Yngwie in guitar riff rip off!
Strider
Just heard Braveheart for the first time. Since when did Yngwie start
ripping off guitar riffs?
Have a listen to Gary Moore's Over the hills and far away. You will see
what I mean.
Strider
Wilson Chiu
I wouldn't call mimicking generic Celtic sounding phrases as "ripping off guitar
riff".
Wilson
__________________________________________________________________________
Dr Wilson Chiu, Speech & Language Group, Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd
email: wil...@cre.canon.co.uk tel: +44 1483 448844 fax: +44 1483 448845
Strider
Hi Wilson Chiu
Gary's riff is without question Celtic in influence but it is by no means a
generic Celtic sound.
If it was generic Yngwie's version wouldn't stand out as being so blatantly
similar.
:o)
Strider
Wilson Chiu wrote in message <358E802D...@cre.canon.co.uk>...
Lamar P. Huff
it's easy to ripp off a riff from a guitarist who is even more obscure
than you are....
Lamar P. Huff
Phil
>Strider wrote:
>>
>> Just heard Braveheart for the first time. Since when did Yngwie start
>> ripping off guitar riffs?
>>
>> Have a listen to Gary Moore's Over the hills and far away. You will see
>> what I mean.
>
>I wouldn't call mimicking generic Celtic sounding phrases as "ripping off guitar
>riff".
It's like people saying, "You ripped off Led Zeppelin!", who as we all
know were the biggest magpies in the book when it came to blues or
their eastern 'influences'.
Phillip Hackney
DOUBLE ECLIPSE website:
http://www.thirt772.demon.co.uk/Thirt772/Index.html
Strider
Is that really your argument? More people recognise the name Gary Moore
than Yngwie Malmsteen.
I just shouted around the office to ask if anyone had heard of Yngwie
Malmsteen. No one had but plenty knew who Gary Moore was.
Now this is not a Gary Moore versus Yngwie argument, just an answer to your
assertion that Gary Moore is more obscure than Yngwie.
At least you admit its' ripped off.
;o)
Strider
Lamar P. Huff wrote in message <358eb40e....@news.mindspring.com>...
Strider
Hi Phil
>It's like people saying, "You ripped off Led Zeppelin!", who as we all
>know were the biggest magpies in the book when it came to blues or
>their eastern 'influences'.
Point taken but it's not the sound or style that is similar, the riff is
pretty much identical.
Strider
Savey
Good call Strider,
Its not just similar, it is note for note until the resolution, which isn't
half as good IMHO...........
Using the same pedal note rising minor scale, with the same rhythmic
emphasis, I think Mr Moore should ask for some cash of Mr. Malmsteen.
Savey
Strider wrote in message <6mllck$lm7$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>...
>Just heard Braveheart for the first time. Since when did Yngwie start
>ripping off guitar riffs?
>
>Have a listen to Gary Moore's Over the hills and far away. You will see
>what I mean.
>
>Strider
>
>
Strider
>Its not just similar, it is note for note until the resolution, which
isn't
>half as good IMHO...........
>Using the same pedal note rising minor scale, with the same rhythmic
>emphasis, I think Mr Moore should ask for some cash of Mr. Malmsteen.
Don't know about all that, it just sounds the same to me.
:o)
Strider
YESSIR
Unfortunately, it is very easy to "rewrite" another piece of work without
meaning to.
It happens all the time. Even with the complex and fast style of YJM, there
is so much music out there
it is impossible to write stuff consistantly that does not sound very
familiar to something else. There is only a
finite amount of progressing notes that sound good together. The list is
very long, but it happens, frequently.
It happens even more with rhythm than solos. You can only get SO original,
without sounding dischordant.
How many songs use Em, C, and D (acoustically) You could play for the rest
of your life one after another and probably couldn't play all of the songs
based around that progression format. Yada, yada, yada.
>;-] Bryant
Phil
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:31:22 -0400, "YESSIR" <YES...@NOWHERE.COM>
wrote:
> Unfortunately, it is very easy to "rewrite" another piece of work without
>meaning to.
>It happens all the time. Even with the complex and fast style of YJM, there
>is so much music out there
>it is impossible to write stuff consistantly that does not sound very
>familiar to something else.
Yeah, I had a friend (also into YJM) who thought 'All I Want Is
Everything' from the F&I album was a blatant ripp-off of Paula Abdul's
'Two Steps Forward'. I doubt YJM had heard the latter tune but there
are always going to be similarities.
There are only so many notes....
Phil
Yeah, I agree but we must remember that this has been happening for
years. Deep Purple are a classic example. Their classic hit 'Black
Night' stole the riff from Ricky Nelson's 'Summertime' note for note.
