Jon Anderson Slams Yes’ Decision To Tour With Tribute Singer
rob...@aol.com
Meanwhile, Yoso is heading out to tour Mexico. I wonder...if it was
JA instead of BK, joining forces with Circa, could they call is Yes?
I suppose they probably wouldn't, even if they could.
Rob Allen
NP: Bon Jovi, "Who Says You Can't Go Home?"
True
> http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/jon-anderson-slams-yes-decisi...
>
Interesting - the article says that Anderson "insists that despite
recent health problems he was fit and able to rejoin the band for
their current tour".
Surprising, as he's said a number of times that he can not do the
traditional tour with so many dates - rather he might consider a tour
with fewer dates.
The recordings of his summer Euro dates show his voice is not what it
once was.
BTW does anyone know what the 6 operations were? I know, presumably
they are related to his condition, but 6 operations is a large number
to have in that time span.
Chet
Now what?
YES said enough already. We all know the YES songs. Hang on to those
scriptures.
I'm ready to see a fresh Anderson/Wakeman tour with novel new material
fit for modern dreamers. ...and Jon playing electronic synth harp
bubba
youre ready for the loony bin
Henry Potts
> BTW does anyone know what the 6 operations were? I know, presumably
> they are related to his condition, but 6 operations is a large number
> to have in that time span.
March 2008, he had acute respiratory failure, but then around
September that year, he had surgery for gallbladder/liver problems.
--
Henry
Chuck
> September that year, he had surgery for gallbladder/liver problems.
> --
> Henry
I think it was May '08. I like the commentary under the story that
this band shoud be called "Maybe". Haha.
CB
"It's not the feast we throw away but the way we close the door"
progea
> http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/jon-anderson-slams-yes-decisi...
>
> JA instead of BK, joining forces with Circa, could they call is Yes?
JASA
Steven Sullivan
http://www.rockradio.co.uk/rock-news/yes-said-no-to-anderson/v45daje8/
--
-S
We have it in our power to begin the world over again - Thomas Paine
Chuck
> more of the same coverage:
>
> http://www.rockradio.co.uk/rock-news/yes-said-no-to-anderson/v45daje8/
"He's currently working on three albums' worth of material, including
a sequel to his 1976 concept release Olias of Sunhillow, and plans to
work with Wakeman again soon."
Sequel to Olias? Although I've heard rumors, I hope that is actually
happening. At least something compelling would actually be going on in
the "Yes world".
CB
"Pure imagination in a metaphoric dream"
Paul Goodwin
I'd have thought you'd have learned by now-- if it involves Yes, and
*especially* Anderson, until you have the disc/dvd in your hands, it's
nothing but the usual wishful thinking/daydreaming/bullshit.
--
Paul
Jack Rass
I'm still waiting for that Sherman Hemsley - Jon Anderson musical to
come out
Chuck
> > Sequel to Olias? Although I've heard rumors, I hope that is actually
> > happening. At least something compelling would actually be going on in
> > the "Yes world".
>
> I'd have thought you'd have learned by now-- if it involves Yes, and
> *especially* Anderson, until you have the disc/dvd in your hands, it's
> nothing but the usual wishful thinking/daydreaming/bullshit.
Understood. I'm still waiting for the symphonic version of Tales that
he was <cough>working on<cough> in the 90's.
CB
"Give love each day"
Michel Forest
You mean I should stop waiting for the 2nd Squire solo album? The one
he was supposed to do "next year" (according to his interview in
"Yesyears", the 1991(!) documentary).
True
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am comforted by the knowledge that I signed up to receive info as
soon as "True Youe, True Me" is released. I checked Igor's website but
not much in the way of an update. Should be happening soon, I hope.
Yesfan2
How about Jon starts a new band with Rick Wakeman, hire Trevor Rabin
to play guitar, Billy Sherwood to play bass and get Bill Bruford out
of retirement. Then this band will have all 5 ex-member of Yes (more
than Yes have now). They should call themselves NO and release an
album called "They Are Not Yes!".
