Vangelis for Yes
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Just a thought, girls and boys, but does anyone know if Vangelis has been
approached for a "Yes" stint? He was on the list back when "Relayer" was
being put together. IMHO, they could do worse (Yanni - he he he!!)
YESWOLF1
The Vangelis YES audition is legendary (though it really did happen!).
Not a chance he's even remotely in mind...
Rob
yesw...@aol.com (YESWOLF1) wrote:
>The Vangelis YES audition is legendary (though it really did happen!).
>Not a chance he's even remotely in mind...
Though I still fantasize about an Anderson-Oldfield-Vangelis
collaboration. Talk about clash of the superegos.
I'll have to add that idea into my "what if Vangelis had
joined Yes" routine.
Rob
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Drop me down but don't break me, in your sleep.
Jon Harley
kudla.remo...@ties.org (Rob) writes:
>yesw...@aol.com (YESWOLF1) wrote:
>>The Vangelis YES audition is legendary (though it really did happen!).
>>Not a chance he's even remotely in mind...
>Though I still fantasize about an Anderson-Oldfield-Vangelis
>collaboration. Talk about clash of the superegos.
I've never heard that Vangelis has a big ego. He always comes
across as very mild-mannered in interviews. What have you heard
to the contrary?
AFAICR he didn't join Yes not because of ego clashes, but because
he was more interested in experimenting, improvising and composing
than in getting down to work and rehearsing some already-written
songs for concerts.
/Jon
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merry celeste
YESWOLF1 wrote:
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> The Vangelis YES audition is legendary (though it really did happen!).
> Not a chance he's even remotely in mind...
does he mention the audition in his new book, anyone who has it?
i love vangelis and would wager he *is* in the mind of at least one
member i can think of...
oxox
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YESWOLF1
>i love vangelis and would wager he *is* in the mind of at least one
>member i can think of...
merry, merry, merry! I love Vangelis, too! But after the "my drums good,
no?" session, I doubt that anyone in YES feels is a viable alternative.
Jon is responsible for having convinced Vangelis to give the mere handful
of live performances he has given as a solo artist. I had the pleasure of
seeing his live debut at UCLA, where Jon joined him on four Jon & Vangelis
tunes live -- he is a VERY mild mannered man and seemed TOTALLY
intimidated by his VERY ATTENTIVE audience -- often holding his hands
together as if to pray for God's help before starting each tune. When he
entered the stage, he seemed almost petrified.
His performance was GREAT and brought the house to it's feet several
times. Nonetheless, I could not help but think what a tragedy it might
have been for YES had they taken him on when Wakeman originally left.
YES, afterall, has always been a live-show powerhouse of individual ego,
strength, and musicianship.
wenchpoet
YESWOLF1 <yesw...@aol.com> wrote in article
> Jon is responsible for having convinced Vangelis to give the mere handful
> of live performances he has given as a solo artist. I had the pleasure
of
> seeing his live debut at UCLA, where Jon joined him on four Jon &
Vangelis
I would have loved to have seen this. When did it happen?
I wish Jon & Vangelis would get together again soon. Barring that, how
about Jon collaborating with Mark Isham? It would be...different.
(By the way, I've been lurking on this list for quite some time, but this
is only my second post. Been a Yes fan and Jon & Vangelis fan since 1975.
Shameless Boast Alert: I wrote to Jon once and he wrote back - still have
the hand-written letter.)
wenchpoet
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In Paris at the end of the final tour with Wakeman, Jon had tracked down
a Greek keyboard virtuoso named Vangelis Papathanassiou, whose work
(notably with the continental jazz/rock fusion band Aphrodite's Child)
Anderson particular admired. Loud, bearded, and tipping the scales at
well over 200 pounds minus his gaudy jewellery and trinkets, Vangelis
looked more like a wrestler, a slave trader, or a Greek resturanteur
than an accomplished musician. But when Yes regrouped their forces and
kicked off the quest for a new man, Vangelis was the first to get
Anderson's call. "We dragged him over to England,' Jon says, and at
first Papathanassiou seemed to be just what the doctor ordered. He
wasn't a carbon copy of Wakeman, and Anderson saw him as someone who
could hold up his end, while helping to shift the music in a new
direction--out of the quagmire that Jon wasn't quite admitting the band
had stumbled into with Topographic. Squire says that all and sundry were
"very excited" over the potential arrangement, though over the next
three weeks the Greek proved to be more than a handful. "He was pretty
overpowering," Steve Howe laughs. We could see the musical possibilities
right from the beginning, but we were a bit confused at the time. He was
very non-committal, and we weren't too sure if he was going to stay. "We
played great music for half an hour and were sure he was the right man.
