathen, gentile, infidel, sinful, wicked,
irreverent, sacrilegious, ungodly, belialist, vermin,
degenerate, pig, scumbag, loser, idiot and blockhead;
since presenting my last challenge, I'm offering yet
another challenge for you poor skeptics to suffer by:
THE PLANETS OF THE WEEK
At least since the days of Moses, author of the book
of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy
(albeit the latter has endured some heavy redaction),
it has been common knowledge among Egypto-Babylonian
peoples from all walks of life, that the days of the
week are named for the planets as ordered by perfect
fifths from the Sun to Saturn, hence from the Dorian
mode to the Mixolydian mode, as this chart indicates:
DIATONIC SIDEREAL MODES OF PLANETS OF THE WEEK
(same mode, common ascending, ancient descending)
Tonic Common Ancient Planet Heaven
D Dorian Phrygian Sun Fourth
A Aeolian Hypodorian Moon First
E Phrygian Dorian Mars Fifth
B Locrian Mixolydian Mercury Second
F Lydian Hypolydian Jupiter Sixth
C Ionian Lydian Venus Third
G Mixolydian Hypophrygian Saturn Seventh
You can see from the following chart, each planet's
sidereal placement determines the order of diatonic
modalities, each having seven tones in unique order,
thus determining the root pitch key for each planet:
DIATONIC SIDEREAL MODES IN THE OCTAVE
(Orbit, Planet, Pitch, Mode, Muse, Goddess)
S# Pla Key Mod Mus God Relative Middle C
10 Plu C Ion Mne Mem <=C equal middle C
9 Nep B Loc Tha Com <=B below middle C
8 Ura A Aeo Ura Ast <=A below middle C <=bottom
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7 Sat G Mix Pol Hym <=G above middle C
6 Jup F Lyd Eut Mel <=F above middle C
5 Mar E Phr Era Lyr <=E above middle C
4 Sun D Dor Mel Tra <=D above middle C
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3 Ven C Ion Ter Dan <=C above middle C <=top
2 Mer B Loc Kal Epi <=B above middle C
1 Moo A Aeo Kli His <=A above middle C
In conclusion, there has never been a time where days
of the week were not directly associated with planets
for which each day was named--explicitly according to
the circle of fifths defined by their sidereal orbits.
This fact absolutely destroys any argument that there
was some kind of gap in common understanding that the
sidereal orbits of planets named the days of the week.
Therefore I'll quote from Young's literal translation
of Genesis 1:1-31, 2:1-4, showing that even Moses did
know how the evenings-mornings of creation were named.
Meaning Egypto-Babylonians knew it, meaning the whole
world knew it; Egypt at the center of radial activity:
Sun's Day
"In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and
the earth--the earth hath existed waste and void, and
darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of
God fluttering on the face of the waters, and God saith,
'Let light be'; and light is. And God seeth the light
that it is good, and God separateth between the light
and the darkness, and God calleth to the light 'Day',
and to the darkness He hath called 'Night'; and there
is evening, and there is morning--day one." Gen 1:1-5
Moon's Day
And God saith, 'Let an expanse be in the midst of the
waters, and let it be separating between waters and
waters.' And God maketh the expanse, and it separateth
between the waters which are under the expanse, and the
waters which are above the expanse: and it is so. And
God calleth to the expanse 'Heavens'; and there is
evening, and there is morning--day second." 6-8 ibid
Mars' Day
"And God saith, 'Let the waters under the heavens be
collected unto one place, and let the dry land be seen':
and it is so. And God calleth to the dry land 'Earth',
and to the collection of the waters He hath called
'Seas'; and God seeth that it is good. And God saith,
'Let the earth yield tender grass, herb sowing seed,
fruit-tree (whose seed is in itself) making fruit after
its kind, on the earth': and it is so. And the earth
bringeth forth tender grass, herb sowing seed after its
kind, and tree making fruit (whose seed is in itself)
after its kind; and God seeth that it is good; and there
is evening, and there is morning--day third." 9-13
Mercury's Day
"And God saith, 'Let luminaries be in the expanse of
the heavens, to make a separation between the day and
the night, then they have been for signs, and for seasons,
and for days and years, and they have been for luminaries
in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth':
and it is so. And God maketh the two great luminaries,
the great luminary for the rule of the day, and the small
luminary--and the stars also--for the rule of the night;
and God giveth them in the expanse of the heavens to give
light upon the earth, and to rule over day and over night,
and to make a separation between the light and the darkness;