They also stole the chords for 'Child In Time' off another group
(can't remember the name off hand) who, in revenge, nicked a Deep
Purple tune for their next album!! Not only this but you may like to
check out a few Gershwin tunes before you listen to Deep Purple again.
;-)
Lamar P. Huff
>Yeah, I had a friend (also into YJM) who thought 'All I Want Is
>Everything' from the F&I album was a blatant ripp-off of Paula Abdul's
>'Two Steps Forward'.
hehehe Now that my friend may be the funniest post I have ever read
hear... A Paula Abdul rip-off... hehehe
Lamar P. Huff
Savey
I heard that Yngwie Malmsteen surfs the web and checks out newsgroups and
stuff in disguise. (or is that Metallica?)
If thats true then come on Yng gives us a clue!! Can I call you Yng? (can I
pronounce Yng??)
Have you made some sort of arrangement with Gary Moore over the copying of
his riff?? Go on you can tell us, we are all doctors.
Savey
".......like the sky, I'm in perpetual, I'll never die..........."
--
Kaz Kylheku wrote in message <6msmll$f...@espresso.cafe.net>...
>In article <35915a11....@news.mindspring.com>,
>I once, years ago, heard some hip hop tune on the radio that had the same
>melody as Rising Force:
>
> out of the darkness the voices are calling
>
>I think it was even in the same key; I put on the song right away and
>started flipping the stereo between the radio and the album. :) It
>was hilarious.
trendy
On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:58:04 +0100, "Savey" <Ga...@earthling.net>
wrote:
>I heard that Yngwie Malmsteen surfs the web and checks out newsgroups and
>stuff in disguise. (or is that Metallica?)
If Yngwie does indeed do this sort of thing then I never meant what I
said about 'Teaser' being a chocolate bar commercial.... erm, Lamar
made me do it ;-)))
Tod
>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:31:22 -0400, "YESSIR" <YES...@NOWHERE.COM>
>wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, it is very easy to "rewrite" another piece of work
without
>>meaning to.
>>It happens all the time. Even with the complex and fast style of YJM,
there
>>is so much music out there
>>it is impossible to write stuff consistantly that does not sound very
>>familiar to something else.
>
>Everything' from the F&I album was a blatant ripp-off of Paula Abdul's
>are always going to be similarities.
>
>There are only so many notes....
>
...yeah, but an infinite number of variations
DirkG...@mailexcite.com
A finite number of notes can produce only a finite number of variations.
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
Tod
off the chalkboard. To the exten that someone has a mind and imagination, I
still believe that there he/she will never be limited.
Rodrigo Andrade
Paula Abdul is lame, lame, lame crappy 80's mainstream bullshit!! Yngwie is
a kick ass guitar virtuoso. 2 completely different styles of music!!! Only
this dude's friend listens to both guys, but that's all! I bet no one
else!!! So, my point is, PA fans will never know that YM ripped her off, and
YM fans will never know he ripped PA off.
See, Megadeth ripped off Metallica and Iron Maiden really bad on their last
CD. The problem is that almost 100% of Megadeth fans listen to Metallica
(including me!), and many others (again, including me!) listen to Iron
Maiden too. THIS rip off was much more obvious!
Fuck Paula Abdul, she sucks!!
RODRIGO
seilr...@my-dejanews.com
"Rodrigo Andrade" <candrade@_R_E_M_O_V_E_wt.net> wrote:
> Ok, even if he ripped her off, so what??? Fuck, this happens all the time!
> Paula Abdul is lame, lame, lame crappy 80's mainstream bullshit!! Yngwie is
> a kick ass guitar virtuoso. 2 completely different styles of music!!! Only
> this dude's friend listens to both guys, but that's all! I bet no one
> else!!! So, my point is, PA fans will never know that YM ripped her off, and
> YM fans will never know he ripped PA off.
>
setting around copping Paula's "music"!!
> See, Megadeth ripped off Metallica and Iron Maiden really bad on their last
> CD. The problem is that almost 100% of Megadeth fans listen to Metallica
> (including me!), and many others (again, including me!) listen to Iron
> Maiden too. THIS rip off was much more obvious!
