Joe Walsh almost in The Who
hugh jorgan
guest. Joe said Pete told him he was first choice to be the guitarist
during the 1989 tour. He was told to learn Tommy and Quadrophenia.
While on "standby", as Joe put it, word came that Roger had worked with
a guitarist on his solo albums and as singer he felt more comfortable
working with someone he was familiar with. We know what happened from
there.
Jeff K
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I was a big fan of the Eagles up until the time Bernie Leadon left and
Joe Walsh came on board. If Joe had ended up with the Who as well as
the Eagles I think that would have been a sign that God doesn't
exist....at least not for me. The Eagles were a great country rock
band, but a mediocre rock band.
Jeff K
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Jeff K.
Mike C.
Joe Walsh is a great guitarist with an image problem. He's got that whole
"drunk all the time" image, which he obviously propagates. However, the
"rock band" aspect of The Eagles has a helluva lot more to do with the
Henley/Frey monarchy than Walsh's prowess. Walsh has amazing command of
great guitar sounds and even better arranging skills. You can't put the guy
into The Eagles with one hand tied behind his back and figure that he's not
good because the band didn't become Rock icons. They were a great country
rock band and a mediocre rock band because, well, they were a mediocre rock
band. Adding Rick Derringer wouldn't have helped that.
The James Gang were certainly kick-ass. I think Walsh would have been an
amazing addition to The Who's stage sound.
--
Mike C.
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"A great percentage of people don't want a challenge. They want
something done to them, they don't want to participate. But there'll
always be maybe 15% that desire something more, and they'll search it
out. And maybe that's where art is."
- Bill Evans
keifspoon
Speaking of The Eagles, i remember hearing a story about Don Henley
telling producer Glyn Jones that he wanted to sound like John Bonham on
the next Eagle record. Glyn's response, "your not John Bonham".
Freddy Cellophane
'nuff said!
Ted Maloney
Joe Walsh was too good for the Eagles...the band or the NFL team.
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Ted Maloney
What Pete said at the time was that Joe Walsh was to join if Boltz
Bolton had a problem....in other words, Joe Walsh was the understudy.
All the paperwork had to be filled out as if Joe was joining the Who
tour, so word soon got out that Joe was to be the extra guitarist, but,
alas, it was not to be.....unfortunately.
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Skokiaan
<thewho-nos...@nospam-charlescwiddis.com> wrote:
> hugh jorgan wrote:
> What Pete said at the time was that Joe Walsh was to join if Boltz
> Bolton had a problem....in other words, Joe Walsh was the understudy.
> All the paperwork had to be filled out as if Joe was joining the Who
> tour, so word soon got out that Joe was to be the extra guitarist, but,
> alas, it was not to be.....unfortunately.
>
> T
> E
> D
Joe was also commited to Ringo Starr's first All-Starr Band tour (which
featured Zak as guest drummer on certain dates) that coincided with the
Who's 1989 tour.
I've seen Joe in six different bands, both drunk and sober, and he's
always been brilliant:
- 89 Ringo All-Starr Band (drunk)
- 92 Ringo All-Starr Band (drunk)
- With Glenn Frey (entire band drunk)
- Solo band (drunk)
- Eagles Hells Freezes Over tour (sober)
- James Gang reunion (sober)
GuessWho
Didn't take many solos.
stuth...@comcast.net
I loved the 1989 tour, kind of a continuation of the great DEEP END
band. Long shows, great song selection, 2 complete TOMMYs. Bolton was
not quite up to the job of replacing/supplementing Pete on electric
guitar, but Joe Walsh (or David Gilmour) would have been.
Bizzaro Tympanon
stuth...@comcast.net wrote:
> I loved the 1989 tour, kind of a continuation of the great DEEP END
> band. Long shows, great song selection, 2 complete TOMMYs. Bolton was
> not quite up to the job of replacing/supplementing Pete on electric
> guitar, but Joe Walsh (or David Gilmour) would have been.
Two complete Tommys?
jpsh...@gmail.com
, the
> "rock band" aspect of The Eagles has a helluva lot more to do with the
> Henley/Frey monarchy than Walsh's prowess. Walsh has amazing command of
> great guitar sounds and even better arranging skills. You can't put the guy
> into The Eagles with one hand tied behind his back and figure that he's not
> good because the band didn't become Rock icons.
Thats right. Reading the Eagles bio that came out a few years ago,
there's no doubt that there was a battle between Glyn Johns vs Don
Henley and Glen Frey. They wanted to rock more and he told them that
that was not their best asset. I think they each could later gloat
about being right, the Eagles first number one hit was Best of My Love,
which Glyn Johns produced but they certainly did become even more
popular after they replaced Glyn. But I think their best songs were
those early songs. Unfortunately when Bernie Leadon left and Joe Walsh
came in you knew what they would do. They wouldn't be playing many
songs with pedal steel anymore...................By the way, I am
excited to see what the bonus tracks on the new Rough Mix disk are
like. I always love that album.....
Me
Skokiaan wrote:
> On Jan 8, 1:18?am, Ted Maloney
I assume that you performed a breathalizer or some similar test on Joe,
and in the case of the Frey band, the entire band to have come to your
conclusions about their sobriety.
If not, you're just full of shit or perhaps your own inebriation at
the time led you to project your condition onto others.
Schmoe
> I've seen Joe in six different bands, both drunk and sober, and he's
> always been brilliant:
> - James Gang reunion (sober)
How was the James Gang reunion? Didn't hear any review of it.
