From a purely technical standpoint, were Yes and Led Zeppelin the greatest ROCK ensemble ever?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
were mostly improvisation oriented flashy instrumental bands, that had
less to do with rock than the ones mentioned here.
This is a good list to start
http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_inst.html
But I disagree with this list. I think these are the bands which are
in close competition to Yes and Led Zeppelin. I am choosing only the
prominent ones. Most of them are either progressive rock or heavy
metal.
The only ones which are in competition in my opinion are Rush, ELP,
Deep Purple (Machine Head lineup), Iron Maiden (The Number of The
Beast lineup), Cream, Black Sabbath and The Who
Lets start with Yes vs Led Zeppelin which is a tie in my opinion...
Yes vs Led Zeppelin (1-1 tie)
-------------------------------
Anderson vs Plant - Plant wins (Plant has a better range and can
convey emotions better)
Howe vs Page - tie (can't decide between the two guitar GODs, both
very versatile and technically strong)
Squire vs Jones - tie (Jones is underrated, both are mighty bass GODs)
Bruford vs Bonham - tie (both are my favorite drum GODs)
Wakeman vs Jones - Wakeman wins (I prefer Jones on keyboards, but I
know technically Wakeman is better)
Now Yes and Led Zeppelin vs the Rest
Yes vs Rush (4-0, Yes wins)
------------------------------------------
Anderson vs Lee - Anderson wins (Lee is good at screaming but not a
very great singer)
Howe vs Lifeson - Howe wins (though Lifeson is underrated, he is not
in the same league as the GOD Howe)
Squire vs Lee - Squire wins (Lee is a mighty bassist, but I think
Squire is slightly better)
Bruford vs Peart - tie (Peart might be slightly technical better, but
it too close to call)
Wakeman vs Lee - Wakeman wins (sorry but Lee on keyboards is nowhere
close to Wakeman)
Led Zeppelin vs Rush (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
------------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Lee - Anderson wins (Lee is good at screaming but not a very
great singer)
Page vs Lifeson - Page wins (though Lifeson is underrated, he is not
in the same league as the GOD Page)
Jones vs Lee - Squire wins (Lee is a mighty bassist, but I think Jones
is slightly better)
Bonham vs Peart - tie (Peart might be slightly technical better, but
it too close to call)
Jones vs Lee - Jones wins (they might be about equal but Jones was
more creative with that keyboard thing)
Yes vs ELP (4-1, Yes wins)
-----------------------------------------
Anderson vs Lake - Anderson wins (Lake is a pretty good singer, but
nothing special)
Howe vs Lake - Howe wins (Lake is an okay guitarist)
Squire vs Lake - Squire wins (Lake is a good bassist, but Squire is a
league above)
Bruford vs Palmer - Bruford wins (Palmer is very good, but I think
Bruford is better)
Wakeman vs Emerson - Emerson wins (Emerson is probably the most
skilled keyboardist ever, I still prefer Wakeman though)
Led Zeppelin vs ELP (4-1, Led Zeppelin wins)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Lake - Anderson wins (Lake is a pretty good singer, but
nothing special)
Page vs Lake - Howe wins (Lake is an okay guitarist)
Jones vs Lake - Squire wins (Lake is a good bassist, but Jones is a
league above)
Bonham vs Palmer - Bruford wins (Palmer is very good, but I think
Bruford is better)
Jones vs Emerson - Emerson wins (Emerson is probably the most skilled
keyboardist ever, I still prefer Jones though)
Yes vs Deep Purple (4-1, Yes wins)
-----------------------------------------
Anderson vs Gillan - Gillan wins (Gillan is technically the stronger
singer, though I prefer Anderson)
Howe vs Blackmore - Howe wins (this is a tough one, but I think Howe
is more versatile)
Squire vs Glover - Squire wins (Glover is a good bassist, but Squire
is just better)
Bruford vs Paice - Bruford wins (very tough one, but Bruford could be
more complex)
Wakeman vs Lord - Wakeman wins (Wakeman is faster and more complex
than Lord and can play more than the organ)
Led Zeppelin vs Deep Purple (3-1, Led Zeppelin wins)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Gillan - Plant wins (technically both were equal at peak, but
Plant could convey emotions better)
Page vs Blackmore - Page wins (Blackmore might be better live, but
Page is more versatile and technically as good)
