Guitar sound in Parallels?
Colin Nicholls
reproduce the totally awesome guitar tone in Parallels?
It just rocks....
- Colin
NP: "Parallels", GFTO re-issue
KMCPro615
>Any knowledgable guitar-players out there willing to suggest how to
>reproduce the totally awesome guitar tone in Parallels?
>
>It just rocks....
>
>- Colin
I don't know, but the Going for the One video features him recording that cut,
and I don't recognize the guitar he is playing at all.
KMCc:)
DLC
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> Any knowledgable guitar-players out there willing to suggest how to
> reproduce the totally awesome guitar tone in Parallels?
>
> It just rocks....
>
I believe if you check his store, Mr. Howe himself is now available for
hourly rental. ;-)
Gershonkap2
Paul Goodwin
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> I belive it was a steel guitar.
On *Parallels*??
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Paul
Hugh Macpherson
Video I have got recently of GftO tour has Howe brandishing a Strat for
Parallels. Interestingly, Fish has a Fender bass (Precision??), which is a
fairly unusual Fender pairing in Yes terms if I am not mistaken.
Hugh
ce...@webtv.net
fretless on his song parallels.
i have a copy of that video too, it looks like is was filmed in a desert
sand storm. but if you look where he plays it is directly on the
fretline, which would mean it is an uncredited fender jazz fretless.
same goes for face to face on house of yes.....he even flubs a few notes
while deciding whether to look at what he's playing or the audience.
trust me those basses are not very easy to play in tune if you can't
look at every note.
p.s. i am borrowing this internet unit from a dear friend so please keep
any responses to my commentary on the newsgroup ok?
Hugh Macpherson
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> and chris is, if you listen very carefully you can hear him playing a
> fretless on his song parallels.
To clarify, the video I was referring to from Glasgow 1977. The shot is from
the balcony and quite grainy. Can make out a Fender bass shape, but little
else.
> i have a copy of that video too, it looks like is was filmed in a desert
> sand storm. <snip>
Sandstorm & Glasgow. Two words you are not likely to hear in the same
sentence.
Sandstorm & Baghdad; or Rain & Glasgow, perhaps.
Hugh
Rand Kelly
video of making the gfto lp.
sorry 4 n e confusion.
now home. listening to awaken.
Robert Seeberger
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on the song and complains about having to have the guitar retuned
immediately afterwards.
xponent
No Whammy Maru
rob
Rand Kelly
solo where rick's pipe organ now resides in the official release.
and i can't understand why gfto does not use a steel anywhere. weird?
not really it's yes afterall. lol.
strange throwing in hold out your hand in the middle of totc though...i
like it.
i really have oved montreax's theme since yesyears-i wish they had more
stuff like that...very national health imho.
Rand Kelly
the dire-straits-sultans of swing tone with his own fx...can be achieved
by the second position of a five-way switch.
out-of-phase but thin. the fender amps keep it thin.
anybody think to ask steve on his site?
YesELPkCrimson
On page 44 of his book _The Steve Howe Guitar Collection_ he says in 1975 he
finally found a sunburst Strat that he liked, and first used it with Yes
while recording the _GFTO_ album, mainly on "Parallels". (But it doesn't say
that it's the only guitar on that track, and doesn't mention what effects he
used.)
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Mike
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KMCPro615
>Sunburst strat/maple fingerboard.
>
>Mike
>
>"Colin Nicholls" <co...@spacefold-REMOVE.com> wrote in message
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>> Any knowledgable guitar-players out there willing to suggest how to
>> reproduce the totally awesome guitar tone in Parallels?
>>
>> It just rocks....
>>
>> - Colin
>>
>> NP: "Parallels", GFTO re-issue
I have seen "The Making of GFTO" video, and the guitar Steve is playing doesn't
look like any Fender I've ever seen. I don't recognize this instrument at
all....
KMCc:)
Gershonkap2
that's what I remember from the 1997 concert in Philly.
Norbert Becker
pedal; he shifts too quickly for pedal steel?
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Mike Keller
did play another guitar (can't recall what) in the demos, but the GFTO
version had a Strat and some heavy use of the Whammy Bar. He talked about it
in the 1978 Guitar Player Magazine interview.
I believe that guitar was stolen along with the blonde Rickenbacker 12
string he used on Awaken.