Try and name 3 metal bands that don't cop some sort of Maiden influence (go
ahead), I kind of dug it. (A tribute is not a rip-off, i.e Yngwie copping
parts of Paganini's 2nd Caprice for the Dreaming keyboard part). As for
Megadeth ripping off Metalicca...you'd have to prove that one to me. Dave
Mustaine was a huge writing force in early Metalicca, his songs appear up
until Masters on Metalicca cds. (Listen to the first metalicca, then compare
it too So Far, So Good, So What and Master of Puppets...who's writing style
had the most influence on early Metalicca? And Master is considerd by many
to be hugely influenced by Cliff's writing. So after Dave's influence,
Cliff's influence, the Diamond Head influence and Maiden influence are
finally gone we are left with "new" Metalicca aren't we lucky?
>
> Fuck Paula Abdul, she sucks!!
Only if you are lucky!
phil
<candrade@_R_E_M_O_V_E_wt.net> wrote:
>Fuck Paula Abdul, she sucks!!
I don't think anyone here would argue with this.... :-)
Phil.
mx3ii4x3rgvfz0z...@lpwa.com
"Tod" <thg...@ecom.net> wrote:
> Yeah, but the number of variations are so many that the numbers would run
> off the chalkboard. To the exten that someone has a mind and imagination, I
> still believe that there he/she will never be limited.
>
But look at the evidence. How many songs out there are based on a minor
I, VI, VII. (almost every Iron Maiden song).
I just find it difficult to believe that Yngwie would rip-off a Gary Moore
riff. Moore isn't even close to his league.
> >> >
> >> >There are only so many notes....
> >> >
> >>
> >> ...yeah, but an infinite number of variations
> >>
> >>
> >
> >A finite number of notes can produce only a finite number of variations.
> >
> >
Lamar P. Huff
>>Fuck Paula Abdul, she sucks!!
>
>I don't think anyone here would argue with this.... :-)
How dare you discrace one of the greatest musical minds of the
90's....
(JUST KIDDING) She's nice Eye-Candy, but much like Carmen Electra her
music leaves something to be desired... I must admit, if you mute the
television their videos are rather enjoyable...
Lamar P. Huff
seilr...@my-dejanews.com
Throw Mariah Carey in there too. I won one of her videos in a contest and
watched
it several times before I realized it had any sound on it.....(My friends
couldn't figure out why she sounded so much like Yngwie (kidding))!!!!
cand...@my-dejanews.com
> Probably more chance than by design. Got a really hard time picturing Yngwie
> setting around copping Paula's "music"!!
I don't honestly think Yngwie ripper her off. But suppose he did, so what??
> Try and name 3 metal bands that don't cop some sort of Maiden.
Slayer
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
or
Metallica (it's spelled w/ double L, not C)
Rush
Van Halen
or
Exodus
Napalm Death
Morbid Angel
or
Anthrax
Type O Negative
Nirvana
or
Sepultura
Angra
Soulfly
RODRIGO
seilr...@my-dejanews.com
cand...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > Probably more chance than by design. Got a really hard time picturing Yngwie
> > setting around copping Paula's "music"!!
>
> I don't honestly think Yngwie ripper her off. But suppose he did, so what??
>
Then more power to him.....
> > Try and name 3 metal bands that don't cop some sort of Maiden.
>
> Slayer
> Judas Priest
> Black Sabbath
>
Got me on Priest and Sabbath (I should have been more specific I was referring
to post-Maiden appearing bands).
> or
>
> Metallica (it's spelled w/ double L, not C)
> Rush
> Van Halen
>
Same applies for Rush and Van Halen as Sabbath and Priest. Metallica, are you
kidding.. They break into "Run to the Hills" on Garage Days and in every
interview with Cliff he sighted (huge loss to music when he died) Steve
Harris as one of his biggest influences (oddly enough along with Geezer
Butler).
> or
>
> Exodus
> Napalm Death
> Morbid Angel
>
> or
>
> Anthrax
> Type O Negative
> Nirvana
>
> or
>
> Sepultura
> Angra
> Soulfly
>
> RODRIGO
>
> -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
>
Also probably got me on Type O Negative, Nirvana and Soulfly. I have been a
fan of the most of the people you mentioned (esp. Exodus and Anthrax) and
almost to the letter of the law..everyone has given lip service to Maiden
(more specifically Steve Harris)...Gee Funny you didn't mention Lizzy Borden,
Queensryche, New Eden, Sanctuary, W.A.S.P (the Crimson Idol), Megadeth,
Lethal, Crimson Glory, Solitude Aeturnus, Dream Theater, etc...oh wait they
all admit to the Maiden influence....
This is not to say that Maiden began all music...Steve always admits to
listening to UFO, Sabbath, the Who, Cream, Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heap, etc....
S
Strider
>riff. Moore isn't even close to his league.
True, Moore is in the top league!
Strider
Savey
snip
>
>I just find it difficult to believe that Yngwie would rip-off a Gary Moore
>riff. Moore isn't even close to his league.
