Question bout Helpless dancer and that Beatles bit....
Maneatingcow
Just curious why that was included and if there was any special reason
for it....
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>Just curious why that was included and if there was any special reason
>for it....
>
Beatles bit ? T
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Tim
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>Why was that included? Were the Beatles big Who fans or vice versa?
>Just curious why that was included and if there was any special reason
>for it....
The excerpt included is a song called The Kids Are Alright - and it's an
early Who song not a Beatles one, although the Beatles influence is
obviously there. The opening lyric to Kids Are Alright is 'I don't mind
other guys dancing with my girl...', a song about Mod identity, being
part of the crowd and the dance culture which was such a fundamental
element of 60s Mod. In Helpless Dancer, as with much of Quadrophenia,
the subject matter is disillusionment and anger as he recounts the
things wrong in society - things which mean a whole lot more than
dancing and popping pills, hence the end lyric '...you stop dancing'.
The excerpt from Kids is really just a flashback to happier, more
carefree times when such issues did not bear heavy on his soul.
Nonetheless, even in Kids Are Alright Townshend is already expressing
doubts and exploring feelings of alienation.
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Tim
Adam Richards
wrote:
>In Helpless Dancer, as with much of Quadrophenia,
>the subject matter is disillusionment and anger as he recounts the
>things wrong in society - things which mean a whole lot more than
>dancing and popping pills, hence the end lyric '...you stop dancing'.
>The excerpt from Kids is really just a flashback to happier, more
>carefree times when such issues did not bear heavy on his soul.
>Nonetheless, even in Kids Are Alright Townshend is already expressing
>doubts and exploring feelings of alienation.
I agree. Though I always thought "Helpless dancer" was the character's
Dad singing to him, trying to advise him and saying, "Don't be a mod,
don't do this. Because if you do, if you stick your neck out, it'll
get chopped off." It's Dad's reasoning behind being a somewhat
cowardly conformist in society (but then, being a mod is a whole new
kind of conformism, ref: "I work myself to death, just to fit in") It
seems like Dad singing to him not just because of what's being said in
the song, but also because of Roger's voice - the voice is an "older"
guy singing, I always thought.
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Maneatingcow
wrote:
Yes but wasn't it originally a beatles song? I don;t follow the
Beatles that much, but I thought it was theirs.
Jeff
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 03:01:39 GMT, Tu...@irelandmail.com (Maneatingcow)
wrote:
Adam Richards
What a relief to find no one's disagreed! :-) Oh well, i s'pose
there's time for that yet...
Don't Call Me Dude
>Yes but wasn't it originally a beatles song? I don;t follow the
>Beatles that much, but I thought it was theirs.
Nope. Written by Pete Townshend. Nothing to do with the Beatles.
John
in their early pre-fame days.
At the 1965 NME Poll Winners concert the Who played right before the Beatles,
closing with "My Generation." Behind the curtain the Beatles (who were already
set up, played along with them - though the audience didn't hear it).
Other Who/Beatle connections (off the top of my head):
- the Beatles jammed on "A Quick One" during the "Let It Be" sessions.
- Roger recorded McCartney's "Giddy" on "One of the Boys."
- Pete and Kenny Jones played on McCartney's Rockestra sessions and concert
appearence in 1979.
- "Helter Skelter" was written in response to Pete's description of the
upcoming "I Can See For Miles" single.
- Keith Moon was Zak Starkey's godfather.
- Pete played on Paul's song "Angry" in 1986.
- Entwistle played on Ringo's "Everyone's in a Hurry But Me" in 1983.
- Entwistle played in Ringo's All-Starr Band in 1995.
- Ringo "interviewed" Keith for "The Kids Are Alright" movie.
- Ringo and Keith dummed together on Harry Nilsson's "Pussycats" album
(produced by Lennon) in 1974.
- Keith played in Lennon's Plastic Ono Supergroup in 1969.
- Ringo plays on Keiths "Two Sides of the Moon" album, which features a cover
of Lennon's "In My Life" and "Move Over Ms. L."
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Mike
(John) writes:
>- Keith played in Lennon's Plastic Ono Supergroup in 1969.
Really? The Toronto gig? :)
Mike
Michael Rubb
have a double cd of the show, and they aren't on it......I guess that means
it's not the compete show.......what a bummer........
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Jeff
>- the who's current drummer is Zak Starkey, son of Ringo
Jeff
Who64
> in their early pre-fame days.
> At the 1965 NME Poll Winners concert the Who played right before the Beatles,
> closing with "My Generation." Behind the curtain the Beatles (who were already
> set up, played along with them - though the audience didn't hear it).
Great info,thanks.A side note here.I have a different NME POLL Winners
Concert on Video in MINT condition..and is about 2 hrs long.It has
close to the same performers as the 1965 concert.I have to check the
year,but it is either 1964 or 1966..but what is frustrating is WHY
can't their be a video of the 1965 one?LOL.I mean this is A+ Mint.Only
if their was a video of that one,the one with The Who..damn.
Marc
John
<Really? The Toronto gig? :) >
Nope, not that one. Alan White was the drummer there (pre-Yes).
The Plastic Ono Supergroup played two songs at a London gig (can't think of
where) - "Cold Turkey" and Yoko's "Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking For
Her Hand in the Snow)." It was some time after the Toronto concert.
The band included most (if not all) of Delaney & Bonnie's band, (which at that
time included Eric Clapton, Leon Russell and George Harrison), Jim Keltner,
Nicky Hopkins, Billy Preston and others.
Both songs were released on Lennon's "Some Time in New York City" album in
1972.
Mike
(John) writes:
Did not know that. From the Keith book, I understand he hung out with Lennon at
L.A. in '75 but am not sure from memory if he played at all on Lennon's RnR
cover album.
Mike
Brian Cady
Lennon at
> L.A. in '75 but am not sure from memory if he played at all on Lennon's
RnR
> cover album.
>
> Mike
No he didn't but he did play on the Lennon-produced Harry Nilsson album
"Pussycats."
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