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Holleewould Natt

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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So Yes is currently in the studio and I've read some very interesting
rumors on this group about the music. Now, concerning the cover
artwork... Does anybody here know if Roger Dean is going to be
involved? I would guess that he'll most likely be 'cause he's been
involved with pretty much every Yes cover out there, but I would'nt
mind having a definite answer. Also, anyone know approximately when
this year we can expect this new album?


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Anders Malmsten

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Holleewould Natt wrote:
>
> So Yes is currently in the studio and I've read some very interesting
> rumors on this group about the music. Now, concerning the cover
> artwork... Does anybody here know if Roger Dean is going to be
> involved? I would guess that he'll most likely be 'cause he's been
> involved with pretty much every Yes cover out there, but I would'nt
> mind having a definite answer. Also, anyone know approximately when
> this year we can expect this new album?
>

The last question is possible to answer: some time after the summer,
probably in September od October. I agree with you that Mr Dean probably
will be making the artwork, but I have no information on this so far.

Anders

Ken Robertson

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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I heard ( yeah right )
that they wanted something a little more
like the cover " art " on TALK,
and for that reason, the new cover will
be created by the elementary school back up singers.


Giles Lawrence

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Ken Robertson wrote in message
<53603E655F979208.AF7E6754...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
t>...

>I heard ( yeah right )
>that they wanted something a little more
>like the cover " art " on TALK,

I'll ask my friend's 5 year old daughter then!


Rob MTSD

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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"Alex Van Starrex" <avan...@tig.com.au> wrote:
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>Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"?

LOL! yeah, that's it (took him less then 3 seconds in to "GftO" to say;
'sorry lads, but I woun't be doing the cover, for this one)

> For exmaple, can
>anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?

well, he *was* kinda *busy* with Asia....

>The bare logo for OYE said it all...

isn't that the one that's *just like* to one on _CttE_?

Rob Allen


Henry Potts

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Alex Van Starrex <avan...@tig.com.au> wrote
>Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"? For exmaple,
>can anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums? [...]

Dean is closest to Howe (who co-owns the classic Dean logo), which is
why Dean didn't do the YesWest albums.
--
Henry

Alex Van Starrex

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"? For exmaple, can
anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?
The bare logo for OYE said it all...


Holleewould Natt wrote in message <7d1gl1$rf2$1...@garnet.nbnet.nb.ca>...


>So Yes is currently in the studio and I've read some very interesting
>rumors on this group about the music. Now, concerning the cover
>artwork... Does anybody here know if Roger Dean is going to be
>involved? I would guess that he'll most likely be 'cause he's been
>involved with pretty much every Yes cover out there, but I would'nt
>mind having a definite answer. Also, anyone know approximately when
>this year we can expect this new album?
>
>

Newfilm99

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Is it rude to suggest that I'm a bit bored by Roger Dean covers? I mean, the
logo's fine, but frankly I would be in favor of something different.

Album covers just aren't the same anymore now that they're the size of a
coaster, anyways.

I thought the album covers were neat when I was younger, but as I get older, I
guess the appeal of "mystical, magical lands" or whatever just don't work for
me. I'd rather see a classy black and white photo of the band on the cover -
either a sitdown pose, or maybe the group gathered in a wheatfield or
something.

My favorite photo of the group was on the inside of the 'Relayer' album, with
the guys gathered around what looks like a garden bench of some sort. I'd
much prefer to have something of this sort on the cover.

The Roger Dean covers, I think, betray the seriousness of the music on the
disc. At least, that's how I've grown to feel about the "Tales" and "Relayer"
covers. When I describe the music on those albums to those not in the know as
"serious, intricate, almost orchestral-type," the wrappers in which this work
is wrapped looks adolescent.

In my opinion.

CountV

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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newf...@aol.com (Newfilm99) wrote:


> When I describe the music on those albums to those not in the know as
> "serious, intricate, almost orchestral-type," the wrappers in which this work
> is wrapped looks adolescent.
>
> In my opinion.

I agree - a great many Prog covers are like that. The style _does_ signal to
those who are on the lookout for Prog in a way, although I don't see Yes
needing that.

I would welcome something _new_ from Dean - maybe a _treated_ photograph of
the band, or something similar. But if we get more floating islands and
stuff, I for one won't be impressed.

