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David Dalton
Nov 20, 2012, 11:35:05 PM11/20/12
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Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
If so I would like to collaborate with you.
On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
the subsubpage http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
Here is the relevant section from there:
-------------------
Jesus and Quetzalcoatl
This series I think refers to an original human figure Quetzalcoatl.
Once I thumbed at random D.H. Lawrence's The Complete Poems and came out
at a page with some poems relating Jesus and Quetzalcoatl, from the
section Poems From the Plumed Serpent. On that page was the short poem
My name is Jesus, I am Mary's son,
I am coming home,
My mother the Moon is dark
Brother, Quetzalcoatl,
Hold back the wild hot sun.
Bind him with shadow while I pass.
Let me come home.
From that I interpret the dark moon as being new moon, so related to my
waning crescent to new moon highs, and the hold back the wild hot sun to
my sun stare of Sept. 5, 1991, 2.5 days before the exact time of new
moon.
Some other relevant quotes from those poems are:
In the cave which is called Dark Eye
Behind the sun, looking through him as a window
Is the place. There the waters rise,
There the winds are born
Those last four lines are more about Quetzalcoatl than Jesus though, but
they again indicate to me my sun stare and in it the tunneling beyond
the sun.
Some more lines, from a poem called Quetzalcoatl looks down on Mexico,
are:
Jesus had gone far up the dark slope, when he looked back.
Quetzalcoatl, my brother! he called. Send me my images,
And the images of my mother, and the images of my saints.
Send me them by the swift way, the way of the sparks,
That I may hold them like memories in my arms when I go to sleep
In that I interpret the sparks to be like my own mystic spark
experiences.
---------------
So in the above my source is poems of D.H. Lawrence but I am
interested in corresponding with followers of Quetzalcoatl who
have access to more direct sources and may be interested in
proving that Quetzalcoatl was/is similar to and as good as
Jesus, using my evidence, but I agree that I am not yet, and
may never be, of their stature. (I have claimed to be a
global shaman but that claim will hold no water until I come
out of the low years, which have lasted 16.8 years so far now
rather than the usual 7 years, into a period of steady creativity.)
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
If so I would like to collaborate with you.
On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
the subsubpage http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
Here is the relevant section from there:
-------------------
Jesus and Quetzalcoatl
This series I think refers to an original human figure Quetzalcoatl.
Once I thumbed at random D.H. Lawrence's The Complete Poems and came out
at a page with some poems relating Jesus and Quetzalcoatl, from the
section Poems From the Plumed Serpent. On that page was the short poem
My name is Jesus, I am Mary's son,
I am coming home,
My mother the Moon is dark
Brother, Quetzalcoatl,
Hold back the wild hot sun.
Bind him with shadow while I pass.
Let me come home.
From that I interpret the dark moon as being new moon, so related to my
waning crescent to new moon highs, and the hold back the wild hot sun to
my sun stare of Sept. 5, 1991, 2.5 days before the exact time of new
moon.
Some other relevant quotes from those poems are:
In the cave which is called Dark Eye
Behind the sun, looking through him as a window
Is the place. There the waters rise,
There the winds are born
Those last four lines are more about Quetzalcoatl than Jesus though, but
they again indicate to me my sun stare and in it the tunneling beyond
the sun.
Some more lines, from a poem called Quetzalcoatl looks down on Mexico,
are:
Jesus had gone far up the dark slope, when he looked back.
Quetzalcoatl, my brother! he called. Send me my images,
And the images of my mother, and the images of my saints.
Send me them by the swift way, the way of the sparks,
That I may hold them like memories in my arms when I go to sleep
In that I interpret the sparks to be like my own mystic spark
experiences.
---------------
So in the above my source is poems of D.H. Lawrence but I am
interested in corresponding with followers of Quetzalcoatl who
have access to more direct sources and may be interested in
proving that Quetzalcoatl was/is similar to and as good as
Jesus, using my evidence, but I agree that I am not yet, and
may never be, of their stature. (I have claimed to be a
global shaman but that claim will hold no water until I come
out of the low years, which have lasted 16.8 years so far now
rather than the usual 7 years, into a period of steady creativity.)
--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
Martin Edwards
Nov 21, 2012, 2:45:21 AM11/21/12
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On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
> Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
> others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
>
> If so I would like to collaborate with you.
