All 3 CDs come in slimline 2CD cases, with a similar looking sticker
on each one proclaiming the bonus CDs. All three stickers say the live
tracks are from the Masterworks tour, with no mention of orchestral
overdubbing - so it appears that the Best Buy ad was a misprint
(although I haven't had a chance to listen to any of the bouns CDs
yet).
Only Borders's had the CD in their "New Release" rack - Best Buy had
it in the "Yes" slot, while FYE had it displayed in the top rung of
the rack right above the "Yes" slot, which gave it just a bit more
promotion.
BTW, I saw only one other Yesfan at any of these stores ("Hey Mike!)
buying these.
MartyB
Yeah, they placed the sticker right over the already too small Yes logo! I
noticed later that the sticker has a light grey Dean logo as a background for
the Bonus CD info. It might as well be invisible. The band might as well be
Spinal Tap. Yet another brilliant marketing job by Beyond. In addition to the
poor sticker placement, Mag does not have a prominent display in the new
release section at Best Buy (at least in my locale). It makes me wonder why
they even bothered with the bonus disc.
Markster
Markster
Markster
Markster
Yo I did the same thing here in NY.
Same prices for all three too.
Sounds GREAT!
Enjoy!
MikeYESfan
Gee, four people (so far) breathlessly reporting that they bought Mag, and
still no report on what the bonus tracks sound like.
*YESFANS*!
--
-S.
fingers crossed for #5
Exactly the same thing in the Framingham MA Best Buy that I just
visited...although at least Mag was displayed in the front of several bins all
in a row. The light grey Dean logo...wow...I'll have to look again to see if
mine even had that. Must be really invisible. DOH.
As to different bonuses in different retailers...there was nothing on the
sticker or outside packaging to tell the prospective buyer that it was a Best
Buy exclusive (although the flier did say something to that effect).
Still....one of the most ineffective looking marketing campaigns I have ever
seen. I hope it sells in spite of the amateur-hour marketing "blitz".
~Matthew
PS The live Ritual RULES!
I went to Borders today and got the CD with live version of CTTE and LDR. They
didnt even have the CD in the new release section. SHEESH !
"Borders Sale" price was $15.99.
~Cherie
<a href="http://www.petslates.com">Personalized Pet Slates</a>
<a href="http://www.portraitsofanimals.com">Pet Portraits by Cherie</a>
I bought the CD at Best Buy ($12.99).
I did not listen to LDR yet, but Ritual RULES !
The mix is nice and raw sounding...no evidence as far as I can tell of any
studio overdubs. And the mix is nicely done...you can actually hear everyone.
~Matthew
I bought the Gates of Delirium CD, and it sounds like Steve Howe helped
produce.
Let's just say the guitar is overpowering.
And not in a good way.
: I went to Borders today and got the CD with live version of CTTE and LDR. They
: didnt even have the CD in the new release section. SHEESH !
: "Borders Sale" price was $15.99.
<sigh> #5 and counting.
sixth one a charm?
*YESFANS*
--
-S.
I bought many Cds because of RMP and I'm still asking why?
God bless you, #6.
Mike
>>: I went to Borders today and got the CD with live version of CTTE and LDR.
They
: didnt even have the CD in the new release section. SHEESH !
: "Borders Sale" price was $15.99.
<sigh> #5 and counting.>>
LOL ! OK, OK.... I brought the CD in from my car where I had it playing for
the ride home...AND I'm now listening to CTTE through my very crappy computer
speakers... Chris has taken over the TV/Playstation/CD/DVD unit. Damn CRASH
BANDICOOT ! :P
Anyways... through my shitty computer speakers the song sounds kind of werid
(slow-ish) right in the beginning but picks up... I don't like the keyboard
bits that Tom plays in between Jon's verses....sounds kind of cheesy..like a
cheap Casio. Did it sound bad also in concert ? I didnt get to go.
*Pittsburgh*
I'll report more once I get this CD on a REAL player with REAL speakers.
...Chris.....turn off the Playstation !!!!!
umm... you mean *Igor*
it's from the Masterworks tour, not Yessymphonic ;-)
--
Paul
"Thanks for the job, Mickey."
..........Pluto
>umm... you mean *Igor*
>it's from the Masterworks tour, not Yessymphonic ;-)>>
Thanks for pointing out my mistake...