CountV
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Henry Potts

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Newfilm99 <newf...@aol.com> wrote

>Is it rude to suggest that I'm a bit bored by Roger Dean covers? I
>mean, the logo's fine, but frankly I would be in favor of something
>different. [...]

I think Dean's recent Yes covers have been very disappointing, which is
a shame for he's still doing great work elsewhere (in architecture, for
computer games, for other band's covers).
--
Henry

kevin....@nottingham.ac.uk

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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In article <7d67d7$jc1$1...@toto.tig.com.au>, "Alex Van Starrex"
<avan...@tig.com.au> wrote:

> Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"? For exmaple, can
> anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?
> The bare logo for OYE said it all...
>

I didn't find the artwork for the KTA albums any more interesting
personally.

William Jennings

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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It's probably some kind of legal issue between Yes,Howe,and Dean. Dean's art
is used only when Howe is in the band.

kevin....@nottingham.ac.uk wrote in message ...

Désirée Davis

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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In article <kevin.bailey...@128.243.183.238>,
kevin....@nottingham.ac.uk says...

> In article <7d67d7$jc1$1...@toto.tig.com.au>, "Alex Van Starrex"
> <avan...@tig.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"? For exmaple, can
> > anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?
> > The bare logo for OYE said it all...
> >
> I didn't find the artwork for the KTA albums any more interesting
> personally.
>
It may have been interesting had he not done the same thing on a half
dozen other records...
the odd thing is, he is perfectly capable of a vast array of
topics/themes yet his album cover work seems to be stuck in floating
rock/ abstract landscape mode. Why not something along the lines of
"Morning Dragon" or "Aquaventure" instead of the same damn rocks as on
_Union_ _KtA_ or Uriah Heep's _Sea of Light_?

Désirée- who bought used Osibissa albums because they had a Dean cover

gmelin

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Désirée Davis <adrog...@cnmnetworks.spam.com> wrote in article
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| > > Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"?

I would have assumed he does work for which he is commissioned. I've been
of the impression that Yeswest didn't hire him because they wanted to make
a break from that style. I believe a similar motivation was behind the
switch to Hipgnosis in 1977. And also dumping the big stage designs. My
first Yes show was on the _Going for the One_ tour, and I clearly recall
Anderson saying how this time they were going with a simple staging because
they wanted people to focus on the music. I didn't appreciate the full
significance at the time. . .

For exmaple, can
| > > anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?

Sure. Why not? He did a cover for the band "Babe Ruth" which was
non-descript blues, and also for "Nightwing," which was vapid pop-metal
which a friend of mine insisted was "progressive" because the cover was by
Dean!

| > > The bare logo for OYE said it all...

I believe it said "Yes." That does cover it.

| > I didn't find the artwork for the KTA albums any more interesting
| > personally.
| >
| It may have been interesting had he not done the same thing on a half
| dozen other records...

Agreed. Has he done anything without circular arches in the past decade?



| Désirée- who bought used Osibissa albums because they had a Dean cover

Okay, answer a burning question I've wondered for years: what does Osibisa
sound like?

gmelin

RDubnicka

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Mar 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/29/99
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"gmelin" <gme...@csu.edu> wrote:

>Okay, answer a burning question I've wondered for years: what does Osibisa
>sound like?

A friend of mine has (had?) these albums. He put one on for me (this incident
took place in mid-80's if I remember right). I recall it being "funk". That's
the best I can describe it from my recollection.

CountV

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rdub...@aol.com (RDubnicka) wrote:

I'd call it rather stiff african-inspired funk fusion. Far from essential,
even for the most ardent fan of the genre (funk, that is - if the more
specific mix is your thing, then I'd think that they might be of interest).

CountV
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David Westbay

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Mar 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/29/99
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adrog...@cnmnetworks.spam.com (Désirée Davis) wrote:
>

Welcome back, Desiree! Or have you been around and I've just missed your
posts?

>In article <kevin.bailey...@128.243.183.238>,
>kevin....@nottingham.ac.uk says...
>> In article <7d67d7$jc1$1...@toto.tig.com.au>, "Alex Van Starrex"
>> <avan...@tig.com.au> wrote:
>>

>> > Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"? For

exmaple, can
>> > anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?

>> > The bare logo for OYE said it all...
>> >

>> I didn't find the artwork for the KTA albums any more interesting
>> personally.
>>
>It may have been interesting had he not done the same thing on a half
>dozen other records...

