Predictions for Igor
J. Mcglinchey
> So what do you think?
> A $5000 fine? Possibly.
"City of Love", 8-15, he does the minimum...
Joe M.
U of Washington
Relayer54
A $5000 fine? Possibly.
How about 2 years community service (i.e. mixing Black Russians for the
Nissan crowd at the new "Ivan the Terrible" beverage stand)?
WorldMoo
> So what do you think?
> A $5000 fine? Possibly.
> Jail time? Don't think so.
I hope he does jail time. And I hope someone tries to stick a tongue down
*his* throat and bites *his* neck and squeezes *his* buttocks while he's
there. And I hope Jon forces him to recreate those scenes during the "True
You, True Me" tour. I really do.
Igor Khoroshev has had it much too easy here. He's been a cocky bastard
ever since Jon first invited him into Yes. He's talented, but he's also a
flaunter and squanderer of those talents. If these were the good ol' days,
Igor would be put in front of a firing squad (like Fydor Dostoevsky, but
without the 'just kidding' part).
Igor has a long way to go to make his garden beautiful. I vote for jail
time.
WorldMoo
Jon Encipher
Wakey and Kaye...the only true grown-ups apparently.
Steven Sullivan
: I bet it is the end of his time with Yes. Remember Moraz wasnt cut much slack.
: Wakey and Kaye...the only true grown-ups apparently.
LOL. Don't know much about their histories, do you?
Jon Encipher
LOL. Don't know much about their histories, do you?
>>
damn! got me there! I must have been...oh never mind...LOL
David Rheault
>
>
> I hope he does jail time.
Look man, this is America. NOBODY does jail time! Despite the bad rap
the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US. And if
you're a celebrity? You get the country club, dude. Igor's gonna get a
fine, suspended sentence, and community service. Beyond Mgmt might even
have a fund for stuff like this. Like Relayer says, mixing black or
white Russians would be a service to the community.
> And I hope Jon forces him to recreate those scenes during the "True
> You, True Me" tour. I really do.
Actually, going on tour to promote "True You" might constitute the
"community service" portion of his sentencing!!! ;>
What worries me more in America is any potential civil action resulting
from his behavior. $5,000 fine for criminal misdemeanors, but $500,000
in a civil court for causing "anxiety" to some hillbilly bimbo. The Deep
pockets? Yes Mgmt of course! Do I hear the world "settlement?"
Dave R.
Relayer54
LOL at the hillbilly bimbo comment. I just had a vision of Igor hitting
on a toothless, dirty-haired security woman.
Kenneth Kalls
David Rheault wrote in message <397EF2...@erols.com>...
>What worries me more in America is any potential civil action
resulting
>from his behavior. $5,000 fine for criminal misdemeanors, but
$500,000
>in a civil court for causing "anxiety" to some hillbilly bimbo.
The Deep
>pockets? Yes Mgmt of course! Do I hear the world "settlement?"
>
>Dave R.
Actually, American civil law would place no liability on Yes
management for this incident. If Igor had injured these women
through some sort of negligence, then maybe that negligence would
be imputed upwards to the band level or management level.
However, there is no such imputation of responsibility for
intentional criminal acts.
Think of it this way. If you owned a business, and if you sent
one of your employees or partners to the bank to deposit the
daily proceeds, and if they decided instead to rob the bank,
should you be made liable to the bank for their personal,
intentional wrongdoing? Over the years the law has evolved to
absolve employers on the basis that there is virtually nothing
they could ever do to sway the criminal mind. Negligence is a
different matter, since employers can usually do something to
make their operations safer. There are, of course, exceptions to
this general rule, usually in the area of failing to investigate
the past criminal propensities of an employee prior to hiring,
which is viewed as a form of employer negligence.
Ken
Chet Klock
kiss........the whole thing will be dropped?
Linda Dachtyl
Relayer54 wrote:
>
> LOL at the hillbilly bimbo comment. I just had a vision of Igor hitting
> on a toothless, dirty-haired security woman.
Oh you don't know the whole story.
Igor was singing "I am a camera" to help him remember his keyboard parts on
that song slated for the next tour. The security guard knew his English isn't
all that great and she thought it was her duty to frisk him to try to find
the camera.
Igor was just exercising self defense, that's all.
Linda
David Rheault
Ken,
Would you like to represent Igor? He could use the above advice!
