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The Glidge

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:02:40 PM9/5/00
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Yo dudes,
I was reading the newsgroup discussion of the WP outtakes and hopped on
Napster to see if any of this stuff was there. Well, it is!
I downloaded 'For So Long', 'Wife', 'Belvidine', 'Long Beach Island',
and 'Wash Me Down'. They sound wastee and sweet.

Where are these tunes from and why are they so forbidden? Xenafat?
Goat? Can anyone in "the know" help me out?

By the by, the guy who posted this stuff goes by the handle
"petrosgali".

Tha Glidge


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Sep 5, 2000, 4:34:31 PM9/5/00
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:02:40 -0700, The Glidge
<a_abulafia_...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>Where are these tunes from and why are they so forbidden? Xenafat?
>Goat? Can anyone in "the know" help me out?

Maybe the Bros. just don't want them in general circulation. They've
given us huge amounts of stuff, probably more than any other band has
ever just given away, and we should be happy for that. However these
snogs got out, they shouldn't be on Napster or in discussion here,
because that's how it was intended to be by Ween, and that should be
good enough for us.

Now would everyone please let this die, before we draw blood from the
hand that feeds us.

The Glidge

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:22:39 PM9/5/00
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Thanks for the reply Rev.
I'll drop the subject but the cats out of the bag and I hope tha boyz
in the band are cool with it. Fucking napster.

later.

Chango13

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:51:35 PM9/5/00
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You're told by the head dude of WeenRadio that these
things do not exist, yet you continue to post? Dude,
shut the fuck up...

ManDingO

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Sep 5, 2000, 10:43:25 PM9/5/00
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maybe it's cuz (as I 'may' of found out recently) ween chooses not to
releases it to the net hounds yet, and MAYBE they really don't need you
posting that you saw some on napster, but why would you care what they
thought.
Just a thought

xenafat

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Sep 6, 2000, 3:43:55 AM9/6/00
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dont be so hard on the kid. his heart's in the rite place.
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Filthy Ferris

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Sep 6, 2000, 2:02:27 AM9/6/00
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If they don't exist then how come I am listening to them right now? That's
weird. Not to be an asshole, but shit. It's not a big deal anyway... if
the guys didn't want this stuff out then they wouldn't be leaking it out (or
giving the tapes to people who would do that).

Shit.

-FF


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bastad

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Sep 6, 2000, 5:17:20 AM9/6/00
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I think it was probably a case of them not wanting it leaked to people like
you,who are completley ungrateful,assuming and undeserving.No offense dude,but
talk like that isn't going to make you any friends around here.

odu...@my-deja.com

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Sep 6, 2000, 7:38:47 AM9/6/00
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im surprised to see such snobbery on a ween page i truly am


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slave1

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Sep 6, 2000, 8:49:31 AM9/6/00
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In article <8p5ac6$68u$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, odu...@my-deja.com wrote:
>im surprised to see such snobbery on a ween page i truly am
>

it's been said...ya know...
so why can't you understand...?

is respecting the band's wishes snobbery?
i don't think so.
ween do lots of shit...they may not know what they're doing
but i take for granted they do...and therefor if they want something to be a
certain way...just accept that. fuck...it's their music. we're blessed as
fans. they share so much. ween are good.
don't anger boognish.
hopefully everything is alright. so now...

LET THIS THREAD FUCKING DIE

this shit doesn't exist. why?
because boognish said so. the end.

i saw a little man...with a big head,
slave1

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Filthy Ferris

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Sep 6, 2000, 10:23:09 AM9/6/00
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In response to Bastad:

I guess I just don't know the full story behind these files.... was there a
word from the band about this or something? Why the fuck am I ungrateful
anyway? I fucking loved listening to these songs? You don't even fucking
know me dude!

-FF

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Grey

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Sep 6, 2000, 11:09:41 AM9/6/00
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No matter who took the shit its still there sitting out on the lawn! Its been
stepped in. Let it die. Not that I didn't respect their wishes about LBI and
deny its existence to alot of people I trade with. But ya know what, If they
really didn't want it to get out there they wouldn't have given it out. Point
being... I never heard of WHO DAT? before the Stay Forever single. Did you?

\ /
-

Maybe if Pat or Mick would clarify the situation to us on said LBI then it
would be clear as glass to all you poeple who have respect for the bands
wishes.

Dr. Jimmy

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Sep 6, 2000, 12:48:19 PM9/6/00
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As far as LBI is concerned here is what Mickey said to me about that, "
the long beach island demos is a really sorry example of our
work tapes getting out there. i heard about it once before and felt really
betrayed, but i guess that's the price we pay for encouraging people to
circulate our music. it's hard to draw a line between when it's uncool or
not." .....