Jones vs Glover - Jones wins (Glover is a good bassist, but Jones is
just better)
Bonham vs Paice - tie (very tough one and too close to call, both are
great rock drummers)
Jones vs Lord - Lord wins (Lord is technically faster and better, but
I still prefer Jones)
Yes vs Iron Maiden (3-1, Yes wins)
-----------------------------------------
Anderson vs Dickinson - Dickinson wins (Dickinson is operatic and more
powerful singer than Anderson, I still prefer Anderson)
Howe vs Murray - Howe wins (Howe is a much better guitarist than
Murray)
Howe vs Smith - Howe wins (Smith is a good guitarist, Howe is still
much better)
Squire vs Harris - tie (technically both are equal)
Bruford vs Burr - Bruford wins (sorry but Burr is not in the same
league, I like him though)
Led Zeppelin vs Iron Maiden (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Dickinson - Plant wins (Plant can do everything Dickinson
can, better)
Page vs Murray - Page wins (Page, hands down)
Page vs Smith - Page wins (Page, hands down)
Jones vs Harris - tie (technically both are equal)
Bonham vs Burr - Bonham wins (sorry but Burr is not in the same
league, I like him though)
Yes vs Cream (3-0, Yes wins)
-----------------------------------------
Anderson vs Bruce - Anderson wins (Bruce is an okay singer)
Howe vs Clapton - tie (technically a tie, but I prefer Howe by a mile)
Squire vs Bruce - Squire wins (Squire is better)
Bruford vs Baker - Bruford wins (Bruford is better)
Led Zeppelin vs Cream (3-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Bruce - Anderson wins (Bruce is an okay singer)
Page vs Clapton - tie (technically a tie, but I prefer Page by a mile)
Jones vs Bruce - Squire wins (Jones is better)
Bonham vs Baker - Bonham wins (Bonham is better)
Yes vs Black Sabbath (2-0, Yes wins)
-----------------------------------------
Anderson vs Osborne - Anderson wins (Ozzy sucks in comparison)
Howe vs Iommi - tie (technically a tie, Iommi is underrated)
Squire vs Butler - tie (technically a tie, Butler is underrated)
Bruford vs Ward - Bruford wins (Bruford is much better)
Led Zeppelin vs Black Sabbath (2-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Osborne - Plant wins (This comparison is an insult to Plant)
Page vs Iommi - tie (technically a tie, Iommi is underrated)
Jones vs Butler - tie (technically a tie, Butler is underrated)
Bonham vs Ward - Bruford wins (Ward is a poor man's Bonham)
Yes vs The Who (4-0, Yes wins)
-----------------------------------------
Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
Howe vs Townshend - Howe wins (get back to me when Pete can play
leads)
Squire vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
controversial)
Bruford vs Moon - Bruford wins (Bruford is far more versatile than
Moon)
Wakeman vs Townshend - Wakeman wins (sorry Townshend could play some
clever synth, but not in the same league)
Led Zeppelin vs The Who (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
Page vs Townshend - Page wins (get back to me when Pete can play
leads)
Jones vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
controversial)
Bonham vs Moon - Bonham wins (Bonham is far more versatile than Moon)
Jones vs Townshend - Jones wins (sorry Townshend could play some
clever synth, but not in the same league)
Rodjk #613
> I am excluding the Jazz Fusion bands who were highly technical but
> were mostly improvisation oriented flashy instrumental bands, that had
> less to do with rock than the ones mentioned here.
>
It seems you have this messed up:
Led Zeppelin vs ELP (4-1, Led Zeppelin wins)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Plant vs Lake - Anderson wins (Lake is a pretty good singer, but
nothing special)
Page vs Lake - Howe wins (Lake is an okay guitarist)
Jones vs Lake - Squire wins (Lake is a good bassist, but Jones is a
league above)
Bonham vs Palmer - Bruford wins (Palmer is very good, but I think
Bruford is better)
Jones vs Emerson - Emerson wins (Emerson is probably the most skilled
keyboardist ever, I still prefer Jones though)
I think you copied and pasted something wrong...
Rodjk #613
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
you are right. I need to substitute the Zeppelin names in there in
place of Yes names.
Kill Face
Ray
> I am excluding the Jazz Fusion bands who were highly technical but
> were mostly improvisation oriented flashy instrumental bands, that had
> less to do with rock than the ones mentioned here.