Mike Keller
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KMCPro615
>I made a mistake here - it is a Sunburst Strat w/Rosewood fingerboard. He
>did play another guitar (can't recall what) in the demos, but the GFTO
>version had a Strat and some heavy use of the Whammy Bar. He talked about it
>in the 1978 Guitar Player Magazine interview.
>
>I believe that guitar was stolen along with the blonde Rickenbacker 12
>string he used on Awaken.
>
>Mike Keller
You are mistaken. I remeber the GP interview where he talked about the
Strat...but that was about what he was using on the tour...not what he recorded
it with. I saw the video of the recording session, and that was not a Fender
that he was playing. It was not a body style or headstock that I recognized at
all, and I am usually pretty on target with that stuff.
KMCc:)
Rand Kelly
resolved....lol
earlier i was referring to the studio run-through of parallels......when
steve plays pedal steel during the d minor solo....on the official
version rick plays the church organ....clear now?
Goon
> finally found a sunburst Strat that he liked, and first used it with Yes
> while recording the _GFTO_ album, mainly on "Parallels".
On the sessions video, he's playing a blue Gibson Les Paul of some kind.
--
Jon P. Moran
Goon
> sand storm. but if you look where he plays it is directly on the
> fretline, which would mean it is an uncredited fender jazz fretless.
Maybe mine's a higher-gen copy, but it's not a fretless on mine!
--
Jon P. Moran
Giles Lawrence
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And where can one get a VHS/DVD copy of this GFTO sessions video???
Giles
Lee Gately
went bad. Tooo late for me to exchange it. The box sat on my desk for
about a year, waiting for me to decide whether or not to send it to
Beyond. I didn't. Now it's too late. The disc turned brown!
I went into Best Buys today on another errand and checked to see if
there were any HOB dvds for me. No. Hardly anything YES. As a matter
of fact, the CD section had only 8 discs. This is in a store that
usually stocks 40 or more copies of YES music. Good for YES that the
items (seemingly) sold, but too bad that the shelf is not carrying
stock. No stock = no sale.
Now I've got to find a fresher copy of the HOB dvd on eBay.
www.hazardfactor.com
overall tone is very Stratty. Don't forget to turn the reverb all the way up
and listen to it from one end of a long hallway...a sure bet to nail the
tone.
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http://www.hazardfactor.com
Mike Keller
Yes songs) were done on Fender guitars, even though he is much more related
to Gibson instruments. All of Relayer was done on a Telecaster,
Tempus-Fuguit was a Strat, Parallels (as discussed), I am a Camera and the
two ending solos in Awaken were done on a Tele. Much of AWBH was done on a
Stratocaster.
Mike
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Norbert Becker
some of Howe's best moments!
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Mike Keller
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Hugh Macpherson
> Yes songs) were done on Fender guitars, even though he is much more
related
> to Gibson instruments. All of Relayer was done on a Telecaster,
> Tempus-Fuguit was a Strat, Parallels (as discussed), I am a Camera and the
> two ending solos in Awaken were done on a Tele. Much of AWBH was done on a
> Stratocaster.
...and pretty much every thing that features his Fender steel guitar.
Hugh
Rand Kelly
read the credits for steve's guitar on Release,Release it says:
Fender Broadcaster.(distinguished by the huge encompassing White pick
guard-top/bottom)...I don't think Steve uses a Telecaster on any
recording.
The Broadcaster was before the Tele...Leo only put a bridge p/u on it
stock. Steve has a custom model with a Gibson Humbucker in the neck. So
that gives him many options in tone.
He used it on all of Relayer-the latter part of Awaken after the spacey
section.-Release,Release-it does not show up on a Yes recording again
until Shock To The System...live on the Union Tour I would
clarify..because we all know about the controversy of who's doing what
right?
KMCPro615
I think we are talking about 2 different guitars. I think the Tele we associate
with him is indeed a Tele and I think its an early 70s model. Broadcasters were
the prototype of the Telecastser, and I believe were in production back in the
late 40s to early 50s. Even a nutball like Steve would not be crazy enough to
chop up a guitar of that vintage (even at that time) to slap on a humbucking.
He seems to be pretty respectful of the history and pedigree of his
instruments.
KMCc:)
DLC
From "British Rock Guitar" (Dan Hedges,1977):
"At the moment, the center of Steve's formidable (nearly seventy) guitar
arsenal is the '55 telecaster, rigged with a Fender pickup in the back and a
humbucker front pickup. This guitar has been used on 'Relayer' and is
currently his most-used guitar."