**Igor's** bad keyboard bits.... ;-)
I knew there were people like you. I guess Beyond's promotion is
working, after all.
--
Michael E.J. Smith
From their experience or from the recorded experience of others (history),
men learn only what their passions and their metaphysical prejudices allow
them to learn.
Aldous Huxley
They call it Russian cheese. <G> What ever happened to the "death of Igor"?
;-)
Markster
Not sure what that comment supposed to mean - maybe we're dumb enuf Yesans
to buy _Mag.._ 3 times just for bonus tracks.
Well, maybe I'm dumb enuf, but this time I went in with three others who
were gonna buy the CD anyway and were sharing the bonus tracks on CDr.
"Ritual" and "Gates" sound great. Sounds to me like no studio overdubs -
there are some small flubs and Jon's voice sounds a little stetched in a few
spots. Also, no overdubbed orchestra (unlike what was advertised on the Best
Buy website). "CttE", as in every version I've heard since they resurrected
it in the 90's, is somewhat plodding, so it's my least fav bonus track.
MartyB
As for location in the store. I could not find it at all. I looked in
all the new release displays and the Y section. I finally asked the
lady at the info booth and she pointed to it. Right there in the new
release section at the top of the stairs. You would never know it. As
others have reported, there is a label that covers the yes logo. The
ONLY way anyone will find this disk is if they already know about it
and ask for it.
I think I see what you mean about the cheesy keyboards now. The organ
solo after I get up I get down is kinda weak.
Tom
summ...@aol.com (Cherie) wrote in message news:<20011204184805...@mb-md.aol.com>...
The bonus track mixes of the Holmdel material are completely different. I
just AB'd the new versions w/ the versions I recorded from the radio
broadcast last year (which I always loved but had hoped to obtain less
compressed versions of). Well, I hate to say it but these mixes are
definitely not an improvement. The rhythm section sounds bad. Gone is the
top end of Squire's bass and the snare has a horrible resonant 1 K thunk
that'll put your eye out if you turn it up. The keys seem to dissapear
when not soloing; things like the cool rhythmic organ heard on the FM
broadcast during the Gates choruses ("Choose and renounce...") are gone.
The guitar textures are sometimes nicely legible but mostly just loud and
dry. The whole thing just doesn't sit together. I can't imagine the group
signing off on these mixes. I suspect that they chose to let Beyond take
care of it while they tour.
I love Yes but I think this is another example of lack of oversight. They
need some kindly yet forceful authority figures like they had in Brian
Lane and Eddie Offord to keep the horses from wandering out of the barn.
Sigh. Back to the Holmdel FM CD's, which now seem to sound even better.
Btw/ so far, I detect no mix/mastering differences between the the US and
UK Magnification.
Charles
NP: FIGHT CLUB DVD
> there is a label that covers the yes logo.
Can anyone provide a picture of this (not posted to here, mind you, but
maybe to a site somewhere)?
Hell, I remember trying to find my copy here in Stockholm in September and
even knowing what I was looking for, it was difficult to find. This doesn't
sound too promising at *all*.
--
CountV/John T
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts
The alt.music.yes shop: http://www.cafepress.com/amystore
http://www.members.aol.com/robmtsd/mag
crappy pic...no time to mess with it...
Rob "but it was blurry IRL too" Allen
>Can anyone provide a picture of this (not posted to here, mind you, but
>maybe to a site somewhere)?
I got the label right here...
http://members.aol.com/SummerTor/mag_label.html
Bought two of them yesterday..the one at Best Buy was 12.99 and it was
NOT on the end racks or new releases...just in the Yes section...at
FYE it was $18.99 (ouch!) and also not in the new releases or end
sections...
$15.99 at Borders, but the CD wasn't in the Yes bin or anywhere else, so I had
to go to the help desk to find out whether the store got in its shipment. Turns
out their copies of "Mag" were sitting on a cart, still waiting to be filed--so
they were in the store, but not even out for sale. This was at 6 p.m...it
wasn't as if I had walked in to the store at opening time before they would
have had a chance to put the CD out for sale.
Then to Best Buy. $12.99, but the sticker said the bonus track was "Gates." An
apparent delivery mix-up, I guess, so I didn't buy it and I have yet to find
the "Ritual" disc. Did anybody else have trouble with the wrong bonus tracks
showing up at the wrong stores? By the way, no front-store placement for the
CD, and not even a single placement on any of the half-dozen or so "new
release" shelves located throughout the store. It was just in the Yes bin.