Dave R.
SleeStack
> Look man, this is America. NOBODY does jail time!
You are joking right? There's 2,000,000 people in jail here in the US.
(forgive me if I'm a few hundred thousand off)
-Slee
David Rheault
Yeah, but most don't stay for long. They go through the revolving doors
of justice!
Dave R.
SleeStack
David Rheault <drhe...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:397F3A...@erols.com...
I hear you. Maybe if we stop warehousing people who smoke, eat, or sniff
the wrong substance, there just might be a little more space for serious
criminal acts, IMO. Not trying to over simplify, but it might be a good
start.
-Slee
Yesdad60
down
>*his* throat and bites *his* neck and squeezes *his* buttocks while he's
>You, True Me" tour. I really do.
>
>ever since Jon first invited him into Yes. He's talented, but he's also a
>flaunter and squanderer of those talents. If these were the good ol' days,
>Igor would be put in front of a firing squad (like Fydor Dostoevsky, but
>without the 'just kidding' part).
>
>Igor has a long way to go to make his garden beautiful. I vote for jail
>time.
>
>
>WorldMoo
Igor doing jail time won't bring Rick back, but Id settle for Adam in a New
York minute!!!!
Kenneth Kalls
David Rheault wrote in message <397F26...@erols.com>...
I would need a detailed attorney-client interview, requiring me
to travel with the band until August 4.
Wait a minute! They have probably already spent their entire
tour advances. Igor will have to be content with Court appointed
counsel for the indigent. After all, he is probably homeless as
of right now, too.
Available soon on e-bay: Certified Copy of a State of Virginia
Bond form, signed by that inimitable star of the British
supergroup Yes, Igor Koroschev.
Ken W. Kalls, Yesquire
Cherie
Nissan crowd at the new "Ivan the Terrible" beverage stand)?>>
...and then ANOTHER two years working as Wayne Newton's pianist at the Stardust
!! <G> :)
"Luuuuvin youuuuu..is easy because you're beautifull...and everytime that we
...doooooo......"
~Cherie
Theus
WorldMoo <YesT...@email.com> wrote in message
news:397E5645...@email.com...
> Relayer54 wrote:
>
> > So what do you think?
> > A $5000 fine? Possibly.
> > Jail time? Don't think so.
>
> *his* throat and bites *his* neck and squeezes *his* buttocks while he's
> there. And I hope Jon forces him to recreate those scenes during the
"True
> You, True Me" tour. I really do.
>
> Igor Khoroshev has had it much too easy here. He's been a cocky bastard
> ever since Jon first invited him into Yes. He's talented, but he's also a
> flaunter and squanderer of those talents. If these were the good ol'
days,
> Igor would be put in front of a firing squad (like Fydor Dostoevsky, but
> without the 'just kidding' part).
>
> Igor has a long way to go to make his garden beautiful. I vote for jail
> time.
>
shouldn't speak.
Kenneth Kalls
currently incarcerated, on probation, or on parole, per an
article in this morning's Detroit Free Press.
Ken W. Kalls, currently part of the system that's helping to win
the war on drugs ;-(.
SleeStack wrote in message ...
marek jedlinski
>Igor doing jail time won't bring Rick back, but Id settle for Adam in a New
>York minute!!!!
Adam Wakeman, the guy who, by his own admission (as quoted in Welch's book)
had only heard one (1) Yes album prior to the evening he was about to
substitute for Igor? He doesn't even like Yes kind of music.
.marek
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Theus
more serious.
Jon Encipher <zap...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I bet it is the end of his time with Yes. Remember Moraz wasnt cut much
slack.
Theus
Chet Klock <TheTime...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:1187-39...@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
BobDsn
>Igor doing jail time won't bring Rick back, but Id settle for Adam in a
>New
>York minute!!!!
NOW you're talking Dad! That's a *much* more interesting scenario than bringing
WakemanDad back.
-Bob Kosturko
Yesdad60
>>New
>>York minute!!!!
>
>NOW you're talking Dad! That's a *much* more interesting scenario than
>bringing
>WakemanDad back.
>
>-Bob Kosturko
I saw Adam and Rick in california a few years back, believe me, Igor has
nothing on Adam. And I'm assuming Adam has only gotten better.
yesdad
JSKAWAKEN
>...and then ANOTHER two years working as Wayne Newton's pianist at the
>Stardust!! <G> :)
> "Luuuuvin youuuuu..is easy because you're beautifull...and everytime that we
>...doooooo......"