>
> Plant vs Osborne - Plant wins (This comparison is an insult to Plant)
> Page vs Iommi - tie (technically a tie, Iommi is underrated)
> Jones vs Butler - tie (technically a tie, Butler is underrated)
> Bonham vs Ward - Bruford wins (Ward is a poor man's Bonham)
>
> Yes vs The Who (4-0, Yes wins)
> -----------------------------------------
> Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> Howe vs Townshend - Howe wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> leads)
> Squire vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> controversial)
> Bruford vs Moon - Bruford wins (Bruford is far more versatile than
> Moon)
> Wakeman vs Townshend - Wakeman wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> clever synth, but not in the same league)
>
> Led Zeppelin vs The Who (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
> Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> Page vs Townshend - Page wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> leads)
> Jones vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> controversial)
> Bonham vs Moon - Bonham wins (Bonham is far more versatile than Moon)
> Jones vs Townshend - Jones wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> clever synth, but not in the same league)
I'm guessing you own about six albums. Here's a clue, oh clueless one,
there were more than five rock bands around in the early seventies
when showing off your chops was in vogue. You should check into that.
Mike
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
about a 1000 rather.
>Here's a clue, oh clueless one,
> there were more than five rock bands around in the early seventies
> when showing off your chops was in vogue. You should check into that.- Hide quoted text -
List the ones which you think are in the same league as the ones I
mentioned. Don't mention KISS.
>
> - Show quoted text -
bubba
> I am excluding the Jazz Fusion bands who were highly technical but
> were mostly improvisation oriented flashy instrumental bands, that had
> less to do with rock than the ones mentioned here.
>
> Plant vs Osborne - Plant wins (This comparison is an insult to Plant)
> Page vs Iommi - tie (technically a tie, Iommi is underrated)
> Jones vs Butler - tie (technically a tie, Butler is underrated)
> Bonham vs Ward - Bruford wins (Ward is a poor man's Bonham)
>
> Yes vs The Who (4-0, Yes wins)
> -----------------------------------------
> Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> Howe vs Townshend - Howe wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> leads)
> Squire vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> controversial)
> Bruford vs Moon - Bruford wins (Bruford is far more versatile than
> Moon)
> Wakeman vs Townshend - Wakeman wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> clever synth, but not in the same league)
>
> Led Zeppelin vs The Who (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
> Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> Page vs Townshend - Page wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> leads)
> Jones vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> controversial)
> Bonham vs Moon - Bonham wins (Bonham is far more versatile than Moon)
> Jones vs Townshend - Jones wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> clever synth, but not in the same league)
Raja has never been laid, never seen a girl naked and has ZERO social
skills, thus he will forever live alone and have no friends forever.
jtees4
Ray
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
First off, KISS <> Musicians
Second off, comparing the abilities of instrumentalists who have well
developed technique is YOUR TRIP dude, do your own research.
Triumverat, Gentle Giant, Genesis, Oregon, Gong, Can, The Nice, PFM,
Van der Graaf Generator and King Crimson might be good place to
start.
Actually, getting laid might be a good place to start, it might help
you get over this ob/comp list thing.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Wow... you listed all the good prog bands possible. Triumverat, Gong,
Oregan, The Nice, PFM don't matter much. I had mentioned that I am
choosing only the prominent ones. These bands are not known much
outside prog circle. You can say VDGG and Can as well. But VDGG and
Can have a good influence among punk/post punk bands. So the ones left
are...
Gentle Giant
Genesis
King Crimson
Can
VDGG
Gentle Giant had many multi-instrumentalists but none of them are
considered virtuoso. Genesis probably had the same technical ability
of say Pink Floyd. Not in the league of Yes, Rush, Led Zeppelin, ELP,
Deep Purple etc. King Crimson never had a stable line-up. Their
strongest technical lineup is probably the Discipline lineup, but that
one hardly made that great music. Their best bet is the Red lineup
which is highly regarded. I think they just fall short as they lacked
in the keyboard and singer department. Can is a great bet. They were
technically very good. But commercially they were a flop. VDGG is not
as technically good, but not as good as Can and not even as popular as
Can were. Both bands were not really prominent bands. So thats why I
left them out.
List me some really highly rated popular rock bands (among rock crtics/
fans not prog critics/fans) that you think were worthy for
consideration.
> ...
>
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Me
allows this curry-stinkin', unwashed, moronic untouchable in?
What's wrong with this picture?