I have a few things that I would never trade or copy, out of respect for the
band......actually I have some stuff from a few bands.....but the only thing
that is really good about them is the nostalgic value......but moving
ahead.....it's no secret that LBI exists and has been traded around....so I
guess that what he said about that sort of stuff being the price that they
pay for their encouragment is very true.

My Name Is Dr. Jimmy...I work for Jesus....I can do NO wrong

bastad

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Sep 6, 2000, 12:44:19 PM9/6/00
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I'd say that the fact that eveyone has said just let it die,would make it pretty
obvious that the band has given instructions.So shut up about it.You are
ungrateful because you jumped head first into this thread,bragging about having
some songs without thought of the possible consequences.Clearly,you saw others
saying shut up about it before you spouted off.It wasn't without reason.This is
my last word on the subject.Let it die.

Slasher

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Sep 6, 2000, 12:51:21 PM9/6/00
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> im surprised to see such snobbery on a ween page i truly am

Yes the Orwellian tone of these messages is disturbing and contrary to the
reason some of us are even here; Because we enjoy Ween music. Authorized
release or not. Weither the band wants us to hear it or NOT. Most of us
don't even care how listenable some music is.

And I'll be damned if I'm gonna let any one tell me or anyone I know that
something I have on my very own hard drive doesn't exist.(I got mine from
napster user: deanween99)

Frankly I was going to remove copies of these songs from my napster music
folder to make them unavailable to the masses but since I have only seen
comments about what Ween supposedly thinks, or what direction has been given
to the ftp sys-ops and ludicrous comments to the effect that these files
don't exist I can't see any legitimate or substantial reason to keep others
from having these files.

I have heard that we should not post said files to the ftp's. Well
OK But that is a far cry from denying their existence.

I think the real challenge for us as a group will be to incorporate
these new songs into our collections in a way that makes it seem as though
we haven't, shouldn't be hard since they don't really exist after all

Slasher


Chango13

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Sep 6, 2000, 12:54:15 PM9/6/00
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It's not snobbery, it's an appreciation and respect of
the Bros wishes and wants for their own product, fer
Christ's sake...

biu...@my-deja.com

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Sep 6, 2000, 1:02:32 PM9/6/00
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MY GOT A GOOFREIND WHO NO AT TO GET GOOPEACH PYE ON LONEBEACH ISLAND

SUMMER OF LOVE FANS

Chango13

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Sep 6, 2000, 2:38:11 PM9/6/00
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it was just an expression, mang, you know, said with
a wink and a nudge...

>And I'll be damned if I'm gonna let any one tell me or anyone I know that
>something I have on my very own hard drive doesn't exist.

>But that is a far cry from denying their existence.


steve

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Sep 6, 2000, 4:26:00 PM9/6/00
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the long beach island tapes do not exist....
....long beach island does not exist....
...the is no such thing as a beach....
...or an island....
....ween are not real......


"don't forget to tip the boy in red"

steve

weenradio

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Sep 6, 2000, 6:09:18 PM9/6/00
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with no offense to you (i like you :), you are basically saying:

"i dont care what you (ween) feel is quality, i want the world to know
you (ween) as THIS" -

Its like diggin in Dali's garbage, and finding a doodle that he created
while talking to his mom on the phone. you maybe a huge Dali fan, and
think the doodle is neat to have, however, if you post the doodle on
your dali fan page, some individual who is not familar with Dali's
work, may stumble upon your page, and make a conclusion about Dali's
artistic abilities without seeing what Dali feels is his quality work.
That person should have never seen that doodle.

..

Painter

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Sep 6, 2000, 4:30:21 PM9/6/00
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I posted what I found in Jasper John's trash.

ps, I'm having a very shitty day today.

Puffy Clouds

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Sep 6, 2000, 4:45:18 PM9/6/00
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bad day try losing 8 g's in two days...

Super-Charger

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Sep 6, 2000, 4:49:23 PM9/6/00
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"Dr. Jimmy" wrote that Ween said:

> it's hard to draw a line between when it's uncool or
> not." .....
>

Totally...I mean someone reamed me out because I asked if I could get 'Ask the
Dragon' off them, but then its posted on the FTPs. I already have some of the
songs being discussed here because I didn't even know it was an issue. I'm
supposed to delete them now or something? Not going to happen. I was under the
impression that official releases were off limits to distribute but that
everything else was fair game. I haven't seen any posts from guys in the band
asking not to trade or aquire this stuff.

Slasher

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Sep 6, 2000, 5:30:41 PM9/6/00
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weenradio wrote


> with no offense to you (i like you :), you are basically saying:
>
> "i dont care what you (ween) feel is quality, i want the world to know
you (ween) as THIS" -

Uh no I didn't say anything of the sort.