Henry Potts
> more of the same coverage:
>
> http://www.rockradio.co.uk/rock-news/yes-said-no-to-anderson/v45daje8/
Turns out to be recycled from an interview done in July... not that
that changes the sentiment.
--
Henry
Henry Potts
_Zamran_, he's been working on it for years. There's been talk of
multiple CDs (3, 4, 5...), DVDs and a video game. It was going to be
all recorded solo like the original, but he's now working with
multiple (so far, unpaid) collaborators. When it might actually
appear, if ever...?
See http://www.bondegezou.co.uk/wnja.htm#oliasson for more.
--
Henry
Henry Potts
> You mean I should stop waiting for the 2nd Squire solo album? The one
> he was supposed to do "next year" (according to his interview in
> "Yesyears", the 1991(!) documentary).
To give him the benefit of the doubt, that album was released as
_Conspiracy_, only 8 years late!
And he *has* released a bone fide, second solo album, even if it's not
what anyone expected, in _Chris Squire's Swiss Choir_. What had been
going to be his second solo album, the material being developed with
Gerard Johnson and Paul Stacey after The Syn, appears to have stalled,
although some has been ported to the collaboration with Steve Hackett,
which is also still in development but appears to be moving faster.
--
Henry
rob...@aol.com
> Michel Forest <fore...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > You mean I should stop waiting for the 2nd Squire solo album? The one
> > he was supposed to do "next year" (according to his interview in
> > "Yesyears", the 1991(!) documentary).
>
> To give him the benefit of the doubt, that album was released as
> _Conspiracy_, only 8 years late!
hey, maybe he's only one Billy Sherwood away from doing a *fourth*
solo record.
> And he *has* released a bone fide, second solo album, even if it's not
> what anyone expected, in _Chris Squire's Swiss Choir_.
which is really the key for Squire...can't write good songs, just move
on to doing someone else's...and maybe toss on a re-release for good
measure.
>What had been
> going to be his second solo album, the material being developed with
> Gerard Johnson and Paul Stacey after The Syn, appears to have stalled,
er...*surprising*!
> although some has been ported to the collaboration with Steve Hackett,
> which is also still in development but appears to be moving faster.
so this snail got mugged by these turtles...
Rob "it all happened so fast" Allen
Michel Forest
> Michel Forest <fore...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > You mean I should stop waiting for the 2nd Squire solo album? The one
> > he was supposed to do "next year" (according to his interview in
> > "Yesyears", the 1991(!) documentary).
>
> To give him the benefit of the doubt, that album was released as
> _Conspiracy_, only 8 years late!
And in Squire time, this is actually quick!
> And he *has* released a bone fide, second solo album, even if it's not
> what anyone expected, in _Chris Squire's Swiss Choir_. What had been
> going to be his second solo album, the material being developed with
> Gerard Johnson and Paul Stacey after The Syn, appears to have stalled,
> although some has been ported to the collaboration with Steve Hackett,
> which is also still in development but appears to be moving faster.
In Squire's defense, I must say that his work on "Syndestructible" was
really good. I wish Yes could come up with songs like "Somewhere
Someday" or "Cathedral of Love".
rob...@aol.com
When Squire teams up with someone who can write a really good song,
his work can wind up being really good.
Rob "Yes is only one Nardelli away from being...complete?" Allen
Peter
> appears to be moving faster.
Faster than what?
Godolphin&fellow
> Chuck wrote:
> > Sequel to Olias? Although I've heard rumors, I hope that is actually
> > happening. At least something compelling would actually be going on in
> > the "Yes world".
>
> I'd have thought you'd have learned by now-- if it involves Yes, and
> *especially* Anderson, until you have the disc/dvd in your hands, it's
> nothing but the usual wishful thinking/daydreaming/bullshit.
Reading that "he's currently working on three albums' worth of
material", my initial thought was... it's a shame is he doesn't
RELEASE albums anymore. He just works on them.
Seems... maybe... Jon keeps waiting on the Muse of all CREATION to
strike... only, the longer we waits the further away he gets.
Meanwhile after 10 years I just wish he'd release _something_.