Jeff
> I am excluding the Jazz Fusion bands who were highly technical but
> were mostly improvisation oriented flashy instrumental bands, that had
> less to do with rock than the ones mentioned here.
>
You ask the same questions about the same bands,
over and over and over and over and over again.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> > Plant vs Osborne - Plant wins (This comparison is an insult to Plant)
> > Page vs Iommi - tie (technically a tie, Iommi is underrated)
> > Jones vs Butler - tie (technically a tie, Butler is underrated)
> > Bonham vs Ward - Bruford wins (Ward is a poor man's Bonham)
>
> > Yes vs The Who (4-0, Yes wins)
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> > Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> > Howe vs Townshend - Howe wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> > leads)
> > Squire vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> > controversial)
> > Bruford vs Moon - Bruford wins (Bruford is far more versatile than
> > Moon)
> > Wakeman vs Townshend - Wakeman wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> > clever synth, but not in the same league)
>
> > Led Zeppelin vs The Who (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
> > Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> > Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> > Page vs Townshend - Page wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> > leads)
> > Jones vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> > controversial)
> > Bonham vs Moon - Bonham wins (Bonham is far more versatile than Moon)
> > Jones vs Townshend - Jones wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> > clever synth, but not in the same league)
>
> You ask the same questions about the same bands,
> over and over and over and over and over again
Not the same question!
lgoler
Captain Beefheart's Magic Band - winner.
Ray
>
> - Show quoted text -
No whey man, Fairport Convention all day.
hoser1605
Yeah, great band but not rock. Think Stones, fuckin' Stones. End of
discussion,
The Nice Mean Man
> I am excluding the Jazz Fusion bands who were highly technical but
> were mostly improvisation oriented flashy instrumental bands, that had
> less to do with rock than the ones mentioned here.
>
> Plant vs Osborne - Plant wins (This comparison is an insult to Plant)
> Page vs Iommi - tie (technically a tie, Iommi is underrated)
> Jones vs Butler - tie (technically a tie, Butler is underrated)
> Bonham vs Ward - Bruford wins (Ward is a poor man's Bonham)
>
> Yes vs The Who (4-0, Yes wins)
> -----------------------------------------
> Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> Howe vs Townshend - Howe wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> leads)
> Squire vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> controversial)
> Bruford vs Moon - Bruford wins (Bruford is far more versatile than
> Moon)
> Wakeman vs Townshend - Wakeman wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> clever synth, but not in the same league)
>
> Led Zeppelin vs The Who (4-0, Led Zeppelin wins)
> Anderson vs Daltrey - Anderson wins (sorry but I don't consider
> Daltrey that great a singer. I know I am in minority)
> Page vs Townshend - Page wins (get back to me when Pete can play
> leads)
> Jones vs Entwistle - tie (technically a tie, I know this is
> controversial)
> Bonham vs Moon - Bonham wins (Bonham is far more versatile than Moon)
> Jones vs Townshend - Jones wins (sorry Townshend could play some
> clever synth, but not in the same league)
Yeah, they were one of the greatest bands live for sure. Just as long
as you were able to sit through 25 minutes-worth of Jimmy Page's
abstract, drawn-out bow solos.....
Dale Houstman
>
> Yeah, great band but not rock. Think Stones, fuckin' Stones. End of
> discussion,
It is one of those grand ironies of language that whenever someone uses
the phrase "end of discussion" it invariably means that that someone has
scarcely engaged in a discussion at all, and that the "end of the
discussion" is not within sight, if - indeed - an "end" exists at all,
which it rarely does.
The Stones are NOT the end-all and be-all of rock, and the very word
"rock" is not a matter of precise nomenclature.
End of discussion...
dmh
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
The Stones are the least likely to come up in a virtuoso ensemble
debate. Even The Beatles were more technically gifted than The Stones.
DGDevin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF8bPRWkemQ
RichL
> Yeah, great band but not rock. Think Stones, fuckin' Stones. End of
> discussion,
"From a purely technical standpoint"? You must be kidding.
The Stones were (and still are) a great band. Real rockers, yup. But
technically proficient in comparison with some of the other groups that
have been mentioned? Nope.
RichL
It_is_not_a_contest. Nobody *wins*.
DGDevin
"RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:XpCdnTpQMf_kUtrW...@supernews.com...
True, but there is a lot more to good music than technical proficiency.