>
>~Cherie
Assuming that what was reported IS true.
I think he owes both of those women a public apology. Of course he owes his
family one. AND he should immediately post a public apology on Yesworld, for
his fans.
We all make mistakes in life, it's what we do about them that heals the wounds.
Yesdad60
>Assuming that what was reported IS true.
>I think he owes both of those women a public apology. Of course he owes his
>family one. AND he should immediately post a public apology on Yesworld, for
>his fans.
>
>We all make mistakes in life, it's what we do about them that heals the
>wounds.
why assume anything when nobody knows the real story yet....this is america....
yesdad
gettin' ready to nibble on my sweetie's neck, hope she doesn't have me
arrested!
SleeStack
Kenneth Kalls <Tishqu...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:ul9FU6z9$GA.280@cpmsnbbsa09...
> Presently, one out of every 32 residents of the United States are
> currently incarcerated, on probation, or on parole, per an
> article in this morning's Detroit Free Press.
>
> Ken W. Kalls, currently part of the system that's helping to win
> the war on drugs ;-(.
>
-Slee
JSKAWAKEN
>why assume anything when nobody knows the real story yet....this is
>america....
How true, how true.
It is entirely possible that there may have been some mutual flirting. And
these security guards saw an opportunity for a bigger paycheck. Hey maybe if
it goes to court we'll see Igor on Court TV.
YESELPCRIM
ever since Jon first invited him into Yes. >>
Yep... Igor's life, even before Yes, had been a Cakewalk. (!)
Relayer54
>
> << How about 2 years community service (i.e. mixing Black Russians for the
> Nissan crowd at the new "Ivan the Terrible" beverage stand)?>>
>
> !! <G> :)
> "Luuuuvin youuuuu..is easy because you're beautifull...and everytime that we
> ...doooooo......"
>
> ~Cherie
Now THAT'S punishment!!!!!! I can picture Newton introducing him and
screwing up his name. "Ladies and gentleman, on piano, Mr. Ignatz
Kortenbloff".
Norvamap
Rob Allen
>
>I bet it is the end of his time with Yes. Remember Moraz wasnt cut much
>slack.
>Wakey and Kaye...the only true grown-ups apparently.
LOL! I'll go with Downes on this one.
Rob Allen
WorldMoo
Norvamap wrote:
> Lighten up Moo!
There's a time and a place for levity, Norvamap. Forgive me if I can't
find anything funny about this. Please understand that making light of
these sorts of situations perpetuates these sorts of crimes. WorldMoo
will not be a party to that.
Perhaps it's time for you to take The Pledge...?
BECAUSE:
I believe that sex with security guards will not end until many people
become part of the solution;
I am angry that security guards I know have been hurt by sex;
I know that sex with security guards is an attack on security guards'
mind, body and spirit;
I know that another security guard has sex every 46 seconds in the
United States;
I care about the security guards in my life;
I recognize that female security guards and men will not be equal until
sex with female security guards ends;
I recognize that sex with security guards is connected to all other
forms of oppression; and
I accept responsibility to assist in making this a better, safer,
sexless world;
I PLEDGE TO:
Speak out against sex with security guards;
Interrupt funny sex jokes about security guards;
Listen to each female security guard's concerns about her buttocks;
Pay attention to each security guard's concerns about sex stuff;
Challenge images of sex with security guards in advertising,
pornography, movies, TV and other media;
Examine the way men are raised that perpetuates a culture where sex with
female security guards is possible;
Support laws that hold sexy people accountable for their actions with
security guards;
Talk with other people about creating ways to stop sex with security
guards in our community;
Change anything I may be doing that perpetuates a culture where sex with
security guards is possible; and
Take action to end sex with security guards forever.
--
WorldMoo
Theus
Yesdad60 <yesd...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20000726170246...@ng-ba1.news.cs.com...
> jskawaken:
> >Assuming that what was reported IS true.
> >I think he owes both of those women a public apology. Of course he owes
his
> >family one. AND he should immediately post a public apology on Yesworld,
for
> >his fans.
> >
> >We all make mistakes in life, it's what we do about them that heals the
> >wounds.