>
Listen to the evidence its as clear as day. It is ripped off, simple as
that.
Not even close to his league?? Have you heard "Dirty Fingers"? Gary Moore
was playing Neo-classical scales at 18 notes per second for fun while young
Malmsteen was still speeding up his tape recorder to make his playing sound
faster.........
mx3ii4x3rgvfz0z...@lpwa.com
Not even close. Speed isn't everything. Listen to Chris Impelliteri, or
Michael Angelo. They're about as fast as I've heard, but it just isn't there.
Moore can play fast, but not as articulately. It's just not there.
Come to think of it, I can play pretty fast, but it's certainly not there.
mx3ii4x3rgvfz0z...@lpwa.com
"Strider" <No....@thank.you> wrote:
> >I just find it difficult to believe that Yngwie would rip-off a Gary Moore
> >riff. Moore isn't even close to his league.
>
>
> Strider
>
>
Perhaps in baseball. In regards to guitar playing, Moore will be looking up
at Malmsteen's feet, in the distance, for the rest of his life.
noone
be a finite number of notes and frets but expressiveness also comes from
bending, harmonics, vibrating, beating, pulling, scraping, dive-bombing,
etc. Therefore, the finite number of notes on a finite number of frets can
be translated into a number so close to infinite that it really does depend
on the player who links the techniques together to create his own musical
message.
Tod wrote in message <6oeps6$nog$1...@supernews.com>...
>Yeah, but the number of variations are so many that the numbers would run
>off the chalkboard. To the exten that someone has a mind and imagination,
I
>still believe that there he/she will never be limited.
>
>>> >
>>> >There are only so many notes....
>>> >
>>>
>>> ...yeah, but an infinite number of variations
>>>
>>>
>>
>>A finite number of notes can produce only a finite number of variations.
>>
>>
Savey
>snip>
>Moore can play fast, but not as articulately. It's just not there.
>
>Come to think of it, I can play pretty fast, but it's certainly not there.
>
>snipity snip>
>
Articulate?? Have you heard "The messiah will come again"? Have you seen
"The Loner" on the Wild Frontier video? Complete control, articulation and
all from the heart. I like Yngwie, he's a cool guitarist and one of my
favourite solos of all time is last one in Dreaming from live in
Leningrad..........but when I hear Gary Moore play "Beast of Burden" or
rippen' the old "End of the World".........that just does it for
me...........
mx3ii4x3rgvfz0z...@lpwa.com
Yeah, that's the thing about music. It's all subjective. For every guitarist
out there, there are some people who think he's the best.
I have a lot of respect for Gary Moore, but to me he'll never be a top level
player. Or at least, he isn't yet. Maybe one day he'll turn my head.
Hauke Nissen
>Yeah, that's the thing about music. It's all subjective. For every guitarist
>out there, there are some people who think he's the best.
You are so correct FOOL. You are one of the 1000's that secretly
worships the lightening fast dexterity of the might Hauke Nissen.
>I have a lot of respect for Gary Moore, but to me he'll never be a top level
>player. Or at least, he isn't yet. Maybe one day he'll turn my head.
I have no respect for the chump, but I do like him better than the
pillsbury dough boy Wingnut Porkenstien. If you want to hear a true
Shred master pick up anything by my main man Axel Rudi Pell or my
latest effort "Fro The Pure At The Heart Of Metal"! Either way you
will hear playing far superior to that Fat A$$ wife beating alcoholic
Wingnut Porkenstien!
ENFORCER will rule in 1999
Dallas Hodgson
says...
> If you want to hear a true
> Shred master pick up anything by my main man Axel Rudi Pell or my
> latest effort "Fro The Pure At The Heart Of Metal"! Either way you
> will hear playing far superior to that Fat A$$ wife beating alcoholic
> Wingnut Porkenstien!
>
> ENFORCER will rule in 1999
Get a life, chump. That whole "false metal" shtick went out at the end of
the NWOBHM, but you're probably too young to remember that. In the
meantime, go and hole up with your MANOWAR collection while you're
waiting for Axel Rudi Pell to get his lazy right eye surgically
corrected.
Will somebody PLEASE send this guy a copy of the Spinal Tap movie?
-djh
Hauke Nissen
>Get a life, chump. That whole "false metal" shtick went out at the end of
>the NWOBHM, but you're probably too young to remember that. In the
>meantime, go and hole up with your MANOWAR collection while you're
>waiting for Axel Rudi Pell to get his lazy right eye surgically
>corrected.