>
> On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
> Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
> the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
How very cranky.
> Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
> others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
>
> If so I would like to collaborate with you.
>
> On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
> Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
> the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman
David Dalton
Nov 21, 2012, 1:32:39 PM11/21/12
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In article <bE%qs.307876$YJ1.1...@fx09.am4>,
the crack of the cauldron, which is new moon.
Martin Edwards <big_m...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
> > Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
> > others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
> >
> > If so I would like to collaborate with you.
> >
> > On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
> > Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
> > the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
>
> How very cranky.
Yes, well the term crackpot can be related to
> On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
> > Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
> > others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
> >
> > If so I would like to collaborate with you.
> >
> > On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
> > Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
> > the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
>
> How very cranky.
the crack of the cauldron, which is new moon.
Martin Edwards
Nov 22, 2012, 2:30:57 AM11/22/12
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On 21/11/2012 18:32, David Dalton wrote:
> In article <bE%qs.307876$YJ1.1...@fx09.am4>,
> Martin Edwards <big_m...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
>>> Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
>>> others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
>>>
>>> If so I would like to collaborate with you.
>>>
>>> On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
>>> Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
>>> the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
>>
>> How very cranky.
>
> Yes, well the term crackpot can be related to
> the crack of the cauldron, which is new moon.
>
Get back under your bridge.
> In article <bE%qs.307876$YJ1.1...@fx09.am4>,
> Martin Edwards <big_m...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
>>> Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
>>> others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
>>>
>>> If so I would like to collaborate with you.
>>>
>>> On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
>>> Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
>>> the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
>>
>> How very cranky.
>
> Yes, well the term crackpot can be related to
> the crack of the cauldron, which is new moon.
>
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David Dalton
Nov 27, 2012, 9:09:44 PM11/27/12
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In article <jrn8b8pofrcvcqgtt...@4ax.com>,
Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:30:57 +0000, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican,
> upwards. The problem is his kidneys are nearly the point of failure.
> this is a problem with those people which were place on high dosages
> of lithium for long term.
My lithium level is 0.7--0.8 which is therapeutic range,
plus I take a topup of olanzapine. Also I am more
eccentric online than in my dealings with other
people offline. I don't need my medications increased.
However as Bob noted, lithium over 21 years has
affected my kidneys so I probably will be switching
to another mood stabilizer in the next few months.
Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:30:57 +0000, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican,
> Martin Edwards <big_m...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On 21/11/2012 18:32, David Dalton wrote:
> >> In article <bE%qs.307876$YJ1.1...@fx09.am4>,
> >> Martin Edwards <big_m...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
> >>>> others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
> >>>>
> >>>> If so I would like to collaborate with you.
> >>>>
> >>>> On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
> >>>> Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
> >>>> the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
> >>>
> >>> How very cranky.
> >>
> >> Yes, well the term crackpot can be related to
> >> the crack of the cauldron, which is new moon.
> >>
> >Get back under your bridge.
>
> David Dalton is one of those people whose medication needs adjusting
>
> >On 21/11/2012 18:32, David Dalton wrote:
> >> In article <bE%qs.307876$YJ1.1...@fx09.am4>,
> >> Martin Edwards <big_m...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 21/11/2012 04:35, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Are there any followers of Quetzalcoatl on here, or any
> >>>> others knowledgeable about Quetzalcoatl?
> >>>>
> >>>> If so I would like to collaborate with you.
> >>>>
> >>>> On my Salmon on the Thorns web page I compare
> >>>> Quetzalcoatl to Jesus (and to me), in particular on
> >>>> the subsubpagehttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.html .
> >>>
> >>> How very cranky.
> >>
> >> Yes, well the term crackpot can be related to
> >> the crack of the cauldron, which is new moon.
> >>
> >Get back under your bridge.
>
> upwards. The problem is his kidneys are nearly the point of failure.
> this is a problem with those people which were place on high dosages
> of lithium for long term.
My lithium level is 0.7--0.8 which is therapeutic range,
plus I take a topup of olanzapine. Also I am more
eccentric online than in my dealings with other
people offline. I don't need my medications increased.
However as Bob noted, lithium over 21 years has
affected my kidneys so I probably will be switching
to another mood stabilizer in the next few months.
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