>
america....
>
her throat and maybe made a pass at the other.
Theus
WorldMoo <YesT...@email.com> wrote in message
news:397F70F1...@email.com...
marek jedlinski
>Assuming that what was reported IS true.
>I think he owes both of those women a public apology.
That seems to be the case.
>Of course he owes his
>family one.
But this is only a matter between Igor and his family.
>AND he should immediately post a public apology on Yesworld, for
>his fans.
And *that* I certainly disagree with. If this incident harms the band in
the long term, then maybe he should apologize to them. I don't see how he
owns the fans anything except top keyboard performance.
(Tbe following analogy may be stretched a bit, but would you say Hugh Grant
owed *his* fans an apology after the fling with the call girl? In the first
place, it's none of the fans' business, both cases.)
VidEOSMM
One incident like this is not enough to can him -- Yes isn't mainstream
corporate America, you know.
Bill
Yesdad60
>had only heard one (1) Yes album prior to the evening he was about to
>substitute for Igor? He doesn't even like Yes kind of music.
Then why did Adam play a jamming version of Starship Trooper on the tales from
yesterday CD?
JSKAWAKEN
>And *that* I certainly disagree with. If this incident harms the band in
>the long term, then maybe he should apologize to them. I don't see how he
>owns the fans anything except top keyboard performance.
Of course he doesn't owe his fans an apology. I was simply stating that if he
were concerned about his image, with his fans, an acknowledgment and apology
for his mistake (if he truly did wrong these women-which we don't know for
sure) would show him to be a man who is capable of recognizing his mistakes.
And could put a very positive spin on the situation.
On the other hand, if there is more to the story and Igor really did no wrong.
Then he should state so.
But, if he did do this, and feels that there is nothing wrong with treating
women like this.
Then his best course of action would be to continue to be an excellent
musician, and not say a word.
marek jedlinski
Don't know, haven't heard it. (Actually, I'll have that album in just a few
days.) Promotion opportunity? In the Welch interview, he certainly isn't
hiding the fact that it was all rather new to him, and that it's not his
favorite kind of music.
Kevin Caffrey
>From: David Rheault drhe...@erols.com
>Date: 7/26/00 7:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <397EF2...@erols.com>
>
>WorldMoo wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> I hope he does jail time.
>
>the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US.
Uh...Jail's not really a "good deal", man.
Kevin
"Yes Fans don't beat people up," - S.LaG
http://members.aol.com/KevinCaffrey
Rob Allen
>
>>Subject: Re: Predictions for Igor
>>From: David Rheault drhe...@erols.com
>>Date: 7/26/00 7:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <397EF2...@erols.com>
>>
>>the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US.
>
>Uh...Jail's not really a "good deal", man.
I know some Eastern Europeans who think otherwise. They are quite pleased risk
jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail in
America is "like a hotel".
Rob Allen
NP: Sunny Day Real Estate, _The Rising Tide_
Todd Mitchell
>You are joking right? There's 2,000,000 people in jail here in the US.
>(forgive me if I'm a few hundred thousand off)
Several hundred thousand off. Last estimates by the Bureau of Justice Stats is
1,400,000 at the end of '99. But I'm sure we'll be at 2 million in no time.
Todd
"Try never to get drunk outside yr. own house." J. Kerouac
Kevin Caffrey
>Date: 7/29/00 4:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000729074122...@ng-fn1.aol.com>
I wouldn't have it any other way.
> wrote:
>>
>>>Subject: Re: Predictions for Igor
>>>From: David Rheault drhe...@erols.com
>>>Date: 7/26/00 7:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>>>Message-id: <397EF2...@erols.com>
>>>
>>>Look man, this is America. NOBODY does jail time! Despite the bad rap
>>>the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US.
>>
>>Uh...Jail's not really a "good deal", man.
>
>I know some Eastern Europeans who think otherwise. They are quite pleased
>risk
>jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail in
>America is "like a hotel".
>
Sound like some dumb Europeans.
Not every jail in America is "like a hotel".
SleeStack
> jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail
in
> America is "like a hotel".
>
for 23 hrs a day is not exactly the Hilton.
Talk to some people who have experienced it, it's pretty f*ckin bad.