Unlike you, I have a life FOOL! The only "false metal" Shtick around
here is the one up your A$$! Manowar are wusses compared to the
mighty ENFORCERS! HA HA HA you critisize Axel's natural birth defect
while you worship a gluttonous HOG, you FOOL! when will you realize
that your darling Wingnut Porkenstien is nothing more than an
overweight washed up HASBEEN!
mx3ii4x3rgvfz0z...@lpwa.com
nals...@direct.ca wrote:
>
>
> >Yeah, that's the thing about music. It's all subjective. For every guitarist
> >out there, there are some people who think he's the best.
>
> You are so correct FOOL. You are one of the 1000's that secretly
> worships the lightening fast dexterity of the might Hauke Nissen.
>
Lightening fast? So you were holding back on those RA files? Because
most guitarists I know were faster than that at 16.
> >I have a lot of respect for Gary Moore, but to me he'll never be a top level
> >player. Or at least, he isn't yet. Maybe one day he'll turn my head.
>
> I have no respect for the chump, but I do like him better than the
> pillsbury dough boy Wingnut Porkenstien. If you want to hear a true
> Shred master pick up anything by my main man Axel Rudi Pell or my
> latest effort "Fro The Pure At The Heart Of Metal"! Either way you
> will hear playing far superior to that Fat A$$ wife beating alcoholic
> Wingnut Porkenstien!
>
Hey, at least you're writing his name right now. Remember when you thought
his name was Rudi Axel Pell?
I've heard your playing. Yngwie's sound tech tuning up was better, faster and
more dextrous.
Yngwie may be fat, but he's had more success and fame than you'll ever have,
which may explain this jealousy thing you have...
Still waiting for sales figures on 'For the Pure of Fart of Metal'. Has it
gone Tin in Cambodia yet? Feel free to take your shoes off if you're having
trouble adding up the sales. But I doubt you'll need more than the ten
fingers (If you have ten. From your playing, I'd guess probably two on each
hand, with webbing between)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> ENFORCER will rule in 1999
>
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
Hauke Nissen
>Lightening fast? So you were holding back on those RA files? Because
>most guitarists I know were faster than that at 16.
More humorless drivel from the Wingnut Porkenstien sheep !
>Hey, at least you're writing his name right now. Remember when you thought
>his name was Rudi Axel Pell?
Either way you say it, he is light years above and beyond your spandex
wearing 80's leftover hero! HA HA HA Wingnut has gotton so FAT that
he can't even do his signature deep knee bend pose anymore, and if he
tried it would take a forklift to pick his bloated carcass back up off
the stage!
>I've heard your playing. Yngwie's sound tech tuning up was better, faster and
>more dextrous.
Coming from someonethat is deaf in one ear, and can't hear out of the
other that means a lot.
>Yngwie may be fat, but he's had more success and fame than you'll ever have,
>which may explain this jealousy thing you have...
HE HE HE You say that now, but I am just beginning, your precious
dometic violence inclined obese hero is all washed up. The sad thing
is that you FOOLS don't realize it. You still live in a dreamland
where Wingnut is a respected guitarist. Jealous NEVER, sympathetic,
NO WAY. Ole Fat boy needs to step aside and make way for the
ENFORCERS!
>Still waiting for sales figures on 'For the Pure of Fart of Metal'. Has it
>gone Tin in Cambodia yet? Feel free to take your shoes off if you're having
>trouble adding up the sales. But I doubt you'll need more than the ten
>fingers (If you have ten. From your playing, I'd guess probably two on each
>hand, with webbing between)
HA HA HA I have taken the liberty of forwarding your posts to comedy
central! You are obviously a natural born comedian. Especially since
your posts have no grounding in reality, and are all based on jealous
lies and fabrications.
ENFORCER will rule in 1999!
>
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I told you not to look down while standing at the urinal!
Phil
wrote:
>Either way you say it, he is light years above and beyond your spandex
>wearing 80's leftover hero! HA HA HA Wingnut has gotton so FAT that
>he can't even do his signature deep knee bend pose anymore, and if he
>tried it would take a forklift to pick his bloated carcass back up off
>the stage!
Erm, ok Hauke - let's be serious for one second here.... I've heard
that Hardline's Johnny Gioeli is going to sing on the next Axel Rudi
Pell album. Any truth to these rumours?
Should be cool - I've been waiting to hear him sing since the
excellent Hardline album. A few months ago we were discussing who
Yngwie should work with if he parted company with Mats Leven and
Johnny would definitely be cool. Last I heard the Gioeli brothers were
doing an 'industrial' band - that's what our record company heard
anyway so it's good to see one of them rockin' again.