and God seeth that it is good; and there is evening, and
there is morning--day fourth." 14-19
Jupiter's Day
And God saith, 'Let the waters teem with the teeming living
creature, and fowl let fly on the earth on the face of the
expanse of the heavens.' And God prepareth the great monsters,
and every living creature that is creeping, which the waters
have teemed with, after their kind, and every fowl with wing,
after its kind, and God seeth that it is good. And God blesseth
them, saying, 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters
in the seas, and the fowl let multiply in the earth': and
there is evening, and there is morning--day fifth." 20-23
Venus' Day
And God saith, 'Let the earth bring forth the living creature
after its kind, cattle and creeping thing, and beast of the
earth after its kind': and it is so. And God maketh the beast
of the earth after its kind, and the cattle after their kind,
and every creeping thing of the ground after its kind, and
God seeth that it is good. And God saith, 'Let Us make man in
Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over
fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is
creeping on the earth.' And God prepareth the man in His image;
in the image of God He prepared him, male and female He prepared
them. And God blesseth them, and God saith to them, 'Be fruitful,
and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over
fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over every
living thing that is creeping upon the earth.' And God saith,
'Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which is upon
the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit
of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food; and to every beast
of the earth, and to every fowl of the heavens, and to every
creeping thing on the earth, in which is breath of life, every
green herb is for food': and it is so. And God seeth all that
He hath done, and lo, very good; and there is evening, and
there is morning--day the sixth." 24-31
Saturn's Day
And the heavens and the earth are completed, and all their
host; and God completeth by the seventh day His work which
He hath made, and ceaseth by the seventh day from all His
work which He hath made. And God blesseth the seventh day,
and sanctifieth it, for in it He hath ceased from all His
work which God had prepared for making. These are births
of the heavens and of the earth in their being prepared,
in the day of Jehovah God's making earth and heavens; 2:1-4
I Rest My Case.
Daniel Joseph Min
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Phate
man shut teh fnak up! just because you are a fanatic christian doesnt mean
you gotsta get in a pissing contest with atheists cause that makes you among
the most annoying people alive.
i regret to announce that that was your last post that my eyes will see,
good-bye!
*SPNAK*
M---J---D
>M---J---D <sp`m`n`t@sp`m`n`t.ten> wrote in message
>news:<8K5NN9CG3759...@Gilgamesh-frog.org>...
>superstitious people made unfounded assumptions about
>the relationship between days, visible planets and the
>musical modes.
>
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Thanks. You've saved me the trouble of reiterating the
facts of the matter, which I have accurately presented
in my challenge to skeptics, atheists, and the likes of
yourself. You've abjectly failed to respond to evidence
presented hereinbefore. To proceed would be unwarranted.
Whosoever responds to me needs to be at least a Ph.D. in
these subject matters. I see you're not. I'm outta here!
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's "Sidereal Planets of the Week" Challenge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8K5NN9CG3759...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's "Sidereal Planetary Orbits" Challenge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Q1FG5P2Z3759...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Reference Manual:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2IK03PLL375...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Official Home Page:
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Cardinal Chunder
> To proceed would be unwarranted.
> Whosoever responds to me needs to be at least a Ph.D. in
> these subject matters. I see you're not. I'm outta here!
>
> Daniel Joseph Min
You sound like George Hammond.
M___J___D
>I was ALMOST convinced by the iron-clad logic and
>perfectly clear evidence and reasoning. But then
>I realized that from B to F is NOT A PERFECT FIFTH.
>It's a "tritone"
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In reality the Locrian modality is the only mode among
the seven primary modalities whose fifth is diminished.