There are millions of guitarists out there who could play circles around
Keith Richards (or Pete Townshend) but we'll never hear of them because they
didn't create songs which many millions of people can sing along to. Of
course you already knew that. ;~)
RichL
> ...who already know far, far more about music than "Raja" ever will.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF8bPRWkemQ
I saw a different clip by this pair on another newsgroup. The guitar
player's got good stuff, the other one has an OK voice but doesn't seem
too into it. It's as if Daddy (who I presume is recording the vid) is
saying "You WILL sing with your sister!"
But maybe not. Maybe projection of enthusiasm will come with time.
progea
World Cup already begin?
Ray
You don't actually have a soul, do you?
Ray
Or watching him hit more clams than a front end loader on Rehoboth
Beach.
Gracchus
> No whey man, Fairport Convention all day.
For Richard Thompson alone.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Richard Thompson alone don't make a fucking ensemble unless he clones
himself.
DGDevin
There are quite a few songs by them on YouTube, it would be cool to see the
guitar player in particular stick with it. Imagine, third grade and already
able to rock harder than "Raja" can even imagine. ;~)
bubba
Uh does the name Swarbrick mean anything to you?
Ray
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:XpCdnTpQMf_kUtrW...@supernews.com...
>
> > hoser1605 <harry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yeah, great band but not rock. Think Stones, fuckin' Stones. End of
> >> discussion,
>
> > "From a purely technical standpoint"? You must be kidding.
>
> > The Stones were (and still are) a great band. Real rockers, yup. But
> > technically proficient in comparison with some of the other groups that
> > have been mentioned? Nope.
>
> True, but there is a lot more to good music than technical proficiency.
> There are millions of guitarists out there who could play circles around
> Keith Richards (or Pete Townshend) but we'll never hear of them because they
> didn't create songs which many millions of people can sing along to. Of
> course you already knew that. ;~)
Thats not the point of discussion, dummy.
DGDevin
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:faedf2a4-e498-4e23...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> Thats not the point of discussion, dummy.
**********
"Raja's" dream discussion is whether the members of Led Zep are just
supermen or actual gods--in either case they're who he thinks of when he's
spanking his monkey. Sorry sonny, when it comes to talking music you are
simply not unequipped to participate, as your laughably clumsy displays of
ignorance have demonstrated so many times. Go make another pointless list,
at least that keeps you off the streets.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:faedf2a4-e498-4e23...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Thats not the point of discussion, dummy.
>
> **********
>
> "Raja's" dream discussion is whether the members of Led Zep are just
> supermen or actual gods
They are actual GODs.
>--in either case they're who he thinks of when he's
> spanking his monkey.
I wouldnt disrespect GODs like that. However I do have a poster of all
the 4 of them and I thank them for all the music whenever I look at
them.
> Sorry sonny, when it comes to talking music you are
> simply not unequipped to participate, as your laughably clumsy displays of
> ignorance have demonstrated so many times. Go make another pointless list,
> at least that keeps you off the streets.
Your hostility has no bounds. Thats why you are such a funny guy.
Toying with you, gives me such sadistic pleasure.
DGDevin
>>--in either case they're who he thinks of when he's
>> spanking his monkey.
> I wouldnt disrespect GODs like that. However I do have a poster of all
> the 4 of them and I thank them for all the music whenever I look at
> them.
It's well-known that your Zeppelin poster is taped to the wall beside your
bed, and is laminated to make it easy to clean. As the most notorious
monkey-spanker ever to make a fool of himself in Usenet's music groups, you
should not be surprised that your masturbatory obsession with Led Zep is not
a secret.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:da041311-f6ea-492d...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
I do have a poster but it is in living room. And I would not do the
nasty in front of them. Too disrespectful to the GODs! I have a poster
of Yes and Pink Floyd as well.
Me
wrote:
Doesn't your mommy get upset when you splash your slooge all over the
furniture and walls? Or maybe she's doesn't care. She just smiles and
thnks to herself, "My son the monkey-spanker-list-maker, He's a good
boy."
DGDevin
> I do have a poster but it is in living room. And I would not do the
> nasty in front of them. Too disrespectful to the GODs! I have a poster
> of Yes and Pink Floyd as well.
Don't forget that the landlord will deduct money from your damage deposit if
the tape holding up your posters in the "living room" peels paint off the
cinder-block walls. BTW, "Raja," do you plan to ever get around to doing
"the nasty" with a woman rather than your own tiny fist? It's bad enough
you're a rock-concert virgin....
