Moraz keyboards on Relayer album...
JimmerG007
help would be appreciated...thanks!
Edwin Daudrich
JimmerG007 wrote:
> Does anybody have a listing of the synths Patrick Moraz used on Relayer? Any
> help would be appreciated...thanks!
Ya definitely. I'd like to know this as well.
Adam
VidEOSMM
I'd imagine that they were fairly straightforward..... Mini moogs, mellotron,
Hammond B-3, ....
check the credits on the Refugee album, as it was recorded shortly before...
and I'd imagine he'd have the same setup. There was no major mention of "new
instrumentation" at the time... I belive his ARP and souped up laser based
mellotron came later.... His first jam found that Vangelis's keyboards were
still setup, so unless he saw a new toy that he couldn't have..
This is more of a Sherlock Holmes approach to archaeology here. (Eliminate the
obvious.. etc. you know....)
However, we simply _must_ credit Moraz for bringing the "electronic slinky"
that Anderson beat on in the war section of "Gates" live, shouldn't we?
Bill
Steven Sullivan
: I'd check the tour program for the very first Relayer tour.
I believe I've psoted this once before. ANyway, here's the gear
INternational Musican magainze listed Moraz as having at the Reading
Festival in 1975. Question marks indicate items I'd like explained.
Hammond C3 organ
Fender Rhodes 73 and 88 key models
two String Thing synthesizers
Mini-Moog
a DC cabinet (?)
two Mellotrons
ARP Pro Soloist
two RHythm Ace drum machines
two Binson echo units
Alpine horn (? )
Electronic Slinky (?)
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Moraz' solo album while he was a member of Yes. There is a description of
the slinky in the liner notes.
It is simply a slinky (the child's toy) with a guitar pickup slipped down
the hole. You have to get the real metal slinky (the new plastic ones won't
work). The sound is beyond description... you just have to try it for
yourself. Dissonant, to say the least.
Pete Whipple
Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote:
> I believe I've psoted this once before. ANyway, here's the gear
> INternational Musican magainze listed Moraz as having at the Reading
> Festival in 1975. Question marks indicate items I'd like explained.
> Alpine horn (? )
> Electronic Slinky (?)
They just copied that from the tourbook. In the Relayer tourbooks,
each member has a personal section which includes such facts as
'favorite album', 'favorite songs' etc, it also includes a
'Instruments' but it doesn't say specifically that is what is being
used on stage so I always suspect it was just a listing of instruments
they own. If it is true, I image the roadies weren't too happy having
to cart an alpine horn from city to city. :-)
Pete Whipple
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David Lowndes
>help would be appreciated...thanks!
I've no idea what was used in the recording, but a list of his
instruments from the QPR/Stoke programme says:
"Hammond C3, Fender 73 & 88 pianos, 2 String Thing Synthesizers, 3
minimoogs, D6 Clavinet, 2 EMS ALS Synthesizers, 2 Mellotrons, ARP Pro
Soloist, Rhythm Ace drum machine, 2 Binson Echos, Alpine Horn,
Electronic Slinky, Grand piano, Electric Harpsichord"
Dave Lowndes
Fabian Wuest
Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> schrieb in im > : I'd check
the tour program for the very first Relayer tour.
>
> Fender Rhodes 73 and 88 key models
> two String Thing synthesizers
> Mini-Moog
> a DC cabinet (?)
> two Mellotrons
> ARP Pro Soloist
> two RHythm Ace drum machines
> two Binson echo units
Moraz live.
As you know, Patrick Moraz is originally swiss (like me).
It is a tradtitional instrument of the Swiss Alps. It sounds very ...uuhmm,
unusual. The sound reminds me a bit of a didgeridoo.
Go to http://www.alphorner.ch for further infos.
Fabian
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Edwin Daudrich
VidEOSMM wrote:
> I'd check the tour program for the very first Relayer tour.
>
> I'd imagine that they were fairly straightforward..... Mini moogs, mellotron,
> Hammond B-3, ....
>
> check the credits on the Refugee album, as it was recorded shortly before...
> and I'd imagine he'd have the same setup. There was no major mention of "new
> instrumentation" at the time... I belive his ARP and souped up laser based
> mellotron came later.... His first jam found that Vangelis's keyboards were
> still setup, so unless he saw a new toy that he couldn't have..
>
> This is more of a Sherlock Holmes approach to archaeology here. (Eliminate the
> obvious.. etc. you know....)
>
> However, we simply _must_ credit Moraz for bringing the "electronic slinky"
> that Anderson beat on in the war section of "Gates" live, shouldn't we?
Agreed. B3, grand piano, fender rhodes, probably 2 minimoogs, a mellotron. Then in
1975 he started adding things like ARP 2600, that kind of string synth (I think
it was called a "six string" for some odd reason--only six voices at once
perhaps...hmmm...). Jan Hammer was using one of those with the Jeff Beck Group and
so was Herbie for Headhunters.... oh wait no Moraz must have had one on Relayer
album. Listen to To Be Over. There are these swells of strings whose sound is
definitely not mellotron... though he did use the mellotron as well.
Any more info on this?
Adam
Edwin Daudrich
>
> Alpine horn (? )-
well he's swiss. Thanks for the information, Steve. I know I've asked before. I must
have missed the message.
Adam
HRMMGY
>definitely not mellotron...
up with CD's in it instead of tapes, that would run out---this thing could hold
a note a lot longer----we can only hope an abwh-like band will reform in 2000
with moraz on keys (seems wakeman can't tour no more)and make some good
music---after 4 months the ladder sounds worse and worse------MM
VidEOSMM
... he played a solo of acoustic piano on the first tour (white piano, stage
left), and something that was mostly Refugee on the second, before the "story
of I" etc. in 76.
Bill
VidEOSMM
Relayer.
I believe there was a monophonic "String Ensemble" or something that sounded
polyphonic, but wasn't. It had preprogrammed string and orchestral sounds.
Also, the tour program is over a year AFTER the recording of the record. I
would believe that after the first tour, ARP gave him some instruments, and Yes
bought him more toys to keep him happy. (Patrick has relayed, at least in
print, that Yes owned most of the instruments.....)
Again, the laser based keyboard came well after Relayer. Check with keyboard
magazine, or check the credits on eye.
Although I should have "i" somewhere, and remember the diagram, please explain
how you put a guitar pickup in the hole or vice versa for the slinky. You can
see Jon wacking on this in the QPR video, and apparently he and Jon at least
had something in common -- their interest in experimental "music concrete".....
Furthermore, I saw no evidence of Alpine horn in 74 (in the fall), 75 or 76
shows in Philadelphia.
Bill
Tommy
They had an Orchestron (I think) at Arnold&Morgan in Dalas in the 70's.
It used transparent LP (no CDs then) sized vinyl platters with a
film-type optical pattern in a LP-type spiral. The toeory was that you
could stack more than one disc on top of another to create complex
waveforms. Maybe the concept was flawed, or the electronics, but it
sounded like shit. No attack either (which is the price you pay for
playing from a continuous wave).
Tomy
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L. Ron Hubbard, 1967 letter to his wife submitted to the court in the
Armstrong
case, authenticity unchallenged by LRH/CoS lawyers
Tommy
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> Does anybody have a listing of the synths Patrick Moraz used on Relayer? Any
> help would be appreciated...thanks!
Don't forget (on the "I" album) the "supersonic vocaltron" - the name he
made up for splicing together tapes of singers' notes.
He was suprised and amused when he started receiving dozens of requests
for information/pricing on this "new instrument".
Tommy
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