It is verily a fifth by definition, a diminished fifth,
albeit I agree it is not a perfect fifth per chromatic
notation but is the diatonic Locrian fifth by modality,
as is easily demonstrated on the white keys of a piano:
DIATONIC SIDEREAL MODES IN WHOLE & HALF STEPS
# alpha AscendSteps Mode *Species
7 G W-W-H-W-W-H Mixolydian greater w/ b7
6 F W-W-W-H-W-W Lydian greater w/ #4
5 E H-W-W-W-H-W Phrygian lesser w/ b2
4 D W-H-W-W-W-H Dorian lesser melodic
3 C W-W-H-W-W-W Ionian greater natural
2 B H-W-W-H-W-W Locrian lesser w/ b2 b5
^^
1 A W-H-W-W-H-W Aeolian lesser natural
*greater, major, perfect;
lesser, minor, imperfect.
I did say "perfect fifth" in my challenge, and you are
commended for discovering this relatively insignificant
oversight on my part. I've corrected just that passage
in its context, and below is this passage again as it
should've been written in the first place. Therefore,
I thank you for your constructive criticism, although
the balance of your reply was apparently made in haste,
given that the integrity of my challenge remains intact.
>
>With this flaw noted the whole
>argument collapses like a house of cards
>
Nice try, and I appreciate your humble attempts at
"collapsing" that which is merely incontrovertible.
Let's try this again. See if you find an error now:
"...days of the week are named for the planets as
ordered by perfect fifths from the Sun to Saturn,
with the lone exception of the interval climbing
from Mercury to Jupiter, which is, by definition,
necessarily a diminished 5th in the Locrian mode."
Best of Luck!
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's "Sidereal Planets of the Week" Challenge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8K5NN9CG3759...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's "Sidereal Planetary Orbits" Challenge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Q1FG5P2Z3759...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Reference Manual:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2IK03PLL375...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Official Home Page:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=UWP3KH4W3756...@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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Ross
news:1Z5CQM9737593.2016435185@Gilgamesh-frog.org:
> "Arfur Dogfrey" wrote:
>>I was ALMOST convinced by the iron-clad logic and
>>perfectly clear evidence and reasoning. But then
>>I realized that from B to F is NOT A PERFECT FIFTH.
>>It's a "tritone"
[...]
> I did say "perfect fifth" in my challenge, and you are
> commended for discovering this relatively insignificant
> oversight on my part.
Insignificant? Not noticing the difference between a P5 and a tritone
shows the lack of research. Calling the oversight "relatively
insignificant" shows your lack of integrity.
> I've corrected just that passage
> in its context, and below is this passage again as it
> should've been written in the first place. Therefore,
> I thank you for your constructive criticism, although
> the balance of your reply was apparently made in haste,
> given that the integrity of my challenge remains intact.
>>
>>With this flaw noted the whole
>>argument collapses like a house of cards
>>
> Nice try, and I appreciate your humble attempts at
> "collapsing" that which is merely incontrovertible.
> Let's try this again. See if you find an error now:
The error is trying to blend this all together. The diatonic scale and the
resulting modes are human artifacts; it is the way the Greeks decided to
organize their music and Western European cultures kept them.
> "...days of the week are named for the planets as
> ordered by perfect fifths from the Sun to Saturn,
> with the lone exception of the interval climbing
> from Mercury to Jupiter, which is, by definition,
> necessarily a diminished 5th in the Locrian mode."
What a truck load of babble! You and Wollmann are sounding more and more
alike each day.
[snip references to Min's pages of idiocy]
R.
DVD
M___J___D <spm`nt@spm`nt.te-n> wrote:
>
>
> In reality
The Collected Buffoonery of Daniel J. Min - Usenet's most failed prophet.
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Who is Danny Min?
What does he post?
Examples of failed prophecies
What you should do
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Who is Daniel J. Min?
Daniel J. Min is a denizen of Usenet newsgroups. He posts using various variations on his name, including using asterisks or underlines in place of letters. Often he will post as "Nomen Nescio" or Anonymous, and he used to post as GOD>.
The reason for this is to get around peoples "kill files" or "bozo filters"
However, he consistently posts through anonymous "remailers" in order to disguise his true identity
He posts to various newsgroups, including alt.astrology, alt.astronomy, and alt.prophecies.nostradamus. He posts in any inappropriate newsgroup he deems neccessary.
Additionally Danny has been known to directly email people, once again, using his anonymous remailer service.
What does he post?
Danny posts various garbage claims about astrological influences, and birthdata, which he generally makes up as he goes along. Outstanding amongst his posts include claims to know exactly the birthdata of Jesus Christ, Johannes Kepler, Ptolemy, and various other historical characters.