Skokiaan
> I assume that you performed a breathalizer or some similar test on Joe,
> and in the case of the Frey band, the entire band to have come to your
> conclusions about their sobriety.
>
> If not, you're just full of shit or perhaps your own inebriation at
> the time led you to project your condition onto others.
Um, no Mr. Testy. First, I don't drink at concerts because I'd like to
remember anything I paid $100 to see. Second, I know Joe's history,
having heard him tell his story many times. He's been sober since 1995
and was rarely sober before that. The shows where I labeled him as
drunk were pre-1995. The obvious test is that when sober he can hit
the high notes in "In the City" and when he's drunk he mumbles it in a
much lower register.
The entire band at the Joe Walsh/Glenn Frey show was openly doing
tequilla shots on stage, complete with lemon slices and salt. Frey
even said he may throw up from all the tequilla, to which Walsh
replied: "I've seen worse!" He may have actually gotten sick because
the expected encore played on previous nights was cut from the show.
They told hilarious stories between songs and badmouthed Don Henley,
all in the round for maybe 2,000 people. One of the best concerts I've
ever seen. Westbury Music Fair, 1993.
Skokiaan
> How was the James Gang reunion? Didn't hear any review of it.
Excellent. Never dreamed I'd see the James Gang. They only did a few
shows.
Joe opened by saying "Some of you weren't even born when our albums
came out. So just think of us as really cool friends of your parents."
He also said "This is the fourth time I've played here
(Westbury)....... but it's the first time for me."
Me
On Jan 8, 5:43 pm, "Skokiaan" <skoki...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 3:37?pm, "Me" <Runnn...@AOL.com> wrote:
>
> > I assume that you performed a breathalizer or some similar test on Joe,
> > and in the case of the Frey band, the entire band to have come to your
> > conclusions about their sobriety.
>
> > If not, you're just full of shit or ?perhaps your own inebriation at
> > the time led you to project your condition onto others.Um, no Mr. Testy. First, I don't drink at concerts because I'd like to
> remember anything I paid $100 to see. Second, I know Joe's history,
> having heard him tell his story many times. He's been sober since 1995
> and was rarely sober before that. The shows where I labeled him as
> drunk were pre-1995. The obvious test is that when sober he can hit
> the high notes in "In the City" and when he's drunk he mumbles it in a
> much lower register.
>
> The entire band at the Joe Walsh/Glenn Frey show was openly doing
> tequilla shots on stage, complete with lemon slices and salt. Frey
> even said he may throw up from all the tequilla, to which Walsh
> replied: "I've seen worse!" He may have actually gotten sick because
> the expected encore played on previous nights was cut from the show.
> They told hilarious stories between songs and badmouthed Don Henley,
> all in the round for maybe 2,000 people. One of the best concerts I've
> ever seen. Westbury Music Fair, 1993.
As I guessed, you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking
about at all.
Skokiaan
> As I guessed, you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking
> about at all.
You've apparently the one person who doesn't believe Joe Walsh, one of
the world's most famous alcoholics, was ever drunk. What's next?
Holocaust denial?
I proved my point.
1. Joe was a drunk until 1995.
Source: Joe Walsh speaking on the Howard Stern Show, 2006.
2. Walsh, Frey & band were all drunk at their Westbury Music Fair gig
in 1993.
Source: My own eyes and ears. I watched them drink tequila on stage
and heard them talk about it as they did it.
Drunkenness doesn't require a PHD to diagnose.
2. Walsh, Frey & band were all drunk at their Westbury Music Fair gig
in 1993.
Source: My own eyes and ears. I watched them drink tequilla on stage
and heard them talk about it as they did it.
Drunkeness doesn't require a PHD do diagnose.
deepend
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Kyle
Entwistle admitted he had been considering forming a band with Walsh.
Schmoe
Clever or not. Yeah, sorry I missed that mini-tour. Figured it to be a gem.
Kyle
Skokiaan wrote:
> On Jan 8, 1:18?am, Ted Maloney
Walsh gave a series of presentations on the theme of "Drugs and
Creativity" at the college where I used to work. I missed his last
lecture, which must have been around '96, but it was supposedly about
how he had recently become sober and "found Jesus." (It's strange, to
put it mildly, that 12-Step groups impose Christianity on people while
purporting to be "Spiritual, not religious.") To Walsh's credit, he
didn't pretend that his newfound sobriety was a Godsend; he admitted it
had adversely affected his creativity.
Ted Maloney, P.E.
> Walsh was on Entwistle's "Too Late the Hero" album, and in '84,
> Entwistle admitted he had been considering forming a band with Walsh.
>
That would have been a great band!
Kyle
Yeah, no kidding. Entwistle also utilized Zak Starkey as a drummer way
before the idea occurred to Townshend. Too bad Townshend called the
shots in terms of what constituted the Who rather than Entwistle.
Imagine if they had had Starkey rather than Jones in the early 80s?
Skokiaan
> Entwistle also utilized Zak Starkey as a drummer way
> before the idea occurred to Townshend. Too bad Townshend called the
> shots in terms of what constituted the Who rather than Entwistle.
> Imagine if they had had Starkey rather than Jones in the early 80s?
Problem is Zak would have been just 13 when Kenny Jones joined the Who
in 1979.
Wretch
As evidenced by the fabulous "Too Late the Hero" album (not). There
might've been hope if Entwistle ceded all singing duties to Walsh, but
I doubt that would've happened. It's hard to see Entwistle's
depressing, unpleasant cynicism meshing well with Walsh's absurdity.
W
Kyle
I think Too Late the Hero is good, and that there's plenty of humor in
Entwistle's lyrics.