Cheers,
Phil Hackney - Lead Vocalist for 'false metal' band Double Eclipse:
http://www.thirt772.demon.co.uk/Thirt772/Index.html
Hauke Nissen
>Erm, ok Hauke - let's be serious for one second here.... I've heard
>that Hardline's Johnny Gioeli is going to sing on the next Axel Rudi
>Pell album. Any truth to these rumours?
Finally a voice of reason. I can tell right of that youhave MOLTEN
METAL flowing through your viens, Brother. I am not sure who will be
assuming vocal responsibilities for Axe'ls next album. I know he
CANNED Wingnut's former Mouth, Jeff Scott Soto. Apparantly Axel
flipped out when he found out J.S.S. was singing in a disco cover
band. POSER revealed. POSER fired!
In the mean time pick up ENFORCER's Latest effort "For The Pure At The
Heart Of Metal".
mx3ii4x3rgvfz0z...@lpwa.com
nals...@direct.ca wrote:
>
> >Lightening fast? So you were holding back on those RA files? Because
> >most guitarists I know were faster than that at 16.
>
> More humorless drivel from the Wingnut Porkenstien sheep !
>
More truth that you can't face.
> >Hey, at least you're writing his name right now. Remember when you thought
> >his name was Rudi Axel Pell?
>
> Either way you say it, he is light years above and beyond your spandex
> wearing 80's leftover hero! HA HA HA Wingnut has gotton so FAT that
> he can't even do his signature deep knee bend pose anymore, and if he
> tried it would take a forklift to pick his bloated carcass back up off
> the stage!
>
Pell is a damned good guitarist. Not quite Yngwie's level, but close. For a
guitarist better than Yngwie, look (IMO) to Marty Friedman.
> >I've heard your playing. Yngwie's sound tech tuning up was better, faster and
> >more dextrous.
>
> Coming from someonethat is deaf in one ear, and can't hear out of the
> other that means a lot.
>
Oh, I have near perfect hearing. It was a bit off after listening to those RA
files of yours. The out of key parts of the solo, and the even more out of
key singing did do damage, but it was temporary.
> >Yngwie may be fat, but he's had more success and fame than you'll ever have,
> >which may explain this jealousy thing you have...
>
> HE HE HE You say that now, but I am just beginning, your precious
> dometic violence inclined obese hero is all washed up. The sad thing
> is that you FOOLS don't realize it. You still live in a dreamland
> where Wingnut is a respected guitarist. Jealous NEVER, sympathetic,
> NO WAY. Ole Fat boy needs to step aside and make way for the
> ENFORCERS!
>
Just begining. You once posted here that you were 33 years old, and had
been playing for over 10 or 15 years. More lies?
> >Still waiting for sales figures on 'For the Pure of Fart of Metal'. Has it
> >gone Tin in Cambodia yet? Feel free to take your shoes off if you're having
> >trouble adding up the sales. But I doubt you'll need more than the ten
> >fingers (If you have ten. From your playing, I'd guess probably two on each
> >hand, with webbing between)
>
> HA HA HA I have taken the liberty of forwarding your posts to comedy
> central! You are obviously a natural born comedian. Especially since
> your posts have no grounding in reality, and are all based on jealous
> lies and fabrications.
>
Then fill me in on reality. How many units have you sold (with reference, so
I can double-check)? In fact, tell me where this CD can be purchased.
I'll buy one, and add to your count.
> ENFORCER will rule in 1999!
> >
> >
> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> I told you not to look down while standing at the urinal!
>
It's a lot easier to find than your CD. How many units sold. Sold, not given
away (to friends, stations, etc...)
Dallas Hodgson
> If you want to hear a true
> Shred master pick up anything by my main man Axel Rudi Pell or my
> latest effort "Fro The Pure At The Heart Of Metal"! Either way you
> will hear playing far superior to that Fat A$$ wife beating alcoholic
> Wingnut Porkenstien!
>
> ENFORCER will rule in 1999
Get a life, chump. That whole "false metal" shtick went out at the end of
the NWOBHM, but you're probably too young to remember that. In the
meantime, go and hole up with your MANOWAR collection while you're
waiting for Axel Rudi Pell to get his lazy right eye surgically
corrected.
Will somebody PLEASE send this guy a copy of the Spinal Tap movie?
-djh
Hauke Nissen
>More truth that you can't face.
Truth is a relative term FOOL!
>Pell is a damned good guitarist. Not quite Yngwie's level, but close. For a
>guitarist better than Yngwie, look (IMO) to Marty Friedman.