Mike Keller
Release, Release. Also, even though it has never been noted, it sure sounds
like a tele on the chorus of Does It Really Happen as well.
Mike
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KMCPro615
This is painful for me to read. I hope the author's information is wrong. That
is an unforgiveable desecration.
KMCc:)
Rand Kelly
ok-I Surrender.
after pulling out my hardly ever played The Steve Howe Album, I see a
Fender Tele with a humbucker in the neck...and a Les Paul-type p/u
switch in addition to the Fender 3-way Knife switch.
I am betting that one is non-functional because it is easier to grab the
higher toggle.
The rarity here I do believe is his Gibson EB6 Bass..looks like a giant
SG.
NO wonder his bass playing is fairly effortless.lol
Alan Dana
"KMCPro615" <kmcp...@aol.com> wrote:
> "DLC" stic...@cox.net submits:
>> From "British Rock Guitar" (Dan Hedges,1977):
>>
>> "At the moment, the center of Steve's formidable (nearly seventy) guitar
>> arsenal is the '55 telecaster, rigged with a Fender pickup in the back and a
>> humbucker front pickup. This guitar has been used on 'Relayer' and is
>> currently his most-used guitar."
>
> This is painful for me to read. I hope the author's information is wrong. That
> is an unforgiveable desecration.
Note that the article was written in 1977 and he may have modified the
guitar a few years before this. If he chopped up a '55 Tele in say, 1973,
that wouldn't have been so unforgivable at the time.
Alan
KMCPro615
Even in 1973 that kind of customization on an already classic instrument would
have been sneered at. I would like to think he regrets doing it. It appears
that he has had the sense not to repeat that kind of butchery, although I seem
to remember some vintage 4 pickup black Les Paul Custom that he was playing
during that extended Relayer tour period as well, which *also* had to be the
result of a drug tinged revelation he had in his search for "a sound" during
that.
Aside from the holes he routed into the vintage Coral Electric Sitar he uses on
CTTE (so that he could fit it onto the stand he jerry rigged for live
performances), he seems to be innocent of any further desecrations. It does
seem that all these surgeries were being performed during a similar period.
Other than that, his collection appears to be fairly pristine.
I wouldn't think he'd be slapping a Telecaster on his old war horse 175 anytime
soon....but if he does, Verge better get that power of attorney thing handled
ASAP !!!!
KMCc:)
Steven Sullivan
> and chris is, if you listen very carefully you can hear him playing a
> fretless on his song parallels.
No, he's not.
> i have a copy of that video too, it looks like is was filmed in a desert
> sand storm. but if you look where he plays it is directly on the
> fretline, which would mean it is an uncredited fender jazz fretless.
No, it isn't.
> same goes for face to face on house of yes.....he even flubs a few notes
> while deciding whether to look at what he's playing or the audience.
> trust me those basses are not very easy to play in tune if you can't
> look at every note.
It's not a fretless.
--
-S.
Steven Sullivan
Yes, but what's on the video isn't necessarily them doing the final tracks.
Howe used a Strat with a whammy bar on that one, live, IIRC.
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-S.
Steven Sullivan
> >I made a mistake here - it is a Sunburst Strat w/Rosewood fingerboard. He
> >did play another guitar (can't recall what) in the demos, but the GFTO
> >version had a Strat and some heavy use of the Whammy Bar. He talked about it
> >in the 1978 Guitar Player Magazine interview.
> >
> >I believe that guitar was stolen along with the blonde Rickenbacker 12
> >string he used on Awaken.
> >
> >Mike Keller
> You are mistaken. I remeber the GP interview where he talked about the
> Strat...but that was about what he was using on the tour...not what he recorded
> it with. I saw the video of the recording session, and that was not a Fender
> that he was playing. It was not a body style or headstock that I recognized at
> all, and I am usually pretty on target with that stuff.
YEs, btu again, that recording session was not necessarily the final
recorded tracks.
Yes worked on GftO for six or seven months, after all.
Steven Sullivan
From the Steve Howe Guitar Collection, p 44
"The first I used it [a sunburst Strat] on record for
Going for the One, mainly on 'Parallels'. That track has one of
those thoroughbred Yes arrangements: plenty of time changes ,
guitar breaks all over the place.
On Drama, 'Machine Messiah' and 'TEmpus Fugit' were pretty
much done all ont he sunburst Strat..'