"Okay, let's try this song now, Vangelis. We've already worked this bit
out, so just play along. " But he couldn't understand anything we said,
he wasn't used to working with a group. He was an entity, a sound, and
that entity was Vangelis. " He had all sorts of hidden talents,' Steve
adds. '''AH! THE DRUMS!" and he'd get on the drums and play like hell,
like fury, for ten minutes. Like some virtuoso at a drum school. "AH!
VERY GOOD DRUMS,HAH?" and he'd crash away at them some more-a bit like
the drummer on THE MUPPET SHOW. Everybody greatly admired him, but it
was like, "Uh... could we play this song now?" ' Exit Vangelis
Papathanassiou-though not without regrets. But as Alan White adds, " It
never would have worked; for an album maybe, but never permanently." For
the moment Yes seemed set to carry on as a four-piece, which Chris
Squire admits was " a possibility. " It would have produced simpler
music, but then that was exactly why Rick left. So it would have been a
great contradiction of terms in some ways. To have done it would have
been a backtrack statement." All told they checked out something like
eight people over the next six weeks, amidst rumours that the band were
about to settle for Nick Glennie, an unknown musician playing with
another Lane-managed band called Wally. " I wanted Keith Emerson!" Steve
Howe says. " We tried out people we knew. People we didn't know. Jon's
friend, everybody's friend, Jean Roussel came down, but he had a go at
us, he criticized us. Thought I was an out of tune guitarist, so it was
, OH! O.K. BYE,BYE. Bring in the next one." ' While the trial, error,
and bickering was going on a three-piece London based band was going
down for the third time. Lee Jackson/bass/vocals Brian Davidson/drums
and a swiss wanderer by the name of Patrick Moraz on keyboards.
excerpt from Yes-The Authorised Biography by Dan Hedges/1981 hope this
answers your ? regarding Mr. V. and a comment from me; I remember
reading in Rolling Stone at the time that the main reason Yes couldn't
keep Vangelis was the fact England would not issue him a work permit and
returned to Greece until Jon contacted him to sing on Heaven and Hell.
Also, I remember seeing the front page of a Melody Maker in 1974 with
Patrick Moraz on the cover raving about this swiss whiz on the keys in
an ex-nice project called Refugee. But on the side column there was
another article: WAKEMAN LEAVES YES-WHO WILL REPLACE RICK? Well here we
go again in 1997 I think Patrick Moraz would be an excellent choice,
only time will tell. Rand NP-Jimi Hendrix-The First Rays Of The New
Rising Sun( beautiful )
Yessng
YESWOLF1 <yesw...@aol.com> wrote in article
>
> Jon is responsible for having convinced Vangelis to give the mere
handful
> of live performances he has given as a solo artist. I had the pleasure
of
> seeing his live debut at UCLA, where Jon joined him on four Jon &
Vangelis
> tunes live....[snip]
Wenchpoet wrote:
>I would have loved to have seen this. When did it happen?
This was on November 6, 1986 at Royce Hall on the UCLA campus in Los
Angeles. I had the chance to talk to Jon briefly before the show and I
asked him if he was going to sing any songs with Vangelis. Jon said he
would if Vangelis asked him to. Apparently, Vangelis was nervous about the
show and whether Jon would sing depended on the audience's reception to
Vangelis as a solo performer. Since the reception was overwhelmingly
positive, Jon was asked to come up to the stage and sing. One of my
friends taped the 90 minute show and it is one of my favorite boots.
BTW, someone (maybe Jon) told me that Vangelis would NOT fly (as in,
travel), and that would have been a problem with Yes tours. When Vangelis
was here for that UCLA show, he had taken a ship over from Europe.
Blessings,
Roxi
shelley...@gmail.com
Saw Jon on hissolo tour (basically a warm-up for later in the year.
Loved the sho, but kept praying for "So Long Ago. So clear" (and I wasn't he only one).
I'd have settled for an acoustic version of it with him on piano. But no. It didn't happen.
bill.mut...@gmail.com
>
> I wish Jon & Vangelis would get together again soon. Barring that, how
> about Jon collaborating with Mark Isham? It would be...different.
>
>
bill.mut...@gmail.com
I'm interested in how many of the 8 actually auditioned with the band.
Bill
ps. Other than Heaven and Hell, which was standard JA, I really liked the Jon-Vangelis recordings. It was much better than any JA band. Just my opinion. But his "tour" around with Kitaro and Tangerine Dream seemed like he as grasping. I don't know what lead to the end of the J-V group efforts, only that JA really PO'd him off by an unauthorized release.