This may be your most intellegent post to date. I beg to differ about
Pell falling short of the mark set by ole Fat A$$, but I do like
Friedman. Megadeth is a TRUE METAL band. Their last effort was a
little 2 commercial for my tastes, but at least the boys know how to
rock hard when they have 2. Unlike Wingnut Porkenstien.
>Oh, I have near perfect hearing. It was a bit off after listening to those RA
>files of yours. The out of key parts of the solo, and the even more out of
>key singing did do damage, but it was temporary.
Fools, RA files are not the best format for displaying my fetboard
mastery. That was merely a thrown together demo that I did in about
15 minutes. If you hear the final product you will have no choice but
to bow to the master of the METAL domain, the Mighty Hauke Nissen!
>Just begining. You once posted here that you were 33 years old, and had
>been playing for over 10 or 15 years. More lies?
Boy you sure know a lot about me don't you. I knew you were a true
fan! I'll bet you listen to those RA files a couple of times a day,
just to get off. FOOL!
>Then fill me in on reality. How many units have you sold (with reference, so
>I can double-check)? In fact, tell me where this CD can be purchased.
>I'll buy one, and add to your count.
Double check, you don't trust me FOOL? I will have to check with our
label execs, I am too busy converting naysayers and Posers like you to
keep up with sales figures, FOOL! So now you want to buy an ENFORCER
CD eh'? There is hope for your Poser a$$ yet!
df37...@my-dejanews.com
No, truth is absolute, viewpoint is relative.
For instance, the number of albums you've sold is an absolute truth. Whether
the number is a success or not is a viewpoint.
> >Pell is a damned good guitarist. Not quite Yngwie's level, but close. For a
> >guitarist better than Yngwie, look (IMO) to Marty Friedman.
>
> This may be your most intellegent post to date. I beg to differ about
> Pell falling short of the mark set by ole Fat A$$, but I do like
> Friedman. Megadeth is a TRUE METAL band. Their last effort was a
> little 2 commercial for my tastes, but at least the boys know how to
> rock hard when they have 2. Unlike Wingnut Porkenstien.
>
The latest was a bit more commercial, but the solo of Fff kills. There's just
not enough of Marty on the album.
Yngwie can and does rock. He doesn't have the songwriting down like deth, but
he's alright. And at least there's plenty of guitar flying around his albums,
unlike the last two Megadeth albums.
> >Oh, I have near perfect hearing. It was a bit off after listening to those RA
> >files of yours. The out of key parts of the solo, and the even more out of
> >key singing did do damage, but it was temporary.
>
> Fools, RA files are not the best format for displaying my fetboard
> mastery. That was merely a thrown together demo that I did in about
> 15 minutes. If you hear the final product you will have no choice but
> to bow to the master of the METAL domain, the Mighty Hauke Nissen!
>
No, they're not. But out of key is out of key. I may not have been able to
distinguish each note you played individually, but I could hear that you
went out of key more than once, and were sloppy.
Let's hear the final product. Post a clip. In fact, post some of 'Til the End
of Time, for comparison.
> >Just begining. You once posted here that you were 33 years old, and had
> >been playing for over 10 or 15 years. More lies?
>
> Boy you sure know a lot about me don't you. I knew you were a true
> fan! I'll bet you listen to those RA files a couple of times a day,
> just to get off. FOOL!
>
Don't have the files anymore, or I'd have posted them for all the folks that
weren't here the first time. I love to share a good joke.
I know about you what you posted. I once guessed that you were some kid
who'd just started playing. You told me that you were 33, and had been playing
over 10 years. I just have a good memory.
> >Then fill me in on reality. How many units have you sold (with reference, so
> >I can double-check)? In fact, tell me where this CD can be purchased.
> >I'll buy one, and add to your count.
>
> Double check, you don't trust me FOOL? I will have to check with our
> label execs, I am too busy converting naysayers and Posers like you to
> keep up with sales figures, FOOL! So now you want to buy an ENFORCER
> CD eh'? There is hope for your Poser a$$ yet!
>
Check with them, and let me confirm it. No, I really don't trust you. Label
execs. You said it was your own label. What label is it? If I know the label,
getting the figures will be easy.
Every time you speak, you contradict something you said before.
> ENFORCER will rule in 1999
>
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
Hauke Nissen
>For instance, the number of albums you've sold is an absolute truth. Whether
>the number is a success or not is a viewpoint.
Trust me Dirk, we ARE an absolute SUCCESS! ENFORCER will soon be
bigger than the spice girls and Hanson combined, and we will be atop
the charts playing TRUE METAL, not the sugarey pop crap they spew!