'Unfrotunately, I lost that original sunburss Strat around the time of GTR..."
--
-S.
Steven Sullivan
> >"KMCPro615" <kmcp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "DLC" stic...@cox.net submits:
> >>> From "British Rock Guitar" (Dan Hedges,1977):
> >>>
> >>> "At the moment, the center of Steve's formidable (nearly seventy) guitar
> >>> arsenal is the '55 telecaster, rigged with a Fender pickup in the back and
> >a
> >>> humbucker front pickup. This guitar has been used on 'Relayer' and is
> >>> currently his most-used guitar."
> >>
> >> This is painful for me to read. I hope the author's information is wrong.
> >That
> >> is an unforgiveable desecration.
> >
> >Note that the article was written in 1977 and he may have modified the
> >guitar a few years before this. If he chopped up a '55 Tele in say, 1973,
> >that wouldn't have been so unforgivable at the time.
> >
> >Alan
> Even in 1973 that kind of customization on an already classic instrument would
> have been sneered at. I would like to think he regrets doing it. It appears
> that he has had the sense not to repeat that kind of butchery, although I seem
> to remember some vintage 4 pickup black Les Paul Custom that he was playing
> during that extended Relayer tour period as well, which *also* had to be the
> result of a drug tinged revelation he had in his search for "a sound" during
> that.
from "The Steve Howe Guitar Collection" p 43
re: 1955 Telecaster: "Quite a few players want to make their Teles more ballsy,
and the most common remedy is to replace one of the original single-coil
pickups (the one at the neck position) with a fatter-sounding humbucker,
as I did on this one. Fender reacted to the trend by issuing in 1972 a new model
witha humbucker as standard, known as the Telecaster Custom. But
I've come to realize that the key to the Tele sound, its real heart,
is the back pickup."
Paul Goodwin
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Ah.
This topic.
_Again_.
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Steven Sullivan
> Ah.
> This topic.
> _Again_.
I know.
Isn't it grand?
--
-S.
JimBroMaleModel
The Broadcaster was actually a two-pickup
guitar-identical to the Tele. Its name was changed because Gretsch already had
a
"Broadkaster" drum kit on the market. The one-pickup was The Esquire.
> Even a nutball like Steve would not be crazy enough to
>chop up a guitar of that vintage
Funny you should say that! I don't have The Steve Howe Collection book w/me,
but,
in it, is his Broadcaster. It has modifications that would horrify any vintage
enthusiast. As I recall, he replaced the
bridge w/ a Leo Quann Badass wrap-around
bridge(he's likely the only person on earth
to have performed this modification-same goes for the pickquard on his `55
Tele-he IS
a quirky fellow!),added totally superfluous
binding, and,I think, stripped its blonde finish to natural. That IS the guitar
on
"Release, Release". Also in that book is
the guitar Steve used for "Parallels" in the rehearsal video. That was a
TV-finish, double cutaway Les Paul Jr.with Bigsby Palm Pedals(individual string
benders for two of the strings-probably B&G).In the
book, Howe details butting heads with his
Yesmates over his use of the palm pedals.
It might have been on that song. I'm sure it was ultimately the Strat that made
the cut
though. So ends the first post of a long-time lurker. Hope it helps.
- Jim
Rand Kelly
regarding that video...nothing we see being played actually dictates it
ended up on the final recording. Awaken has Chris using the Rick-8 which
ends up on the title track...and on Roundabout for some octave effects.
That way-too-long bass/drum jam is very weird--he gets this Octavia
thing going and just Goes For The One I guess.
Chris/Steve singing Dylan is fun,Howe cracked me up with his new
lyrics.:
Mama take this Tele offa me
I can't play it any more
Turn it back into a tree
this is good off-the-cuff-writing.lol
I do not hear a Les Paul in Parallels...def. a Strat. Maybe I will now
recind my fretless claim in the video..but on the cd if Parallels has no
fretless...either the bass is out of tune or Chris put slippery stuff on
the strings...cause he is a slidin' fool on that song.....and that tone
is sooooo different with the Fender...sounds like bridge p/u only to me.
but I do have one ? about Chris' bass in Turn Of The Century......How
did he get a high F# in the spacey Em section just before the key change
into Emaj?
I saw that he used a low-impedance Gibson Les Paul Recording Bass on
stage in S.F. on the GFTO tour.
I can't imagine the frets on that going that high over the normal Eb
or even E at the highest. Could it be a harmonic maybe?