Chet
Re: Jon Anderson Slams Yes? Decision To Tour With Tribute Singer
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 5:11am From:
g4...@netscape.net (Godolphin&fellow)
Last night, in a dream, John Lennon told me that the Blue Meanies make
Jon depressed. They keep dropping big apples on him from high
places...so he freezes like stone; like all the rest.
Godolphin&fellow
By all appearances JA actually does a good deal of work... so it's not
just talked-about plans that come to _nothing_. (On youtube there's a
short clip "Zamran coming soon"... and that's a promise!) Problem is
seems like
he's always on to "the next thing"... Seems he's good at working from
intuition, but more and more fruition fails him... leaving behind a
mass of loose ends. (In my own smaller way I know the
feeling)...'spiritual entanglements' adding up to nagging frustration
and a sense of disappointment.
It's been a decade now since his last actual album. Even the
supposedly finished Transcendent Dance keeps getting postponed. So ...
while not exactly just 'wishful thinking'... basically you're right.
Mike Smith
> On Oct 13, 1:25 pm, Paul Goodwin <yess1nos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Chuck wrote:
>>> On Oct 13, 10:19 am, Steven Sullivan <ssu...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> more of the same coverage:
>>>> http://www.rockradio.co.uk/rock-news/yes-said-no-to-anderson/v45daje8/
>>> "He's currently working on three albums' worth of material, including
>>> a sequel to his 1976 concept release Olias of Sunhillow, and plans to
>>> work with Wakeman again soon."
>>> Sequel to Olias? Although I've heard rumors, I hope that is actually
>>> happening. At least something compelling would actually be going on in
>>> the "Yes world".
>> I'd have thought you'd have learned by now-- if it involves Yes, and
>> *especially* Anderson, until you have the disc/dvd in your hands, it's
>> nothing but the usual wishful thinking/daydreaming/bullshit.
>
> By all appearances JA actually does a good deal of work... so it's not
> just talked-about plans that come to _nothing_.
But it does appear that they come to *nothing*. It doesn't matter if
he's "working" 80 or 100 hours a week, if it doesn't come to anything.
(Well, it may have less tangible benefits for him, it may keep him busy,
he may learn things, etc. but still, ultimately, what's the point if it
doesn't lead to an end product?)
--
Mike Smith
Godolphin&fellow
I'm picturing this large, apocaLYPtically large, announcement of a
series of albums from Jon "scheduled for imminent release"... over the
next few months or the coming year, or, once they get started, a-year-
and-a-half time's tops. A welter of new music that will not only fill
the remaining slots of his Voiceprint box, but another equally large
one as well! Jon's been holding back... his various plans and
schemes, a good many of them anyway, are BOUND to be about now ready
to come to fruition.
Part of a master plan? Or just a happy intuition by which he knows...
finally it's time for old favored children to be loosed onto the
world? Who knows? But start saving up, Anderson fans! (I make no
promises, but...) ten plus years since his last real release, a
"Unicorn" *flood* seems burgeoning, (can't you feel it?) all but ready
to pour forth!
Relayer
>
> - Show quoted text -
If you go to Henry's site, it's amusing to read of all the things
planned or "nearly complete" or whatever..written 3-4 years ago. I
can't think of a single thing any of them had said was about to happen
that ever did. Maybe Return to the Center of the Earth but that is
about it. FOOW II and Olias II have been in the works for 20 years.
Yes basically is the kind of band that whatever they happen to be
doing at the moment, that's all they are doing. Squackett will never
see the light of day.
And if Jon is well enough to tour, David needs to go. Face it, Yes is
Anderson/Squire and only when they are together. Forget the legal shit
with ownership of the name, etc. If not, then David, O.Wakeman, Jimmy
Haun, Tony Levin and some (any) drummer could tour as "Yes" as they
have all appeared on some album or tour with the Yes name.
Relayer
I'd rather see him skip a sequal to Olias. That album is one of a kind
and a sequal would just mess with the memories of the original. In a
way, Angels Embrace was a sequal of sorts in terms of content. None of
these guys do anything they "predict" they will do anyway. Yes
probably has one more album and tour in them (with Anderson).
