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fil

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Sep 28, 2003, 4:15:30 PM9/28/03
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Take Me Away
Don't Get 2 Close (2 my fantasy)
Mr. Richard Smoker
Wavin' my dick in the wind (Jimmy! Jimmy is looking so good and
completely tearing shit up. Brought a tear to my eye.)
Voodoo Lady (very nice and to the point)
Bananas & Blow
Happy Colored Marbles
Piss Up A Rope
Dr. Rock
Puerto Rican Power
Stroker Ace
Roses are Free -a jerkwad hippie jumps onto the stage and spills a
beer on top of Aaron's amp and blows it up. While the amp head is
replaced, Aaron suggest Mick sing the crowd a song. He pulls up a
stool as Glen starts noodling on the piano and we end up with a very
nice, complete, cool and loungy
The Summer Wind - As sung by Dean Ween - holy shit. It takes a while to
recover from that. But Aaron now sits on the stool and
The Argus - blows everyone away. By now we've pretty much seen it all.
But suddenly a sheet of paper materializes in Aaron's hand. What needs
to be written down? Maybe the lyrics to:
All Of My Love - As sung by Gene Ween. Amazing. I guess I could go
home right now and be happy. But instead, I stay in the sweltering
redolence of the horrific vomitous Catalyst and witness yet more rock.
Fat Lenny
Pandy Fackler
Buckingham Green
AIDS/HIV
Spinal Meningitis
Reggaejunkiejew
Enabler (Rock Dave!)
Big Jilm
Poopship

encore:
Ohio
Tender Sitiuation - very nice long Papa Gener solo
The Mollusk

there, I think that's right. I was pretty hurting and the stupid venue
made it impossible to get a beer to calm myself down, so my brain was
skipping tracks at some points, but I've checked this against
polkadottale from the forum's list, and it looks like it jives.

Keep your eye out for this recording if it surfaces, it was really a
special show, despite the horrific venue - but audio recordings don't
include smells, fortunately for you. If anyone gets it and wants to
trade please let me know.

Magpie13

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Sep 28, 2003, 7:22:28 PM9/28/03
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Hey Fil!

Where were you?

I was the goober at the front of the stage in the grey shirt with his arms
crossed pretending to be a security guard.

I was hoping that would keep folks away from me, but was knocked to the
ground during the moshing of Voodoo Lady and retreated, tail firmly between
my legs to the back of the venue.

I'd love a copy of this show too. To me it was light years better than the
previous night's Greek performance.

That Summer Wind/Argus/All of My Love progresion was the stuff of legend!

Marq

fil

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Sep 29, 2003, 11:05:21 AM9/29/03
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Marq,

I was about six folks deep on deaner's side of the stage for most of
the show. As I hadn't slept much and was dehydrated and inconveniently
mostly sober at the time, when the temperature reached 140 - probably
about when they played Jew - I had to back out to get some water - as
the stupid fuck bar was not selling anything with alcohol in it.

Hey, I should say that the idiot who spilled the beer on the amp did us
all a huge favor. If it weren't for that, there would have been no
Summer Wind.

And yeah, you're right. That 3 song progression will have to be on the
next chocodog release. We witnessed history there.


In article <U2Kdb.110$__6.144...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,

Chango13

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Sep 29, 2003, 9:57:43 PM9/29/03
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that show sounds sick... i shoulda
driven up there for that shit cause
my l.a. vacation kinda sucked.

Televezquez

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Sep 29, 2003, 10:54:55 PM9/29/03
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What's the story with this venue being so gross? It sounds funny.

Al

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Sep 30, 2003, 12:25:41 AM9/30/03
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Televezquez wrote:

> What's the story with this venue being so gross? It sounds funny.
>


Well, I was there for one thing.
Had a couple of onion rings from the Catalyst kitchen while waiting for
the gate to the show to open. I was first into the venue when they let
us in and while I was waiting for the band to come on something awful
grew inside me. Hours after the show it was gone but during the show, yikes.

But what the hell kinda show was dat anyway? Saw the Greek show the
night before and it was like night and day different.

Big Jilm and Poopship were so over the top I can't think straight.
And Led Zep and Ohio AND Summer Wind. Oh my God.

I thought the Greek show was a Gener show, and the Cat show was a Deaner
show and Deaner was in a wicked ass mood. I've never seen them kick it
so hard for so long. It was so very.

But the venue did suck. I love Santa Cruz more than most things, but
that room was blah. Worth the trip from Minneapolis though.

Rob Banks

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Sep 30, 2003, 3:29:40 PM9/30/03
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Al <a...@weirdenergy.com> wrote in message news:<3f7905c1$0$178$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>...

> Televezquez wrote:
>
> > What's the story with this venue being so gross? It sounds funny.
> >
>
>
> Well, I was there for one thing.
> Had a couple of onion rings from the Catalyst kitchen while waiting for
> the gate to the show to open. I was first into the venue when they let
> us in and while I was waiting for the band to come on something awful
> grew inside me. Hours after the show it was gone but during the show, yikes.
>
> But what the hell kinda show was dat anyway? Saw the Greek show the
> night before and it was like night and day different.

On this, we agree. The shows were light years apart.

> Big Jilm and Poopship were so over the top I can't think straight.
> And Led Zep and Ohio AND Summer Wind. Oh my God.

Gener read the lyrics from a piece of paper...how exciting!

> I thought the Greek show was a Gener show, and the Cat show was a Deaner
> show and Deaner was in a wicked ass mood. I've never seen them kick it
> so hard for so long. It was so very.