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:5b17fb58-f664-471a...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
what makes you think I haven't done the nasty with women yet? and what
makes you think I haven't been to a concert. Have you seen John
Fogerty play all the CCR classics, recently? He is still kicking ass.
DGDevin
> what makes you think I haven't done the nasty with women yet?
Because everything about you says, "Terrified of women." A non-teenager who
tapes rock music posters to his living room wall and spends all his spare
time cooking up pointless lists intended to self-justify his juvenile tastes
in music is unlikely to be getting laid other than by contracting out the
task to a professional--a hand-job from a hooker really doesn't count,
"Raja."
> and what
> makes you think I haven't been to a concert. Have you seen John
> Fogerty play all the CCR classics, recently? He is still kicking ass.
You've repeatedly claimed you were about to (finally) attend one concert or
another and then back-peddled later, so we have no reason to think this
isn't another such example. In any event going to see an aging retread like
Fogerty who today plays the casino circuit isn't going to give you insight
into what a real rock concert is like. If you'd seen CCR back when they had
three records in the top ten in one year that would be different. But
seeing Fogerty wheeze out the old hits in the company of a bunch of
middle-aged folks in search of nostalgia hardly qualifies as a rock
concert--although it's quite revealing that you would pick something that
safe (assuming you actually went). Stick to your mp3s and fantasy-lists
"Raja"--that's more your speed.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > and what
> > makes you think I haven't been to a concert. Have you seen John
> > Fogerty play all the CCR classics, recently? He is still kicking ass.
>
> other concert.
>
> Crafty.
2 years ago. He was in Houston's Rodeo. I have seen Roger Waters,
Doobie Brothers, Psychedelic Furs, Happy Mondays etc... don't get much
time for concerts... but always look out for good ones.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
>
> You've kinda trashed your credibility on this subject. You've cried wolf
> too many times.
you are just too lame with this. I have a better music ear than you.
You might have been to more concerts, but that doesn't seem to have
helped. I have a capability to pick the diamonds from the stones, you
think everything that shines is a diamond. The best will always be the
best, just because they are the best. You dont have to pretend the
others are equally as good, just to appear broad minded. You are in
short a musical Quixote.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> knowledge or insights. Your silly talk of "diamonds and stones" is just
> a feeble way of trying to rationalize what a tiny range of music
> interests you.
>
> I can't even imagine what it would be like to have your crippled
> perspective on music. I can't imagine what it would be like to hear a
> neat piece of music and instinctively react not with "Hey, I like this!"
> but "Well, this is good, but it's not good as Led Zeppelin and Yes."
> God, what an incredible drag it would be to funnel everything through
> the same compulsive "ranking" filter.
>
> Oh, and I checked the Web to confirm my suspicion and, sure enough, the
> Psych Furs and Happy Mondays toured *together*. So you were trying to
> pass off one concert as two. How embarrassing. Did the Doobies open for
> Roger Waters too?
What is the link betweeen Doobie Brothers and Roger Waters? What makes
you think they will tour together, dumbass!
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> knowledge or insights. Your silly talk of "diamonds and stones" is just
> a feeble way of trying to rationalize what a tiny range of music
> interests you.
>
> I can't even imagine what it would be like to have your crippled
> perspective on music. I can't imagine what it would be like to hear a
> neat piece of music and instinctively react not with "Hey, I like this!"
> but "Well, this is good, but it's not good as Led Zeppelin and Yes."
> God, what an incredible drag it would be to funnel everything through
> the same compulsive "ranking" filter.
I don't compare The Verve to Led Zeppelin, both were amazing at what
they did. Led Zeppelin were simply a far more important band. Don't
expect me to compare Yes and Slayer either. Slayer were great for one
album at least , but again Yes were simply more much important.
Ray
>
> - Show quoted text
I don't care who you are, that's funny.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > perspective on music. I can't imagine what it would be like to hear a
> > > neat piece of music and instinctively react not with "Hey, I like this!"
> > > but "Well, this is good, but it's not good as Led Zeppelin and Yes."
> > > God, what an incredible drag it would be to funnel everything through
> > > the same compulsive "ranking" filter.
>
> > I don't compare The Verve to Led Zeppelin, both were amazing at what
> > they did. Led Zeppelin were simply a far more important band. Don't
> > expect me to compare Yes and Slayer either. Slayer were great for one
> > album at least , but again Yes were simply more much important.