-Slee
Steven Sullivan
: snnri...@aol.com (Kevin "quote from the top" Caffrey) wrote:
:>
:>>Subject: Re: Predictions for Igor
:>>From: David Rheault drhe...@erols.com
:>>Date: 7/26/00 7:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
:>>Message-id: <397EF2...@erols.com>
:>>
:>>Look man, this is America. NOBODY does jail time! Despite the bad rap
:>>the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US.
:>
:>Uh...Jail's not really a "good deal", man.
: I know some Eastern Europeans who think otherwise. They are quite pleased risk
: jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail in
: America is "like a hotel".
That's really more an indicator of how shitty their lived were in Eastern Europe, don't you think?
--
-S.
who'd prefer even a Super 8 to jail
Rob Allen
>Date: 7/29/00 11:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000729144754...@ng-fg1.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Predictions for Igor
>>Date: 7/29/00 4:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <20000729074122...@ng-fn1.aol.com>
makes for a bizarre looking mess, if you ask me.
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: Predictions for Igor
>>>>From: David Rheault drhe...@erols.com
>>>>Date: 7/26/00 7:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>>>>Message-id: <397EF2...@erols.com>
>>>>
>>>>Look man, this is America. NOBODY does jail time! Despite the bad rap
>>>>the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US.
>>>
>>>Uh...Jail's not really a "good deal", man.
>>
>>I know some Eastern Europeans who think otherwise. They are quite pleased
>>risk
>>jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail in
>>America is "like a hotel".
>>
>
>Sound like some dumb Europeans.
some of them might have you killed for that type of comment. The whole thing
depends on what one might be accustomed to, Kevin. Certain places...three
squares, a bed and a room, some boys to fuck...freakin' luxury.
>
>Not every jail in America is "like a hotel".
ok, we got some that are like country clubs, and some that are more
'motel'...but these guys have limited english..."like a hotel" pretty much gets
their point across, ya' know?
Rob Allen
NP: the lovin' miserys, _happy as hell_
Rob Allen
>
>They are quite pleased risk
>> jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail
>in
>> America is "like a hotel".
>>
>for 23 hrs a day is not exactly the Hilton.
>Talk to some people who have experienced it, it's pretty f*ckin bad.
hey, don't look at me, I think they're nuts.
Rob Allen
Rob Allen
>
>Rob Allen <rob...@aol.com> wrote:
>: snnri...@aol.com (Kevin "quote from the top" Caffrey) wrote:
>:>
>:>>Subject: Re: Predictions for Igor
>:>>From: David Rheault drhe...@erols.com
>:>>Date: 7/26/00 7:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>:>>Message-id: <397EF2...@erols.com>
>:>>
>:>>Look man, this is America. NOBODY does jail time! Despite the bad rap
>:>>the US gets about the death penalty, jail is good deal in the US.
>:>
>:>Uh...Jail's not really a "good deal", man.
>
>risk
>: jail time in order to "live like a King" while they are out, because jail
>in
>: America is "like a hotel".
>
>
>Europe, don't you think?
seems fairly obvious, yes.
Rob Allen
Edward Antoniu
: That's really more an indicator of how shitty their lived were in Eastern Europe, don't you think?
The life philosophy of irrational, careless excesses, of
unthoughtful extremes, as hinted by Rob Allen, are true, but maybe not
representative for Eastern Europe, as might not be the guys whom he met.
Many ways I was made to go on in my education and growing up
there seem nowadays inappropriate to me. I had a hard time accepting
there what I experienced there 5 years after I finally left, in the
year++ that I spent and worked there.
I was shocked reading about Igor's behaviour. His being
compared to Vlad the Impaler is particularly disturbing. There are at
least geographical and historical errors in that comparison. Why
wasn't he compared to Gregory Ephimovich Rasputin, or with Ivan the
Terrible, for instance?
I had completely forgotten about the interview in which he had
been using the F-word in excess. I remember I had been commenting
something to the extent of 'too bad one often adopts the lowest layers
of a language completely new to one'.
Eastern Europeans lives are shitty in that one often faces
day-to-day problems usually not encountered westwards, where people
care more for the well done work, for the quality of the offered
services, for the respect of the customer, and so on. Otherwise, they
are just human lives as any other human lives.
Eddie
donning the cap in Calgary, AB
--
Our reason to be here (Jon Anderson)
ant...@cim.mcgill.ca http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~antoniu
Steven Sullivan
: Steven Sullivan wrote:
: : That's really more an indicator of how shitty their lived were in Eastern Europe, don't you think?