Check your watch next time: The Greek show was almost an hour longer,
and it, contrary to your opinion, rocked much harder than the
Catalyst. The "Gener's header incident" completely deflated what was
an otherwise average show.

> But the venue did suck. I love Santa Cruz more than most things, but
> that room was blah. Worth the trip from Minneapolis though.

I scarcely felt it was worth the trip over the hill from San Jose, but
that's just an opinion.

Al

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Sep 30, 2003, 7:40:18 PM9/30/03
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Rob Banks wrote:

> Al <a...@weirdenergy.com> wrote in message news:<3f7905c1$0$178$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>...
>
>>Televezquez wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What's the story with this venue being so gross? It sounds funny.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Well, I was there for one thing.
>>Had a couple of onion rings from the Catalyst kitchen while waiting for
>>the gate to the show to open. I was first into the venue when they let
>>us in and while I was waiting for the band to come on something awful
>>grew inside me. Hours after the show it was gone but during the show, yikes.
>>
>>But what the hell kinda show was dat anyway? Saw the Greek show the
>>night before and it was like night and day different.
>
>
> On this, we agree. The shows were light years apart.

Well sure Rob, but to be totally correct the distance between Berkeley
and Santa Cruz is less than 200 miles.

>
>>Big Jilm and Poopship were so over the top I can't think straight.
>>And Led Zep and Ohio AND Summer Wind. Oh my God.
>
>
> Gener read the lyrics from a piece of paper...how exciting!

Actually, they did Zep during the sound check at the Greek, so it was
kinda kewl to see they did play it live. I can see how it must have
ruined it for you, what with Gene not knowing the words by heart.


>
>
>>I thought the Greek show was a Gener show, and the Cat show was a Deaner
>>show and Deaner was in a wicked ass mood. I've never seen them kick it
>>so hard for so long. It was so very.
>
>
> Check your watch next time: The Greek show was almost an hour longer,
> and it, contrary to your opinion, rocked much harder than the
> Catalyst. The "Gener's header incident" completely deflated what was
> an otherwise average show.

My watch (and the stage clock at the Cat) were both working. You bring
up the "Gener head incident" and how it deflated the Cat show. But you
seem to be fine with the "half the band piss break" at the Greek. I'm
not too hard on a band that hits it hard for over an hour and then takes
a short pause. Especially a band that works as hard as Ween did both nights.


>
>>But the venue did suck. I love Santa Cruz more than most things, but
>>that room was blah. Worth the trip from Minneapolis though.
>
>
> I scarcely felt it was worth the trip over the hill from San Jose, but
> that's just an opinion.

Thats too bad for you. Seems like you must have wrote this message from
work or some other place that makes you grumpy. For what it's worth,
the Greek show was more magical for me and I enjoyed it more. The Cat
show was nasty as hell and I enjoyed it a lot for different reasons.
Ween is one of two bands I'll go see two nights in a row and the way
they mix things up is one reason why.

Have a better day tomorrow Rob. I'm off to see Mogwai at First Avenue.

fil

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Sep 30, 2003, 8:33:17 PM9/30/03
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D'oh!
Well, that sucks, dude. I don't know if you would have been into
adding an additional 12 hours to your driving load, though. HOWEVER,
you should have driven up here for Ween weekend. Friday AND Saturday.
I'm not sure that's happened out here ever. It was easily the best
weekend of the year.

I'm still doing some mental comparisons, and on my shelves of
personally witnessed rock history, and Ween shows in particular, I'm
not sure if this one goes next to 2 piece Ween at the Whiskey, or has
to get its very own shelf.

In article <20030929215743...@mb-m22.aol.com>, Chango13

fil

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Sep 30, 2003, 8:44:50 PM9/30/03
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I don't know the story of this place, but I'm not sure if there is any
management at all there. They didn't turn the vent system on and only
very occasionally opened the back door for about three minutes at a
time. There were some several hundred young UC Slugs tripping on what
have you, and several of them must have gotten sick. Someone puked in
the recycling bin by the bar that didn't serve any alcohol, for
example. But there were several areas where vomit smell wafted over to
greet you. Combine the normal smells people make with the fashionably
unshowered, plus a good-size cohort of die-hard drinkers and druggers,
and and you have yourself one rank odor.

Let's not discuss the bathroom.

To make matters worse, when I finally had to make a break for the bar
that was serving alcohol, over on the other side of the building, I
found there was a line some 30 people long and ONE bartender.


In article <v0shnvgcm3hhv1mca...@4ax.com>, Televezquez

Televezquez

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Sep 30, 2003, 10:07:07 PM9/30/03
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Sounds like The Vet.

Al

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Oct 1, 2003, 3:08:21 AM10/1/03
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fil wrote:


> To make matters worse, when I finally had to make a break for the bar
> that was serving alcohol, over on the other side of the building, I
> found there was a line some 30 people long and ONE bartender.


And he took a half hour at 5:30pm when no one but me was buying.
They are switching over management Friday. That was the lame duck club
Saturday night. It did the job up front.

Al

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Oct 1, 2003, 3:13:17 AM10/1/03
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Al wrote:

> Have a better day tomorrow Rob. I'm off to see Mogwai at First Avenue.
>


Mogwai was real good. After two nights of Ween it was interesting to see
a wall of guitars band. They played real loud and real quiet for like an
hour and a half. If you don't know these guys you should check them out
real soon. Try starting with "Young Team" or "Come On Die Young".
It's like Captain, sometimes firing off into Sonic Youth. But in a down
sorta way. I like it.

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