>Yngwie can and does rock. He doesn't have the songwriting down like deth, but
>he's alright. And at least there's plenty of guitar flying around his albums,
>unlike the last two Megadeth albums.
True, plenty of guitar, but it all sounds EXACTLY the same! It
doesn't matter whether it's Sinking Force, or F@cking An Animal. You
can cut and paste his solos in practically any of his songs and it
doesn't make any difference! He hasn't progressed since 1984, except
in the waistline department!
>No, they're not. But out of key is out of key. I may not have been able to
>distinguish each note you played individually, but I could hear that you
>went out of key more than once, and were sloppy.
Again FOOL, that was a rough cut DEMO! And the fact that I had had
one to many didn't contribute favorably to the track either, but it is
still FAR better than anything you have ever posted, FOOL! Until you
come out from behind your desk and pick up a guitar, we don't want to
hear your critisism!
>Let's hear the final product. Post a clip. In fact, post some of 'Til the End
>of Time, for comparison.
You just can't get enough of me can you, DIRK?
>Don't have the files anymore, or I'd have posted them for all the folks that
>weren't here the first time. I love to share a good joke.
The joke's on you FOOL!
>I know about you what you posted. I once guessed that you were some kid
>who'd just started playing. You told me that you were 33, and had been playing
>over 10 years. I just have a good memory.
Sure Dirk, we all know you have burned those RA files onto a CDR so
you can listen to them over and over!
>Check with them, and let me confirm it. No, I really don't trust you. Label
>execs. You said it was your own label. What label is it? If I know the label,
>getting the figures will be easy.
Has it ever occured to you that we are now too busy to be bothered
with the day to day operations of the label, FOOL! We hired some
balding desk jokey bean counters like you to take care of the business
end of the operations. We just focus on ROCKING the crowds and
converting Naysayers and POSERS like you!
>Every time you speak, you contradict something you said before.
Everytime you speak it is more and more evident that you are a secret
ENFORCER fan!
df37...@my-dejanews.com
HOW MANY RECORDS HAVE YOU SOLD? WHAT IS THE NAME OF
YOUR RECORD COMPANY? WHERE CAN YOUR CD BE PURCHASED?
And, most importantly, WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID TO POST THIS INFO?
In article <35b725ce....@news.mindspring.com>,
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
Hauke Nissen
>And once again, Hawk avoids the question. This makes a week straight!
Once again Dirk can't help but show his interest in everything
ENFORCER, you just can't get enough can you?
>HOW MANY RECORDS HAVE YOU SOLD? WHAT IS THE NAME OF
>YOUR RECORD COMPANY? WHERE CAN YOUR CD BE PURCHASED?
If your memory was as good as you claim it is FOOL, you would remember
the name of our label. I gave you FOOLS that info 3-4 months ago, and
I don't see the need to drudge all of it up again!
>And, most importantly, WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID TO POST THIS INFO?
Afraid? Not, I FOOL. ENFORCER has nothing to fear.
Hauke Nissen
here is the one up your A$$! Manowar are wusses compared to the
mighty ENFORCERS! HA HA HA you critisize Axel's natural birth defect
while you worship a gluttonous HOG, you FOOL! when will you realize
that your darling Wingnut Porkenstien is nothing more than an
overweight washed up HASBEEN!
ENFORCER will rule in 1999
CJ
your record company? I would love to see your, oh so amazing sales.
Who the f\/ck are you to constantly and negativly critize a great
guitar player when you have your gi\uitar stuck up you "A$$"? Sure you
talk a bunch of $hit, but were are the sales? Is the community here to
good to know the name of your record company, or does it just not
exist? Why am I so defensive? Yngwie is a friend of mine, and has
proved to be one of the best guitar player around in many aspects.
Hmmmmm, I think someone has a big f\/cking ego!!!!??!?!? SO what
endorsments do you have?
F.Y.I. Some people like to stay in key when they play!
nals...@direct.ca (Hauke Nissen) wrote:
"FREEK" Site Admin.
CJ
I can certainly understand your frustration, taking into consideration
Hauke's
tendancy to speak his mind all too openly. We hope you will visit our home
page at: http://enforcer-rules.home.ml.org
Enforcer the group has decided that it is in their best interest not to
allow Hauke
to be their spokeman any longer. Again we apologise for any toe-stepping
that
Hauke may have done in the past, and assure you that in the future Enforcer
will
act more responsibly.
Check out our new "Rare Yngwie Demos" section to be added this weekend.
Since you know Yngwie personally I am sure you have heard all these clips
before,
but it might be a nice refresher anyway!
"FREEK"
Site Admin.
Official Enforcer Home Page
http://enforcer-rules.home.ml.org