He posts silly prophecies and claims, and even at times posts his own "kill file list" which has become so large that it's unlikely he even *sees* anyone else s posts anymore.
Some Classic examples of Danny's failed prophecies
(Danny's "prophetic" words are italicized)
Danny predicts the "Great Khan of Terror":
On 15 Nov 1999 22:34:03 -0600, GOD wrote in these newsgroups:
The king of terror will come some time around the month of May in 2000.
At this time, the inner planets will all be lined up on one side of the sun with the exception of the Earth which will be directly at the opposite side.
The increased gravitational effects of the sun combined with the added pull from the other planets will have a devastating effect on the earth.
At this time, all major fault lines will rupture. California will experience the big one at this time.
Volcanic activity will increase and it is very likely that the Long Valley Caulderra will explode cataclysmicly. These types of events will be occurring at roughly the same time throughout the entire planet.
To top it off, the suns corona will be nudged away from the earth...towards the grouped inner planets, effectively creating a massive coronal hole (I.E." the "three days of darkness").
When the pull of the alignment comes to pass, the corona will snap back to the earth facing side thereby releasing a CME of massive proportions....aimed directly at planet Earth.
Believe me, there will be terror at this time.
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Danny moves "The Great Kahn of Terror" by yet another 7 months:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:59:25 -0500, No User wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, bo...@vornet.com (BobO fficer) wrote:
>>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:37:04 -0500, to alt.astrology et al I wrote
>>>Enjoy 1999 seventh month. It is Ethanim 2000.
>>you said it was last September or October,
Yes, the seventh month 1999 in the revised Roman calendar was from sunset September 10th to sunset October 10th but the first month 1999 was in the spring of 1762 BC, sunset Saturday March 24th to sunset April 22nd proleptic Julian. The seventh month Ethanim was therefore 2000, not of 1999 but FROM the first month in the YEAR 1999 of the passover. Hence, the YEAR 1999 seventh month AND seven months. See?
>>I let you take every day of the year 1999
>The LORD granted the centuries and you did not repent. He giveth and He taketh away. You Robert, speak blasphemy of the LORD.
>>and you were wrong.
>I am corrected by scripture--and Nostradamus was likewise.
>>there was no terror from the skies, no killer asteroid.
>And yet again must that universal ruler of infernal hades be raised up as it is written. Beware the star in fortune opposing, in the rule of night from heaven it advances to WINNOW, "Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire" [Mat 3:12]
>>Daniel
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Daniel Expects half the world's population destroyed in October 2000
On Sun, 2 Jul 2000 23:00:02 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, "Douglas Deaton" wrote:
>>I am new here and somewhat ignorant.
>>Doug
That makes two of us, or 6 billion of us if I'm not entirely mistaken.
At October much will be made clear
by ways and means of the elements.
I expect half the population gone,
global equalisation of temperature
and pressure, the time, a new race,
His perpetual age the moment where,
or at the place when, smoke clears.
Enjoy the fireworks!
Daniel Joseph Min- >
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Daniel predicts the US presidential election for 2000
On 12 Nov 2000 23:44:00 -0000, Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
The 42nd President of the United States is the very
last of all the American Presidents to hold office.
He will announce our *National Emergency* shortly,
thus will continue in the office of the President,
having already been inaugurated in due diligence
when he was elected President. Gore is still VP.
&There is no reason to repeal the 22nd amendment,
given that Mr. President William Jefferson Clinton
has been elected twice only, and no more, thus the
amendment does not apply. Neither does a term limit
apply in his case, given that this is indeed a true
state of emergency with bloody violence seen to be
escalating in the State of Florida and elsewhere,
spreading like wildfire as it is in the mid east.
Get to higher ground if you can (look at England!)
Daniel Joseph Min
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So what should you do about him?
Well, first of all, you can be pretty sure based on his success rate that anything he has to say is wrong.
Someone once said, rather well, that "there is too much Min, and not enough Nostradamus" in what he posts.
Complaining won't do much, because he's they type of individual that doesn't feel the need to explain himself.
Asking him to stop only feeds him.
complaining to his anonymous remailer service results in nothing.
About the best thing to be said, is just be aware of what a buffoon he is.