>the odd thing is, he is perfectly capable of a vast array of
>topics/themes yet his album cover work seems to be stuck in floating
>rock/ abstract landscape mode. Why not something along the lines of
>"Morning Dragon" or "Aquaventure" instead of the same damn rocks as on
>_Union_ _KtA_ or Uriah Heep's _Sea of Light_?

Or the more abstract stuff on the inside CD sleeves for the discs of
Yesyears? I have always liked that stuff that he did with Kai Krause for
that set and for Howe's Turbulence. Yes should try to get something like
that from him for the next one, to bring them out of the "nostalgic" feel
of those '70s-style covers like the KTAs. IMO, of course.

Dave Westbay

gmelin

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David Westbay <CSM...@prodigy.com> wrote in article
<7dof88$9flm$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...


|
| Or the more abstract stuff on the inside CD sleeves for the discs of
| Yesyears? I have always liked that stuff that he did with Kai Krause for
| that set and for Howe's Turbulence. Yes should try to get something like
| that from him for the next one, to bring them out of the "nostalgic" feel

| of those '70s-style covers like the KTAs. IMO, of course.

Yuck! Tell you what, I'll do the next Yes cover. I'll smear a paintbrush
across a piece of paper the way Dean did for _Yesyears_, but I'll charge
+half+ what he did. What a deal!

gmelin the artiste

HBeachBabe

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Mar 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/30/99
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In article <01be7992$cd52e2e0$39155682@gmelin>, gme...@csu.edu says...

>
>
> Désirée Davis <adrog...@cnmnetworks.spam.com> wrote in article
> <MPG.116824ad6...@news.cnmnetwork.com>...
>
> | > > Doesn't RD only do covers for the albums that he "likes"?
>
> I would have assumed he does work for which he is commissioned. I've been
> of the impression that Yeswest didn't hire him because they wanted to make
> a break from that style. I believe a similar motivation was behind the
> switch to Hipgnosis in 1977. And also dumping the big stage designs. My
> first Yes show was on the _Going for the One_ tour, and I clearly recall
> Anderson saying how this time they were going with a simple staging because
> they wanted people to focus on the music. I didn't appreciate the full
> significance at the time. . .
>
> For exmaple, can
> | > > anyone imagine him doing ones for the 80's albums?
>
> Sure. Why not? He did a cover for the band "Babe Ruth" which was
> non-descript blues, and also for "Nightwing," which was vapid pop-metal
> which a friend of mine insisted was "progressive" because the cover was by
> Dean!

I bought the Babe Ruth albums too, but only because they had Bernie
Marsden on them.


> | Désirée- who bought used Osibissa albums because they had a Dean cover
>

> Okay, answer a burning question I've wondered for years: what does Osibisa
> sound like?
>

> gmelin
>
Oh, you mean I have to *listen* to them too?

Désirée- resident lesbian Panther (for those who forgot)

HBeachBabe

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In article <7dof88$9flm$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
CSM...@prodigy.com says...

> adrog...@cnmnetworks.spam.com (Désirée Davis) wrote:
> >
>
> Welcome back, Desiree! Or have you been around and I've just missed your
> posts?
>
No I haven't been here. I haven't had the 2-3 hours a day to keep up
with newsgroups that I used to have. I have been working as a web
designer (something I have never done before) so learning HTML &
JavaScript has kept me pretty busy and not wanting to spend *additional*
time on my computer. But, now I'm a little more "into" what I'm doing,
plus I'm working out of my house mostly, so I once again have some free
time to discuss all things Yes.

Désirée- making that rough commute from her bed to her desk to go to work

David Westbay

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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I use my lunch break at work to catch up on things here, and this is the
only ng I check, so I can relate to not having much time to spend on
keeping up. Plus now I'm spending my evenings rehearsing for a play that
I will be appearing in next month, so my spare time has quickly dwindled
to zilch. I'm glad to see you back here, for whatever time I have to read
your notes.

Good luck in the new career line; it ought to be a good job to be in now
with the Internet growing as fast as it is.