Oh, and the stickers on the shrinkwrap stupidly concealed the Dean Yes logo on
the cover completely.
Nice job, Beyond. THIS is the marketing blitz you planned that caused us to
wait three months for this album to be released here???
Adrian
MartyB writes:
<< Ran out this morning and bot all three bonus track versions of _Mag.._
(going in with 2 other fans, BTW). Prices here in Houston ranged from
$12.99 at Best Buy to $18.99 at FYE (no wonder I never shop there).
Average price - $15.99.
All 3 CDs come in slimline 2CD cases, with a similar looking sticker
on each one proclaiming the bonus CDs. All three stickers say the live
tracks are from the Masterworks tour, with no mention of orchestral
overdubbing - so it appears that the Best Buy ad was a misprint
(although I haven't had a chance to listen to any of the bouns CDs
yet).
Only Borders's had the CD in their "New Release" rack - Best Buy had
it in the "Yes" slot, while FYE had it displayed in the top rung of
the rack right above the "Yes" slot, which gave it just a bit more
promotion.
>>
--------
"It's hard to be a human in the universe."--Deborah Holland
What a fucking mess.
The package, not the pic (well that too a bit hehe)
j/k
That is a lot of info to try and cram onto a few stickers that will obscure
the product.
Almost warrants a hole in the case, a string and a little booklet dangling.
Hey, that would draw some attention.
>That is a lot of info to try and cram onto a few stickers that will obscure
>the product.
Almost warrants a hole in the case, a string >and a little booklet dangling.
Hey, that would draw some attention.>
::::Hands Chris some string, and a hole-punch.::::
Here ya go, I nominate *you* to go into all the record stores and put the
little tags on the jewel cases. Won't that be fun ! :)
Actually, I think that re-arranging the Yes Cd's so that they'll be more
noticeable is doing a lot. Wouldn't we all make great PR agents !
*Yesfans* *wink*
We should all do this while wearing our black and purple propeller beanies
and our batman costumes, too. :D
"Ripping the M off her varsity sweater, Magnification Yeschick leapt into
the fray..."
--
"May thy errand no longer seem evil to thee, | Do NOT taunt ^ /o\
nor let thee from thy love; On earth fast | Really Pissed |/\v/---
stone I stood within doors, these spells | Off Patriotic b ^ | |
while I spoke for thee!" - Svipdagsmal | NYC Valkyrie! | / \ V
Cool, but where is the booklet?
>
> Here ya go, I nominate *you* to go into all the record stores and put the
> little tags on the jewel cases.
No, these are tags, I said booklets.
C'mon people, work with me here!
> Actually, I think that re-arranging the Yes Cd's so that they'll be more
> noticeable is doing a lot.
Great, meet me at Store One, I'll punch the holes, attach the booklets, pass
them to you and you do the arranging.
Any record store staff say anything we'll say "Back off metal nose, we're
*Yesfans*".
Or, better yet "we're from Leftbank". That'll confuse them.
> Wouldn't we all make great PR agents !
> *Yesfans* *wink*
Apparently, we have all missed some sort of wacky calling.
"What you are holding in your hands is Magnification, the latest vintage
from Yes. Magnification has been aged in orchestral casks to deliver lush
flavor without the mush aftertaste. It's overtones of Howe hops combined
with Jon Anderson crystal malt create a delicate nose, while the addition
of Squire adds great legs to an already sweet mix. Finally, the clarity
is brilliant White in color. There is a noticable absence of fruitiness
on Spirit of Survival. The body is Soft as a Dove, while In the Presence
Of brings the recipe to a high level of intoxication. We know that you
will enjoy our product responsibly and in moderation. Should you find
yourself ordering Magnification by the case, you also might want to
order purple and black propeller beanies, batman costumes, and the odd
"honorary Yes promoter" T-shirt from the URL on our booklet. For a
limited time, each shirt comes with a free bonus pair of testicles."
Only problem there is to me, "holes in jewelboxes" mean something entirely
different, and it ain't good ;-)
LOL
That's really old fashion of you Paul. People used to feel that way about
holes in noses, lips, tongues, nipples etc. as well.
What is it that I hear the youngsters say ? Don't knock it till you've tried
it.