>
> can you NOT see it?
>
> > > Oh, and I checked the Web to confirm my suspicion and, sure enough, the
> > > Psych Furs and Happy Mondays toured *together*. So you were trying to
> > > pass off one concert as two. How embarrassing. Did the Doobies open for
> > > Roger Waters too?
>
> > you think they will tour together, dumbass!
>
> in their fanbases.
You retardation level has reached new heights! Congrats!
>
> Was this your way of avoiding acknowledging your Psych Furs/Happy
> Mondays subterfuge?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
;-) My humor level goes up when I deal with the snobby village idiot -
poisoned rose.
Jeff
It's not just about opinions. PR knows so much more about
music than you do...as well as Blackmonk, and RichL,
and your attempts look so silly in comparison...that
you should feel humiliated.
Jeff
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
change that to "is a lot more snobby" and I agree
> music than you do...as well as Blackmonk, and RichL,
> and your attempts look so silly in comparison...that
> you should feel humiliated.
>
> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
DGDevin
"Jeff" <yourimag...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's not just about opinions. PR knows so much more about
music than you do...as well as Blackmonk, and RichL,
and your attempts look so silly in comparison...that
you should feel humiliated.
Jeff
********
Let's check the scoreboard:
**Usenet music groups posters who think "Raja" is an ignorant musical
tourist--74,975
**Usenet music groups posters who think "Raja" has interesting insights into
music--0
**Usenet music groups posters who think "Raja" is an awesome rawkin' dude--1
(and he calls himself "Raja")
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Jeff" <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
you suck at math!
DGDevin
> you suck at math!
And you suck at music so I got the better end of the deal, beancounter.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:21663e6a-acd9-4f31...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > you suck at math!
>
> And you suck at music so I got the better end of the deal, beancounter.
you suck at music and math, The Who suck as well.
DGDevin
> >> you suck at math!
>
>> And you suck at music so I got the better end of the deal, beancounter.
>you suck at music and math, The Who suck as well.
What are you, nine years old? Well, of course emotionally you are, and
always will be.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:65b80fac-d255-4471...@19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> you suck at math!
>
> >> And you suck at music so I got the better end of the deal, beancounter.
> >you suck at music and math, The Who suck as well.
>
> What are you, nine years old? Well, of course emotionally you are, and
> always will be.
how did you arrive at the number 9? Some bad memories? Was your uncle
involved? ;-)
DGDevin
> how did you arrive at the number 9? Some bad memories? Was your uncle
> involved? ;-)
Guessing your emotional age is based on your childish view of bands as if
they were sports teams and your need to root for your favorite team while
booing all the rest--that's the attitude of a child. Taping up posters of
your fave bands in the living room is kind of a giveaway too, that's
something only someone who didn't successfully transition puberty would do.
Seriously, "Raja," do you plan to ever grow up? Can't you get hormone
treatments or something? Or do you want to remain a psychological child
your whole life?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:d5fd50a3-812f-4ca5...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Get back to me when you hear some more classic rock bands apart from
The Who and Led Zeppelin.
DGDevin
> Get back to me when you hear some more classic rock bands apart from
> The Who and Led Zeppelin.
What? Has being reminded you're merely an oversized child caused what few
wits you have to desert you?
BTW, "Raja," I don't need posters on my living room wall, I saw the greats
of "classic rock" in the flesh before you were born. So stick with your
mp3s and fanboi websites, you only embarrass yourself when you try to
converse with people who lived what you can only fantasize about.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:02d8acd6-8fb3-4af7...@f5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Get back to me when you hear some more classic rock bands apart from
> > The Who and Led Zeppelin.
>
> What? Has being reminded you're merely an oversized child caused what few
> wits you have to desert you?
>
> BTW, "Raja," I don't need posters on my living room wall, I saw the greats
> of "classic rock" in the flesh before you were born.
saw them but learned nothing. its like a monkey with a bible... lol
Ray
wrote:
Someday (after the pubes come in most likely) you might actually learn
enough about music to understand why you look like such a hopeless ass
in these "conversations". Here's a hint: do you think for a split
second that either Jimmy Page or Steve Howe would claim for a split
second to be a more accomplished instrumentalist than Robert Johnson?