If you had read my message you would have seen that my conclusion was this:

" I think the real challenge for us as a group will be to incorporate these
new songs into our collections in a way that makes it seem as though we
haven't, shouldn't be hard since they don't really exist after all "

I am respecting what has been reported to be the bands wishes and have not
transfered the songs to anyone.

I see no reason why we should penalize ourselves with grief over this issue
because this music escaped the bands private portfolio.

According to Dr Jimmy mig said that he felt "betrayed". I have to assume it
was the record company who betrayed them by exposing the music. Just like he
betrayed themwhen he posted Craters.

Better call the whaaambualnce

Clearly it is not us fans who have betrayed him. We didn't dig in anyones
garbage nor are we responsible for digging up these songs and making them
available to the 'masses'.

Mickey also made an excellent point when he reportedly told Dr jimmy "it's


hard to draw a line between when it's uncool or not."

And frankly the line has been drawn by us a long time ago. And that is this:
We do not and will not trade in official releases.The notion that there is
some kind of hierarchical mechanisim that will allow this, one of our
founding principals to be changed is simply wrong.

We will continue to lust after these rarities
Simply put it is our passion the reason for our very existence. To deny us
this is to deny us our humanity

The censoring of this material is contrary to the very nature of our
community and weither Deaner likes it or not these 'working tapes' as he
called them have become a part of the massive collection that is their
digital archive on the net. To suggest otherwise is just plain silly. It's
just too late for that.

Slasher


szonic

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Sep 6, 2000, 5:42:54 PM9/6/00
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Fuck...me too...I woke up with satanic cramps 25 minutes before I had to be to work...my iron decided
to break along with my a/c...the coffeemaker timer didn't go...I was late to work, I got 10% tips from
cheap ass bitches...this cunt I work with tried to blame me for stealing money from work...which is
something my karma would never ever let me do...I got flicked off by some teenage grils on the way
home...fuck I'd had enough...I followed those little shits to their parent's house and got out of the
car...Is there a problem? We yelled for awhile and then one of their mommies came out...With simple
reason...hehe...I won...Mom apologized and I let it go...For this...I do not own a gun...meh...beer
helps...work sucks
Szonic
waaaah

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Chad Scroble

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Sep 6, 2000, 4:56:02 PM9/6/00
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the tapes weren't 'leaked' out by the band, they were stolen from the boys
homes and cars. that sucks, but hey, it's the price of being a rock star.
next they are going to be taunted and harassed by crazy people just like
Madonna and Dave Letterman!

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ManDingO

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Sep 6, 2000, 6:32:26 PM9/6/00
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this is some what off subject here, but would you shut up please.

Super-Charger

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Sep 6, 2000, 6:53:34 PM9/6/00
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Well, since you said please...maybe...naw... I don't think so DinkO

Jan

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Sep 6, 2000, 8:10:24 PM9/6/00
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too late

Liam

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Sep 6, 2000, 10:06:04 PM9/6/00
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In article <20000906201024...@ng-cs1.aol.com>,

I dont know about you, but i'd be pretty weirded out if I was taunted
and harrassed by Madonna & Dave Letterman.

Liam

Super-Charger

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Sep 6, 2000, 8:18:41 PM9/6/00
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Liam wrote:

> In article <20000906201024...@ng-cs1.aol.com>,
> jan...@aol.com (Jan) wrote:
> > too late
> > chad wrote:
> > >next they are going to be taunted and harassed by crazy people
> > just like
> > >Madonna and Dave Letterman!
>
> I dont know about you, but i'd be pretty weirded out if I was taunted
> and harrassed by Madonna & Dave Letterman.
>
> Liam

Or People just like them.

Mel

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Sep 6, 2000, 10:39:22 PM9/6/00
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the long beach island tapes do not exist....
....long beach island does not exist....
...the is no such thing as a beach....
...or an island....
....ween are not real......


That's the only logical thing I've read in weeks....

Nonexistant,
Mel


ANDY

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Sep 6, 2000, 11:43:46 PM9/6/00
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just adding my post to this thread wich has some how become so long.
there, i'm done.

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paul kotheimer

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Sep 7, 2000, 3:51:20 PM9/7/00
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What about this comparison...it's like phish tapes themselves
having sex with corn, then it gets on the internet... and someone
who's never heard phish thinks that all phish music must
be for corn-fuckers? Is that kinda the same thing?


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Clean Ween

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Sep 7, 2000, 6:39:50 PM9/7/00
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phish music is for corn-fuckers. everybody knows that.

Chango13

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Sep 7, 2000, 8:53:57 PM9/7/00
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Just as Korn music is for fish-fuckers.
So it is written, so shall it be done...

Scott

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Sep 7, 2000, 8:57:25 PM9/7/00
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To kill the first born pharoah's son?

>>>>Just as Korn music is for fish-fuckers.
So it is written, so shall it be done...


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