Dave Westbay


John J Troutman

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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David Westbay wrote:

> adrog...@cnmnetworks.spam.com (HBeachBabe) wrote:
> >
> >In article <7dof88$9flm$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
> >CSM...@prodigy.com says...
> >> adrog...@cnmnetworks.spam.com (Désirée Davis) wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> Welcome back, Desiree! Or have you been around and I've just missed
> your
> >> posts?
> >>
> >No I haven't been here. I haven't had the 2-3 hours a day to keep up
> >with newsgroups that I used to have. I have been working as a web
> >designer (something I have never done before) so learning HTML &
> >JavaScript has kept me pretty busy and not wanting to spend *additional*
>
> >time on my computer. But, now I'm a little more "into" what I'm doing,
>
> >plus I'm working out of my house mostly, so I once again have some free
>
> >time to discuss all things Yes.
>
> I use my lunch break at work to catch up on things here, and this is the
> only ng I check, so I can relate to not having much time to spend on
> keeping up. Plus now I'm spending my evenings rehearsing for a play that
> I will be appearing in next month, so my spare time has quickly dwindled
> to zilch. I'm glad to see you back here, for whatever time I have to read
> your notes.

Ditto. My problem is that there are quite a few groups I like to check in on,
and non-work related use of the Net ist strictly verboten at my place of
employment. That, and some creative projects I'm actually too darn shy to
talk about eat up a good deal of my time.

> Good luck in the new career line; it ought to be a good job to be in now
> with the Internet growing as fast as it is.
>

Ditto again. And good luck with the play, Dave.

Jeff Troutman
NP: Kenny G - A Tribute to Sun Ra


Ken Robertson

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:39:09 +0000, Henry Potts
<he...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk.REMOVE-TO-EMAIL> wrote:

>Newfilm99 <newf...@aol.com> wrote
>>Is it rude to suggest that I'm a bit bored by Roger Dean covers? I
>>mean, the logo's fine, but frankly I would be in favor of something
>>different. [...]
>
>I think Dean's recent Yes covers have been very disappointing,

Does he get a pre-listen of new material, for inspiration ?
maybe that explains it.

Chet Klock

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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Imagine some Gillbert Williams art....while listening to
YES,.....sometimes I do.


Henry Potts

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Ken Robertson <kro...@NOSPAMdhc.net> wrote

>Henry Potts <he...@bondegezou.demon.co.uk.REMOVE-TO-EMAIL> wrote:
>>Newfilm99 <newf...@aol.com> wrote
>>>Is it rude to suggest that I'm a bit bored by Roger Dean covers? I
>>>mean, the logo's fine, but frankly I would be in favor of something
>>>different. [...]
>>
>>I think Dean's recent Yes covers have been very disappointing,
>
>Does he get a pre-listen of new material, for inspiration ?
>maybe that explains it. [...]

IIRC, he did both _Fragile_ and _Relayer_ without having heard the
music.
--
Henry

wka...@hotmail.com

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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Album covers are usually comissioned pieces of art. Ocassionally, an
existing painting may be commissioned instead of a new piece. A classic
example would be Guns n' Roses "Appetite for Destruction" cover. The album
title is the same as the painting's title, which inspired Axl & co. greatly.
Incidentally, that was also probably the *best* thing about the album as
well...!

Dean still gets comissioned for some album covers. I think that for the
musically uninitiated, seeing a "cool" cover can attract buyers. Yes and
Roger's careers are intertwined; they helped to market one another, whether
they realized it or not. So, naturally we "expect" to see a Dean cover on a
Yes album, or that a Dean-covered album may be a "progressive" band. The
last one I saw was for the band Space Needle, on their second album. I have
heard this band...they sound a bit like early King Crimson, but without the
virtuoso playing of Fripp & Bruford. But then again...with songs like
"Hypatia Lee" and "Where The Fuck's My Wallet?", they are most definately
*not* pop!

For the record, I can finally ever get a CD out with my music, I would want a
Dean cover...that is, if I could ever afford him...!


Regards,

William Kargel

Atlanta, GA

USA

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CountV

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wka...@hotmail.com wrote:


> Album covers are usually comissioned pieces of art. Ocassionally, an
> existing painting may be commissioned instead of a new piece. A classic
> example would be Guns n' Roses "Appetite for Destruction" cover. The album
> title is the same as the painting's title, which inspired Axl & co. greatly.
> Incidentally, that was also probably the *best* thing about the album as
> well...!

Indeed it was - and the painting was _horrible_.

CountV

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