...and let me know how it goes
Brilliant.
> Should you find
> yourself ordering Magnification by the case, you also might want to
> order purple and black propeller beanies, batman costumes, and the odd
> "honorary Yes promoter" T-shirt from the URL on our booklet. For a
> limited time, each shirt comes with a free bonus pair of testicles."
Not quite as brilliant, but funnier.
I think Mr. B got the picture. The literal absence of plumbing in no way
detracts from the presence of ample figurative endowment.
I'll try anything twice, once to try it and once to be sure.
But I was actually thinking along the lines of "jewelboxes with holes
punched in them" as meaning *deletes* ;-)
>Cool, but where is the booklet?>>
Ahh..l'll have to throw something together ....something small....but not too
expensive.....and it won't be so dark that no one can tell what the design
is..... ;-)
LOL ! And what would we do with those ? ;)
Well you could always give yours to the guy in Metallica, he could sure use
some ;-)
--
Paul (running away........................... )
><< For a
>limited time, each shirt comes with a free bonus pair of testicles." >>
>
>LOL ! And what would we do with those ? ;)
Why, replace the furry dice, of course!
Loz {:-)>
GCU Nazz
>Well you could always give yours to the guy in Metallica, he could sure use
>some ;-)>
DOH !!!!
Hmm..methinks they are already too gigantic, even for him. I do know of a few
people who could use them....or I could sell them on eBay. ;-)
ROTFL !!! Won't *that* look special ! ...some poor schmuck driving around
with *nads* hanging from their mirror. <G>
"Intoxicay - Intoxicayaytion!" :-P
Damon
Hmmm... a YesChick ripping a part of her sweater off... Um, excuse me.
I have to go see my wife about something...
<tomorrow morning> OK, I'm better now. :-)
Damon
This is a man who obviously never had the children's show "The Electric
Company" inflicted upon him. :)
Heh. Thanks. :D
>> Should you find
>> yourself ordering Magnification by the case, you also might want to
>> order purple and black propeller beanies, batman costumes, and the odd
>> "honorary Yes promoter" T-shirt from the URL on our booklet. For a
>> limited time, each shirt comes with a free bonus pair of testicles."
>
>Not quite as brilliant, but funnier.
The caffeine started wearing off around then.
>I think Mr. B got the picture. The literal absence of plumbing in no way
>detracts from the presence of ample figurative endowment.
I once had a manager who decided it would be amusing to share a joke with
the three people in his meeting. Two were male, I was the only female.
He said "I got shown this picture of a woman's rather ample chest, with
the caption: 'If you don't have any balls, you'd better have support."
Now...when people say things like this on the job, it pisses me off. It
mostly pisses me off because I am not free to razz them back the way they
deserve to be razzed without putting my own professionalism at risk. So,
unfortunately, I have to stomp off to HR and report them instead. It keeps
things nice and legal and prevents the cleaning personnel from having to
mop up the bloodstains which would otherwise eventually result.
On the other hand, when people say things like this on Usenet - especially
in a context of supreme ignorance...oh they are just SO much fair game
for the Savage Keyboard of Sonja.
Of course, if Mr. Berliant said he was sorry...but does he have the...
oh wait, let's not go there. ;-7
Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree.... (yikes!)
(Goddess knows I've had weirder things on my Yule tree at times.)
She Devil With A Rubber Chicken <reds...@liii.com> wrote in article
<9uo2mk$rhl$1...@eri0.s8.isp.nyc.eggn.net>...
| This is a man who obviously never had the children's show "The Electric
| Company" inflicted upon him. :)
"Inflicted"? Hey, don't go knocking a childern's show whose cast included
Morgan Freeman, Rita Moreno, Bill Cosby and Luis Alvarez. There was major
talent in there. I wonder if I'm the only one who remembers the network TV
special they did where they left the grammar lessons behind and did an
evening's worth of sketch comedy that even included some Firesign stuff.
--
gmelin
It's a series of asses.
-- Bill Bruford
I was kidding. I actually didn't mind the show. There were, uhhh, other
factors which interfered with my enjoyment of it. (Usually the fact that
my brother and sister were trying to kill each other because he wanted to
watch it and she didn't...)
Actually, I did, but it was SOOO long ago, and I remember absolutely
nothing about it, other than the logo, which I might be confusing with
321Contact...
Damon
I'm in Clear Lake.
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