: The life philosophy of irrational, careless excesses, of
: unthoughtful extremes, as hinted by Rob Allen, are true, but maybe not
: representative for Eastern Europe, as might not be the guys whom he met.
: Many ways I was made to go on in my education and growing up
: there seem nowadays inappropriate to me. I had a hard time accepting
: there what I experienced there 5 years after I finally left, in the
: year++ that I spent and worked there.
: I was shocked reading about Igor's behaviour. His being
: compared to Vlad the Impaler is particularly disturbing. There are at
: least geographical and historical errors in that comparison. Why
: wasn't he compared to Gregory Ephimovich Rasputin, or with Ivan the
: Terrible, for instance?
Because they weren't 'vampires'.
: --
: Our reason to be here (Jon Anderson)
: ant...@cim.mcgill.ca http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~antoniu
--
-S.
PASS THE DUTCHIE
Zen Cat36
all that great and she thought it was her duty to frisk him to try to find
the camera.<<
Do you think they brainwash those staffers to pounce with ruthless vengeance
against anyone holding a camera? No cameras no cameras no cameras..
Zen Cat36
Thanks to us long-suffering tax payers.
Or is it just our desire to treat someone humanely?
Zen Cat36
his fans.>>
I heard my name being summoned, as I looked around to see.. a hooded judge and
jury, there was no mercy there for me... Forever is a long time, spent in
agony, and the demons of destruction, got a place for me. Kansas~
Yesdad60
it's, uh, demons of confusion. I won't tell your buddy Robbie on you!
Zen Cat36
dad
hahah ooops! thanks tom.. altho in Igor's case, the demons of destruction are
knockin' on the door! LOL
Henry Potts
>I bet it is the end of his time with Yes. Remember Moraz wasnt cut much slack.
>Wakey and Kaye...the only true grown-ups apparently.
Really? Wakeman has been very honest about his own over-the-top
behaviour in his past -- try his memoirs -- including while he was in
Yes. And I note the band put up with it.
--
Henry
froy
Henry Potts <he...@bondegezou.demon.co.ukREMOVETOEMAIL> wrote in message
news:lQa4rJBV...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk...
Of course they put up with it he was the best musician in the band .
Igor can't stack that same claim.
> --
> Henry
Matthew J. Norris
Henry Potts <he...@bondegezou.demon.co.ukREMOVETOEMAIL> wrote:
>Jon Encipher <zap...@home.com> wrote
>>I bet it is the end of his time with Yes. Remember Moraz wasnt cut much slack.
>>Wakey and Kaye...the only true grown-ups apparently.
>
>Really? Wakeman has been very honest about his own over-the-top
>behaviour in his past -- try his memoirs -- including while he was in
>Yes. And I note the band put up with it.
>--
That behavior, of course, was all consensual and victimless. Poor
analogy.
--
Matt
Steven Sullivan
: In article <lQa4rJBV...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk>,
: Henry Potts <he...@bondegezou.demon.co.ukREMOVETOEMAIL> wrote:
Well, the parts he 'fessed to, anyway. And he did lose a family somewhere
along the way, didn't he?
It's coming out in dribs and drabs, decades after the fact, that Yesmen
weren't quite the ascetics they were made out to be in the press...then.
For example, in a recent Record Collector, Steve Howe related tales of
hotel-trashing...all in good fun, of course.
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-S.
Trubba not.
Michel Forest
Henry Potts wrote:
> Jon Encipher <zap...@home.com> wrote
> >I bet it is the end of his time with Yes. Remember Moraz wasnt cut much slack.
I believe this more had to do with personality conflicts with the rest of the group
(and maybe with the fact that Moraz was the only one in Yes who was not British).
But the Yesmen seem to like Igor.
> >Wakey and Kaye...the only true grown-ups apparently.
>
> Really? Wakeman has been very honest about his own over-the-top
> behaviour in his past -- try his memoirs -- including while he was in
> Yes. And I note the band put up with it.
Kaye, according to many reports, was quite the wild man during the early days of
the group. Bruford once described rooming with him on the road as "awful".
In a (slightly) related note, I've always wondered if the conflict between Anderson
and Squire in the late 80's was related to Squire's behaviour at the time...