Do you think either of them is better and if so, why?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
I prefer Page and Howe over any other rock guitarist out there. Robert
Johnson was a great guitarist but his music is not my cup of tea.
do...@webtv.net
About concerts...p.rose said to raja:
"You've kinda trashed your credibility on this subject. You've cried
wolf too many times."
Shhhh...ixnay on the wolf...now he'll say that he saw J. Geils.
Ray
>
> - Show quoted text -
Once again we're talking about what you like vs. what actually amounts
to 'technically accomplished', you should stick to that, you'll look
like less of a hopeless wanker that way. (just a little but it's a
start)
DGDevin
"Ray" <6sicks...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6726dbcf-e534-49d4...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> I prefer Page and Howe over any other rock guitarist out there. Robert
> Johnson was a great guitarist but his music is not my cup of tea.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Once again we're talking about what you like vs. what actually amounts
to 'technically accomplished', you should stick to that, you'll look
like less of a hopeless wanker that way. (just a little but it's a
start)
**********
Once again, "Raja" likes cake, cookies and pie, he doesn't *like* vegetables
and he *isn't* going to eat any and you can't make him!
JohnB
It's actually a step forward to see a Raja post using phrases like "I
prefer" and "not my cup of tea" rather than saying things like "anyone
who doesn't think CTTE is the best music ever is an idiot".
Mike Smith
And, ergo, if you ask him what kind of food has the most vitamin C in
it, he's going to give you an answer from the set {cookies, cake, pie}.
--
Mike Smith
DGDevin
"JohnB" <john...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:efd838dc-4f7a-4db6...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> It's actually a step forward to see a Raja post using phrases like "I
> prefer" and "not my cup of tea" rather than saying things like "anyone
> who doesn't think CTTE is the best music ever is an idiot".
After being beaten over the skull for several years with the reality that
his immature tastes are meaningless to the greater world, "Raja" has finally
grudgingly got the point, or part of it. But note that at the drop of a hat
he still insists (in a shrill voice) that the members of Led Zeppelin are
"gods" who created the greatest rock music ever, blah blah, and anybody who
disagrees sucks, blah blah. At heart "Raja" is still a child and will
always remain one.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "JohnB" <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
Led Zeppelin are the GODs and should be on your list of favorite rock
bands ever (even if they are not #1). If you are denying it, you don't
know anything about rock music, or simply put, don't like it.
JohnB
Whoops! Step backwards again ...
DGDevin
> Led Zeppelin are the GODs and should be on your list of favorite rock
> bands ever (even if they are not #1). If you are denying it, you don't
> know anything about rock music, or simply put, don't like it.
I was listening to LZ (and the other greats of classic rock) long before you
emerged into the world squalling in helpless rage (a practice you have never
ceased). I still have all of LZ's LPs from when they were first
issued--ever stand in line outside a record shop that was about to open to
buy a new Zep album the morning it was released, "Raja"? I used to have
some 45rpm singles as well, but those are long gone--still got some concert
posters and ticket stubs from the late 60s and early 70s too. This is the
same old story, you're an ignorant puppy who discovered rock music the day
before yesterday and yet you think you're in a position to deliver lectures
on the subject to people who have forgotten more about rock than you will
ever know. You've indicated that your keyboard and singing abilities will
probably get you into a good rock band pretty soon--so how about it, "Raja,"
when do we get to hear your version of "Whole Lotta Love" (another subject
on which you are entirely ignorant)? A virgin-for-life singing about wild
sex--that should be worth a laugh or two.
RichL
Into the manure pile.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:69a4762b-6c54-43f6...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Led Zeppelin are the GODs and should be on your list of favorite rock
> > bands ever (even if they are not #1). If you are denying it, you don't
> > know anything about rock music, or simply put, don't like it.
>
> I was listening to LZ (and the other greats of classic rock) long before you
> emerged into the world squalling in helpless rage (a practice you have never
> ceased). I still have all of LZ's LPs from when they were first
> issued--ever stand in line outside a record shop that was about to open to
> buy a new Zep album the morning it was released, "Raja"?
So you like Zeppelin too. Thanks for proving my point!
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> always remain one.
Yes I will. Never lose the innocence!
DGDevin
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2eeb9a73-1e6c-4aab...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> At heart "Raja" is still a child and will
>> always remain one.
> Yes I will. Never lose the innocence!
The word you're looking for is stupidity, you're stuck with that for life,
"Raja."