I'd like to see an Anderson/Wakeman album. And tour.
use...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk
> If you go to Henry's site, it's amusing to read of all the things
> planned or "nearly complete" or whatever..written 3-4 years ago.
There are many such projects, and of course it's always going to be a
fact of life that more things are planned than happen.
However, there are rather more such uncompleted events on Jon's page
than on anyone else's. I think that's for a variety of reasons, some
outside Jon's control, but it stands out...
> I can't think of a single thing any of them had said was about to happen
> that ever did. Maybe Return to the Center of the Earth but that is about it.
It depends what you mean, but I don't think that's true. We've
followed the story of many projects from rumours to plans to activity
to actual releases and tours. There's been the Asia reunion, with much
touring and one album already under their belt. There was Wakeman's
Henry VIII show. There's been CIRCA:, Headsets and other Billy
Sherwood projects. There was the first White album. There's been the
Colin Riley/Bill Bruford project. Lots of projects have stalled (Peter
Banks' Harmony in Diversity, Patrick Moraz/Jacob Armen album, follow-
up White album, Steve Howe/Annie Haslam album etc.), but don't
overlook all those that did come to fruition.
> FOOW II and Olias II have been in the works for 20 years.
Not really. I can't recall Anderson talking about an Olias sequel
seriously until a few years ago. He has, of course, done many, many
other solo albums since then too.
Squire did make a second album, the album he was talking about for so
many years, it just ended up getting released as by him *and* Billy
Sherwood, as _Conspiracy_. He certainly wasn't speedy about it, but
this was the project long labelled as FOOW II and it was eventually
released. As for more recent plans for a new solo album, they did
produce _Chris Squire's Swiss Choir_, even if that wasn't quite the
second solo album anyone was expecting, while further work with Gerard
Johnson/Paul Stacey has been re-directed into Squackett...
> Yes basically is the kind of band that whatever they happen to be
> doing at the moment, that's all they are doing. Squackett will never
> see the light of day.
... and I believe Squackett will see the light of day. Hackett's _Out
of the Tunnel's Mouth_ has been released, with Squire on two tracks.
Two Squackett tracks have been played live ("Aliens are Only Us..." by
Yes and "Storm Chaser" by Hackett's band). As for the proper Squackett
album, it is about three-quarters recorded. They were hoping to get it
finished before the Yes tour; that didn't happen, but I have
confidence in Hackett finishing the project!
> And if Jon is well enough to tour, David needs to go. Face it, Yes is
> Anderson/Squire and only when they are together. [...]
Whatever Jon says, he is *not* well enough to do the sort of tour Yes
are currently on. He did two lightweight shows in Canada and nearly
had to cancel the first of those after being hospitalised.
--
Henry
Peter
He was also ill and weak for the Santa Barbara show a week after those
shows.
rob...@aol.com
Peter
>
> - Show quoted text -
He's always the trouper
Chet
Godolphin&fellow
> > If you go to Henry's site, it's amusing to read of all the things
> > planned or "nearly complete" or whatever..written 3-4 years ago.
>
> There are many such projects, and of course it's always going to be a
> fact of life that more things are planned than happen.
>
> However, there are rather more such uncompleted events on Jon's page
> than on anyone else's. I think that's for a variety of reasons, some
> outside Jon's control, but it stands out...
Yeah. And another reason is that Jon has always been such a forward
looking, positive, tell-you-what's-on-my-mind kind of guy. (Henry
accumulates them thru the years.) ...Yet I imagine there have been
moments, even when in perfect health, when he has looked at his half-a-
kitchen worth of back burner projects and felt... discouraged,
overwhelmed ...?
A confounding fact is his apparently standing decision not to release
anymore albums! The album is obsolete he's said. (If each new release
netted a million sells would his view be the same?) It makes it hard
to know if he has a dozen would-be albums or thousand bits he half
finishes then moves on. As a fan I'd tell him just release 'the
stuff'. One released version doesn't mean a more fully realized one
couldn't come out later.
But most important, I hope his health improves. I was hoping that
recent comment from Rick was just exaggeration.